Massage Parlor Reports

Not sure what happened either. As of the earlier part of this past week A---- was working. Mid to early 30s, for looks I would say 8 with a happy ending but I had to do a lot of talking to achieve. I believe she was a little leery of me. Week before last A---- was also there.


[QUOTE=Xsham]The place is real and massage is offered. The girl in question (the 9+ on the LARS scale one) no longer provides massage and hasn't in some time. The new, regular, girl works only Wednesday and was described to me as "old." When I asked how old, the woman giggled and said "pretty old." Maybe it was some joke I didn't get, but I think she was serious. You can take one for the team if you want, but I don't think your experience is likely to be good. They [i]can[/i] scramble another woman to do massages on off days (if you say you have been there before) but I didn't want to wait around for a glorified hair stylist in a white coat to slap at my spine. I did not stay to see who would arrive to do the massage because, as I mentioned, I was told the woman was older and was not a therapist, but a stylist who could do a massage for me. Therefore, I don't know if the therapists are racially Asian or otherwise (didn't ask, didn't see, didn't care but it's probable they are Asian). I did not see the massage room or quality of that room (i.e. cleanliness, size, privacy).

Things change, that's life.[/QUOTE]

Hello guys,

I am new in the forums.

I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.

The phone is out of service lately.

Thx

[QUOTE=Phaik Naim]This is news to me. Bad news. And I have never seen another provider there, so I can't confirm or correct what was said about the age of the alternate provider. Damn. I apologize and am glad you didn't TOFTT given the response you got. I think I know who gave it to you too, I'm going to have to do some recon and figure out WTF happened.[/QUOTE]Phaik,

A word of advice. Remember, true UTR info is valuable. You already demostrated the ability to distinguish between good, general, postable info (about places like sunstar, kims, etc.), and this UTR thing that you don't want "to mess up. " Unfortunately it might now be messed up. Next time you have juicy UTR info. Don't post it for the world to see even if you didn't name names and places. Because guys here can figure it out. Instead, use it to gain info from very senior, trusted members through PMs. You offer something new. Some of them will help you in return (some will ignore you thinking your new due to few posts. But hey. That's their loss).

Posting it just brings all kind of attention to something that was just a UTR situation. Looks like this girl just got new attention from at least 2 complete strangers given the two posts here. And either she's being more selective or the management noticed and let her go. Or something along those lines.

I've been on this site for 3 years. Never posted once under this name in this city since all the info you need for general places is on the forum. Plus. The newbies just seem to want to have a sure thing when in reality, the true art and fun of the hobby is to see what you can get when you don't know what's going to happen. I can say from personal experience that you can get a lot more from places that appear to be just rub-and-tug or even legit places. But you have to work at it, be a semi regular, be nice, etc. It's worth it in the end since you're with ladies that won't fuck around with just anyone and that appriciate your visits. Rather than the DC scene where it's "now serving #842. "

And since I'm breaking my silence on this board, I have to thank all who posted over the past 3 years. Esp. Seniors. You have my gratitude. Sorry I don't post. I have no desire to be a "senior member" and I don't ask for anything in return. I have to say though that I'm shocked so many folks get around even more than I do. For awhile, a couple of years ago, I'd go to some really obscure places only to find a note hanging on the girl's clit saying "LoveLOS or Lex (enter any senior's name) waz here. " I thought I was cutting-edge until I found these forums.

You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?


[QUOTE=Secret Rom]Hello guys,

I am new in the forums.

I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.

The phone is out of service lately.

Thx[/QUOTE]

This place is in a professional building across the street from the fire station.
Masseus was in her mid 50s.She gave a great massage but no extras.Covered my erogenous zones with a towel lol Would not repeat unless I want a great massage.

I am asking about Linda 7 corners!

[QUOTE=Any Mouse]You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?[/QUOTE]

Figured I should post an update with regard Linda, since there seems to be some interest in her whereabouts nowadays.

Here's what I have, basically: She's been in and out of the area lately (to Seattle, among other places, I believe). She may be getting things ready for Spring, when monger hormones blossom anew, and preparing to open one or two new CCs in the DC Metro area. I know this was one thought she had.

