Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=Zeotch2;7350205]It varies, but usually two to three. No more.[/QUOTE]These past few weeks, the ones I hit up all said 5.

[QUOTE=Tomyoming7777;7349541]What are you offering for ppm these days? Seems like rates have gone up lately. I haven't been that active for a while, just checking in here and there to see if I liked someone. But now that I've started talking to a few, I'm kinda surprised by the amounts I've seen. Or maybe it's just the ones I happened to message.[/QUOTE]I'Ve had it range from 300-600. I would say average is 500. Now that seems expensive but I always do a meet and greet over a drink or two no expectations. I don't pay and I don't expect anything sexual. Half hour to an hour tops. I also set the expectations before the meet and great that our arrangement is not just a bang and leave deal. I expect an evening out of it. Minimum 3 hours but if it goes longer its just because we are having fun. Most go longer because we fuck, habe some drinks, fuck again, maybe do dinner or order food, and fuck at least one more time. I usually fuck at least 3 times sometimes more. So while 500/600 sounds like a lot it's 200/ hour with a girl that is more attractive than the women in that category. Most are in there mid 20's and sexy as fuck. When doing regular mongering 200/ hour is usually someone that is a user and high volume. I may get ripped for this but I don't think it's a bad trade off.

[QUOTE=MagicMan1123;7351187]I'Ve had it range from 300-600. I would say average is 500. Now that seems expensive but I always do a meet and greet over a drink or two no expectations. I don't pay and I don't expect anything sexual. Half hour to an hour tops. I also set the expectations before the meet and great that our arrangement is not just a bang and leave deal. I expect an evening out of it. Minimum 3 hours but if it goes longer its just because we are having fun. Most go longer because we fuck, habe some drinks, fuck again, maybe do dinner or order food, and fuck at least one more time. I usually fuck at least 3 times sometimes more. So while 500/600 sounds like a lot it's 200/ hour with a girl that is more attractive than the women in that category. Most are in there mid 20's and sexy as fuck. When doing regular mongering 200/ hour is usually someone that is a user and high volume. I may get ripped for this but I don't think it's a bad trade off.[/QUOTE]Seems very reasonable to me. What is your favorite site? I found a new site or maybe it found me. LOL. [URL]www.sugarlifenow.com[/URL] have not had much luck making any contact. New to the SB / SD scene but I am wanting to try it out. Let me know and thanks for this post.

[QUOTE=ABigBull71;7351753]Seems very reasonable to me. What is your favorite site? I found a new site or maybe it found me. LOL. [URL]www.sugarlifenow.com[/URL] have not had much luck making any contact. New to the SB / SD scene but I am wanting to try it out. Let me know and thanks for this post.[/QUOTE]Seeking has been my go to. I usually google for the biggest discount code I can find and do the 3 month trial. During that three months I gather as many numbers as I can and do as many meet and greets as I can. I usually get 10 ish good ones during that time and cycle through them over the next 6-9 months. Then repeat. Some I see only once or twice others I have seen frequently. I just happen to be in a position where I can afford to do that. When I get bored with them I tell them I have found someone that I am trying to date but will keep there number if that falls through. That way if I want to come back and hit it again 3 months later I can.

[QUOTE=MagicMan1123;7352075]Seeking has been my go to. I usually google for the biggest discount code I can find and do the 3 month trial. During that three months I gather as many numbers as I can and do as many meet and greets as I can. I usually get 10 ish good ones during that time and cycle through them over the next 6-9 months. Then repeat. Some I see only once or twice others I have seen frequently. I just happen to be in a position where I can afford to do that. When I get bored with them I tell them I have found someone that I am trying to date but will keep there number if that falls through. That way if I want to come back and hit it again 3 months later I can.[/QUOTE]Didn't they do away with the discount codes with their latest increase in prices? I used to use a code to get 33% off when I'd sign back up for a month.

[QUOTE=Zeotch2;7352166]Didn't they do away with the discount codes with their latest increase in prices? I used to use a code to get 33% off when I'd sign back up for a month.[/QUOTE]Its 20% now and it only pops up for you if you're using a browser, after a few days it stops showing up so my assumption is that they track the IP.

It went away if I was on my home network but popped up when I was using my phone with the web page on cell or when I was traveling.

It never did show in the app.

[QUOTE=MagicMan1123;7352075]Seeking has been my go to. I usually google for the biggest discount code I can find and do the 3 month trial. During that three months I gather as many numbers as I can and do as many meet and greets as I can. I usually get 10 ish good ones during that time and cycle through them over the next 6-9 months. Then repeat. Some I see only once or twice others I have seen frequently. I just happen to be in a position where I can afford to do that. When I get bored with them I tell them I have found someone that I am trying to date but will keep there number if that falls through. That way if I want to come back and hit it again 3 months later I can.[/QUOTE]I am also in a strong financial position, but do want to waste money nor get taken advantage of. I know some of these girls / woman will be much more experienced at this than I am and have an upper hand in negotiating from that experience but also because my small brain will get involved and reason will leave. Which I do not want to happen. LOL. I see secretbenefits / SA /[URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL]/ sugarlifenow etc. I just reactivated my secretbenefit profile and had a lot of credits still there I did not use.

