"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Easy one -- unload inside -- every time. Even if they say not to, I have faked it and then pulled out and pretended to unload afterwards (I know. I am bad LOL), or if I know I will not see them again -- just unload and take the heat!

I will say that the above is rare, most I see either know I am vas safe, or are on the pill and do not care!

GW.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2443672]For those of you who have had vasectomies, do you unload inside the girl or do you pull out?

The reason I ask is that when I was a teenager, I would cum inside them more out of laziness or stupidity maybe. I always figured that pulling out right as I came would diminish the best part of the experience. But in my teens, I either was banging someone I was dating (in which case they would often be on the pill), or it was kind of a drunken one-night stand where I figured the odds of pregnancy were small with an occasional incident, and I knew a girl that age that barely knew me had good motivation to abort (to save her reputation). Plus I had no real assets to go after at the time so I didn't give it much thought.

As I got older and began to acquire and own things (had something to potentially lose in a paternity case), I started pulling out every single time, even if she said she was on the pill. It's actually hard for me to remember whether it diminishes the experience or not, that's how long it's been since I came inside a woman. I recall doing so once about 12 years ago with a one-night stand, but it was an accident. I was having too much fun, she was riding me cowgirl, and I just didn't have the heart to stop her before the big event. She was married so it kind of freaked her out, as she was not on the pill or anything, luckily no pregnancy followed.

Usually with most women I "date" (current SO included), I like to finish in their mouth, getting maximum intensity of orgasm without risk of pregnancy (I realize that's a preferential thing, but to me coming in their mouth feels the best of all options). With SBs I don't typically expect them to take a load in the mouth -- I'm sure many of them would, but since I typically only go out with any given SB once, it normally seems more convenient to just pull out and paste them all over their tits, tummy, ass or whatever than to try to see if they are the type that will take a mouth shot.

So recently, I was thinking to myself, if I had a vasectomy, would I just cum inside from then on? I really don't know. Old habits die hard and I guess I've gotten fond of seeing how much goo I can blast them with, and they seem kind of fond of it too (I guess it's the ultimate showing of appreciation if you look at it that way. LOL).

What do those of you who are snipped do?[/QUOTE]

A POT I started messaging yesterday. She is on board for the $ donation. She is 25,5'6". Tight body. Most likely UTR. But not totally sure yet. Another 7/9.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2443672]...
Usually with most women I "date" (current SO included), I like to finish in their mouth, getting maximum intensity of orgasm without risk of pregnancy (I realize that's a preferential thing, but to me coming in their mouth feels the best of all options). With SBs I don't typically expect them to take a load in the mouth -- I'm sure many of them would, but since I typically only go out with any given SB once, it normally seems more convenient to just pull out and paste them all over their tits, tummy, ass or whatever than to try to see if they are the type that will take a mouth shot.

So recently, I was thinking to myself, if I had a vasectomy, would I just cum inside from then on? I really don't know. Old habits die hard and I guess I've gotten fond of seeing how much goo I can blast them with, and they seem kind of fond of it too (I guess it's the ultimate showing of appreciation if you look at it that way. LOL).

What do those of you who are snipped do?[/QUOTE]What's so different with SBs? The worst that can happen is they say no to CIM and the ones of the type that HWG dates are teachable so they can learn to swallow a load.

I have a missus without a physical relationship and am thinking of getting it. There was a long discussion on this forum about how to do it UTR in response to my question. I came across a doctor (not sure if he was a urologist) who offered a minimally invasive procedure more effective than the conventional technique with hardly any recovery time. If I did need any time to recover I am planning to just stay home and tell everyone (work & family) that I am under the weather!

BTW do not use your health insurance! Pay cash if possible or use a Vanilla (prepaid) credit card / check on a secret bank account.

Even if you are intimate with your SO there will always be a few day in a month when she will not be seeing "it" since she cannot use "it".

Do not give up so quickly bro' explore and research all possible ways of accomplishing it. As they. No pain No gain.

Why have I not yet done it? Because I have yet to score with an SB in her reproductive years sob. Sob and the couple that I have been with allow CIM / facial.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2440874]Man, hindsight is 20-20. I wish I had a vasectomy when I had the chance.

This would make sex w SBs so much better now.



