SWs with 2-3 guys are not exactly "working"
I have often seen known SWs with two guys walking down the street. In my opinion, they are not actively working. But that does not mean they wouldn't if you presented the opportunity. Three is a bit beyond the pale.
I agree that SWs with even one guy in close tow makes the situation iffy. Two even more so, and three, forget it. What you CAN do is catch her eye and pull into a side street. If she approaches alone, you can explore further, with with caution. If the whole crowd approaches, no one will fault you for exiting stage right...
Perhaps you stretch the truth when you say "most SWs are accompanied by two or three guys"? On a recent foray into OTR, I saw maybe two or three with their dude, but had no problem finding an SW walking alone.
Caution is by far the best policy--advice I have not always taken myself...
Giani
[QUOTE=Cincy Remark]It seems like the past couple of weeks most of the sw are accompanied by two or three guys while working. I have seen them hanging with one fairly often in the past but two or three whats up with that. I myself am usually hesitant to stop for anyone with their guy standing right with them, I feel better if they are at least down the street a ways. But having multiple guys right ther makes me stay away. The numbers just aren't good if trouble starts. Anyone else have opinions on this.[/QUOTE]
Watch out, I'd be suspicious of this one
Here is an ad from craigslist today:
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We are 3 blocks away Ohio River.
we are making your dreams come true today with special rates and big surprises.
we are 5 girls, willing to play, rub down, oil, lotions, greek, fs, french, we are very talented in those kind of games.
we can come to you or you can come to us the price is the same.
1 girl $175 1.5 hours, 2 girls $175 45minutes, 2girls $300 1.5 hours.
and we are giving away surprises like extra french lessons by another girl.
come over you will love it.
we DO NOT TAKE CASH for 1st clients, we just take PAYPAL
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Now I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that this is one of the easiest ways you can get ripped off. Let's see- you send paypal pmt, you email for followup, you never hear from them again, your money is gone.
What does everyone else think?
RIP OFF - CASH & DASH ELECTRONICALLY
[QUOTE=Likes to Play]Here is an ad from craigslist today:
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We are 3 blocks away Ohio River.
We are making your dreams come true today with special rates and big surprises.
We are 5 girls, willing to play, rub down, oil, lotions, greek, fs, french, we are very talented in those kind of games.
We can come to you or you can come to us the price is the same.
1 girl $175 1.5 hours, 2 girls $175 45minutes, 2girls $300 1.5 hours.
And we are giving away surprises like extra french lessons by another girl.
Come over you will love it.
we DO NOT TAKE CASH for 1st clients, we just take PAYPAL
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Now I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that this is one of the easiest ways you can get ripped off. Let's see- you send paypal pmt, you email for followup, you never hear from them again, your money is gone.
What does everyone else think?[/QUOTE]When you see Ads like that, you can be sure you'll never receive the service. When it's too good to be true, IT'S A RIP OFF.
You can find some good deals with escorts and girls who are straight and not out to rip you off. But in this town, I'm not seen to many good deals unless you pay $$ and up and you must check out the service provider at The Erotic Review and see if she has good reviews or not worth the $ and time.
Personally the best city I've had good service was in Columbus, Ohio. There were lots of OSU girls working as escorts and going to school. I had girls that were in Law School and in the Medical program at OSU. At the time their rates were anywhere from 1.25 up to 1.75 and hour.
Also while I'm thinking of it, If an escort comes to you're place with a driver who ask for the money up front before the girl comes into your place SHUT THE DOOR. Tell them no deal.
My advice is to really research these escorts out at any review site and know before you pay. It's like when you buy a car at any dealership if you don't research the car and know all about it and what's a fair deal the auto saleman will rip you off.
Remember, you want to be in control at all times. Either with a SW, Escort, or even at an AMP.
Hope this helps,
HARPO2U
Alright guys, this will make things interesting...
