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I'm guilty, as well. Almost cost me everything. I would stop short of saying it was a con job. I will just say, she was motivated by the dollar. (I'm not talking about Chelsea, here.) Bottom line, we were both interested in pursuing and seeing where things led and probably could have worked. Lots of good times. But, after about 6 months, it became clear everything would be great as long as I kept her living standards where she thought it should be. We were well beyond pay for play. But towards the end, it still felt like a business arrangement. I ended it because feelings became involved, expectations did not quite match. It's a shame too, because this girl was beautiful and amazing in the sack. To this day, I think it could have worked out well, but in my mind, I always thought the money was a big motivator for her. She was much younger, much better looking, etc. Granted, I coughed up less than $1,000 to her in those 6 months.

My advice, things can absolutely develop. But in my experience, girls that come from this line of work are hardened to put $ above anything else.

[QUOTE=Cochese4;3781198]I ranked near the top regarding being a fool who Really believed things. Even when I knew better, I still tried to believe, be a friend, that "Special, different, Only One, Friends but More Person".

Yada. I tried and can live with my Intentions. Always a gentlemen, that's for sure. But learned a hard lesson. Some just don't care what they do and it's all part of the Con. Cost me a lot l, not just financial. But faith, trusting in people. Some things are low, even in this part of life.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCrist0527;3781293]I'm guilty, as well. Almost cost me everything. I would stop short of saying it was a con job. I will just say, she was motivated by the dollar. (I'm not talking about Chelsea, here.) Bottom line, we were both interested in pursuing and seeing where things led and probably could have worked. Lots of good times. But, after about 6 months, it became clear everything would be great as long as I kept her living standards where she thought it should be. We were well beyond pay for play. But towards the end, it still felt like a business arrangement. I ended it because feelings became involved, expectations did not quite match. It's a shame too, because this girl was beautiful and amazing in the sack. To this day, I think it could have worked out well, but in my mind, I always thought the money was a big motivator for her. She was much younger, much better looking, etc. Granted, I coughed up less than $1,000 to her in those 6 months.

My advice, things can absolutely develop. But in my experience, girls that come from this line of work are hardened to put $ above anything else.[/QUOTE]I've had a similar experience to this but she was definitely motivated by the money! I only fell for it because of a previous girl that actually fell for me and would no longer accept money from me. I now find it best not to try to take it there unless your first contact with the girl is outside of the biz. I've gotten pretty good at that over the years LOL. But al in all don't get sucked in to the mind games.

[QUOTE=DCrist0527;3781293]I'm guilty, as well. Almost cost me everything. I would stop short of saying it was a con job. I will just say, she was motivated by the dollar. (I'm not talking about Chelsea, here.) Bottom line, we were both interested in pursuing and seeing where things led and probably could have worked. Lots of good times. But, after about 6 months, it became clear everything would be great as long as I kept her living standards where she thought it should be. We were well beyond pay for play. But towards the end, it still felt like a business arrangement. I ended it because feelings became involved, expectations did not quite match. It's a shame too, because this girl was beautiful and amazing in the sack. To this day, I think it could have worked out well, but in my mind, I always thought the money was a big motivator for her. She was much younger, much better looking, etc. Granted, I coughed up less than $1,000 to her in those 6 months.

My advice, things can absolutely develop. But in my experience, girls that come from this line of work are hardened to put $ above anything else.[/QUOTE]I think a few of us have been in a situation where the provider and the hobbyist "hit"it off or atleast the hope from the hobbyist is they will. Each provider I have seen is extremely different. He'll if I could pick from the current pool of the fine lady's in the upstate and pull a weird science experiment and build my own provider my life would be perfect. . LOL Gentlemen imagine a provider with the enthusiasm of jewels, her kisses, the way she works those hips. The best BBBJ of Chealsee with her tight body, the coolness of Sophie with an intellectual side that can be as sensual as Hell. Every damn one of us would be broke. Here is my two sense a provider I once heard complained how she got tons of text over and over all day long a nd it was exhausting to constantly respond. She made a good point we don't go to our barbers, mechanics, or dental hygienists and once service is rendured a constantly text them. Everyone needs remember this is a paid for service that is it nothing more nothing less. Have fun and stay say.