However, I also ran into her at (of all places) an area Post Office, and she was mailing a couple large packages to Shanghai. (I recognized her voice when she answered her cell phone. She was two places behind me in the line! ) I helped her get the right customs labels for her packages. After I mailed my letters, I waited for her and gave her a lift back to her apartment. Unfortunately, I neglected to get her cell phone number. The old phone is non-working, so I'm hoping she'll call my monger phone. If not, I'm gonna miss that gal. She wasn't "officially" working any more, but even at 41 she can still work it.

I'll post any updates/info when (or IF) I get any.

RR

[QUOTE=Any Mouse]You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Secret Rom]Hello guys,
I am new in the forums.
I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.
The phone is out of service lately.
Thx[/QUOTE]

Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.

I wouldn't miss this one! :p

MnV

[QUOTE=Hondo17]I had a dream that I was 112 years old in Vienna, but Mimi made me feel so much younger!

Too bad it was an only dream![/QUOTE]Went back today. Mimi is delightful and is in no rush. Mamasan says business is very slow so everyone should try it before it is gone.

[QUOTE=MoonView]Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.

I wouldn't miss this one! :p

MnV[/QUOTE]

I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?

Bradley1,

I stand by my report and frankly am surprised you even ventured into a NOVA CC based on all your previous negative CC posts. These girls are rotated on a fairly frequent basis in and out of the state, for you to never find one satisfactory sounds a bit strange to me.

In any event and as recommended in the past I would suggest you save your cash and look elsewhere.

Regards,
MnV


[QUOTE=Bradley1]I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?[/QUOTE]

[INDENT][QUOTE=Bradley1]I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?[/QUOTE][/INDENT]
Well, a man's opinions and preferences are hard things to argue with, and beauty (as they say) is in the eye of the beholder. Your rating standards must be radically different from the plain ol' rubes and "CC frequenters" (interesting term) that visit the TCCC and FCCC. Barring a photo, which most if not all of the CC gals would avoid letting us take, there's really no way for any of us to compare our rating standards for the CC ladies.

Since you've now had two bad or substandard experiences there, you might want to refraining from any more visits. When (or IF) Linda gets back in town for good and decides whether to open another CC in the area, she's pretty likely to have some newer, younger ladies. But, again, even those might not meet your standards. I'm not trying to fault your standards nor gainsay your disappointment with the CCs; I'm only saying that they're not likely to ever meet your preferences, based on what you've posted and what others (the "CC Frequenters") have found there.

DC Eros has Asian ladies among its DC/MD/NoVa stables, but they tend to be rather pricey for what is essentially the same service. Perhaps trying that venue (and maybe even giving a report on your findings) will open up new horizons for your pursuit of the ideal K-girl. Otherwise, I'm at a loss as to what to say or recommend, Brad. The only other places Yours Truly knows about are AMPs and CCs that are dirty, have old providers, and give lousy service. And we've already been down that road.
[INDENT][QUOTE=MoonView]Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.

I wouldn't miss this one! :p

MnV[/QUOTE][/INDENT]
Moon, my man, I will accept your recco as a challenge, of sorts. My guess, knowing your standards are about on a par with mine (I hope ;) ), is that Joni will be an interesting lady with whom to make an acquaintance. It sounds as though Linda is at least keeping her options open here, with respect to the other existing CCs. At least she's rotating in some new faces, although it could be Linda's "supervisors" who've sent some more talent down from NY to cover during this period of flux and uncertainty. I hope to have some intel soon, which I can share with you to reciprocate. Props, amigo.

RR

[QUOTE=MoonView]Bradley1,

I stand by my report and frankly am surprised you even ventured into a NOVA CC based on all your previous negative CC posts. These girls are rotated on a fairly frequent basis in and out of the state, for you to never find one satisfactory sounds a bit strange to me.

In any event and as recommended in the past I would suggest you save your cash and look elsewhere.

Regards,
MnV[/QUOTE]

Like I said I was once again fooled by your report and this time a review on The Erotic Review. I don't think it's strange that I rarely find someone satisfactory at the CC when it's consistently bad. The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers. What I find stranger is that one of the low end establishments garners so many positive reports on this board despite DC AMPs and other high quality AAMPs being in the direct vicinity. This is why I asked if you have been to DD or Sky as a basis of comparison.

The last non CC spa I went to was in DC it was Orange and I had a nice time, for visits before that you can read through my posts. I have read through yours.

