[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3231814]Nova mongers will still pay her top notch for a standard nova.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. That is very funny, but absolutely true.
Propilot-Always check your six.
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[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3231814]Nova mongers will still pay her top notch for a standard nova.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. That is very funny, but absolutely true.
Propilot-Always check your six.
[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3231810]Last weekend of the month or first of February. No later than Groundhog Day. I don't want my dick to see its shadow and crawl back in for another 6 weeks.[/QUOTE]It seems like most of the girls have migrated to the women seeking men section of Backpage. But it will be interesting to see how long Backpage's self imposed exile lasts.
[QUOTE=BigJizzle;3242585]It seems like most of the girls have migrated to the women seeking men section of Backpage. But it will be interesting to see how long Backpage's self imposed exile lasts.[/QUOTE]Personally, I think BP should keep the ban. From a legal perspective, it gives them, and anyone of advertises, plausible deniability if all parties are just 'dating' as 'adult services' explicitly banned. It also gives officials a reason to claim victory, I think everyone knows that regardless of who they shut down other advertising services will merely pop up. From a pragmatic perspective its business as usual, but being a little more 'out of sight, out of mind' about it is in everyone's interests.
[URL]http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:s7310zqL[/URL]
I don't have any special insights into the political environment in Hawaii, but this is interesting even if only to add to the dialogue and debate about decriminalization and legalization. It would be nice to have Hawaii join Nevada as a state that doesn't penalize consensual adult activity.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3259207][URL]http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:s7310zqL[/URL]
I don't have any special insights into the political environment in Hawaii, but this is interesting even if only to add to the dialogue and debate about decriminalization and legalization. It would be nice to have Hawaii join Nevada as a state that doesn't penalize consensual adult activity.[/QUOTE][URL]https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154475470211379&id=66874361378[/URL] (Khon).
[URL]https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154120285561861&id=61865376860[/URL] (Kitv).
The comments are livid on the Khon2 and KITV4 facebook post. Many locals and transplants saying let's legalize marijuana and gambling first (they forgot to mention that Kamehameha was a polygamist yet they wear their defend Hawaii crap shirts). Aren't those two things just as bad if one gets addicted? Personally, I wouldn't take a street-ho considering the diseases she may have already been contaminated with. However, the point of the legislation is to decriminalize consensual acts between two consenting adults yet opponents (mostly feminist-conservative females and cuckold men) on the facebook posts kept spouting the typical bullshit of trafficking and being coerced into the job. Trafficking is real but that's an entirely different issue when this is about the ethics of making a simple transaction between both parties (matured individuals) who consent to a particular activity that harms no one outside legal. Also to those who say this will lead to increased adultery, I respond with my thoughts that if a man is truly faithful to his wife, he wouldn't fail the test of temptation when it's readily accessible near him and this would be a great experiment to determine your man's honor. That's why I'm currently MGTOW and enjoying freedom without the matrimony bee-ess. Aloha.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3259207][URL]http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:s7310zqL[/URL]
I don't have any special insights into the political environment in Hawaii, but this is interesting even if only to add to the dialogue and debate about decriminalization and legalization. It would be nice to have Hawaii join Nevada as a state that doesn't penalize consensual adult activity.[/QUOTE]As someone from Hawaii who has partook in some mongering there, this is interesting and probably not going to happen. There is still a lot of open anti-trafficking campaigns going on and I respect that. However, depending on the language of the bill, it probably won't pass. It's an open secret about the AMPs and several were busted before. News stories covered the conditions but although the first shops were closed, they would reopen a month later. The public pressure is real though but it just means that the parlors will work on the thin line they're on.
The question is really whether the mama-sans who manage the places are respectful of the women they have and how much the PD in HI can worry about it (which isn't a lot considering the chief there is about to get fired, the department doesn't have enough funds for his 250 K pension, and they generally have bigger concerns than the AMPs). I support the legislation as a means to maybe help them get future assistance by the state for STD tests, etc. It also won't go the other way either because many are there by choice and love what they do. The ladies are beautiful, kind, and would be appreciative to use funds to do other stuff.
For good service, my go to's are Rejuve and Happiness. The providers there are there because they want to and the mama-sans take care of their people. So long as everyone is happy and healthy, I do not see a problem.