Magicstixx.

Chelsea has great reviews and gives an outstanding session. No doubt about that. Jump at the chance and see her as often as you can. Make sure you get what you pay for at the time because she has another insidious side. She has a well-deserved reputation for last minute no shows, poor communication, and manipulating guys for money. I know from personal experience. She makes excuses but if she cared it wouldn't be a problem. She texts all the time with her sister with no problem. She simply chooses to ignore you. She is the absolute worst in communication and far from professional. She's far worse than any other professional worth her name. The line of guys that she's manipulated outside session for money is long and stretches back to when she first came on the scene in 2014 as the "Twin Peaks Girl". Numerous guys posted that she intentionally manipulated them for money. Search her on the forum. Find out for yourself. Several posters reading this now know exactly what I mean. I've known her for three years, seen her many times, been stood up more times than I can recall, was told we have a "special relationship", and I helped her out a lot. We were very close, according to her, had some hot times together, and I know things about her few people know. I know what it's like when she really orgasms. She fakes it during sessions, according to her. I know her first name and her four last names; two married last names. Did you know she's technically still married? I helped her out numerous times while we were "friends". She made many, many promises, often swearing on the life of her son, but kept none of them. Her excuses were outrageously nonsensical. Relating all those would take a separate post. When I refused to help her any more without some proof where the money went I rarely heard from her after and then only when she needed more help. I caught her in several lies saying she was in the hospital with seizures or in Asheville supposedly visiting her mother when in fact she was in regular contact with others. She claims she and her mother were in serious car accident last year with mom in a coma and she was moved to Asheville later. I defy you to find any record of the accident or of mom being in the hospital. She claimed to have seizures the last two years starting around Christmas time and was in the hospital at least 20-30 times. You'll have a hard time finding her as a patient at any area hospital though. She has four last names and says she can't remember which name she was admitted under. Really?? You'll never be able to confirm anything she says. She was in a bad accident in January. Check the scar on her lower leg. So while she was laid up from seizures and the accident she had fake reviews posted here and on TER to keep her name in circulation and to stay in competition with Jewls. Ask her why Western Union refuses to send her money. Her hair is a tragedy. I've been with her when she was complimented on her "dreads" but they aren't dreadlocks. It's from over two years of putting her hair up in a bun and not taking care of her hair. No salon will touch it without cutting it all off first.

She says the recent accident changed her life and she was going to be a real professional to change her reputation. By recent posts you be the judge about that. What I know is that basic character is extremely hard to change and her natural instinct is to mislead, lie about the most minuscule thing, and be intellectually dishonest. She says she has a serious boyfriend now; a former client, and wants to get out of the business. Without help I doubt she can do that. She wonders why guys start to develop a romantic interest and want a real relationship with her after a couple visits when she actively encourages it to keep guys coming back. She ever tell you "You're special" or have a special relationship? Were condoms optional?

I'm sure some of you can't wait to report this post to her. She reads everything here anyway. I'm sure she will tell you that I'm just angry because she won't see me and I'm lying. I have emails and screenshots to prove my story. I did try recently to her as a professional and got no response. I'm disappointed that someone who I thought was a friend was false from the start. I'm not angry with her. She can't help what she is. I'm upset with myself that I ever believed her, but I'm not lying and she knows it. Question her and she'll flash her eyes, give you that demure smile, flash her tits at you and your little head will take over and you'll believe her. That's cool. You should see her as long as you're happy and get what you pay for but the probability she'll pay back your debt approaches zero. Someday you'll understand that you were happy she saw you but you would have been happier if she hadn't. I thought she was a friend but she was quick to ghost me as soon as it served her purpose. She's a sex provider, not your friend. It's sad to be Chelsea.