Funny, you seem to be the only one "fooled" by my posts. I still believe something is not right about you or your postings. Others can decide for themselves.

MnV



[QUOTE=Bradley1]Like I said I was once again fooled by your report and this time a review on The Erotic Review. I don't think it's strange that I rarely find someone satisfactory at the CC when it's consistently bad. The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers. What I find stranger is that one of the low end establishments garners so many positive reports on this board despite DC AMPs and other high quality AAMPs being in the direct vicinity. This is why I asked if you have been to DD or Sky as a basis of comparison.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman][INDENT][/INDENT]
Well, a man's opinions and preferences are hard things to argue with, and beauty (as they say) is in the eye of the beholder. Your rating standards must be radically different from the plain ol' rubes and "CC frequenters" (interesting term) that visit the TCCC and FCCC. Barring a photo, which most if not all of the CC gals would avoid letting us take, there's really no way for any of us to compare our rating standards for the CC ladies.
[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report?

And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks.

[QUOTE=Bradley1]Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report?

And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks. [/QUOTE]You know, I thought my standards where high, but I think yours are a bit out-of-line when it comes to the TCCCs. Think about the price of the TCCC. Do you think you'll find Gingers or Mary-Anns there? The price practically guarantees no Gingers.

Personally, I think Joy is cute. In a Mary-Anne sort of way. I was very happy with her. And she provides service better than most of the expensive ones. Mongers with an Asian thing would most likely think she's cute too.

[QUOTE=Bradley1]The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers.[/QUOTE]And we know that AMP girls would never lie about how many fat greasy guys had been pawing their wares before you came in. I myself have the remarkable distinction of having been the provider's the first customer of the day each and every time I've been to an AMP.

What are the odds?

[QUOTE=Bradley1]And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks.[/QUOTE]

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As found today over in Escort Section.


[QUOTE=Jack Webb]Just the facts:

- Can confirm the details in her one review on T**.

- Great attitude, great kisser, there to please you and enjoys herself.

- Awesome clit and great muscle control.

- Tip her - her rate is far too low - better value than your standard AMP.

- YMMV on a second pop given the agency she's with, but my mileage was great.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Jack Webb]Since I've been PMed w/ questions:

- Asian Joy. CC. She's Japanese and has Geisha qualities and attitude.

- She's won't be here long.[/QUOTE]


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Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D
MnV

[QUOTE=MoonView]
Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D
MnV[/QUOTE]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or a regular member like me or someone with only two posts like Jack.

I'm glad you've come to realize that in our short banter session.


[QUOTE=Bradley1]Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or a regular member like me or someone with only two posts like Jack.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jack Webb]Just the facts:
- Asian Joy
- CC
- She's Japanese and has Geisha qualities and attitude.
- She's won't be here long.
- Can confirm the details in her one review on T**.
- Great attitude, great kisser, there to please you and enjoys herself.
- Awesome clit and great muscle control.
- Tip her. Her rate is far too low. Better value than your standard AMP.
- YMMV on a second pop given the agency she's with, but my mileage was great.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MoonView]Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D MnV[/QUOTE]All that's missing is that catchy theme music. Just like ol' Jack Webb, to give "just the facts." (Notice, he provided his follow-up report on "Friday." Somehow, I suspect Joni will be his Girl Friday, at least for the next 2 weeks.)

[QUOTE=Bradley1]Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report? [/QUOTE]No one's saying you can't or shouldn't post negative reports about the CCs, Brad. In fact, one or two others have also posted reviews of their disappointment with them. But those reports are for [u]isolated[/u] instances; yours seem to indicate [u]universal[/u] disappointment, which goes against the experiences of many others on this board. So, again, it just seems to be a difference in tastes, nothing more and nothing less.

We're all men here (at least, most of us here are. There are some wimps that are just passing thru, passing gas, or get tossed into harbors or sandboxes), so we're all pretty secure in what we like and don't like. Most of the guys here are the same group who recall the level of service at area AMPs back in the Golden Days, so they're no strangers to the field. Yet, they seem largely satisfied with the service they are getting at the CCs.

