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[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6891460]Just curious how much allowance were you giving to meet up how many times?[/QUOTE]For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.

[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6891460]Just curious how much allowance were you giving to meet up how many times?[/QUOTE]How was Ella's pussy when you piped? Sometimes I feel like hitting her back up but she was kinda autistic / fobby.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;6891483]For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.[/QUOTE]You get takers at 350?? In LA?? That's impressive. Do you have to weed through a lot of no's to get that accepted?

[QUOTE=Lexx1;6891483]For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.[/QUOTE]You should definitely hang on to your SBs. 200-350 ppm are impossible to find nowadays. 15 years ago I was giving 400-500 ppm for 8's. Nowadays I'm giving 1 k-1500 ppm for the 7's and 8's not even the 9's and 10's and they're complaining it's way too low and block / ignore me LOL.

[QUOTE=StevenWalker;6891670]How was Ella's pussy when you piped? Sometimes I feel like hitting her back up but she was kinda autistic / fobby.[/QUOTE]You replied to the wrong message LOL.

[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6891981]You should definitely hang on to your SBs. 200-350 ppm are impossible to find nowadays. 15 years ago I was giving 400-500 ppm for 8's. Nowadays I'm giving 1 k-1500 ppm for the 7's and 8's not even the 9's and 10's and they're complaining it's way too low and block / ignore me LOL.[/QUOTE]Of course I hang on to my girls. Have done so since the beginning of my journey in the nonpros / sugaring P4 P world. For me this P4 P game is the best value and bang for the buck. But the key always to maximize return is keeping the price low. If you're spending 500 and way above. In my opinion it's really not worth it. You might as well go the Korean agency route or sites like Humaniplex. You wouldn't have to be fighting trying to find new babies amongst the crap pool we have nowadays. Most of them are return babies and what I like to call career sugarbabies. Which in my mind there's another term, Prostitute. 1000 and above to me is a strict hell no! Not even 500. The reason I'm not on Seeking anymore because the young age range I like is pretty much gone. Barely one and a half pages come up in a search for 18 to 20 year olds. The fresh babies just really aren't there anymore. That's why I'm gone from Seeking. I have a stable right now of 6 girls. Latina, White and Asian. And finally a Black girl again but she's off and on.

And Seekings monthly subscription price being above 100 now is just dumb. I started when it was 70/80 without discount. But now with the state of the pool on there. Seeking really should be lowering their monthly price. I've seen their ads on SM trying to attract more people to join. They need to target their ads more though to attract young females. There's way more than enough dudes on there where you can call it a sausage fest. The site needs a lot more fresh young honeys again.

[QUOTE=Murrican;6891933]You get takers at 350?? In LA?? That's impressive. Do you have to weed through a lot of no's to get that accepted?[/QUOTE]I don't go for mid 20's and up girls usually. Also I didn't message girls that have been there for a couple months or more. You want to find young truly fresh girls to the site. A girl that has never been paid directly for sex which is a non-pro. No career sugarbabies (returning babies) or girls that have been there for a while. Older chics have more responsibilities which means they expect more. And if they've been on there a while they've been hit up by every guy already. Fresh, fresh, fresh is the key and young. And as I mentioned I'm not offering that 350 often. That's reserved only for fine as fuck girls, 9 or 10s, and they need to be ok with everything in bed. No anal is fine that's not a deal breaker. My girls range from 6s to 10s. Once in a while I'll go for a fair looking girl because she's inexpensive but at least has a great body and is freaky in bed. But that 350 isn't always offered by me. I keep it usually below that. Sometimes I can negotiate a 9 or 10 below my hard max. Just have to know how to work a negotiation.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;6892249]I don't go for mid 20's and up girls usually. Also I didn't message girls that have been there for a couple months or more. You want to find young truly fresh girls to the site. A girl that has never been paid directly for sex which is a non-pro. No career sugarbabies (returning babies) or girls that have been there for a while. Older chics have more responsibilities which means they expect more. And if they've been on there a while they've been hit up by every guy already. Fresh, fresh, fresh is the key and young. And as I mentioned I'm not offering that 350 often. That's reserved only for fine as fuck girls, 9 or 10s, and they need to be ok with everything in bed. No anal is fine that's not a deal breaker. My girls range from 6s to 10s. Once in a while I'll go for a fair looking girl because she's inexpensive but at least has a great body and is freaky in bed. But that 350 isn't always offered by me. I keep it usually below that. Sometimes I can negotiate a 9 or 10 below my hard max. Just have to know how to work a negotiation.[/QUOTE]Forgot to add. I don't just hunt girls in LA. I also find girls in the IE and OC. OC and IE girls I've found not to be as expensive as LA girls. LA girls just think they're in that bougie lifestyle and front. Not all but a lot. Girls in other areas to me seem to be more down to earth and not so pretentious. So I don't mind traveling a little bit to find a treasure.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;6892519]Forgot to add. I don't just hunt girls in LA. I also find girls in the IE and OC. OC and IE girls I've found not to be as expensive as LA girls. LA girls just think they're in that bougie lifestyle and front. Not all but a lot. Girls in other areas to me seem to be more down to earth and not so pretentious. So I don't mind traveling a little bit to find a treasure.[/QUOTE]The SGV has always been more of a bargain for sure.

Any see Julie? I think I have her number since she was on seeking. I think she quoted me 7 big ones but I don't honestly remember. She has a fob accent on her verification video though. It kinda makes me hesistant.

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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6893050]The SGV has always been more of a bargain for sure.[/QUOTE]Well technically SGV is still LA county but it's edging to OC and IE. But I've had some finds there that were great girl next door types and not pricy. Usually Latinas and Asians.

So where are all the newer and younger girls? I have been on since 2015 and while it always took a long time to find someone you really wanted Its really bad. Are they simply not sugaring anymore in the traditional sense? I think someone here mentioned OF but with OF, my SBs that tried it gave up. You have to be basically be an amateur professional porn star on the grind to make real money, doing content and drumming up promotion continually. Seems more degrading and underpaid than a real job LOL.

[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;6893155]So where are all the newer and younger girls?[/QUOTE]You won't find them here.

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[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;6893155]So where are all the newer and younger girls? I have been on since 2015 and while it always took a long time to find someone you really wanted Its really bad. Are they simply not sugaring anymore in the traditional sense? I think someone here mentioned OF but with OF, my SBs that tried it gave up. You have to be basically be an amateur professional porn star on the grind to make real money, doing content and drumming up promotion continually. Seems more degrading and underpaid than a real job LOL.[/QUOTE]Frankly there is no exact answer. Some say social media sites. We really all are just guessing. Myself I've gone back to basics and no longer on any sugaring sites. I've always used regular dating sites off and on. Off when I've been in a real relationship with a girlfriend and also not mongering. When I've been single, like I am now, I go back on dating sites and also monger. And mongering means ALL forms of P4 P including sugaring.

I also pick up girls in public the old fashioned way. I've also met some girls off social media like Insta, Facebook, etc. So when I've been single I've always done a mix of real civie dating and P4 P. Dating sites can work, you find girls there looking for all sorts of relationship types. Some actually want a bf or husband, some just want a fuck buddy, some one night stands and some even look for a sugardaddy. I've found all those types on dating sites. So now I'm doing a mix of dating sites, social media and good ole picking up girls in public. And my HoDar is still good to identify street hos(not pimped) and still dabble in the P4P game of street mongering. I'd pick up girls at work if I was still regularly working in the office. But I work from home now in my profession. So the office is not an option anymore. So you guys have to really branch out nowadays. Some of you can't because of SOs. But you single dudes. There's really nothing stopping you.