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[QUOTE=SharingHer;6537003]I heard from my Korean friend at my place of work yesterday that for the girls in Korea, COF is an option you can add for $10-$20, and maybe about 25% have this option advertised. You could COF on a new girl's face every day of the week. Unfortunately, the kgirls we have, we are paying them insane amounts of money compared to what they make back home, so an extra $10 is nothing to them.
For girls in their 20's there, in the nicest parts in Seoul, you can have bb, as many shots as you want cip or cof for 2 straight hours for about $250 - $350.1 hr 70 minutes 2 shots bb cof could be as cheap as about $150 for a girl in her 20's. Here we pay them $460 for that, have half the time, and she is likely to be at least 30, if not older.
He said, if we paid $460 a session there, it would straight 21 year old 9's all day long.
Is it any wonder, they don't care to do extras?
Examples:
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1687258854-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%EC%98%A4%ED%94%BC-%EC%84%A0%EB%A6%89%EC%97%AD-%ED%94%84%EB%A1%A0%ED%8A%B8[/URL]
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1679318607-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%ED%9C%B4%EA%B2%8C%ED%85%94-%EC%97%AD%EC%82%BC%EC%97%AD-%EA%BC%AC%EB%B6%80%EA%B8%B0[/URL][/QUOTE]This sounds like a fantastic deal. Though I am wondering what's the barrier of entry into these type of places.
1. On average how good is the quality on these places compared to whatever leftovers we get here?
2. What happens if you're not Korean and don't speak Korean? Are you screwed and have to go with the "foreigner friendly places (read: probably lower quality?
3. Where does one able to browse and know where the websites to go to?
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[QUOTE=TheAbc;6537497]This sounds like a fantastic deal. Though I am wondering what's the barrier of entry into these type of places.
1. On average how good is the quality on these places compared to whatever leftovers we get here?
2. What happens if you're not Korean and don't speak Korean? Are you screwed and have to go with the "foreigner friendly places (read: probably lower quality?
3. Where does one able to browse and know where the websites to go to?[/QUOTE]He said the girls here are basically Korea's leftovers, but they make more money here more easily than most girls in their early twenties there. He did say the very best there can make a lot of money, like $500 an hour or more, but that's very few girls, and those girls are obviously not coming here to make less.
I was not suggesting you go to Korea. Just saying, the girls here are making more than they could dream of there. We are getting ripped off basically, since Seoul and LA have similar standards of living and wealth. So they're not interested in giving you COF for an extra $10.
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[QUOTE=TheAbc;6537497]This sounds like a fantastic deal. Though I am wondering what's the barrier of entry into these type of places.
1. On average how good is the quality on these places compared to whatever leftovers we get here?
2. What happens if you're not Korean and don't speak Korean? Are you screwed and have to go with the "foreigner friendly places (read: probably lower quality?
3. Where does one able to browse and know where the websites to go to?[/QUOTE]If you are not Korean you are mostly out of luck with the room salons and other Korean adult establishments. Speaking / reading Korean can certainly help, but not always. Going with a Korean can help. Honestly, I think it's easier to find hot Asians stateside for a better price, as a white dude.
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Korea
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6537497]This sounds like a fantastic deal. Though I am wondering what's the barrier of entry into these type of places.
1. On average how good is the quality on these places compared to whatever leftovers we get here?
2. What happens if you're not Korean and don't speak Korean? Are you screwed and have to go with the "foreigner friendly places (read: probably lower quality?
3. Where does one able to browse and know where the websites to go to?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zipp0;6537610]If you are not Korean you are mostly out of luck with the room salons and other Korean adult establishments. Speaking / reading Korean can certainly help, but not always. Going with a Korean can help. Honestly, I think it's easier to find hot Asians stateside for a better price, as a white dude.[/QUOTE]Korea has the same problems as we do here. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Lots of fake pics and lies about age. Girls are mostly in their 30's and 40's. Now there are places that are full of early and mid 20's 8+'s and 9's but you will pay over 1 k USD when all is said and done. Anmas usually have decent talent and are a good value if you can get in. Some of the mid tier ones may let foreigners in if you speak enough Korean. These girls are usually in their 30's and on average are at least as good looking if not better than the talent here. The girls that work at the OP and give extras a la carte are a mixed bunch. Prob some hot ones, but probably a lot of busted girls too. A lot of girls will come to the US when they age out of the elite establishments. Hot GFE girls that rim are probably former anma girls.
As a white dude, you are probably better off going to Thailand or the Philippines rather than Korea or Japan. In Thailand and the Philippines, whites are only second to wealthy Northeast Asians when it comes to desirability as a customer.
