Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=Barraquda22;5950554]Blame the morons paying to watch lazy women sit naked at home. The fading of this hobby coinsided with the rise of the bullshit that is 0nlyfans and all the shit like it. Stop being super simps and they will get hungry and be back to honest work.

BQ22.[/QUOTE]Still baffles me on why these idiots are willing to pay for pics or vids when there is so much free content and when they could actuality have real hands on fun for the same price or lower at a strip club or being into the hobby. Seeing one of the girls for incall, getting a massage, or even picking up a streetwalker would get them actual value for their money.

[QUOTE=DriftingFan101;5951705]Still baffles me on why these idiots are willing to pay for pics or vids when there is so much free content and when they could actuality have real hands on fun for the same price or lower at a strip club or being into the hobby. Seeing one of the girls for incall, getting a massage, or even picking up a streetwalker would get them actual value for their money.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, different people spend their money and place different values on different things. I do pay for an only fans account, but it's a girl I somewhat regularly see in the area. She was offering a discount a couple months ago, so I signed up. I think she should do a better job of posting new stuff, LOL, but it's interesting enough. But I agree, personally I wouldn't be interested in paying for some stranger's OF sites. But some guys might. Most guys don't participate in this hobby, and if these guys actually took your advice and entered the market, the already outpacing demand would get much worse. I'm sure OF and seeking affects things and supply is a problem, but the driving force is excessive demand. We all know the cliche of how a girl's phone is blowing up during a date. Someone recently showed me her phone. She had texts from 7 guys and a Snapchat in under 2 hours before noon (don't you guys work, LOL). She hadn't even posted an ad yet that day. The market is the market. Maybe inflation, gas prices and concerns of a recession might put pressure on demand. Things are not great, but I think this year actually has be a little better than last year. Not saying much.

[QUOTE=DriftingFan101;5951705]Still baffles me on why these idiots are willing to pay for pics or vids when there is so much free content and when they could actuality have real hands on fun for the same price or lower at a strip club or being into the hobby. Seeing one of the girls for incall, getting a massage, or even picking up a streetwalker would get them actual value for their money.[/QUOTE]Part of it is married idiots on lockdown (prolly part of why providers overbook, half of the needledicks that call or text have absolutely no intention of ever going through with it anyway) and the rest are pussies / overly fearful of getting caught. My first SW pickup? Literally was someone asking for a ride that happened to be where I was heading and I joked about gas money and she sucked my dick for a lift. Gave me her number and said she'd do a lot more than that for $30. And that's how I started into the hobby, young dumb and for that second emptied of cum. But I don't think I'd have ever set out to pick up a hooker if it hadn't happened that way the first time around.

BQ22.

I've been in the game for almost 25 years now. I've done the AMPs (Probably been to almost every AMP that exists from NOVA to Baltimore), Escorts, and Sugar Dating. The game today is the worst I've ever seen it by far, not even close. I'm confused to be honest. The only thing I can think is that ladies are actually making money online now. Baffles me, I've never paid for pics, or porn, or only fans. Don't have to, so much porn online for free. Anyone else have any thoughts on how the ladies have replaced the escort money they once were getting?

[QUOTE=Shock55;5961266]I've been in the game for almost 25 years now. I've done the AMPs (Probably been to almost every AMP that exists from NOVA to Baltimore), Escorts, and Sugar Dating. The game today is the worst I've ever seen it by far, not even close. I'm confused to be honest. The only thing I can think is that ladies are actually making money online now. Baffles me, I've never paid for pics, or porn, or only fans. Don't have to, so much porn online for free. Anyone else have any thoughts on how the ladies have replaced the escort money they once were getting?[/QUOTE]I'm in the realm where I don't care how anyone spends their money. Some people would pay escort prices on a street walkers and some would pay a mortgage for a few hours on 1 escort.

Same for strip clubs I never understood that concept. You are paying just hundreds of not thousands just to look at naked ladies. Only fans is just a Hulu / Netflix version where you pay at a fraction of that.

[QUOTE=JanusCanal84;5961414]I'm in the realm where I don't care how anyone spends their money. Some people would pay escort prices on a street walkers and some would pay a mortgage for a few hours on 1 escort.