I was down in the 'Nati today, and ran into Marie. She told me something that totally blew my mind...SAUNA IS NOT DEAD!
Apparently, she was severely beaten at the hands of her ex, who she snitched on to avoid catching a case. As a result, she is in pprotective custody, and her death was used as a cover.
Just thought you would like to know..any info wanted, PM me.
Lori: new to me, slim pickings otherwise
[Been out of town for a while--horrified at the (erroneous?) report of Sauna's demise. Do I now correctly understand that she WAS beaten up severely, but not fatally? If anyone has the CORRECT story on this, I would like to hear it. Many of us have a warm spot in our hearts for Sauna, and wish her the best...]
So, on a recent rainy day, circled MANY times through OTR. VERY slim pickings. I DID see a white middle class woman with an umbrella taking lots of digital pictures in the Elder, Vine, McMillian area. Couldn't help but wonder what she was up to.
Saw only two SWs, one with white and blue tie-dyed top--not there the second time around, and one with a big umbrella: Lori.
Lori looks about 30 or so, did not know most of the standard SWs, but did say that she knew that Sauna had been seriously beaten up. She said something about seeing pictures the cops had taken of her after the beating (how was that???) She said she knew nothing of the rest of the various stories being passed around.
She wanted to offer only CBJ for 0.2, but agreed to BBBJ, but with no CIM, and lots of HJ... (She only got a 0.02 tip.) Fairly nice personality, but HATES CIM, won't do it. ("Makes me throw up..") Looks 7, personality 8, technique... well--you know... She complained that other girls were making it hard on her by doing CIM...
She said she LIKES rainy days because the cops are less likely to hastle her. I would not go out of my way to find her again--but she seems decent on personal level.
So--what action IS there these days? Anyone?
Giani
Just Stopped By For A Quick Post ....
[b]BEFORE I START .... HAS ANYONE BEEN CHECKING OUT THE PIX FROM "SAN DIEGO". DAMNNNNNN .... THAT SO UNFAIR, SO UNFAIR, TO HAVE ALL THAT GOLD JUST WALKING AROUND AVAILABLE IN THE U.S.A. . And Seattle ain't bad either. MAN I NEED TO TAKE A ROAD TRIP.
Weeeeellll, Sauna is alive, I saw her a few days ago, but it looked like she was carring all her life's valuables around with her, and no place to go. I felt sorry for her, even though we had a quick falling out. She let that DogFood get the best of her. She LooKed BAD .... Very Bad, and not because of the Beating, but due to the Drug especially. The drugs will soon due what her biyfriend tried to do.
I heard that Martha had HIV, but after getting some more reiable info, I don't beleive it. Just a few HATERS including Pocohaus, outting out bad info on her. I have yet to see her out, and I was told she was still in the J.C.
.... I did hear "SHORTBODY" really does have AIDS, and has some kind of papers out on her to prove it. I am NOT certain of what that means, but watch out for HER.
Task force is still in OTR, so don't think they have moved just because the NEWS says they are now in Walnut Hills. I saw a lot of bicycle cops patroling.
Welcome Back G-Man. Hope you have a new memory stick for more pix.
THE CINCY BOARD HAS BEEN RATHER SILENT .... Folks are being Cautious !!!
I guess I will have to go to Adult Friend Finders for some Action.
C Ya SooN .... Boyzzz !!!!
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Here is the (fantastical) CityBeat story....
While there are many elements of truth in the recent CityBeat story, it drips with hyperbole...:
[url]http://www.citybeat.com/2006-07-05/cover.shtml[/url]
I mean... with the collective experience of ALL the mongers on this board, who EVER paid 0.02 for "everything...?" Sheesh. Give me a break. And the repeated "anonymous" fantastical tales are obviously either made up or repeated without critical evaluation for truth. (Sorry--like SWs are known for telling the truth straight up...) Yea, right--he picks up the same girl the next day and she is SO relieved to see that it is him again... This reporter should be ashamed.