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[QUOTE=UnassumingGuy;6537671]Korea has the same problems as we do here. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Lots of fake pics and lies about age. Girls are mostly in their 30's and 40's. Now there are places that are full of early and mid 20's 8+'s and 9's but you will pay over 1 k USD when all is said and done. Anmas usually have decent talent and are a good value if you can get in. Some of the mid tier ones may let foreigners in if you speak enough Korean. These girls are usually in their 30's and on average are at least as good looking if not better than the talent here. The girls that work at the OP and give extras a la carte are a mixed bunch. Prob some hot ones, but probably a lot of busted girls too. A lot of girls will come to the US when they age out of the elite establishments. Hot GFE girls that rim are probably former anma girls.
As a white dude, you are probably better off going to Thailand or the Philippines rather than Korea or Japan. In Thailand and the Philippines, whites are only second to wealthy Northeast Asians when it comes to desirability as a customer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Yeah I figured as much as they seem to cater to their own much like Japan which makes them a tough nut to crack. Korea isn't really known as a P4 P paradise as much as Philippines or Thailand. This is unfortunate as I tend to like the looks of eastern Asians more than the other types out there. It's a hard pill to swallow to learn a whole different language if you want to get a chance to pay for P which is too high of a bar IMO. If I am paying, I'd like to be easier not harder. It is with it is. Though if you learn those skills, you can certainly leverage it other situations (like real dating).
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[QUOTE=SharingHer;6537003]I heard from my Korean friend at my place of work yesterday that for the girls in Korea, COF is an option you can add for $10-$20, and maybe about 25% have this option advertised. You could COF on a new girl's face every day of the week. Unfortunately, the kgirls we have, we are paying them insane amounts of money compared to what they make back home, so an extra $10 is nothing to them.
For girls in their 20's there, in the nicest parts in Seoul, you can have bb, as many shots as you want cip or cof for 2 straight hours for about $250 - $350.1 hr 70 minutes 2 shots bb cof could be as cheap as about $150 for a girl in her 20's. Here we pay them $460 for that, have half the time, and she is likely to be at least 30, if not older.
He said, if we paid $460 a session there, it would straight 21 year old 9's all day long.
Is it any wonder, they don't care to do extras?[/QUOTE]Creampie COF.
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[QUOTE=SharingHer;6537003]I heard from my Korean friend at my place of work yesterday that for the girls in Korea, COF is an option you can add for $10-$20, and maybe about 25% have this option advertised. You could COF on a new girl's face every day of the week. Unfortunately, the kgirls we have, we are paying them insane amounts of money compared to what they make back home, so an extra $10 is nothing to them.
For girls in their 20's there, in the nicest parts in Seoul, you can have bb, as many shots as you want cip or cof for 2 straight hours for about $250 - $350.1 hr 70 minutes 2 shots bb cof could be as cheap as about $150 for a girl in her 20's. Here we pay them $460 for that, have half the time, and she is likely to be at least 30, if not older.
He said, if we paid $460 a session there, it would straight 21 year old 9's all day long.
Is it any wonder, they don't care to do extras?
Examples:
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1687258854-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%EC%98%A4%ED%94%BC-%EC%84%A0%EB%A6%89%EC%97%AD-%ED%94%84%EB%A1%A0%ED%8A%B8[/URL]
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1679318607-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%ED%9C%B4%EA%B2%8C%ED%85%94-%EC%97%AD%EC%82%BC%EC%97%AD-%EA%BC%AC%EB%B6%80%EA%B8%B0[/URL][/QUOTE]Your Korean friend either doesn't know shit or is jerking your chain. I visit Gangnam 4 times per year. Going rate is $200 for 2 shots cfs ina massage parlor with 40+ year old. Now there is an option to get an attractive 20+ year old as a fluffer for a hand job but that's different. The young ones look bored as shit doing it and there's little to no interaction. As another poster stated below, if you want the young high class talent you're going to pay $1 k+. Your competition are wealthy Korean businessman who can outspend you every day of the week so the bar is quite high. Not unusual for these guys to dump bucket loads of cash and then buy the girl a $10 k Rolex and a $5 k Chanel purse. These guys don't have crazy flexible schedules to travel to Vietnam or Thailand so will overpay for top tier talent. So the answer is no, Korea is no paradise to chase P. Cheaper to do it in LA although the quality is variable. You get what you pay for.