Informative. I knew some of it but definitely not all.
[URL]http://www.citylab.com/crime/2017/02/cellphone-spy-tools-have-flooded-local-police-departments/512543/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3263863]Informative. I knew some of it but definitely not all.
[URL]http://www.citylab.com/crime/2017/02/cellphone-spy-tools-have-flooded-local-police-departments/512543/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, Jim. This is deeply disturbing. What happened to the Fourth Amendment? And why do local police departments need such equipment?
This article provides another reason to use burner phones and change them frequently.
[QUOTE=SexsSarved9141;3259762]As someone from Hawaii who has partook in some mongering there, this is interesting and probably not going to happen. There is still a lot of open anti-trafficking campaigns going on and I respect that. However, depending on the language of the bill, it probably won't pass. It's an open secret about the AMPs and several were busted before. News stories covered the conditions but although the first shops were closed, they would reopen a month later. The public pressure is real though but it just means that the parlors will work on the thin line they're on.
The question is really whether the mama-sans who manage the places are respectful of the women they have and how much the PD in HI can worry about it (which isn't a lot considering the chief there is about to get fired, the department doesn't have enough funds for his 250 K pension, and they generally have bigger concerns than the AMPs). I support the legislation as a means to maybe help them get future assistance by the state for STD tests, etc. It also won't go the other way either because many are there by choice and love what they do. The ladies are beautiful, kind, and would be appreciative to use funds to do other stuff.
For good service, my go to's are Rejuve and Happiness. The providers there are there because they want to and the mama-sans take care of their people. So long as everyone is happy and healthy, I do not see a problem.[/QUOTE]Each time I'm there, there is talk about legalization of prostitution. Heck, on Kalakaua Bl prostitutes walk around right in front of cops and rarely get bothered. Hell, Century Center Plaza is about a dozen floors of AMPs. Reminds me of the FKK Clubs in Germany and Amsterdam. Oh what tax revenue the islands could generate by taxing prostituion.
[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3287888]Each time I'm there, there is talk about legalization of prostitution. Heck, on Kalakaua Bl prostitutes walk around right in front of cops and rarely get bothered. Hell, Century Center Plaza is about a dozen floors of AMPs. Reminds me of the FKK Clubs in Germany and Amsterdam. Oh what tax revenue the islands could generate by taxing prostituion.[/QUOTE]Been there -- liked it! Joy was her name -- and she was true to her name.
Be nice to the Ladies.
NR.
[QUOTE=NoVaRanger;3290645]Been there -- liked it! Joy was her name -- and she was true to her name.
Be nice to the Ladies.
NR.[/QUOTE]I will be visiting a client in Honolulu first week or so of April. La femme nu and Century Plaza will see me every night I'm there! Reminds me, I need to stop by iNova clinic and get a new script for viagra!
[URL]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/fairfax-county-virginia-prostitution-incident-blotter[/URL]
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/1256818/sex-traffickers-took-hundreds-from-thailand-to-us[/URL]
Having seen ladies from most of the different Thai groups in the area, I'm pretty sure some are being trafficked. But most are not.
All the more reason to stick with the trusted "A" group of Kk, Tara, Nikki, Patty, and their friends.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3405199][URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/1256818/sex-traffickers-took-hundreds-from-thailand-to-us[/URL]
Having seen ladies from most of the different Thai groups in the area, I'm pretty sure some are being trafficked. But most are not.
All the more reason to stick with the trusted "A" group of Kk, Tara, Nikki, Patty, and their friends.[/QUOTE]I'm no longer hobbying, but I'll still comment from time to time on news coverage and related topics.
This report disturbs me. Having said that, I'm also quite aware that the term "trafficking" is frequently used even when being applied incorrectly or inappropriately.
Those who are still active should carefully do their homework to be sure they're seeing consenting providers who aren't in the business against their will.
[URL]http://wjla.com/news/local/police-masseur-arrested-for-sexual-battery-and-unlawful-massage-in-fairfax[/URL]
FAIRFAX, Va. (ABC7) — Police say a masseur working at Massage Green Spa in Fairfax City has been arrested and charged with sexual battery and unlawful massage.
