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Reality check
Recently seen one of the areas better providers, she has been around for awhile. She is always hot and knows what she is doing. Had a great session and as I'm making small talk about what my afternoon was going to be like she said to me "well at least you get to go back to a normal life and no one knows that you pay for sex" I was taken back as she started to say I wish I could do what your complaining about. She got emotional saying she has been in the business for years and has only had 1 real boyfriend who eventually cheated. She said she is always lonely and can't find a real job due to her being online advertising. I felt really bad for her. Then I thought is my life really that normal that I enable a woman to stay in this industry? Really made me question myself. Some of these girls are truly stuck in this game forever. I hope she eventually finds a way out and someone who loves her. She deserves that before its to late. I also realized my life is not normal and I hold many secrets. I'm not the guy many think I am and really don't deserve the life I have. I hope I can change someday before its to late for me. Sorry to be a buzzkill but I'm sure I'm not the only monger who needs to get things off their chest.
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Reality check
[QUOTE=DunhamAll;5557954]Recently seen one of the areas better providers, she has been around for awhile. She is always hot and knows what she is doing. Had a great session and as I'm making small talk about what my afternoon was going to be like she said to me "well at least you get to go back to a normal life and no one knows that you pay for sex" I was taken back as she started to say I wish I could do what your complaining about. She got emotional saying she has been in the business for years and has only had 1 real boyfriend who eventually cheated. She said she is always lonely and can't find a real job due to her being online advertising. I felt really bad for her. Then I thought is my life really that normal that I enable a woman to stay in this industry? Really made me question myself. Some of these girls are truly stuck in this game forever. I hope she eventually finds a way out and someone who loves her. She deserves that before its to late. I also realized my life is not normal and I hold many secrets. I'm not the guy many think I am and really don't deserve the life I have. I hope I can change someday before its to late for me. Sorry to be a buzzkill but I'm sure I'm not the only monger who needs to get things off their chest.[/QUOTE]Ironically I was talking to a fellow monger about something kinda similar earlier today. I had seen a SW 10 or 15 times always for BBBJCIM. She hated the CIM and always gagged and spit as fast as she could. She eventually told me it wasn't just the CIM, it was giving blowjobs that she hated. I expressed my surprise because she was very good at it and never rushed through it. She told me "I should be good at it, my dad taught me how to do it as soon as I started getting boobs." And I never saw her again. Realizing I was probably about the same age as her dad I just couldn't.
All of us lead secret lives. Some are more heavily invested than others. I've been in the game for coming up on 30 years now and rarely feel much guilt, but that one really got to me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it's not always easy.
HS.
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[QUOTE=DunhamAll;5557954]Recently seen one of the areas better providers, she has been around for awhile. She is always hot and knows what she is doing. Had a great session and as I'm making small talk about what my afternoon was going to be like she said to me "well at least you get to go back to a normal life and no one knows that you pay for sex" I was taken back as she started to say I wish I could do what your complaining about. She got emotional saying she has been in the business for years and has only had 1 real boyfriend who eventually cheated. She said she is always lonely and can't find a real job due to her being online advertising. I felt really bad for her. Then I thought is my life really that normal that I enable a woman to stay in this industry? Really made me question myself. Some of these girls are truly stuck in this game forever. I hope she eventually finds a way out and someone who loves her. She deserves that before its to late. I also realized my life is not normal and I hold many secrets. I'm not the guy many think I am and really don't deserve the life I have. I hope I can change someday before its to late for me. Sorry to be a buzzkill but I'm sure I'm not the only monger who needs to get things off their chest.[/QUOTE]The thought process is very common I'm sure and it's part of how we were raised. In quite a few foreign countries this kind of transaction is not looked down upon so harshly. Some women I have met are doing this for family, it's part of the culture and they keep it private and don't talk about it much and their daughters some day will have to provide for them. I wouldn't be hard on yourself for being conscientious.