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[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6537904]Your Korean friend either doesn't know shit or is jerking your chain. I visit Gangnam 4 times per year. Going rate is $200 for 2 shots cfs ina massage parlor with 40+ year old. Now there is an option to get an attractive 20+ year old as a fluffer for a hand job but that's different. The young ones look bored as shit doing it and there's little to no interaction. As another poster stated below, if you want the young high class talent you're going to pay $1 k+. Your competition are wealthy Korean businessman who can outspend you every day of the week so the bar is quite high. Not unusual for these guys to dump bucket loads of cash and then buy the girl a $10 k Rolex and a $5 k Chanel purse. These guys don't have crazy flexible schedules to travel to Vietnam or Thailand so will overpay for top tier talent. So the answer is no, Korea is no paradise to chase P. Cheaper to do it in LA although the quality is variable. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]You are correct regarding high class agency in Gangnam (although it's still not quite as high as 1 k+ per visit). But if anyone truly believes mongering is better in LA (quality or expense-wise). You probably only know the surface of mongering scene in Korea.
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[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6537904]Your Korean friend either doesn't know shit or is jerking your chain. I visit Gangnam 4 times per year. Going rate is $200 for 2 shots cfs ina massage parlor with 40+ year old. Now there is an option to get an attractive 20+ year old as a fluffer for a hand job but that's different. The young ones look bored as shit doing it and there's little to no interaction. As another poster stated below, if you want the young high class talent you're going to pay $1 k+. Your competition are wealthy Korean businessman who can outspend you every day of the week so the bar is quite high. Not unusual for these guys to dump bucket loads of cash and then buy the girl a $10 k Rolex and a $5 k Chanel purse. These guys don't have crazy flexible schedules to travel to Vietnam or Thailand so will overpay for top tier talent. So the answer is no, Korea is no paradise to chase P. Cheaper to do it in LA although the quality is variable. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]How would girls like NG, Ina, Elle, rank in Gangnam?
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[QUOTE=HiKeke;6537931]You are correct regarding high class agency in Gangnam (although it's still not quite as high as 1 k+ per visit). But if anyone truly believes mongering is better in LA (quality or expense-wise). You probably only know the surface of mongering scene in Korea.[/QUOTE]It's roughly 500 k ( 400) for a room and bottle and then 1 million ( 800) for the second course and the girls can refuse to go out with you. The hottest girls are over 1 k. If you can get into the nice places in Korea then it is 100% better than LA. The good anmas have top LA level talent for 230 k ( 180) an hour. I'd say around 10-30% of them are legit mid to late 20's depending on the establishment. Every now and then LA has its gems. There's an influx of temporary HYAs and CYAs like Celine, Chloe, Haven, Lady Doll, etc. We just had a 10% girl come through recently and imo she was worth every bit of her upcharge.
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[QUOTE=BobLove;6537940]How would girls like NG, Ina, Elle, rank in Gangnam?[/QUOTE]They're like 4,5 in gangnam. Although elle's body is top tier IMO.
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[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6537904]Your Korean friend either doesn't know shit or is jerking your chain. I visit Gangnam 4 times per year. Going rate is $200 for 2 shots cfs ina massage parlor with 40+ year old. Now there is an option to get an attractive 20+ year old as a fluffer for a hand job but that's different. The young ones look bored as shit doing it and there's little to no interaction. As another poster stated below, if you want the young high class talent you're going to pay $1 k+. Your competition are wealthy Korean businessman who can outspend you every day of the week so the bar is quite high. Not unusual for these guys to dump bucket loads of cash and then buy the girl a $10 k Rolex and a $5 k Chanel purse. These guys don't have crazy flexible schedules to travel to Vietnam or Thailand so will overpay for top tier talent. So the answer is no, Korea is no paradise to chase P. Cheaper to do it in LA although the quality is variable. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]He says you are wrong and the GND girls in their twenties can all be had for about 200,000 won for an hour, which is about $150 right now. He said if you pay $460 like we pay here for up charge girls, or about 600,000 krw, then you for sure get someone really hot in their twenties and probably college educated. Someone of the quality that is rarely in LA. But we pay that for every up charge girl. He says because companies pay for this stuff there, you can spend as much as you want and even be connected to girls in the music industry, acting industry, even Olympic athletes and pay $1 K and more, or perfect 10's going to best universities in Korea. But that is not really something available to most of us in LA. He says a fair amount of the older girls here would be working an extras massage parlor type business and would probably be like 130,000 won all in (about $100), but we are all are paying like $400+ for it despite their age. He says very few of the others in town are of the quality that would demand more than 200,000 won or $150 and probably would get no repeats in Seoul. But that's just his opinion.
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[QUOTE=UnassumingGuy;6538020]It's roughly 500 k ( 400) for a room and bottle and then 1 million ( 800) for the second course and the girls can refuse to go out with you. The hottest girls are over 1 k. If you can get into the nice places in Korea then it is 100% better than LA. The good anmas have top LA level talent for 230 k ( 180) an hour. I'd say around 10-30% of them are legit mid to late 20's depending on the establishment. Every now and then LA has its gems. There's an influx of temporary HYAs and CYAs like Celine, Chloe, Haven, Lady Doll, etc. We just had a 10% girl come through recently and imo she was worth every bit of her upcharge.[/QUOTE]Yes. High tier full salons tend to cost that or more. Top of the line girls can cost upwards of 2 k to 3 k+ (think Japanese wagyu).