A 40-year-old woman told police the man engaged in "extensive unwanted touching" and related actions during a massage on May 25.
Following an investigation, police arrested and charged Anhua Cao, 38, of Fairfax on June 28.
He is being held without bond.
And this time, they're working for the larger of the two local daily bird-cage liners, ahem, newspapers.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/backpage-has-always-claimed-it-doesnt-control-sex-related-ads-new-documents-show-otherwise/2017/07/10/b3158ef6-553c-11e7-b38e-35fd8e0c288f_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_backpage-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.06261b9a4b1c[/URL]
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3464164]And this time, they're working for the larger of the two local daily bird-cage liners, ahem, newspapers.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/backpage-has-always-claimed-it-doesnt-control-sex-related-ads-new-documents-show-otherwise/2017/07/10/b3158ef6-553c-11e7-b38e-35fd8e0c288f_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_backpage-8am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.06261b9a4b1c[/URL][/QUOTE]The ironically named Tom Jackman has been on this beat awhile. Google his name and "massage."
[QUOTE=Eerock;3467007]The ironically named Tom Jackman has been on this beat awhile. Google his name and "massage."[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. It seems he has an agenda like too many other of today's reporters.
Thought I'd give you guys a heads up on something you might be interested in.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/authentic-upscale-young-sultry-blonde-here-eager-to-play/32228773[/URL]
[URL]www.provider.pics/925-727-4622/[/URL]
Pictures are fake, but kind of look like her a little? She's definitely chubby (which I normally don't like) but I thought she was surprisingly cute and a natural chest to die for. Advertises as 19, might be accurate but looks early 20's to me. Now the downside, in convo she said she was full GFE. In person not so much. She said no kissing, no BBBJ. Despite the urge to stay I decided to leave. So if you're not looking for GFE and like thick young white girls might be for you. I would be hesitant since she blatantly lied about her services though.
[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/forced-work-sex-slave-new-york/[/URL]
If the information in this article is accurate, this is an example of a real trafficking situation. The victim was reportedly recruited by an employment agency in her home country and promised legit employment in the US. Once she arrived, she said she was sold for sex work and kept under control by means of coercion, intimidation and force (until she escaped). I thought it was worth posting as an example of the real deal since the media constantly tries to portray every part of the hobby as "trafficking" even when it involves consenting adults making free choices.
Articles are a bit long but have good info, especially about how "rescued victims" are treated.
[URL]http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/14/american-sex-police[/URL]
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/18/fbi-operation-cross-country-xi[/URL]
In too many instances, "anti-trafficking" campaigns are nothing more than a way to guarantee a continual stream of funding for local / state / federal agencies. The stated goal of helping victimized women is often secondary and, in some cases, a complete illusion.
[URL]http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Appeals-court-in-SF-allows-challenge-to-state-law-12292093.php[/URL]#4.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3591635][URL]http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Appeals-court-in-SF-allows-challenge-to-state-law-12292093.php[/URL]#4.[/QUOTE]I think there is a similar bill in DC.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3592116]I think there is a similar bill in DC.[/QUOTE]Yes, but one big difference is that even if the bill in DC passes the City Council and Mayor, the Fed govt still has the final say on DC legislation. I could be wrong but I don't see that happening during the current administration.
The CA situation is a Federal court case challenging the law by saying that it violates the rights of consenting adults. If it keeps going on this path then it could even end in the Supreme Court. And, since we already have one state where prostitution is legal (NV) it'll be interesting to see how that turns out, if it makes it that far.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3592374]Yes, but one big difference is that even if the bill in DC passes the City Council and Mayor, the Fed govt still has the final say on DC legislation. I could be wrong but I don't see that happening during the current administration.
The CA situation is a Federal court case challenging the law by saying that it violates the rights of consenting adults. If it keeps going on this path then it could even end in the Supreme Court. And, since we already have one state where prostitution is legal (NV) it'll be interesting to see how that turns out, if it makes it that far.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in Nevada, but only in certain mostly rural counties. It remains illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas in located.
This court case is worth following. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was a California case which eventually triggered the Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3593546]Prostitution is legal in Nevada, but only in certain mostly rural counties. It remains illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas in located.