You mentioned that the two gals you saw at the TCCC had pale skin or a "squashed face. " I haven't seen them (...yet), so I'll take your word. But, frankly, when Little Roman is discussing policy or reviewing the particulars of some legislation, he isn't overly concerned about the constituent's complexion or facial bone stucture. (He [u]is[/u], however, very much concerned about his own "bone structure." :D ) Besides, not every customer whom the CC gals see each day is a "Golden Adonis." So, if a gal happens to have a squashed face, well, I'm sure she has other redeeming qualities to make up for it.

The pushback you're feeling over your reports on the CCs is due to the fact that we're seeing a different reality than what you are finding. That being the case, you now know how to make your decisions based on our reports, and we know how to interpret yours. As long as we're all satisfied in the end, what's to sweat about it?

I truly wish you luck in finding what you're looking for, but I think you'll have a tough time locating it for a reasonable price. I learned long ago the old rule: [b]When all else fails, lower your standards. [/b] Besides, I personally prefer an older provider who gives lousy service in a dirty location. There's just something about that combination that adds to the whole sleazy ambience of the experience.

In the mean time, during my discussions with the constituents and lobbyists, I'll be keeping an eye out for Steve Canyon's "Dragon Lady." If she happens to be available, I'll give you a heads-up. Fair enough?

RR

[QUOTE=Bradley1]Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or [b]a regular member like me[/b] or someone with only two posts like Jack.[/QUOTE]No need to have an inferiority complex, Brad. Yuze iz one a da Seniors now, which means your reports are henceforth unimpeachable...just like ours, right?

After reading all, I've tried number I have and it worked. She answered the phone, we talked little bit, seems to be ok. For people I gave this number to, if it doesn't work the first time try again. It may say something like "the person you're tying to reach is not available try again later", or "this person has a mail box which is not set up yet". Just wait 20-30 min and try again. I'll go back in next couple of weeks, just waiting for girls to change. The last one few weeks ago wasn't really my cup of tea. Chubby. Will let you know.

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]Figured I should post an update with regard Linda, since there seems to be some interest in her whereabouts nowadays.

Here's what I have, basically: She's been in and out of the area lately (to Seattle, among other places, I believe). She may be getting things ready for Spring, when monger hormones blossom anew, and preparing to open one or two new CCs in the DC Metro area. I know this was one thought she had.

However, I also ran into her at (of all places) an area Post Office, and she was mailing a couple large packages to Shanghai. (I recognized her voice when she answered her cell phone. She was two places behind me in the line! ) I helped her get the right customs labels for her packages. After I mailed my letters, I waited for her and gave her a lift back to her apartment. Unfortunately, I neglected to get her cell phone number. The old phone is non-working, so I'm hoping she'll call my monger phone. If not, I'm gonna miss that gal. She wasn't "officially" working any more, but even at 41 she can still work it.

I'll post any updates/info when (or IF) I get any.

RR[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]No need to have an inferiority complex, Brad. Yuze iz one a da Seniors now, which means your reports are henceforth unimpeachable...just like ours, right?[/QUOTE]


Ok fine, someone show Brad the secret Sen. handshake and let's be done with it, and yes it does involve a beautiful CC girl! ;)

MnV

Moon View, Thanks for the lead on Joye (that's the way she spelled it for me). She was everything you said and more. She may not have been up to Bradley standards, but she exceeded mine. She was very anxious to please and very receptive. Some of the ladies that Bradley refers to are beautiful women and occasionally you get one that goes above and beyond, but they are too mechanical for me. That said, I would add I have never been disappointed with any of my experiences with any of the ladies at TCCC or the other CC's. Although they may not be a perfect 10, they have all provided the services that I paid for and you can't beat the price IMHO. So, again, thanks for the lead and I hope to visit our little japanese geisha again before she departs.

[QUOTE=Just Ken]Moon View, Thanks for the lead on Joye (that's the way she spelled it for me). She was everything you said and more. She may not have been up to Bradley standards, but she exceeded mine. She was very anxious to please and very receptive. Some of the ladies that Bradley refers to are beautiful women and occasionally you get one that goes above and beyond, but they are too mechanical for me. That said, I would add I have never been disappointed with any of my experiences with any of the ladies at TCCC or the other CC's. Although they may not be a perfect 10, they have all provided the services that I paid for and you can't beat the price IMHO. So, again, thanks for the lead and I hope to visit our little japanese geisha again before she departs.[/QUOTE]


Just Ken,

Whether it be joni or joye, our "little Japanese geisha" is a perfect name for her!! Glad you liked her style!! :D

MnV

<Pardon the musical theme here>

Rainy days and Mondays don't always get me down....and as it turned into a slower than expected day (a 33 rpm vice 78 spinner of a day), an earlier than usual departure found me, not down by the old mill stream, but down at the Bay.