I'm posting some personal photos. Sorry some are sideways. Posting this is not without risk. Chelsea says she knows "people in low places" that she asks to "visit" people who cross her. She knows I haven't told everything. Yet.

As always, JMHO.

It's a Paid for Service that shouldn't come with so many How Special You are texts, The Only One, yada, or Anywhere out of session. Getting so many texts, can be a result of hardly answering them, while throwing all the BS your way. Then pop up and respond with pleas for help. Tell you how Special you are after 2nd session. You're different. Connected. Only one they text with out of session. Don't see anyone else Please. Only one that doesn't fake with, Only One other things.

You befriend, you believe. Then wonder if your so special, never a text asking a simple How's your day. You get them for God knows Everything else. But so is a lot of others claiming the same. Ask and deny. MoneyGram's here, driving funds up Personally 50 plus miles away. Not claiming, facts. Goes far deeper, so I'll stop. Do as one pleases, don't say you weren't warned. That's out of bounds to me and most, outside of sessions, Inside as well. Anyone who does things to people, stoop on another level. Of course they deny, it's everyone else fault. He did this, yada, not me.

I have seen Several Professionals now. This problem never occurs. Funny when they give you hug, and tell you how you got conned. Actually it's not funny. They don't laugh at all.

I was Special on Second Session. Do as you please, don't discount others truth because it is. I call my own self a fool. I was. When you know and still try to help, be a friend, yeah.

To each their own, own choices. Really sad. I would have, feels like I did, walk through fire for Chelsea. All in jest, a game.

I was warned, I chose to believe in her. Warned so many times, I stuck, but asked questions. Liars. Still tried knowing I was a game. Nothing more than playing marbles. No cares. I was still much more than friends until the last week we spoke.

You are my hero, just wish I could have got the video's going, LOL She did look like she was curling your toes, omglol.

Seriously, a gratitude of thanks for all the money you, and ABC also, saved me from this one, grief and time as well.

Thank God as I get older it don't take near as much as it use to.

Peace Brother,

L2 p.

There is a simple test to see if feelings have truly developed. Ask her for money. Make up some bs about needing cash for a gambling debt or they are going to break your arm. Something drastic. If she comes thru for you, then she's got feelings for you. If she ignores you, well, you get the point. It's that simple. I've done this test for YEARS and only had ONE girl hand over the cash because of feelings. We had a very good relationship until she moved away with her new husband. So it is possible, just Very, VERY rare!

-MD.

[QUOTE=MrPinkPanther;3780626]First time posting. I've seen Chelsea a few times over the years. Also a good time. I have a question. How many know her real name? And how many of us does she say she cares for? Like she will texts on hoildays. And I know. I know. Dumb ass. It's her job. I haven't seen her in a while. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MilkDud;3781717]There is a simple test to see if feelings have truly developed. Ask her for money. Make up some bs about needing cash for a gambling debt or they are going to break your arm. Something drastic. If she comes thru for you, then she's got feelings for you. If she ignores you, well, you get the point. It's that simple. I've done this test for YEARS and only had ONE girl hand over the cash because of feelings. We had a very good relationship until she moved away with her new husband. So it is possible, just Very, VERY rare!

-MD.[/QUOTE]My test when you start feeling like friends. Ask for a freebie. So you see a girl two or three times per month and it feels really good emotionally and you give her couple hundred on your way out the door. So after several months you get pretty friendly.

Try this. Text her the day before an appointment and say you'd love to see her tomorrow but you are short on cash this week due to (car repair / tax bill / dentist bill / lost wallet). Her answer will show you a lot. I've had this work both ways actually.

The couple times that I did get a freebie, I made it up to the girl later just because I really am a nice guy to people that are nice to me (and a prick to those who aren't). Most girls in this hobby will find an excuse to not see you. Some will even get down right pissed off. Oh well.