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Tale as old as time
We all have our demons that we live with every day. Addiction, mental health, past trauma, etc. It is unfortunate, but we all have a life to live, and each decision we make impacts it in one way or the other. Just because you do bad things, does not make you a bad person, just as the inverse is true. Some of us have made bad decisions in life, and will have to feel the effects of those decisions for a very long time, if not forever. Feel sympathy if you wish. We all can be sympathetic in some form or another, but try to remember that they are right where they want to be, just as you are.
[QUOTE=DunhamAll;5557954]Recently seen one of the areas better providers, she has been around for awhile. She is always hot and knows what she is doing. Had a great session and as I'm making small talk about what my afternoon was going to be like she said to me "well at least you get to go back to a normal life and no one knows that you pay for sex" I was taken back as she started to say I wish I could do what your complaining about. She got emotional saying she has been in the business for years and has only had 1 real boyfriend who eventually cheated. She said she is always lonely and can't find a real job due to her being online advertising. I felt really bad for her. Then I thought is my life really that normal that I enable a woman to stay in this industry? Really made me question myself. Some of these girls are truly stuck in this game forever. I hope she eventually finds a way out and someone who loves her. She deserves that before its to late. I also realized my life is not normal and I hold many secrets. I'm not the guy many think I am and really don't deserve the life I have. I hope I can change someday before its to late for me. Sorry to be a buzzkill but I'm sure I'm not the only monger who needs to get things off their chest.[/QUOTE]
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How Odd!
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;5558229]Ironically I was talking to a fellow monger about something kinda similar earlier today. I had seen a SW 10 or 15 times always for BBBJCIM. She hated the CIM and always gagged and spit as fast as she could. She eventually told me it wasn't just the CIM, it was giving blowjobs that she hated. I expressed my surprise because she was very good at it and never rushed through it. She told me "I should be good at it, my dad taught me how to do it as soon as I started getting boobs." And I never saw her again. Realizing I was probably about the same age as her dad I just couldn't.
All of us lead secret lives. Some are more heavily invested than others. I've been in the game for coming up on 30 years now and rarely feel much guilt, but that one really got to me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it's not always easy.
HS.[/QUOTE]I had read a post in a different thread which triggered me, so I posted my tangential response to this other post. Then I get over to this thread and WHOA! It's all about what I just posted. Well, without reposting, let me say, I'm sorry if some of these women feel trapped by what they're doing. I'm particularly sorry for women who have to gobble goo and suck greasy dicks when they really hate it. And although I'm sorry for them, I am eternally grateful for the ones that do it.
I have written about the slore I've been "friends" with for years. She started wholing while still in high school. Other illegal activity got her a felony conviction. She has since become a medical professional. When applying for the license, she would have been turned down without some extraordinary efforts on my part, including letters to the governor and her review board. She is now an independent contractor, making really good money legitimately as well as being a landlord. Here's the surprise: She calls me up the other day telling me she wants to escort again. Oh, BTW, she was also a kid when her cousin first did her.
So, in short, I don't have much sympathy for anyone wanting to suck, fuck, take it in the ass or do whatever you sick bastards can cook up. I'm am, however, grateful that they're there when Time, money, and inclination form a perfect storm of need and desire in me.
Coochie (Heartless bastard) Eater.
God Bless You All.
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Sympathy
[QUOTE=CoochieEater;5559306]I had read a post in a different thread which triggered me, so I posted my tangential response to this other post. Then I get over to this thread and WHOA! It's all about what I just posted. Well, without reposting, let me say, I'm sorry if some of these women feel trapped by what they're doing. I'm particularly sorry for women who have to gobble goo and suck greasy dicks when they really hate it. And although I'm sorry for them, I am eternally grateful for the ones that do it.
I have written about the slore I've been "friends" with for years. She started wholing while still in high school. Other illegal activity got her a felony conviction. She has since become a medical professional. When applying for the license, she would have been turned down without some extraordinary efforts on my part, including letters to the governor and her review board. She is now an independent contractor, making really good money legitimately as well as being a landlord. Here's the surprise: She calls me up the other day telling me she wants to escort again. Oh, BTW, she was also a kid when her cousin first did her.