It is a disappointment to see CityBeat engaging in the same hyperbolic half truth reporting that the gossip rags engage in... This from a newspaper in which I had expected a higher standard. Com'on...
Tell the story straight--and you will be believed. There ARE sad tales of girls addicted and degraded, but not all, and not *in extremis* as the reporter suggests. If a reporter engages in such elaborate stretching of the truth, no one will embrace the story except the neo-cons of the religious right, because he has provided virulent propaganda for their crusade...
On the OTHER HAND... I have been asking for years on this board for hot spots elsewhere in the city to cruise. No one was willing to post them. And now, according to CityBeat:
Most popular street prostitution sites in Cincinnati:
キ Over-the-Rhine: Elm, Race, McMicken, Vine, Liberty, Walnut and associated alleys and side streets
キ Lower Price Hill: State Avenue near Eighth Street and Glenway Avenue near Warsaw Avenue
キ Walnut Hills: Lincoln Avenue near Gilbert Avenue
キ Avondale: Reading Road
キ Roselawn: Reading Road
Thanks, CityBeat.
One more thing which galls... CityBeat makes money on the ads which girls place for "services rendered" in the back of CityBeat... These rip-off artists frequently steal clients blind (just look at some of the posts in the past 6 months). How about an article about the scams those girls pull with the assistance of CityBeat???
Feeling a bit pissed these days--could you tell?
Giani
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A few pix from last month...
I asked if you wanted to see more when I posted a sampling from this episode. I was crest-fallen when no one asked for more... Maybe you knew that I would post the rest even without a request???
So... Here they are. She is a sweetheart of OTR--may she be treated with the kindness she deserves.
Giani
One more that the system woukld not let me upload...
Chalk it up to my ignorance--I wanted to blur the face a bit, and the board would not let me...
So here is S_2 for you... [NOT]
You like?
Giani
P.S. What the f**k??? I keep trying to post this picture, with no luck. Anyone have an idea why I can upload it??? I was able to load the three images, then I was worried that S_2 had too much clarity--so I blurred it--and now I can't upload it AT ALL!!
Maybe I'll try later...
Post the agency, its phone, and her "name!" Are SWs LESS dependable than escorts???
Sooo sorry to hear about your Cincy experience. My firm belief is that escorts are WAY over rated--and while I grant that SWs are a hit or miss affair, it is less painful to be ripped off of 0.2 than 2.0! For that reason, I never use escorts--and therefore never post reviews of them. Occasionally, someone will have a good experience and post it, but rarely.
You need to post every bit of info you can about this rip-off agency: Their name, their phone number, her "name". You probably know that one of the first rules of mongering is NEVER pay up front. MAYBE a "deposit" of 1/3rd total, the rest to be paid afterward.
Here is a list of 13 rules I have put together for mongering, especially picking up SWs, but most would apply to escorts as well...:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=435187#post435187[/url]
BTW, I am quite interested in your experiences in UAE. Prices, activities, time, attractiveness, etc. I KNOW it is more expensive, but do you get what you pay for?
I presume no SWs in UAE...
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[QUOTE=Ohio29]Normally I confine all my mongering activities to UAE (if you have not read the threads on that country then you are missing out on something) but this time I was in the US for an extended trip and last Thursday I was in Cinci overnight and got to the hotel early after having one too many beers so I was feeling real horny. Picked up the yellow pages and saw quite a few ads on Entertainers so I called up one and it appeared to be quite easy to get an escort so I asked for a blonde lady which they said they would send over to my hotel shortly. While I waiting I also checked on the forum to read any reports and was surprised not to find any reports on these entertainers and now I know why.