I just recently had an arrangement with an SA girl come to an end. We met in December shortly after she put her ad up. I may have been her first response. We met in public then went back to her place. She was young and just broken up with a boy her age she'd been with for years. We had the type of sex where a curious young person was anxiuos to learn from an older experienced person. I did my usual Monk / NCIS investigatory stunts and learned that she had a normal education, good job, family, etc and really had just ended a monogamous relationship right before we met. So I would visit her at her apartment every other Saturday. After each visit I would give her a couple hundred, and she seemed truly appreciative. The next visit she would proudly display some new shoes or clothes she had bought. She was horny but inexperienced. Beautiful and smart. Over the course of several visits, I taught her to deepthroat, take it in her butt, dp her with toys, submit to spankings and following directions as to what she should be wearing or what toys to have on the bed when I arrived. How could I not fall for a chick like this? We would text in between visits and talk about stuff we were doing outside of the arrangement. Being the amateur detective that I am, I would ask her about what fun things she did on our off / in-between weekends and she tell me about an event or whatever and it would check out. So I thought I may very well be the only monger she's seeing. She did mention a couple boys her age that she saw when out and about that she was thinking about hooking up with and would actually ask my advice. So while enjoying this little hottie for several months, I do notice she is logged onto SA regularly, but I don't mention that to her.

Two weeks ago I send a friendly text mid week to set up our Saturday play time. I was going to give her instructions to wear a certain outfit and to tell her which of her little plugs I expected to find in her butt when I arrived. She completely surprised me with a return text that she had been on a few dates with a non-SA guy that she'd met when out-and-about and that she was becoming romantically involved. She wanted to give this "regular relationship" a chance and wasn't feeling good about sex with other men while dating this regular guy. I responded with a classy "I understand but I'm disappointed, let me know how it goes, good luck".

And guess what my friends. Yeah, I got a broken heart. Sat around feeling sorry for myself. But I deserved it. How real of a relationship can a guy in his 50's have with a girl in her 20's? Especially when I'm a normal guy and this girl looks like a model and does anything (anything!) you ask in the bedroom. Now here's the best part. She still logs on to her SA profile occasionally. What I now think happened was that she simply found an acceptable man that was willing to spend more. And I understand that. She's young, just stating out with her own place and wanting to make some money. I was dropping 200 per visit and she probably found a guy dropping 400. Economics 101. She probably really likes me enough not to be rude about the truth so she gave "the boyfriend story". Damm. I asked her to keep in touch and I will send a friendly "hi, how you been" text once a month or so just in case there's a chance of tagging that tight ass again. But it's over.

I cannot reveal exactly who this girl is. For one thing, she's just too damn good to be true and I do have a selfish interest. For another thing, (can't make this stuff up) after meeting her, I realize that I work at the same place as her father, I live in the same small town as her parents (not Greenville). Things could go from awkward to really bad.

But, I will offer this. If one of you is seeing an educated young blonde, no peircings no tattoos, at an apartment near the Pelham & Haywood intersection, send me a PM. I'm just dying of curiousity and would love to compare notes. I find this whole thing fascinating. I'm a people watcher, detective, amateur psychologist haha.

Mikey.

I suppose I should feel lucky. She never got me financial. Well, once but as I was giving it to her I told her I will never see this again. But that didn't stop her from constantly trying. It's sad. I believe she would be a sweet women. But is the most disturb person I have met. I'm sure she will continue doing what she is doing. Eventually it will be the wrong person. And she will get hurt or worse. Emotionally is a different story. But I never truly believed her. Not that I didn't hope it was true. Any way. If it helps you. I image she will never stop prostituting. She will never know what it's like to be in an loving caring adult relationship. No long term relationships for her. If she lives long enough her family will disown her. And at the end she will probably die alone in hotel room with a needle in her arm. I'm not bitter at all. Ha.