Can't do it now without making obvious what I am doing. Dang.[/QUOTE]

Did he tell you how much?

Traditional ones w / o insurance can be just crazy expensive.

I met a coupe who fuck without a condom. I just don't want to be a daddy.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2444451]I have a missus without a physical relationship and am thinking of getting it. There was a long discussion on this forum about how to do it UTR in response to my question. I came across a doctor (not sure if he was a urologist) who offered a minimally invasive procedure more effective than the conventional technique with hardly any recovery time. If I did need any time to recover I am planning to just stay home and tell everyone (work & family) that I am under the weather!

BTW do not use your health insurance! Pay cash if possible or use a Vanilla (prepaid) credit card / check on a secret bank account.

Even if you are intimate with your SO there will always be a few day in a month when she will not be seeing "it" since she cannot use "it".

Do not give up so quickly bro' explore and research all possible ways of accomplishing it. As they. No pain No gain.

Why have I not yet done it? Because I have yet to score with an SB in her reproductive years sob. Sob and the couple that I have been with allow CIM / facial.[/QUOTE]

HG:

This looks great.

There is just no way you can get quality honey with $ in DC / NoVA.

I have plenty balking already at higher rates.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2444059]A POT I started messaging yesterday. She is on board for the $ donation. She is 25,5'6". Tight body. Most likely UTR. But not totally sure yet. Another 7/9.[/QUOTE]

Based o advice here: I just said Sayanora to a college student who seems to have no time for me. Met once for coffee a while ago and even that was like pulling teeth.

She is cute. Dang.

I told her to give my number to any friends who may be interested. Hope is eternal.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2444417]What's so different with SBs? The worst that can happen is they say no to CIM and the ones of the type that HWG dates are teachable so they can learn to swallow a load.[/QUOTE]The difference with me is that I'm never looking for recurring dates. I hit it once and move on. I don't have enough days out of the year away from the SO to spend a lot of time with any one girl so I try to date as many as possible during a compressed time frame.

No reason not to CIM with an SB, but usually I am in the FC with them within a couple of hours of the first meeting, so I don't want to risk screwing up my orgasm by going for the mouth shot, when it's not all that important to me. If I kept on seeing the same girl, it would probably happen by the second or third date (or there definitely wouldn't be a fourth).

So to me it's not worth the risk of them saying no, even if 70% of them would say yes. Some women have an aversion to semen that is just psychological and I don't want to spend time figuring things out on such a short stint with each girl.

The other issue is that often times when a girl swallows or just takes the load in her mouth, she is trying to make sure you're happy in the "long-term" (i.e. demonstrate her worthiness as a girlfriend or ongoing fuckbuddy or whatever). I don't want that. I already have a problem with them hanging around, wanting to sleep next to me, cuddle etc. Maybe if I weren't in a serious relationship I would have a different take on it all, but I would rather just sleep alone after 2 or 3 rounds of sex.

Maybe in all my horniness I have a bit of personal integrity somewhere in there, but I don't like sending mixed messages or playing with people's minds.

It hurts, but in the end, its the best move you can make. I had two young college girls who were either to busy for my schedule or were playing games. I get the feeling that some of these young girls play the kind of dating games they are told to play in real life (e. G. Play hard to get initially otherwise the guy will lose interest, etc.) and bring that nonsense to the bowl. I have also found that these are the girls that are perpetually online on these sugar sites.

By cutting her loose, you have made time for yourself to meet a SB that will accomodate you and your schedule and who will be equally, or more attractive. This is how things should work. We are the ones providing the allowance, not the other way around.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2444550]Based o advice here: I just said Sayanora to a college student who seems to have no time for me. Met once for coffee a while ago and even that was like pulling teeth.

She is cute. Dang.

I told her to give my number to any friends who may be interested. Hope is eternal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2445169]It hurts, but in the end, its the best move you can make. I had two young college girls who were either to busy for my schedule or were playing games. I get the feeling that some of these young girls play the kind of dating games they are told to play in real life (e. G. Play hard to get initially otherwise the guy will lose interest, etc.) and bring that nonsense to the bowl. I have also found that these are the girls that are perpetually online on these sugar sites.