The girl arrived about an hour later and she was all right looking but at this time I was not thinking straight. The girl demanded $200 for an hour and after confirming everything I gave her the money. Now in the UAE most of the time I pay later but even if I pay before there is never any issue. Anyway this girl was a swindler and said that for me to get naked with her I would have to pay $100 more so I immediately knew that this was not going right and I told her that she is a bloody fraud. After that she said that don't come near me or I will call the police and ran out of my room. I chased her down the hallway which was a bad idea as she created a real commotion in the hallway banging on room doors and screaming for help. Naturally I was in a real hopless situation when a couple of people opened their doors. By this time I figured that this is just going to lead to more damage so gave up on the situation and just let her go. I was really pissed off but quite shaken also from this whole incident.
I do not understand why this whole business is run by con artists and frauds in this country. I have travelled extensively in the world especially in Asia and even used yellow pages to call up escorts and never had any trouble.
This was my first attempt at mongering in the US and definitely my last. I wish that some more people had written about these frauds in the forum so that a few members like us could have had a head up.[/QUOTE]
M*****a: lovely red-head: nothing but positive reviews...
It is a shame that we can't be more explicit these days on the board--the M*****a, the red head was a wonderful woman to meet today.
Found in the major OTR loop, saw her several times, found her again after Findlay Market.
What a fine time we had together. Her technique could hardly be better. Thank you, Lord...
Giani
Take A Different Approach !!!!
[b]HONESTLY .... I am holding back due to the HEAT and so many of our Regular Favorites being picked up. So how either there is a Big Time Snitch at work or the Police are just grabbing everyone for any reason. And many have had to go a little underground, to avoid probation problems.
I did show one of our favorites all dressed up, going to one of the Clubs/Bar in OTR. I mean with HighHeels, Dress, MakeUp, the Whole Nine Years. I gave her a ride to her designation, after a Real Quickie, which was worth the TIME. This was one of the more SEXY encounters I have had since a few of our girls use to dress up regularly, a few years back. No Pix .... it was Night and the area was HOT. To use a flash might look like a gunshot. If she has minute
(Ya, Right !!!!) we will do this again, during the day, because she wanted to take pix all dressed up.
She has finally found she can make more at the CLUB/Bars over a weekend, with the right MEN, over on Main, and at the Levee, than she can in a Week, in OTR & WE, and it is Safer. She is worjing several other girls together.
In that area who care if someone is Screwing in the Parking Garage or LOTs.
Half Drunk and Horny Young MEN will pay theough the nose for a back seat drop.
As far as the DAYTIME streets for SW action the streets were bare. You saw the Action with the of the Crack Down and this is the results. Things are almost at a stand still. I have seen a few new girls in the area, at out of the way spots. Threy are running from the regular spots, to the irregular spots.
A few Harecores are out, but I have been warned several times that they are working with the Police, to catch Drug Dealers and other SW's to transform them into Snitches. I don't knw if that includes telling on their Customers, for that is their Money supply .... I would hope "NOT." They don't get PAID for snitching .... they only get to stay out of Jail, and billing and Habits have to be "PAID."
WARNING TO ALL ....
.......The "POLICE" in OTR/WE are giving out "BOGUS" TICKETS and Warning. A Cop tried to give out two BOGUS tickets over by Finley to two friends of ours, while we were standing there. Once the Cop realized we all were together, that person(s) had (4) witnesses, he decided to make it a warning ticket.
...I think they are doing this to avoid Racial Profiling charges, for BogusStops.
In this way they can get a LOOK SEE at YOU, Your Car, and Who is in IT, and a good Smell out of your Window for Dope and Alcohol.
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[QUOTE=Giani]Still trying to post a picture... Yea!!! It looks like it let me post it this time.
Hey--Word--tag, you're it... Let's see what pix YOU have to share... ;-)
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Foolish Mistakes .... Foolish Solutions ????
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HEY OHIO 29,
.... Next time why don't you holla, "She Stoled My Money" and let the Police get involved. She truly does not want that "SERIOUSLY", and the Police probably already have her on file, so they would know you are telling the truth.