[QUOTE=Shelby500;3781553]Chelsea has great reviews and gives an outstanding session. No doubt about that. Jump at the chance and see her as often as you can. Make sure you get what you pay for at the time because she has another insidious side. She has a well-deserved reputation for last minute no shows, poor communication, and manipulating guys for money. I know from personal experience. She makes excuses but if she cared it wouldn't be a problem. She texts all the time with her sister with no problem. She simply chooses to ignore you. She is the absolute worst in communication and far from professional. She's far worse than any other professional worth her name. The line of guys that she's manipulated outside session for money is long and stretches back to when she first came on the scene in 2014 as the "Twin Peaks Girl". Numerous guys posted that she intentionally manipulated them for money. Search her on the forum. Find out for yourself. Several posters reading this now know exactly what I mean. I've known her for three years, seen her many times, been stood up more times than I can recall, was told we have a "special relationship", and I helped her out a lot. We were very close, according to her, had some hot times together, and I know things about her few people know. I know what it's like when she really orgasms. She fakes it during sessions, according to her. I know her first name and her four last names; two married last names. Did you know she's technically still married? I helped her out numerous times while we were "friends". She made many, many promises, often swearing on the life of her son, but kept none of them. Her excuses were outrageously nonsensical. Relating all those would take a separate post. When I refused to help her any more without some proof where the money went I rarely heard from her after and then only when she needed more help. I caught her in several lies saying she was in the hospital with seizures or in Asheville supposedly visiting her mother when in fact she was in regular contact with others. She claims she and her mother were in serious car accident last year with mom in a coma and she was moved to Asheville later. I defy you to find any record of the accident or of mom being in the hospital. She claimed to have seizures the last two years starting around Christmas time and was in the hospital at least 20-30 times. You'll have a hard time finding her as a patient at any area hospital though. She has four last names and says she can't remember which name she was admitted under. Really?? You'll never be able to confirm anything she says. She was in a bad accident in January. Check the scar on her lower leg. So while she was laid up from seizures and the accident she had fake reviews posted here and on TER to keep her name in circulation and to stay in competition with Jewls. Ask her why Western Union refuses to send her money. Her hair is a tragedy. I've been with her when she was complimented on her "dreads" but they aren't dreadlocks. It's from over two years of putting her hair up in a bun and not taking care of her hair. No salon will touch it without cutting it all off first.

She says the recent accident changed her life and she was going to be a real professional to change her reputation. By recent posts you be the judge about that. What I know is that basic character is extremely hard to change and her natural instinct is to mislead, lie about the most minuscule thing, and be intellectually dishonest. She says she has a serious boyfriend now; a former client, and wants to get out of the business. Without help I doubt she can do that. She wonders why guys start to develop a romantic interest and want a real relationship with her after a couple visits when she actively encourages it to keep guys coming back. She ever tell you "You're special" or have a special relationship? Were condoms optional?

I'm sure some of you can't wait to report this post to her. She reads everything here anyway. I'm sure she will tell you that I'm just angry because she won't see me and I'm lying. I have emails and screenshots to prove my story. I did try recently to her as a professional and got no response. I'm disappointed that someone who I thought was a friend was false from the start. I'm not angry with her. She can't help what she is. I'm upset with myself that I ever believed her, but I'm not lying and she knows it. Question her and she'll flash her eyes, give you that demure smile, flash her tits at you and your little head will take over and you'll believe her. That's cool. You should see her as long as you're happy and get what you pay for but the probability she'll pay back your debt approaches zero. Someday you'll understand that you were happy she saw you but you would have been happier if she hadn't. I thought she was a friend but she was quick to ghost me as soon as it served her purpose. She's a sex provider, not your friend. It's sad to be Chelsea.

I'm posting some personal photos. Sorry some are sideways. Posting this is not without risk. Chelsea says she knows "people in low places" that she asks to "visit" people who cross her. She knows I haven't told everything. Yet.

As always, JMHO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lov2play;3781655]You are my hero, just wish I could have got the video's going, LOL She did look like she was curling your toes, omglol.

Seriously, a gratitude of thanks for all the money you, and ABC also, saved me from this one, grief and time as well.

Thank God as I get older it don't take near as much as it use to.

Peace Brother,

L2 p.[/QUOTE]Hello All,

She is good when she is good and bad when she is bad! As always, YMMV with most of the providers. I take anything and everything that all women tell me with a grain of salt. The bottom line with all of this regardless if they are season professionals or newbies who are trying to be sugar babies is simple: this is a business transaction to them. You have to keep feeling always in check when dealing with them. If you don't, then you will get burned in the end!!

