Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4550068]I hate to wade into the whole rate debate it is what it is. And honestly, depending on the lady and services I have no issue paying top dollar. So, really I am just asking. I went to Serenity the other day and paid $180 (80 door plus tip) for a fully nude, free roaming HJ. Too much?? Great lady, great convo, not rushed and skilled sensual release. I was happy (LOL). I guess inflation hits everywhere (door fee has obviously gone up) but it wasn't too long ago and you could get FS for that money. I know the famous Mikki is still $200.[/QUOTE]If paying top dollar gets you a top quality experience, I believe paying top dollar is worth it. It means a wonderful and memorable adult pleasure and that means much more to me than saving a few dollars for the cheaper experiences. I always seek out the quality and have that brief understanding that I want a GF experience as things get underway. That said, I believe to get the best it has to be a concerted effort. When I show up, I present a clean, confident, alpha male persona who is well dressed and smells fresh. I am polite, complimentary, and fun. This has gotten me very far quite often on the second visit. I usually get the full GF experience because they know they're in for a good time as well. It's been a great formula for me and I don't mind paying for it.

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4550068]I hate to wade into the whole rate debate it is what it is. And honestly, depending on the lady and services I have no issue paying top dollar. So, really I am just asking. I went to Serenity the other day and paid $180 (80 door plus tip) for a fully nude, free roaming HJ. Too much?? Great lady, great convo, not rushed and skilled sensual release. I was happy (LOL). I guess inflation hits everywhere (door fee has obviously gone up) but it wasn't too long ago and you could get FS for that money. I know the famous Mikki is still $200.[/QUOTE]You say that "not too long ago" you could get FS for that. I hate to tell you but there are many quality providers that will charge a whole lot less than $180 for FS TODAY! Even out in Portland, OR (where I do most of my playtime) you would be insane for paying $180 for a HJ. Hell, you can get a genuine Nuru massage for $150 for a half hour from a good looking South African here in town with an incredibly satisfying ending. Because I use a market outside of GR as a basis for my valuation in town, I just don't find many girls around here to be worth the prices the guys in town are content with paying. The high prices are more a sign of the desperation in the men around GR more than a sign of "inflation". Inflation occurs when the buyers are competing for a scarce resource. In this case, however, the girls around town her are so much smarter than the men purchasing services that they are able to command a much higher rate than they would get outside this market. Saying that you don't have an issue paying top dollar is just another way of saying, "Hmm. I could get this gallon of gas for $2. 39 at Meijer, but I don't mind paying top dollar, so I'm going to go to manager of the Meijer gas station and tell her I'd like to pay $2. 90 a gallon to fill up my F-150 because they provide such good service here. " That thinking makes no sense to me.

If I choose to see a girl here in town, it's because she offers something that the run of the mill doesn't offer around here. Sweet, who advertizes professional only (and I don't blame her with the knuckleheads around these days) has a fantastic massage for a great price and the ending isn't the point of seeing her. Sweet Meghan provides a girlfriend massage experience that is truely something different, but definitely not for everyone. The girls at MBD are top dollar girls, and while they are nice, I won't repeat with any of them because the value isn't there for me compared to Sweet, Sweet Meghan or any girl in PDX.

That's my 3 cents worth.

I saw Layla for the first time this week. Thank you everyone for your reviews. She is a great girl! Made me feel comfortable and I had a great time. I will repeat.

My 4 cents (was 2. But, Inflation!) I don't pay more than 60 bucks for an hour massage at any Michigan Massage Parlor or Asian Massage Parlor! Period. Full Stop! It does not matter how hot the internet pics are or how great the reviews are, excluding, perhaps, a Professor Benz UTR. Not because I'm a Cheap Fuck, but because not getting an above average ROI makes me insane.

I travel outside the USA frequently to Monger. It has spoiled me and opened up my eyes. These pricing issues always seem to shake out in the long run. Most ladies disappear quickly. I say pay as much as you want. Just be open minded to some constructive criticism or unhinged blow back. If a bird lands on your head and you allow it to build a nest, that's on you, not the bird!

[QUOTE=GMacMan;4550503]You say that "not too long ago" you could get FS for that. I hate to tell you but there are many quality providers that will charge a whole lot less than $180 for FS TODAY! Even out in Portland, OR (where I do most of my playtime) you would be insane for paying $180 for a HJ. Hell, you can get a genuine Nuru massage for $150 for a half hour from a good looking South African here in town with an incredibly satisfying ending. Because I use a market outside of GR as a basis for my valuation in town, I just don't find many girls around here to be worth the prices the guys in town are content with paying. The high prices are more a sign of the desperation in the men around GR more than a sign of "inflation". Inflation occurs when the buyers are competing for a scarce resource. In this case, however, the girls around town her are so much smarter than the men purchasing services that they are able to command a much higher rate than they would get outside this market. Saying that you don't have an issue paying top dollar is just another way of saying, "Hmm. I could get this gallon of gas for $2. 39 at Meijer, but I don't mind paying top dollar, so I'm going to go to manager of the Meijer gas station and tell her I'd like to pay $2. 90 a gallon to fill up my F-150 because they provide such good service here. " That thinking makes no sense to me.