I guess I could use some advice on how to you make the move from messaging to meeting the first time. Assume the first meeting for most of them will be checking compatibility and setting terms and ground rules. Or am I off here. Again. I apologize. But am new to this. Am just a bit tired of the escort route and the AMP's. Looks like the cost is about the same as the escort route but the girls I am seeing are a bit more attractive. I don't know. Maybe I am off in my thinking. Set me straight. Or give me some direction. Anything will help and I appreciate it.

Found this website and do not see it talked about much here. The girls in our area seem TGTBT. Which normally means they are. Google Image search does not show anything.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Chelsea/[/URL]

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Dream/[/URL]

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;7352458]Its 20% now and it only pops up for you if you're using a browser, after a few days it stops showing up so my assumption is that they track the IP.

It went away if I was on my home network but popped up when I was using my phone with the web page on cell or when I was traveling.

It never did show in the app.[/QUOTE]That's what I thought. I have seen 25% when I click directly on the messages, but you're correct, usually 20%.

[QUOTE=ABigBull71;7352757]I am also in a strong financial position, but do want to waste money nor get taken advantage of. I know some of these girls / woman will be much more experienced at this than I am and have an upper hand in negotiating from that experience but also because my small brain will get involved and reason will leave. Which I do not want to happen. LOL. I see secretbenefits / SA /[URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL]/ sugarlifenow etc. I just reactivated my secretbenefit profile and had a lot of credits still there I did not use.

I guess I could use some advice on how to you make the move from messaging to meeting the first time. Assume the first meeting for most of them will be checking compatibility and setting terms and ground rules. Or am I off here. Again. I apologize. But am new to this. Am just a bit tired of the escort route and the AMP's. Looks like the cost is about the same as the escort route but the girls I am seeing are a bit more attractive. I don't know. Maybe I am off in my thinking. Set me straight. Or give me some direction. Anything will help and I appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I typically message them right out of the gate with a "what's your perfect arrangement look like?" And go from there. Once they reply with whatever it is I always say I am looking for something consistent whether I am or not. Then I explain that I always do a no expectations, on either side, meet and greet before any paid dates. Once they seem cool I exchange contact info, usually telegram or an internet phone number, and start talking about ppm / allowance expectations. I make sure to let them know what I expect as well. 3+ hours / rounds and some good company in between, maybe dinner or an event if I am feeling them. Making sure not to be too heavy on the "I'm going to fuck you silly as much as I can" part as that will scare them away. I'm clear but not too direct. They know what you are looking for so don't come off creepy with the sexual talk before the first date while still letting them know you expect to fuck multiple times per date. If they want an allowance I'll let them know that it comes months down the road once I know they won't take the money and run and redirect back to a PPM. Hope that helps. DM me if you want to discuss more.

Body type filter and listed as an attribute is gone. It amazes me how some SB's know just the right camera angle to game the eyes. LOL.

Any mention of PPM or numbers results in an alert box. Yea. No sh*t Sherlock. We are on the site to give these pseudo escorts money. Now my goal is to have some basic alignment ent and get them to text. Requests for signal, WhatsApp, telegram, Snapchat and only fans is politely declined.

Safe hunting fellow mongers.

Ob.

[QUOTE=Observant;7355604]Body type filter and listed as an attribute is gone. It amazes me how some SB's know just the right camera angle to game the eyes. LOL.

Any mention of PPM or numbers results in an alert box. Yea. No sh*t Sherlock. We are on the site to give these pseudo escorts money. Now my goal is to have some basic alignment ent and get them to text. Requests for signal, WhatsApp, telegram, Snapchat and only fans is politely declined.

Safe hunting fellow mongers.

Ob.[/QUOTE]Beware the profiles that have no full body shots.

So. I am dipping my toe in the Bowl for the first time and have just grown tired of AMP's and Pro's. I really had no idea where to start as you can see from my past few posts. But huge shoutout to an admin here (not sure he wants to be names) who sent me a link of archived posts that was a treasure trove of information and help.

After reading about 50-75 posts I adjusted my approach and followed HollywoodGuys 4 - 5 part message system and sent about 30-40 messages to POT's.modifying each one a little to show I read their bio and am not just a bot on a mass email. I received back about 20 messages and most of them granting access to private photos. From there I sent message 2 asking to take the conversation to email and off the site. Out of the 20 about 5 have done that so far. 3 have not replied back after that message which laid out what I am willing to give in support per meeting. But 2 have.