Stay safe all!

Thanks,
ABC

Hey guys,

Just relocated from the gulf coast where I had a ton of success between BP and SA. It seems here though that most BP girls that I'm interested in flake and all the SA girls want ridiculous money. I don't know if I was spoiled down there or if I have just had a bad run of luck here. Anyway, all that being said, can the senior guys here, who know the market, point me in the right direction to find some UTR girls or something regular that isn't a total flake? Really appreciate y'alls help. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shelby500;3781553]Chelsea has great reviews and gives an outstanding session. No doubt about that. Jump at the chance and see her as often as you can. Make sure you get what you pay for at the time because she has another insidious side. She has a well-deserved reputation for last minute no shows, poor communication, and manipulating guys for money. I know from personal experience. She makes excuses but if she cared it wouldn't be a problem. She texts all the time with her sister with no problem. She simply chooses to ignore you. She is the absolute worst in communication and far from professional. She's far worse than any other professional worth her name. The line of guys that she's manipulated outside session for money is long and stretches back to when she first came on the scene in 2014 as the "Twin Peaks Girl". Numerous guys posted that she intentionally manipulated them for money. Search her on the forum. Find out for yourself. Several posters reading this now know exactly what I mean. I've known her for three years, seen her many times, been stood up more times than I can recall, was told we have a "special relationship", and I helped her out a lot. We were very close, according to her, had some hot times together, and I know things about her few people know. I know what it's like when she really orgasms. She fakes it during sessions, according to her. I know her first name and her four last names; two married last names. Did you know she's technically still married? I helped her out numerous times while we were "friends". She made many, many promises, often swearing on the life of her son, but kept none of them. Her excuses were outrageously nonsensical. Relating all those would take a separate post. When I refused to help her any more without some proof where the money went I rarely heard from her after and then only when she needed more help. I caught her in several lies saying she was in the hospital with seizures or in Asheville supposedly visiting her mother when in fact she was in regular contact with others. She claims she and her mother were in serious car accident last year with mom in a coma and she was moved to Asheville later. I defy you to find any record of the accident or of mom being in the hospital. She claimed to have seizures the last two years starting around Christmas time and was in the hospital at least 20-30 times. You'll have a hard time finding her as a patient at any area hospital though. She has four last names and says she can't remember which name she was admitted under. Really?? You'll never be able to confirm anything she says. She was in a bad accident in January. Check the scar on her lower leg. So while she was laid up from seizures and the accident she had fake reviews posted here and on TER to keep her name in circulation and to stay in competition with Jewls. Ask her why Western Union refuses to send her money. Her hair is a tragedy. I've been with her when she was complimented on her "dreads" but they aren't dreadlocks. It's from over two years of putting her hair up in a bun and not taking care of her hair. No salon will touch it without cutting it all off first.

She says the recent accident changed her life and she was going to be a real professional to change her reputation. By recent posts you be the judge about that. What I know is that basic character is extremely hard to change and her natural instinct is to mislead, lie about the most minuscule thing, and be intellectually dishonest. She says she has a serious boyfriend now; a former client, and wants to get out of the business. Without help I doubt she can do that. She wonders why guys start to develop a romantic interest and want a real relationship with her after a couple visits when she actively encourages it to keep guys coming back. She ever tell you "You're special" or have a special relationship? Were condoms optional?

I'm sure some of you can't wait to report this post to her. She reads everything here anyway. I'm sure she will tell you that I'm just angry because she won't see me and I'm lying. I have emails and screenshots to prove my story. I did try recently to her as a professional and got no response. I'm disappointed that someone who I thought was a friend was false from the start. I'm not angry with her. She can't help what she is. I'm upset with myself that I ever believed her, but I'm not lying and she knows it. Question her and she'll flash her eyes, give you that demure smile, flash her tits at you and your little head will take over and you'll believe her. That's cool. You should see her as long as you're happy and get what you pay for but the probability she'll pay back your debt approaches zero. Someday you'll understand that you were happy she saw you but you would have been happier if she hadn't. I thought she was a friend but she was quick to ghost me as soon as it served her purpose. She's a sex provider, not your friend. It's sad to be Chelsea.