So, in short, I don't have much sympathy for anyone wanting to suck, fuck, take it in the ass or do whatever you sick bastards can cook up. I'm am, however, grateful that they're there when Time, money, and inclination form a perfect storm of need and desire in me.
Coochie (Heartless bastard) Eater.
God Bless You All.[/QUOTE]After almost 30 years of doing this, I'm with ya, it takes a LOT to generate an ounce of sympathy from me, but for whatever reason that one just tripped me out.
A few years ago I got way way way to involved with a SW and actually helped her get clean after investing to much time and money. She was clean for a year and relapsed. Shrugs OK, I tried my best. This is the life you want to lead, ok, come on over here and get ready because I'm going to fuck your mouth, your pussy, your ass, your left nostril, your right ear and finish in your armpit. No I'm not taking you to score, giving you any extra or hanging out after to chit-chat. Now she's got a pimp managing her and was called out in a particularly nasty rip-off report within the last few months. Someday they're going to rip off the wrong person.
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Armpit
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;5559469]After almost 30 years of doing this, I'm with ya, it takes a LOT to generate an ounce of sympathy from me, but for whatever reason that one just tripped me out.
A few years ago I got way way way to involved with a SW and actually helped her get clean after investing to much time and money. She was clean for a year and relapsed. Shrugs OK, I tried my best. This is the life you want to lead, ok, come on over here and get ready because I'm going to fuck your mouth, your pussy, your ass, your left nostril, your right ear and finish in your armpit. No I'm not taking you to score, giving you any extra or hanging out after to chit-chat. Now she's got a pimp managing her and was called out in a particularly nasty rip-off report within the last few months. Someday they're going to rip off the wrong person.[/QUOTE]Finish in her armpit? Hmm. Interesting. That just made the bucket list. -Viking (needs to see Dr. Phil. And finish in his armpit) Pride.
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Drug rehab
Just heard about a girl I know getting off the street, going back to her family and going for rehab treatment. Her family is saying that the program is going to cost $5 K for 30 days! The girl was indigent and I was told that she has "state insurance". Rehab not covered?
Guys here have talked about girls they know getting cleaned up. How did they do it?
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Depends
[QUOTE=DieselMike;5562054]Just heard about a girl I know getting off the street, going back to her family and going for rehab treatment. Her family is saying that the program is going to cost $5 K for 30 days! The girl was indigent and I was told that she has "state insurance". Rehab not covered?
Guys here have talked about girls they know getting cleaned up. How did they do it?[/QUOTE]It depends on the facility for starters. Not all of them take State Insurance. Then they have to be on the right State Plan. I was helping a SW get into rehab, had her all convinced, she was ready, and then Rogers told her she had the wrong State Plan. We called to have it switched which they did immediately with no hassles. But it doesn't take effect until the first of the next month. This was on like the 8th. She had to wait 3 weeks for it to take effect. And of course I'm that amount of time it was like starting over getting her to commit to going.
Two points of interest.
She finally went, got clean, was clean for a year, had a decent job, a real boyfriend. Then she and the boyfriend broke up and she relapsed right into the life. She's still out there and was identified in a particularly heinous rip-off report.
If her parents are doing private pay, $5000 a month is dirt cheap. I do believe Rogers is more like $20,000 a month.
HS.
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Forced rehab
[QUOTE=DieselMike;5562054]Just heard about a girl I know getting off the street, going back to her family and going for rehab treatment. Her family is saying that the program is going to cost $5 K for 30 days! The girl was indigent and I was told that she has "state insurance". Rehab not covered?
Guys here have talked about girls they know getting cleaned up. How did they do it?[/QUOTE]Jail is no guarantee of getting clean either unless the individual has the desire to take advantage of the situation. I'm aware of several women who were guests of Racine County who complained that the jail has drug rehab programs for men but nothing for women. I believe the only program available for them is a prayer meeting type of thing. Your tax dollars at work.