IT WILL CREATE A SCENE, and create maybe more attention than you want, but someone could have called the Police anyway, and created a scene, and she would have been long gone. The Police know the deal, they just want to catch the girl doing it. Call Vice and report her number/Escort Service.
.... I bet if you could get a stack of Fake Twenties, to pay her, at the beginning, and gave her the real money after the service is provided, then you could save yourself a world of trouble. BUT don't ever get caught with that counterfeit money, then you would be in a World of Trouble.
..... TWO it sounds FooLish but try tearing the billing in half and she can get the other half once service are rendered. I use to do that in Detroit, especially at the Hotel in Highland Park. IN THIS WAY, withouit the other half the money is no good to anyone, and the bank will take the moneyas the teo halves match.
[color=red] or .... YOU CAN NEVER EVER USE AN ESCORT SERVICE HERE IN THE U.S.A. .... ESPECIALLY CINCINNATI, and Northern Ky.
They have ALWAYS been a "RIP-OFF" here as well as the N.Ky. Strip Bars.
.... NOT ALL PLACES, SERVICES, and AREAs .... ARE THE SAME, IN and OUT OF THE U.S.A. ....
[b]ALWAYS .... ALWAYS, GET ALL THE DETAILS FIRST ....
NEVER EVER ....GIVE OUT MONEY FIRST, NO MATTER WHAT .....
ASSUME ....YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GET "RIP-OFF" .......
NEVER EVER ....LET THE SW LET WITH YOUR MONEY and NO SERVICE ... FIRST !!!!
NEVER EVER ....LEAVE THE SW IN YOUR ROOM ALONE, or EVEN CLOSE THE DOOR TO TAKE A PISS.
NEVER EVER EVER .... LEAVE YOUR DOOR UNLOCKED, or LET THE SW LOCK YOUR DOOR FOR YOU. There could be Trouble waiting to ambush you at some point. Even when she is leaving, check the PeepHole, and take a quick look outside the door.
AND .... Keep Your Real Money Seperate from your Play Time Money .... !!!!
ALL THIS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW, SO I SHOULD SOUND FOOLISH TELLING REGULARS PLAYERS THIS PART OF THE GAME.
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JUST BETTER THAN NOTHING "SUGESTIONS"
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[QUOTE=Ohio29]Giani,
The only thing I have is the escort agency's number which is 513-688-1486. The name of the girl would anyway be useless as she probably never did give her real name.
With regards to UAE, Dubai is close to becoming the sex capital of the world after Bangkok, Thailand. You can get girls from pretty much all parts of the world but the trade is dominated by the Russians and the Chinese. Due to a serious oversupply in the market the prices range from $50 for ST to $500 for LT. In majority of the cases you can get an excellent GFE for about $150 for the whole night. In the majority of my experiences the service I have gotten has been to my expectations or better, especially with the Russians as their sexual liberation is uncompared to any other nationality that I know of. Even a $50 ST can prove to be quite a memorable experience and I have never heard of anyone getting ripped of or there being any con artists. There have been a few african girls who have not delivered all that they promised but nothing like what happened to me in Cinci.
There are a few SW's also but the majority can be found in the numerous bars and clubs in town. In fact it has now become difficult to go into a bar in Dubai for a relaxing beer without being accosted by a WG.
Your are right that I should have been more smart with the escort agency girl but at that time too many beers had fogged my brain and I was too horny to be thinking straight.[/QUOTE]
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I STILL think you may have the intersection wrong...
There have been LOTS of news reports about and LE at the intersection of Race and McMicken. However, according to a TV report last night, LE is especially zeroing in on drug dealers ("Operation Vortex"). They have had spotters on the roofs of buildings, taking pictures of drug deals going down. (The report showed exchanges.) The report even told which specific intersections to go for crack, for heroin or for grass!
Yes--LE is still heavily present in OTR. Caution, caution, caution.
Review the 13 rules for mongering to reduce your risk.
Here is a Google Earth shot of the intersection of Race and McMicken (obviously no news to LE...)