I'm posting some personal photos. Sorry some are sideways. Posting this is not without risk. Chelsea says she knows "people in low places" that she asks to "visit" people who cross her. She knows I haven't told everything. Yet.

As always, JMHO.[/QUOTE]

There are 3 kinds of women, the first category you are friends / work colleagues with whom you do not fuck no matter how hot they are (for a variety of different reasons), the second category are ones you date, some are hot, may end up as FWB and they may become GFs or wives (you get to fuck these ones) and the third category are ones you pay to fuck. The Category 3 women will never ever successfully become the Category 2 women, EVER, so don't even hope for it and don't let your feelings develop for them. Also with Category 3 women, money always flows in one direction, it never flows back the other way, ever, so don't even hope or think it is a possibility. Depending on whether Category 3 women do it to feed addictions or do it for a living, they are generally not reliable, they seldom do what they say, they may be here one day and gone the next, they cannot be relied on for telling the truth, they often lie even when unnecessary, they will try an milk you for every cent you can spare and they are not your friend, never will be, and they often have multiple guys helping them survive or make their living. Trust these truisms as they have been developed over many years of experiences and any experienced monger will attest to them. The advantage of these Category 3 women is that they are usually hot, they fuck like rabbits, they love to fuck, they are willing to fuck us no matter how hideous we are as long as we pay for it but most importantly, they are gone as soon as you have fucked them so you do not have to deal with their drama and BS.

The best scenario is to set yourself up with 3-4 of these Category 3 women, like gambling, you need to set yourself a limit on how much you want to spend on each of them each week, just make sure you do not exceed your limit, no matter how much they beg, unless of course they are willing to let you do even more deviant things to them. Also note that a lot of how much you spend on each depends on what you agreed to the first time. I have this hot regular who will have sex in any position, loves anal sex and ATM and I give her less than another equally hot regular who only does straight sex and no anal as she does not like it. I also have a regular who has been clean and these days she just enjoys good sex, has the milkiest tits (her last kid was more than 5 year ago!), loves anal, ATM and after we go out for a nice meal doesn't even ask me for money anymore. But I also had 4 regulars who got cleaned, relapsed, OD'd and died in 2017. A couple of them were the perfect situation, they had BFs or SDs with whom they lived with but they were always DTF whenever I called. But in all cases, money always flows in one direction. One of my regulars stays with a friend who pays the rent and lets her stay with him, he got some $25K disability settlement in Dec 2017, I did not hear from her despite multiple calls for 2 months while they blew through the $25K, she was set during those few months and she could have thrown me a couple of freebies, but did she? No, not once. But that is the way it is, money and favors only flow in one direction.

The sooner you learn the truisms of Category 3 women and behave accordingly, the happier you'll be and the less bitter you'll be when one of them does the things Chelsea did because you will would have expected it. Hope it works out for you.

New in town and was hoping someone could point me in the direction of some non flaky girls or where I may be able to find some UTR girls. Having terrible luck with BP for flakes and SA for anything reasonable right now. Fellow monger feeling lost in my new town! Haha! Appreciate any help. Thanks!