Anyone who can navigate through Korean sites, check out bamje25 dot com and you can get general idea of current pricing in Korea. Do note that Gangnam isn't the only place you can visit. There are other cities just as populated with stores / agencies. Also go fuck a Russian girl in Korea.
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Girls in Korea
[QUOTE=SharingHer;6537003]I heard from my Korean friend at my place of work yesterday that for the girls in Korea, COF is an option you can add for $10-$20, and maybe about 25% have this option advertised. You could COF on a new girl's face every day of the week. Unfortunately, the kgirls we have, we are paying them insane amounts of money compared to what they make back home, so an extra $10 is nothing to them.
For girls in their 20's there, in the nicest parts in Seoul, you can have bb, as many shots as you want cip or cof for 2 straight hours for about $250 - $350.1 hr 70 minutes 2 shots bb cof could be as cheap as about $150 for a girl in her 20's. Here we pay them $460 for that, have half the time, and she is likely to be at least 30, if not older.
He said, if we paid $460 a session there, it would straight 21 year old 9's all day long.
Is it any wonder, they don't care to do extras?
Examples:
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1687258854-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%EC%98%A4%ED%94%BC-%EC%84%A0%EB%A6%89%EC%97%AD-%ED%94%84%EB%A1%A0%ED%8A%B8[/URL]
[URL]https://lonelynight.net/store/1679318607-%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8%ED%9C%B4%EA%B2%8C%ED%85%94-%EC%97%AD%EC%82%BC%EC%97%AD-%EA%BC%AC%EB%B6%80%EA%B8%B0[/URL][/QUOTE]I never used that site, but made an appointment off MassageRepublic when I last visited Seoul in January 2020 (one of my last trips before Covid).
Booked this super hottie on MassageRepublic who had the exact same rates as the K-orgs in the US (like 300,320?) but it included MSOG and she was WAY hotter and spoke perfect English. All GFE and CFS which I prefer. She only caters to non-Koreans to avoid anyone recognizing her.
She was outcall only so she came to my AirBnB and only communicated via email. She was very professional before arriving, even shooting an email when her taxi was stuck in traffic and running late.
Sidenote for people who go to Korea, AirBnBs in Korea are amazingly super nice with high city views and some even have the Korean toilets with buttons and water shooting up. Prices are good too. AirBnBs I've used in Seoul and Busan have been better than any I've ever had in the USA.
It was winter so she arrived in a coat. She took it off to reveal a school girl outfit. I knew she was different when I slapped her ass and she told me to do it harder lmao. Needless to say, it was a great time. Her pics were also 100% her.
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[QUOTE=Bince33;6538825]I never used that site, but made an appointment off MassageRepublic when I last visited Seoul in January 2020 (one of my last trips before Covid).
Booked this super hottie on MassageRepublic who had the exact same rates as the K-orgs in the US (like 300,320?) but it included MSOG and she was WAY hotter and spoke perfect English. All GFE and CFS which I prefer. She only caters to non-Koreans to avoid anyone recognizing her.
She was outcall only so she came to my AirBnB and only communicated via email. She was very professional before arriving, even shooting an email when her taxi was stuck in traffic and running late.
Sidenote for people who go to Korea, AirBnBs in Korea are amazingly super nice with high city views and some even have the Korean toilets with buttons and water shooting up. Prices are good too. AirBnBs I've used in Seoul and Busan have been better than any I've ever had in the USA..[/QUOTE]Korean toilets are the best! There are three kinds. Ones like in the USA are rare. Most have bidets. Then there are the squaters. What I never really got the hang of is how the bathrooms are like big showers and you can clean the whole room with the shower nozzle. Most will have plastic slippers when you enter cause subconciouslywater on the floor reminds me of pee splater In contrast, Japan has smart toilets that have LEDs and will communicate with you while testing your pee and stool samples.
I will always pound the table with the following, meet the local women. Why travel and pay for sex? Pay the learn the local cuisine. Pay to learn the local dance. Pay to do yoga. Korea is a hiking culture and everyone takes it seriously with telescoping sticks and almost like hiking uniforms, LOL. Everyone will say different, but don't pay for sex in Korea. Learn the culture and as a side benefit you'll get the chicks. Plus, it is so much fun to have a local showing you around while you inquisitively look for the double barber shop poles and the red bull gilfs.