Now I did not sit on the dock, but I did bump into another fine fellow who was just leaving as I rang the bell -- sorry for that surprise to whoever it was.

I'd made an appointment and was happy to see CoCo had returned from her two week vacation. I paid the usual for the hour and since the CD player was not a Karaoke machine, I abandoned the thoughts of singing and simply relaxed into a nice dream state.

For those that have not met, Coco is a wonderful person, with very strong hands -- truly a talent when it comes to providing a great massage.

I highly recommend and will definitely repeat.

Always be nice to the ladies

PA

I have been in VA for 2 years and for the most part the dried up Oriental Express has not been very satisfying to either lobido or soul.

April 22, this changed for the minute when I visited 21155 (as advertised on CL). There I saw BB and she was real fine. 29 (as she claims) was wearinga denim mini making her look like a young beach bunny, sexy and slim. Nice little eye candy and the tiggles were still perky with the best painted up "A", for the Orient.

Passible rub and nice service. Tried to get 2 bills to complete service because, as she explained, she is not old and dried up like the usual fare in the area. I guess he has had a few of you come to visit. I told her the usual in about. 8 and all I brought was a C. She will try to jack you up before climbing aboard.

In total if I am going to rate her I would say, compared to what I have met in the area she is a straight A+ student but by my usual, I've been to Colombia standards I would rate:

Face = C+ - B
Shape = A-
Service = B (C if you consider the shakedown)
Personality = B
Therapy = B
Table shower = B+ (though she did spend a loy of time washing the crack.)

In conclusion I will visit again. In consideration of this are she is the best I have seen in years and I would like to enjoy before she leaves in the next couple of weeks. The big plus, they have a table shower! For 1. 8 the dog in me got stroked as well!

Let me know how your experience was.

PS: I am still looking for the loving Latina if anyone has their little treat and is willing to share. A latina with her shape will take me to heaven, thankfor the consideration.

A Plus

Bonnie

Attitude and Service B Plus

Seniors and Trusted members PM for details

Yea, I know it's in PWC Sleaze

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]Congrats on the 1 year and 7 months!

Again I WAY TO GO!!!

JJ[/QUOTE]

Thank you my friend. It has been a long and hard battle, but I am doing it. Sobriety is good for me! I am healthier, harder, and more intuned to the needs of the ladies! wink wink

[QUOTE=A John]I think the terminology goes something like this. dried drunk, the same person will drink again, you're in relapse before you ever pick up the drink/drug. There's a lot more but if what they say is true .........................................[/QUOTE]

Close, but no cigar!!! Let me explain! (SORRY TO BE WORDY!)


What is a dry drunk, and the 'dry drunk syndrome' as it is sometimes called? It can best be described as someone who fits one of two conditions. The first is someone who has given up drinking and drugging and not made any internal or emotional changes, they stay the same but the substance is gone. Or in the second case what was once someone abstinent and on a progressive path of recovery has slowly returned to chaotic and unrealistic thinking.

Being active in your addiction sets up many trains of thought, attitudes, feelings, and actions that are problematic. Simply removing the alcohol or drugs without changing these underlying factors will produce a dry drunk syndrome. The dry drunk really refers to a condition and not the person. It is important to recognize a reversion back to our old ways of thinking and acting, or lack of progress in moving forward in recovery.

The dry drunk can be a precursor to the beginnings of relapse, the AA Big Book describes this condition as being "restless, irritable, and discontented". This set of attitudes can apply to anyone who is chemically dependent, or even those were not.

[QUOTE=Stay Sober]What is a dry drunk, and the 'dry drunk syndrome' as it is sometimes called? It can best be described as someone who fits one of two conditions. The first is someone who has given up drinking and drugging and not made any internal or emotional changes, they stay the same but the substance is gone. Or in the second case what was once someone abstinent and on a progressive path of recovery has slowly returned to chaotic and unrealistic thinking.