Couldn't agree with you more when you say you can't turn a 3 into a 2. Had a SA SB a couple years back that was half my age. Complete submissive freak that made every one of my dreams come true. I fell in love with the pussy and started catching feelings with all the "You like that daddy talk" and dough eyed eye batting, but when untried to take it to the next level after a year and a half I got shut down. Always have to remember, these girls are on that site for a reason. To get paid, and they will show you whatever you want, and do whatever you want. But don't get it twisted in your head. They aren't here to fall in love. They are here for new handbags and new shoes to show off to other guys their own age at the club. God bless them though. They make me feel young again.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;3787854]There are 3 kinds of women, the first you are friends / work colleagues with whom you do not fuck no matter how hot they are (for a variety of different reasons), the second are ones you date, some are hot, may end up as FWB and they may become GFs or wives (you get to fuck these ones) and the third are ones you pay to fuck. The last category will never ever successfully become the second category, EVER, so don't even hope for it and don't let your feelings develop for them. Also with the last category, money always flows in one direction, it never flows back the other way, ever, so don't even hope or think it is a possibility. Depending of whether the ones and the third category do it to feed addictions or do it for a living, they are generally not reliable, they seldom do what they say, they may be here one day and gone the next, they cannot be relied on for telling the truth, they often lie even when unnecessary, they will try an milk you for every cent you can spare and they are not your friend, and never will be, and they often have multiple guys helping them survive or make their living. Trust these truisms as they have been developed over many years and experiences and any experienced monger will attest to them. The advantage of these category 3 women is then they are usually hot, they fuck like rabbits, they love to fuck, they are willing to fuck us no matter how hideous we are as long as we pay for it but most importantly, they are gone as soon as you have fucked them so you do not have to deal with their drama and bs..[/QUOTE]

Ever. Never let your feelings develop for these category 3 women. Never going to end up well. I dare you prove me wrong. Treat them respectfully as you do for anyone else, but that's it. Nothing more.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;3787854]There are 3 kinds of women, the first category you are friends / work colleagues with whom you do not fuck no matter how hot they are (for a variety of different reasons), the second category are ones you date, some are hot, may end up as FWB and they may become GFs or wives (you get to fuck these ones) and the third category are ones you pay to fuck. The Category 3 women will never ever successfully become the Category 2 women, EVER, so don't even hope for it and don't let your feelings develop for them. Also with Category 3 women, money always flows in one direction, it never flows back the other way, ever, so don't even hope or think it is a possibility. Depending on whether Category 3 women do it to feed addictions or do it for a living, they are generally not reliable, they seldom do what they say, they may be here one day and gone the next, they cannot be relied on for telling the truth, they often lie even when unnecessary, they will try an milk you for every cent you can spare and they are not your friend, never will be, and they often have multiple guys helping them survive or make their living. Trust these truisms as they have been developed over many years of experiences and any experienced monger will attest to them. The advantage of these Category 3 women is that they are usually hot, they fuck like rabbits, they love to fuck, they are willing to fuck us no matter how hideous we are as long as we pay for it but most importantly, they are gone as soon as you have fucked them so you do not have to deal with their drama and BS.

The best scenario is to set yourself up with 3-4 of these Category 3 women, like gambling, you need to set yourself a limit on how much you want to spend on each of them each week, just make sure you do not exceed your limit, no matter how much they beg, unless of course they are willing to let you do even more deviant things to them. Also note that a lot of how much you spend on each depends on what you agreed to the first time. I have this hot regular who will have sex in any position, loves anal sex and ATM and I give her less than another equally hot regular who only does straight sex and no anal as she does not like it. I also have a regular who has been clean and these days she just enjoys good sex, has the milkiest tits (her last kid was more than 5 year ago!), loves anal, ATM and after we go out for a nice meal doesn't even ask me for money anymore. But I also had 4 regulars who got cleaned, relapsed, OD'd and died in 2017. A couple of them were the perfect situation, they had BFs or SDs with whom they lived with but they were always DTF whenever I called. But in all cases, money always flows in one direction. One of my regulars stays with a friend who pays the rent and lets her stay with him, he got some $25K disability settlement in Dec 2017, I did not hear from her despite multiple calls for 2 months while they blew through the $25K, she was set during those few months and she could have thrown me a couple of freebies, but did she? No, not once. But that is the way it is, money and favors only flow in one direction.

The sooner you learn the truisms of Category 3 women and behave accordingly, the happier you'll be and the less bitter you'll be when one of them does the things Chelsea did because you will would have expected it. Hope it works out for you.[/QUOTE]