This court case is worth following. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was a California case which eventually triggered the Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage.[/QUOTE]Right, NV legalized it but regulates it so it's restricted to certain areas and excludes it from the most populated counties, like Clark and Washoe. But, however that process played out, I don't think it addressed the specific legal questions raised in the CA case.
What's most interesting in the CA case is the argument that it's the basic right of every adult to engage in consensual sexual conduct without government interference. Following that train of thought, why then should it be illegal for consenting adults to exchange something of value while engaging in that basic right?
The other side of the argument is that the state has a compelling interest in keeping prostitution illegal. I'm sure they'll bring up trafficking, drug use, and other such reasons in trying to defend the status quo. But stacked against that is the fact that there are ways to legalize it, such as the NV example, so that it doesn't have to be all or nothing. And if the Federal court agrees that a basic right is being violated, it could issue an order that invalidates most of the prostitution laws in CA. And if that happens it's only a matter of time before it spreads to other states.
Of course, there are lots of moving parts because Congress, the Supreme Court, and even the President could get involved. Lots of moving parts but at least we're having the conversation. And there are plenty of models in Western Europe and elsewhere that demonstrate that there are ways to successfully legalize or decriminalize.
"a new study provides strong evidence that when law enforcement closes down sites like Craigslist or Redbook, women die. ".
[URL]https://thinkprogress.org/craigslist-erotic-services-platform-3eab46092717/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark[/URL]
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/01/fake-human-trafficking-busts-by-dhs[/URL]
I firmly believe that many in LE would rather devote their scarce resources to going after more serious threats to life and property. But, as long as there are state and federal programs and grants that shovel $ to local departments, and as long as there are elected sheriffs and mayors who need to pander to voters, nothing will change.
To paraphrase a common saying: If the preferred tool is an "anti-trafficking" hammer then it's helpful to make every problem look like a "trafficking" nail.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3609260][URL]http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/01/fake-human-trafficking-busts-by-dhs[/URL]
I firmly believe that many in LE would rather devote their scarce resources to going after more serious threats to life and property. But, as long as there are state and federal programs and grants that shovel $ to local departments, and as long as there are elected sheriffs and mayors who need to pander to voters, nothing will change.
To paraphrase a common saying: If the preferred tool is an "anti-trafficking" hammer then it's helpful to make every problem look like a "trafficking" nail.[/QUOTE]Good point, JmSuttr.
I have no desire to see providers who are being held and trafficked against their will. However, I haven't found that to be the case during most of the years I've spent mongering. Perhaps there were a few streetwalkers I saw during my early days of mongering who were being pimped, but getting mugged a couple of times and having my car broken into quickly cured me of picking up streetwalkers in that city.
If there's evidence of actual human trafficking, I'm all for authorities cracking down on such behavior. However, I'm sick and tired of do-gooders on both sides of the aisle criminalizing consenting adults behavior which involves an exchange of money.
[URL]https://www.heraldnet.com/news/everett-man-was-shot-in-the-head-left-for-dead-for-3-days/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3615889][URL]https://www.heraldnet.com/news/everett-man-was-shot-in-the-head-left-for-dead-for-3-days/[/URL][/QUOTE]Now you know why I don't do outcall, even if I happen to be home alone.
I saw this posted on one of the Maryland boards:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2017/11/11/sex-worker-with-over-10000-partners-reveals-what-men-really-want/[/URL]
Sex worker with over 10 K partners reveals what men really want.
By The Sun.
November 11,2017*.
*1:19 pm*.
*Updated.
A former prostitute who has slept over 10,000 men has answered the golden questions that many women ask – including "what do men REALLY want from sex?
Gwyneth Montenegro, 39, from Australia, spent 12 years in the industry and has now written a book revealing the surprising things that men will pay for.
In her book, on "being financially successful in the sex industry", she said "most gentlemen don't always go for the kinky services. ".
In fact, in the decade she was in the industry, the most important thing to her clients was "feeling of being needed and wanted. Wanted badly by a horny woman. It is their ultimate fantasy after all. ".
She said that it is vital, therefore that whatever sex acts you are doing, "you make look like you want him bad and are enjoying him so much (even if you aren't). ".
Gwyneth said that many girls in the industry try to "outdo" other women with the acts or techniques they use, but this is to be avoided.