Being active in your addiction sets up many trains of thought, attitudes, feelings, and actions that are problematic. Simply removing the alcohol or drugs without changing these underlying factors will produce a dry drunk syndrome. The dry drunk really refers to a condition and not the person. It is important to recognize a reversion back to our old ways of thinking and acting, or lack of progress in moving forward in recovery.

The dry drunk can be a precursor to the beginnings of relapse, the AA Big Book describes this condition as being "restless, irritable, and discontented". This set of attitudes can apply to anyone who is chemically dependent, or even those were not.[/QUOTE]Now, gentlemen, before Admin steps in and deletes your posts on the premise that the discussion is unrelated to the purpose of this database (i.e., exchanging information about finding/meeting women), let me see if I can relate it to that purpose:

[b](1)[/b] The logical progression of Stay Sober's and A John's thread: What is a dry monger and what is "Dry Monger Syndrome"? The first would be someone who has given up mongering but has not changed internally. The women are gone from his life, but the dry monger still drives up-and-down various loops & strolls, forelornly looking at the local talent. Or, he parks outside the local AMPs and watches the other mongers go in and out (so to speak). The second describes someone who left mongering for a while, but has since returned to the same chaotic and unrealistic belief that he will actually encounter Paris Hilton on CL or Rio Hamasaki in an AMP or Xaviera Hollander on a local stroll. As for being "[i]restless, irritable, and discontented[/i]," I can't say that that is necessarily applicable only to dry mongers. In fact, it could probably describe [u]any[/u] monger...until he finds satisfaction. :D

[b](2)[/b] As for what this might mean, in practical terms? Well, it probably means that there [u]really are[/u] some women who look ugly at 3 am, whether or not the lights are off. And, it probably means that the CL honey who we called, and whose pictures look too good to be true, [u]really is[/u] a ROB. And, it probably means that the same AMP that gave us lousy service the last time we visited will give us the same lousy service on the next visit. But, unlike the dry drunk, the solution for the dry monger is monger harder. Plan with the big head, and act with the little head.

Seriously, amigos, I'm not trying to make fun of a recovering alcoholic's condition or daily life. I truly wish the best for you, one day at a time. Congrats on the milestone of sorts, and continued success each day.

R::R

I recently took a HOLIDAY. It wasn't the BEST, but it's parallel to it. I decided to try a different place. Bad choice. First off when I walked in the talent opened the door to let another monger out. I don't get wierd when I see a fellow hobbyist, but some others may. Kinda unprofessional. She should have looked out the door to make sure the coast was clear. Just my opinion. It all went down hill from there. I asked her if they were busy. She said no. So I pay my fee and am then told I would have to wait for about 10 minutes. First red flag. I wait in the room, not for 10...not for 20...but for 30 minutes!. I would have walked if not for the fact that I already paid. Talent was an attractive later 20's to early 30's. Nice rack. TS was average. Massage was short. Around 25 minutes. I would think if they made me wait for so long they would AT LEAST give me the time I paid for. Not so. HJ was boring and OTC touching was allowed, but she made it a point to almost stand out of hands reach. Thumbs down. Won't be going back.

After reading previous reports, I decided to make the trip again. Tami took care of me. Cute girl, mid to late 30s. Everything as described before, above NoVa standard. They have table shower now. Great. I've tried to see Kay again, but was told she doesn't work anymore. Anyone has any experience with her lately? Please PM me with your info and for details on my session.

Thanks and enjoy the warm weather.

Visited this place just out of curiosity. I usually go to Young's. Tina was my provider. Not good looking, somewhere between 40 and 50. Talked too much. TS okay, massage okay, tried to walk my back, but that room didn't have the set up for it, so just walk my shoulders. No transition from massage to end, no touch, directly went for it. I would repeat, but with someone else.

PM for details if interested.

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Seriously, amigos, I'm not trying to make fun of a recovering alcoholic's condition or daily life. I truly wish the best for you, one day at a time. Congrats on the milestone of sorts, and continued success each day.

R::R[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the support my main Monger Friend!!

Say Sober

Just a question.- PM is fine (no need to junk up the boards).

I've tried both hour and half-hour appointments.

On the one side.- the results are generally the same.