Giani
[QUOTE=Harpo2u]My earlier report stated LE at the corner of Plum St and Micmicken. That was incorrect. The corner I meant to point out was at Elm St and Micmicken.
Sorry guys
Harpo2U[/QUOTE]
She, It, What Did You A Favor ....
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[b]I do "NOT" think that was a woman of any kind. She did you a favor by disappearing. During the day I see them on Elm near the market, and at night they are all over Elm pass Finley, and down McMik. The Cops see them as a "JOKE" and just move them along. They are NOT selling drug, so the Cops never bother. They just use them .... More or Less !!!!
I saw to walk pass as I was talking to a Young Lady, last weekend, and if you saw them from behind you would think they were REAL WOMEN.
BUT FROM THE FRONT YOU KNEW BETTER .... and they had the 4-5 inch highheels and all.
I TOLD YOU BOYZ DON'T GO FOR THE FADE .... LE NEVER LEFT OTR or WE.
They just expanded operations. Read the reports, and know the RULES.
AND BELIEVE IT or NOT SOME OF YOUR FAVORITES ARE WORKING WITH THE COP. NOT FOR JOHN REPORTS FOR THAT IS THEIR MONEY, but FOR DRUG DEALERS. That will surely get some of the girlz HURT. LOOK AT SAUNA !!!!
WORD .... !!!!
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[QUOTE=Giani]Some folks like 'em dressed and on the street: Here is long tall Sally. By the time I went around the block, she was gone. Dressed the part, but not so sure about the dewrag...
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A good dream--a better ending
I had a dream yesterday. I dreamt I was in OTR, and met this girl called Summer. Picked her up, and we went to the Fulton. .5 got me good sex with A tanned and toned young girl of 26. Afterwards, we got to talking, and I found out she went to the same school I did, but graduated 6 byears later than me. I am wondering if I am weird in that I now feel guilty about dating a person from my hometown? Anyhoo, look her up, but be careful.
BLB
Just Good Uncommon Sense !!!!
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Man I heard about the Crack Down in Hamilton. Just a few years ago I use to see a Young Lady near the White Castle, about 2-3 blocks from that Trailer park. She was worth the TRIP and TIME.
Still even then the LE, cruised the area heavy, even before I realized the area was HOT for SW action. The girls never looked worth the time, especially since I was there for "FREEBIES."
ANYWAY .... You used GooD Uncommon Sense. The SW was being Too Obvious, and attacted way too much attention. She was a Hazzard to Herself and anyone who picked her up.
YOU DID THE RIGHT THING .... FOLKS IN OTR & W.E., and everywhere else,
should take "WARNING/NOTICE". And, "STOP" having these SW Rush Up or Holler at your car, while you are passing through. They make your car stand out, and if the LE is looking from the roof tops, they see it/YOU, TOO !!!!
WORD .... !!!!
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[QUOTE=SCUM123]Cincinnati Fella's,
I posted this in the Hamilton, Oh page but thought better to ask the boys further down south, their thoughts. Thanks for responces in advance.
Found myself near East Avenue area today on my way home, anyway so I decided to a look. Nothing going on east or 11th street, so I went down Ludlow and cut over to Maple via S. 7th street and there on the corner was a mid to late 20 something bouncing on the corner. She was wearing shorts & a bright Pink shirt, she was lifting and lowering it and strutting around like she was showing her wears. Not seeing her before this kind of made me nervous, because she was calling a lot of attention to herself, which made me more nervous because it was like she wanted to be noticed more than she wanted to be picked up. I知 pretty sure I知 just being paranoid, but with the recent sweep in Hamilton, just feel like I better have my guard up. I split from the area and took care of what I needed to, so about 45 minutes later I thought I would take another look, and of course she was gone. I知 pretty sure that she is just another one that got away, but my gut is still telling me that I did the right thing.
Sorry for double posting on two boards.
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