By cutting her loose, you have made time for yourself to meet a SB that will accomodate you and your schedule and who will be equally, or more attractive. This is how things should work. We are the ones providing the allowance, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]I have met a load of these 18 to 22 yr old gamers. They have very specific limits as to how far they will go to get the $$ . The ones who "get it " and play the game right will prosper. Just like us they will have to fuck a few frogs before they hit paydirt. But in the end if they will satisfy Daddy they will have more than they ever dreamed of. I saw an adorable 19 yr old who set the limit at oral -nothing vaginal-in return for a hefty allowance. I don't know about you guys, but anything short of vaginal play is a nonstarter and I'm not that desperate.

The thing is, these girls buy into the marketing and think there is a Knight in shining armor out there who will give them lots of money for looking cute. That is rarely the case.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2445217]I have met a load of these 18 to 22 yr old gamers. They have very specific limits as to how far they will go to get the $$ . The ones who "get it " and play the game right will prosper. Just like us they will have to fuck a few frogs before they hit paydirt. But in the end if they will satisfy Daddy they will have more than they ever dreamed of. I saw an adorable 19 yr old who set the limit at oral -nothing vaginal-in return for a hefty allowance. I don't know about you guys, but anything short of vaginal play is a nonstarter and I'm not that desperate.

The thing is, these girls buy into the marketing and think there is a Knight in shining armor out there who will give them lots of money for looking cute. That is rarely the case.[/QUOTE]I have a flakey college SB. I just learned to tolerate the scheduling inconsistencies. She's cute enough and we never harp over any issues. At times, I have seen her pull all nighters studying. I'm quite forgiving. Her body makes up for it. I've dealt with a few SB's so far and for a girl with my preferred height and body type I cut her some slack. She's a 10 in bed and very submissive. As far as sugar, there's no set amount. She only reaches out when things come up like a car repair, cell phone bill, minor stuff.

I have seen some discussion on this topic.
So when I saw this profile I thought I would message them.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e08005da/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Me: NOTHING SEXUAL. ?

Them: dependsss.

I remember the cash price for this particular type of procedure was advertised by this doc for a few hundred $ Also do not go by the cost of service given by the insurance co get it from the actual provider by asking for cash price or price for self insured patients.

Hospitals have one price for insurers and another for cash paying patients.

If you and the SO are not planning on having children then you can offer to be snipped and save her the burden of being on the pill etc She will then owe you one!

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2444536]Did he tell you how much?

Traditional ones w / o insurance can be just crazy expensive.

I met a coupe who fuck without a condom. I just don't want to be a daddy.[/QUOTE]

Wow did not know that CIM / facial is indicative of a special relationship between a man & a woman. Some of the women I have paid for did not kiss as it was "personal".

I always politely ask if I can CIM! Yes means I am on cloud 9 no they offer their boobs instead. No one has hinted that they do that only for their BF etc seems like they either do it or not with anybody.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2444779]...
The other issue is that often times when a girl swallows or just takes the load in her mouth, she is trying to make sure you're happy in the "long-term" (i.e. demonstrate her worthiness as a girlfriend or ongoing fuckbuddy or whatever). I don't want that. I already have a problem with them hanging around, wanting to sleep next to me, cuddle etc. Maybe if I weren't in a serious relationship I would have a different take on it all, but I would rather just sleep alone after 2 or 3 rounds of sex.

Maybe in all my horniness I have a bit of personal integrity somewhere in there, but I don't like sending mixed messages or playing with people's minds.[/QUOTE]

Date # 3 with the "model". She came over after school yesterday about 3 and stayed for 24 hours. She finally got over not fucking me because I was a "ho".

It was nice to have someone stay over, something I hadn't done in about 9 months but it did disrupt my sleep and work today a bit.

She told me about her previous and only other SD. A guy she saw randomly and only had sex with once a month for 8 hundred dollars a month allowance. And that was a year ago and she hadn't found anyone since. But she still was way too spoiled and kind up a lightweight in the FC to even think about seeing again. She ended up being a 7/9/9/7 and bitched about what I spent on her in spite of me telling her exactly what I would spend before she ever got here. She wasn't mean, just disappointed.

I did create a new profile for her on SA so I am sure she will do fine. And I wish her well but doubt I will see her anytime soon. We connected on a mental level more than anything else. She was more of a GF type outside the FC. But that's not what I care about.