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Rinse and repeat
[QUOTE=Wenceslas;5562346]Jail is no guarantee of getting clean either unless the individual has the desire to take advantage of the situation. I'm aware of several women who were guests of Racine County who complained that the jail has drug rehab programs for men but nothing for women. I believe the only program available for them is a prayer meeting type of thing. Your tax dollars at work.[/QUOTE]Miraculous that any of them do get clean.
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Treatment funding
It depends on the facility for starters. Not all of them take State Insurance. Then they have to be on the right State Plan. I was helping a SW get into rehab, had her all convinced, she was ready, and then Rogers told her she had the wrong State Plan. We called to have it switched which they did immediately with no hassles. But it doesn't take effect until the first of the next month. This was on like the 8th. She had to wait 3 weeks for it to take effect. And of course I'm that amount of time it was like starting over getting her to commit to going.
State insurance doesn't have funded inpatient rehabilitation. I've been through it. I was on heroin for 14/15 years! (Don't know how I'm alive). I went to prison and jail, it did absolutely nothing to remedy my addiction. In fact, it exacerbated it. I didn't start this gig until I was well out of prison and ass deep in my addiction again in 2017. Tabitha taught me (she's not an addict actually). I now have 13 months clean from opiates and their derivatives, but trust me, everyday is a struggle. It's an uphill battle, but it's possible with medication assisted treatment and AODA treatment.
Two points of interest.
She finally went, got clean, was clean for a year, had a decent job, a real boyfriend. Then she and the boyfriend broke up and she relapsed right into the life. She's still out there and was identified in a particularly heinous rip-off report.
If her parents are doing private pay, $5000 a month is dirt cheap. I do believe Rogers is more like $20,000.
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It can be done
[QUOTE=DieselMike;5562054]Just heard about a girl I know getting off the street, going back to her family and going for rehab treatment. Her family is saying that the program is going to cost $5 K for 30 days! The girl was indigent and I was told that she has "state insurance". Rehab not covered?
Guys here have talked about girls they know getting cleaned up. How did they do it?[/QUOTE]OO Jess has told me that she is so glad the judge put her away for as long as he did allowing her to beat the heebe geebies totally. She struggled through rehab the hard way while being incarcerated and says she will never forget the pain and agony that she went through. Now drug free, she drinks all day & night.
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[QUOTE=JimHoll;5562568]OO Jess has told me that she is so glad the judge put her away for as long as he did allowing her to beat the heebe geebies totally. She struggled through rehab the hard way while being incarcerated and says she will never forget the pain and agony that she went through. Now drug free, she drinks all day & night.[/QUOTE]A woman who's son was an alcoholic told me that the best an addiction-prone person can do is to replace one addiction with another. Some do it with healthy things or religion. Others; not so much. Good to hear that Jess is alive and sorta OK though.
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[QUOTE=DunhamAll;5557954]Recently seen one of the areas better providers, she has been around for awhile. She is always hot and knows what she is doing. Had a great session and as I'm making small talk about what my afternoon was going to be like she said to me "well at least you get to go back to a normal life and no one knows that you pay for sex" I was taken back as she started to say I wish I could do what your complaining about. She got emotional saying she has been in the business for years and has only had 1 real boyfriend who eventually cheated. She said she is always lonely and can't find a real job due to her being online advertising. I felt really bad for her. Then I thought is my life really that normal that I enable a woman to stay in this industry? Really made me question myself. Some of these girls are truly stuck in this game forever. I hope she eventually finds a way out and someone who loves her. She deserves that before its to late. I also realized my life is not normal and I hold many secrets. I'm not the guy many think I am and really don't deserve the life I have. I hope I can change someday before its to late for me. Sorry to be a buzzkill but I'm sure I'm not the only monger who needs to get things off their chest.[/QUOTE]OMG that's awful who is she?