The first one is a single mom of 1, 25 year old AA girl who said " seems fine. I just want someone that will be consistent and help me when I need it with reasonable items. And I am lonely and looking for some fun". I offered her a M&G in public or o private. She said public. I said no problem. And if you feel comfortable we can find a place for intimacy where we can be alone. She said it sounds good. I have my M&G with her Tuesday afternoon. Looking at her pictures I would say she is 7/7/?

The second is also a single mom 33 why. O white woman, dirty blonde hair, probably an 8/8/ Offered her the same public M&G first and she said "I am fine meeting you anywhere private to start. I am just looking for one SD to have an ongoing NSA relationship and share some great experiences. I have no demands of money. Anything you give me I am sure will be fair and I will show you my appreciation". We are meeting next Thursday. Since that agreement. We have begun texting. I am using GV. And the text have turned fairly sexual at times. She sent me a shot of her laying in bed. And this looks to be a lot of fun with this one.

Anyway. That is where I am as of now. I will report back on how these go. It seems to be that most of the girls on here between 18-23 have major GPS. And are just unrealistic. I did have. A. smoke show of a POT send me a full nude and said she would not meet for less than $$ I told her if she can get that. Don't let him go. It is too much for me and I will find someone else. She had a. Good comeback and said."I am sure you can find someone. You are a good looking man. But will she be as hot as me? I laughed at loud as she had a point. But still it's not worth that. As we all know. We are not paying them for the sex. She are paying them to leave and not be a psycho after the meeting.

Thanks again too all of those who have given their advice. The Bowl seems warm. Come on in. LOL.

[QUOTE=ABigBull71;7359986]So. I am dipping my toe in the Bowl for the first time and have just grown tired of AMP's and Pro's. I really had no idea where to start as you can see from my past few posts. But huge shoutout to an admin here (not sure he wants to be names) who sent me a link of archived posts that was a treasure trove of information and help.

After reading about 50-75 posts I adjusted my approach and followed HollywoodGuys 4 - 5 part message system and sent about 30-40 messages to POT's.modifying each one a little to show I read their bio and am not just a bot on a mass email. I received back about 20 messages and most of them granting access to private photos. From there I sent message 2 asking to take the conversation to email and off the site. Out of the 20 about 5 have done that so far. 3 have not replied back after that message which laid out what I am willing to give in support per meeting. But 2 have.

The first one is a single mom of 1, 25 year old AA girl who said " seems fine. I just want someone that will be consistent and help me when I need it with reasonable items. And I am lonely and looking for some fun". I offered her a M&G in public or o private. She said public. I said no problem. And if you feel comfortable we can find a place for intimacy where we can be alone. She said it sounds good. I have my M&G with her Tuesday afternoon. Looking at her pictures I would say she is 7/7/?

The second is also a single mom 33 why. O white woman, dirty blonde hair, probably an 8/8/ Offered her the same public M&G first and she said "I am fine meeting you anywhere private to start. I am just looking for one SD to have an ongoing NSA relationship and share some great experiences. I have no demands of money. Anything you give me I am sure will be fair and I will show you my appreciation". We are meeting next Thursday. Since that agreement. We have begun texting. I am using GV. And the text have turned fairly sexual at times. She sent me a shot of her laying in bed. And this looks to be a lot of fun with this one.

Anyway. That is where I am as of now. I will report back on how these go. It seems to be that most of the girls on here between 18-23 have major GPS. And are just unrealistic. I did have. A. smoke show of a POT send me a full nude and said she would not meet for less than $$ I told her if she can get that. Don't let him go. It is too much for me and I will find someone else. She had a. Good comeback and said."I am sure you can find someone. You are a good looking man. But will she be as hot as me? I laughed at loud as she had a point. But still it's not worth that. As we all know. We are not paying them for the sex. She are paying them to leave and not be a psycho after the meeting.

Thanks again too all of those who have given their advice. The Bowl seems warm. Come on in. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have found there is no need to do all of this. The girls that will put out are pretty obvious. Be direct without being crass and they will usually tell you a price. Don't counter but rather talk about things you enjoy during sex and what she likes. Keep it about sex. Even if the price is steep don't counter right away! They will come down on their own eventually. I have a sugarbaby I'm fuckin for $200 and she quoted me $600 in the beginning.

[QUOTE=MambaForevaa;7360008]I have found there is no need to do all of this. The girls that will put out are pretty obvious. Be direct without being crass and they will usually tell you a price. Don't counter but rather talk about things you enjoy during sex and what she likes. Keep it about sex. Even if the price is steep don't counter right away! They will come down on their own eventually. I have a sugarbaby I'm fuckin for $200 and she quoted me $600 in the beginning.[/QUOTE]Well I am glad you have found your way. I don't feel like I have that kind of game and I would disagree with you that they all will come down. So this way is not to bad so far. If they all did come down eventually, then we would not have GPS!

That is why they have been saying "More than one way to skin a cat" for over 100 years! Good luck to all of you and stay safe!