She said: "Don't try and keep up with, or outdo anyone else, or this can backfire. You only want to work within your boundaries.
"They are regular everyday men who just want some fun, and they want to know that you are having fun too. ".
One of the biggest questions that she found girls asking was whether or not a getting bigger boobs would be beneficial.
Thankfully the former prostitute revealed most men prefer the feel of real boobs and there is a market for every body type.
She wrote: "If you've got them, there's a market. If you don't, there's a market too. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
"A little-known secret in the punting world, is that there are quite a lot of men who will actively seek out escorts who are not the hottest of the hot women and go for someone who isn't as classically beautiful, because they feel shy and sometimes a little inadequate themselves.
"You don't have to be the hottest femme fatale, but as long as you are well groomed, comfortable and confident in your own skin, have a great vibe, energetic and you are professional. Then this is what it takes.
"There are many, many different women of all shapes, ages, sizes and backgrounds than you can think of making money from their body. ".
Gwyneth said that one of the biggest myths is that men only want younger women.
But in her experience, women can be successful at any age, and she has witnessed escorts in their 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's earning good sums of money.
She even heard of one escort who started working at the age of 83, and carried on for four years charging £250 an hour.
In fact, many men want a genuine conversation and connection – something they might not get with girls the same age as their daughters.
She said: "Talking to one of my amazing male friends, who is in his early 50's, he said 'Well that makes sense. Can you see me wanting to book a 22-year-old? If I wanted to have some conversation and connection and to feel like I was getting the attention I wanted, do you think a 22-year-old would necessarily give me that kind of service?
And getting men excited about bedroom action often has little to do with skimpy outfits out in public.
When it comes to the clothes you wear, she said: "You don't have to have 'it all hanging out' to make money in this business".
She said that men like a bit of mystery and would rather pay for something that other men don't always get to see.
She said: "You don't have to **** yourself out in how you dress, to get the attention of the men. ".
Gwyneth revealed she had written the guide to empower women thinking of entering the industry and to teach them how to survive.
She said: "In my line of work I am approached by practicing escorts almost weekly and the trend is alarming. More and more reveal that they are disheartened, bitter, broken and financially struggling. They are desperate.
"How could I sit back and stay quiet, when I know how it's done? With my much talked about 10,091 encounters behind me I don't need the knowledge any more, so I passed it on. ".
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2018/01/15/big-brother-on-wheels-why-your-car-company-may-know-more-about-you-than-your-spouse/?utm_term=.7fd06af678c8[/URL]
WTF? Any data that is collected and stored can ultimately be subpoenaed by LEO or disclosed by the order of a divorce court judge. And, because they'll have a signed "consent" on the lease or purchase papers, good luck to anyone trying to keep their info private.
Seems to me that this is a great business opportunity for aftermarket solutions to block this kind of BS. Hmmm, wonder what the vehicular equivalent of a burner phone is?
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3692588]Seems to me that this is a great business opportunity for aftermarket solutions to block this kind of BS. Hmmm, wonder what the vehicular equivalent of a burner phone is?[/QUOTE]For now, I guess it would be driving an old car not equipped with such modern data collection technology.
That's some pretty scary stuff, and not just with regard to the hobby. Thanks for sharing this article.
Although Richmond's police chief sought the legislation, I understand this bill applies statewide. Each locality would have to adopt a local ordinance if it wants to use the powers granted by the new law, assuming of course that the governor signs the bill. Since the law passed unanimously in both houses of the General Assembly, I doubt he'll veto the legislation.
[URL]http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/general-assembly-gives-richmond-new-tool-to-crack-down-on/article_4b41aee1-f956-57a9-a689-f932bb51d71d.html[/URL]
[URL]Backpage.com[/URL] has been shutdown it looks like. It's been fun guys.
Check the BP homepage for info.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3788878]Check the BP homepage for info.[/QUOTE]Holy shit I just saw it.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3788878]Check the BP homepage for info.[/QUOTE]The real question. Is this good or bad for mongers? Does this put the power back in the hands of mongers to bargain prices or does this drive prices up on providers end?
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3788878]Check the BP homepage for info.[/QUOTE]Sites like this are next.