On the other.- I find much less satisfaction with the 30 minute slots. Although all the activities are the same, it just "isn't the same".- as this "ticking clock" is driving the timing vice just the enjoyment and natural flow of the appointment.

Perhaps this is truly a YMMV kind of thing.- or perhaps there are some providers that have mastered the 30 minute visit (and I haven't found them).

Thanks. Next report, I promise an update for my ATF place- and it will be for an hour I think

Always be nice to the ladies

PA

To me, the key thing has always been that with the one hour appointment (vs. the 30 minute variety), you usually have the shower. The shower is important because it allows the therapist to be totally confident that the client is as clean as possible. I know many of us will shower at home before visiting the spa. But for others (for example if one is coming from work), this is not practicable.

I'm sure there are exceptions to this as with all rules of thumb. But in general, I think that the cleaner you are (in the eyes of the provider), the better your service will be.

Well gent’s, this is my last report. I am moving on here shortly to San Antonio, TX. And judging by the board, I am S O L!

Anyway, went to my ATF, Kim’s for a last hoorah. Luck was with me and Angie was there! Told her the bad news about me leaving and she was sad (hopefully real, but you never know) Told her I was moving on and this would be my last visit. She said, ”I so sowy, I give you special girl for special farewell” We hugged and kissed, and she left.

Did not catch her name, but oh my GAWD! She was hot! She was about 25 – 30 and had the most perfect Cs ever a woman had!

TS was great, well scrubbed in all the right places. Got back to the room and it was obvious that Angie told her that this was my last visit. She asked about me moving and about why I was leaving! I lay down and she started a very nice and sensual message! Rubbed and squeezed and walked in all the right places.

Well, now she started the soft touch, light rubbing and the tongue came out! So I raised my butt in the air and she continued. Got my first (hopefully not the last) AR! It was just about the most wonderful feeling thing in the world! She really licked that spot like no other!!!

I offered to rub her down, and she obliged. She lies down on her back and let me pull off her panties. I rubbed her feet, calves, and thighs. Then rubbed the special spot! She really seemed to like it. I went downtown and then she really started to squirm. Talk about wet! WOW! Did this for about 10 min, and she told me to get back on the table and relax. Now, I don’t know if it was one of those fake ones or not, but I’ll bet a dollar to a donut that it was real, BBBJ! I finished in her mouth with no swallow, but the sexy spitting sounds. She left to get some hot towels. Spent the next 10-15 min in ecstasy while getting final rubdown.

All told, I was in there for 70 min, I left WAY more tip than required, but I did get exceptional service!!!

Standard is .8 for hour with shower. .4 is normal tip, but I left her something special, no need to discuss it here!
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These last 18 months has been a real release for me. But now that I have overcome alcoholism, and now sober, I am ready to carry on. The deal with my wife was that if I could stay sober for more than a year, I could come home. Well, that time has come. I am going home. I have 3 beautiful children and a wife that want me to come home. And that is what I am going to do. It has been a pleasure and a privilege, but I must carry on. I have a family that needs me and the mongering lifestyle does not lend itself to the family life. Again, thanks for the good times.

I will read the forum for a few more weeks, and all comments are welcome and I will answer any PMs or responses until May 15.

Roamin Roman

Thanks for all the support in my sobriety. This has been a tough struggle and I am well on my way to a new life!

Stay Sober,

Apologies to the other mongers. But since you stated you would continue to monitor this forum, I figured I'd give you some sage advice here.

San Antonio does have some gems. Best way to discover them is at sacurrent.com Ole Lex has recently spent some time there. There are two good AMP's I can recommend. One is on Blanco Rd. not far inside 410. They do advertise "Korean massage" in sacurrent.com. But the place is owned and usually staffed by Chinese. Another good place is on Austin Highway. It's in a very small cluster of buildings. Just look for the address you get from sacurrent.com. When I was there recently they actually had a cute looking older Chinese gal as well as a sweet looking Latina. I had the Chinese and had to do a lot of coaxing. But everything was on the menu.

I've been traveling to SAT for a long time now and the AMP scene has been very slow to develop. Prices are about what they are everywhere else in the country. But I think that the places there try to stay more below the radar since it's really the bible belt.

Enjoy SAT.

LexLuther