If I choose to see a girl here in town, it's because she offers something that the run of the mill doesn't offer around here. Sweet, who advertizes professional only (and I don't blame her with the knuckleheads around these days) has a fantastic massage for a great price and the ending isn't the point of seeing her. Sweet Meghan provides a girlfriend massage experience that is truely something different, but definitely not for everyone. The girls at MBD are top dollar girls, and while they are nice, I won't repeat with any of them because the value isn't there for me compared to Sweet, Sweet Meghan or any girl in PDX.

That's my 3 cents worth.[/QUOTE]I suppose all valuation discussions are subjective but, for me, the ladies at MBD provide extraordinary value. I know what to expect, know that I will receive a quality massage from a mature and experienced provider and will leave with a smile and no buyer's remorse. Your experience may be quite different but I am a MBD fan.

Does anybody know if Faith still works at Royal Touch or if she left when they supposedly got new ownership?

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4550535]My 4 cents (was 2. But, Inflation!) I don't pay more than 60 bucks for an hour massage at any Michigan Massage Parlor or Asian Massage Parlor! Period. Full Stop! It does not matter how hot the internet pics are or how great the reviews are, excluding, perhaps, a Professor Benz UTR. Not because I'm a Cheap Fuck, but because not getting an above average ROI makes me insane.

I travel outside the USA frequently to Monger. It has spoiled me and opened up my eyes. These pricing issues always seem to shake out in the long run. Most ladies disappear quickly. I say pay as much as you want. Just be open minded to some constructive criticism or unhinged blow back. If a bird lands on your head and you allow it to build a nest, that's on you, not the bird![/QUOTE]Well said and with fewer words! I think those of us that travel have a much different (and shared?) perspective on the local action.

I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.

[QUOTE=GMacMan;4551341]Well said and with fewer words! I think those of us that travel have a much different (and shared?) perspective on the local action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;4551372]I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.[/QUOTE]Hopefully I was not just called "stupid"? I have been in the hobby for 30 years and have experienced just about all it has to offer. Here and else where. My post was more of just a question. I haven't been to a MP for a while and no where in GR for over a year. I was just wondering if what I paid is now the going rate. The session was excellent, babe was hot, got nude right off the bat and allowed full roaming (FIV) and hinted at more for the right price. I was OK with everything and realize some places (like Serenity) are going to charge more. Just wondering if this was the new normal. Please don't get into rate debate or where you have been or how great you are at negotiating these ladies down or what you won't pay. Was $150 - 180 the going rate at Serenity?

My apologies. I wasn't directing that at you personally. Just chiming in on the rate debate in general.

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4551443]Hopefully I was not just called "stupid"? I have been in the hobby for 30 years and have experienced just about all it has to offer. Here and else where. My post was more of just a question. I haven't been to a MP for a while and no where in GR for over a year. I was just wondering if what I paid is now the going rate. The session was excellent, babe was hot, got nude right off the bat and allowed full roaming (FIV) and hinted at more for the right price. I was OK with everything and realize some places (like Serenity) are going to charge more. Just wondering if this was the new normal. Please don't get into rate debate or where you have been or how great you are at negotiating these ladies down or what you won't pay. Was $150 - 180 the going rate at Serenity?[/QUOTE]

The proper rate is what the market bears. You cannot compare overseas or even a different part of the US to grand Rapids. Everything from milk to gas to HEs will vary by location.

If you want to compare within-market rates, that's more appropriate. But even then there should be an allowance for budget and taste. Perhaps I can get full service cheaper. But perhaps a less-than-full-service provider checks more boxes (looks, location safety, kink friendly etc.) I might overpay for latter.

180 may be a bit much. But if the performance was great, set up was easy, felt safe, and could lead to long term connection with better rate? That might be worth it.

[QUOTE=Monger01;4551372]I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes I curse the day I first Mongered outside of the USA. But, most of the time, I just smile and let the happy memories float around me.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4551796]Sometimes I curse the day I first Mongered outside of the USA. But, most of the time, I just smile and let the happy memories float around me.[/QUOTE]I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?

Recently had another great session with Julia / Sweetcheeks. Nice accommodations with music / waves playing in the background. Good personality, and after the flip the girls came out; like it when I don't have to ask / beg for this! Also enjoyed not only a good MS, but a good dose of expert teasing (even before the flip); not that common where one can get both a quality MS and quality teasing. Full hour. She does a lot of things right.

[QUOTE=Choose;4551911]I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?[/QUOTE]For example, in Central America, the women are gorgeous (a 7 is a Michigan 12), 100 USD gets 2-3 hours and 2 pops, a great attitude and no hard drugs. The Hobby is Legal and the weather is fabulous! In Costa Rica the MPs, called Pensiones, have 4 - 10 chicas on duty to choose from. Prices are 20-40 for a half hour, 30-80 for an hour. That gets you a massage, BJ and cfs!