Same for strip clubs I never understood that concept. You are paying just hundreds of not thousands just to look at naked ladies. Only fans is just a Hulu / Netflix version where you pay at a fraction of that.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with paying for porn when there is so much free content online, never understand why one would do that. Also agree with strip clubs or strippers. I see it only for stag parties where the purpose is to tease a buddy out who's getting married. And massage parlors, also never understood that concept of being teased, edged and the anticipation of perhaps getting more than just a massage for what an escort costs. When I want a massage, I want a real massage from an LMT (I actually do get a sports massage weekly but then it's for my back aches from sports), And when I want sex, I want full-blown GFE sex with no holes barred. I'm willing to pay what it takes for either but I better be getting what I paid for and not something less. But to each his own, some love having to pay for something they can get free because it is the act of paying for something 'dirty' that turns them on. Others feel the anticipation of sex is the turn on. I read and article in the NY Times magazine years ago that some guys will pay girls $500-$1000 to clean their apartments in the nude. No wait, get this, the guys would be in the nude and doing the cleaning! All the girls had to do was also be naked, dressed as a domme in leather boots / outfit and whips. They didn't even have to have sex with the guys. Some on these guys would even have girls pee and shit on them, and get this, the guys would even clean up the mess. Of course the pissing and shitting were considered specialty services and the guys paid even more for that. Hey! If you can afford it, indulge in all the kinks that turn you, LOL!

This "tranny" thread. Is it where really twisted Tranny hungry mongers go to find out which tranny's to avoid

I'm a hard up old man that needs a blow job but why in the hell would you pay bank to lay in an autopsy table in hopes you may get a handjob after a shitty massage?

[QUOTE=Frenulum;5973521]I'm a hard up old man that needs a blow job but why in the hell would you pay bank to lay in an autopsy table in hopes you may get a handjob after a shitty massage?[/QUOTE]Lmao! You have a point.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5852899]This should probably be in the Rants & Raves thread and the only reason I'm posting here is because it relates specifically to a couple of really popular girls we all know of and see. Lately been getting complaints from a couple of these girls I thought I should air and before anyone accuses me of being Cpn-Save-a-Ho, read on and decide for yourself. We all know we pay the girls for sex, no pay, no sex. Some could argue we pay girls to leave after sex, which really makes the most sense IMHO. We may develop relationships with some of these girls after seeing them regularly for years and they may confide in us as we confide in them but these girls do not have sex with us for our looks, wit or charm. It is a business relationship and most of us know this basic fact. But some of us feel that spending 1-2 K a month on a girl gives them certain rights. Other than previously agreed to services or unless you have a specific SB-SD agreement that you are exclusive, we are not their bfs or spouses. We do not have the right to be jealous, demand to know what they are doing when they are not fucking us and accuse them of lying about whom and when they are fucking based on reports in this forum. These girls fuck many of us and all during the same period of time. That's why this forum works, we get to tell each other our experiences and benefit from each other. These girls have their own bfs or spouses and do not need additional drama from us. If you choose to let them live with you for free, set them up with bank accounts, put them on the deed to your homes and will, this is on you. Unless they explicitly agree to be exclusive to you in exchange, you do not own them, so stop acting like you do.[/QUOTE]It always makes me chuckle when i hear certain dudes drop 1000-2000 per month on a chick. Fuck that, I drop 100 hit it and quit it. Thats winning!

C92

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5978022]It always makes me chuckle when i hear certain dudes drop 1000-2000 per month on a chick. Fuck that, I drop 100 hit it and quit it. Thats winning!

C92[/QUOTE]Same and me personally it's not about the money mainly the service that I really look at. Yeah some mongers would justify paying that much for someone that looks like a ten to them. But probably sucks in bed.

Meanwhile I'm paying street rates and having a blast fucking throw aways.

[QUOTE=JanusCanal84;5978138]Same and me personally it's not about the money mainly the service that I really look at. Yeah some mongers would justify paying that much for someone that looks like a ten to them. But probably sucks in bed.

Meanwhile I'm paying street rates and having a blast fucking throw aways.[/QUOTE]Like Biggie used to say. . . "Mo money, mo problems". Ha.

[QUOTE=JanusCanal84;5978138]Same and me personally it's not about the money mainly the service that I really look at. Yeah some mongers would justify paying that much for someone that looks like a ten to them. But probably sucks in bed.

Meanwhile I'm paying street rates and having a blast fucking throw aways.[/QUOTE]People paying that much also gives these women over sized egos and then they think all should pay a higher price to see them which is laughable to most of us. GPS gets out of control when dudes waste thousands on them yet think they are buying control over the girls when they never are.

I enjoy paying low price as well, it's for a fun time then it's time to continue on with the day.

Gave up on the one ad source, nothing but "I need you to send money first" scammers. But the scamming continues, in a different market. I had a guy I found on Craigslist that did yard work for me the last 5 summers. This year he called asking if I needed work, but he wanted me to cash app him gas money before he'd come out.

Meaning that a hobbyist will have to pay for the hospital bill for the baby.