[QUOTE=TimeWaster]Can someone explain what a table shower is?[/QUOTE]
Think sponge bath...
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[QUOTE=TimeWaster]Can someone explain what a table shower is?[/QUOTE]
Think sponge bath...
[QUOTE=Haywoo Jablome]Would you believe the average age in this place is 35-37? Young pussy is scarce in the U.S. The expats here are all veteran players from days gone by.[/QUOTE]Damn that really sucks.
I was planning to head there this weekend.
The website shows the girls in their early 20's. So are they lying?
[QUOTE=TimeWaster]Can someone explain what a table shower is?[/QUOTE]
When I went to my first massage parlor (The Oasis, Broadway, NYC) in July 1974 the standard was the regular stand up shower, usually solo. My first table shower was at a legal brothel in Nevada in the 1980's. A Japanese lady gave me a table shower, then on to the main event with the American provider. WGS apparently still has an arrangement something like this. In the last couple of decades Korean Massage Parlors have dominated the industry. When Waterbury was shut down this year there were 10 Korean Massage Parlors, none of any other kind. Table showers are a fixture of KMPs.
When the Korean masseuse returns to the massage room after you've undressed, she will usually ask you if you want a shower, meaning a table shower. You don a robe or a towel and go to a specially constructed table shower room. Usually the "door" is just a waterproof curtain. Walls and floors will be tiled. There will be a circular drain in the middle of the floor. There will usually be buckets, and often sponges or loofahs. On the wall you will see a shiny array of chrome plumbing with a spray attachment. The central feature of the room will be the shower table. It is pretty much like the massage table, but with no opening for the face. It is generally dark brown, covered with a waterproof vinyl or such. A cushion, towell, or flexible cube will be in place for a headrest.
The masseuse will usually hose down the table. Or she might splash a couple of bucketfuls of water on it. Then she says "You lie face down" or the equivalent. She might wash you with a sponge, a loofah, or with her bare hands. She generally starts with the shoulders and arms and works her way down. Everything is thoroughly scrubbed, even the crack of the ass. Sometimes the anus will be delved into. Then she says "turn over" by which point you may be hard or well on the way. Often she will home right in on the old cock and balls, thoroughly washing and inspecting them. She will slide the foreskin down if you have one to clean the glans. Chest, front of thighs, everything from the neck down will be washed as well. She wants you clean, she wants you smelling good, and she wants to see if you have any health issues like lesions or chancres on the penis.
Then she has you sit up. She might wipe down your face with a washcloth at this point. She might give you a shampoo. Then you stand up and she towels you off thoroughly. She might bring you a cup of mouthwash which you are to spit down the drain in the floor. Back on with robe or towel and back to the room. Usually the Korean girl who gives you the table shower will be the one who gives you the massage, but not always.
I've never had a sponge bath. Are they fun? - Double Nickle
Count me out on the table shower. No offense guys, but who knows which one of you were on there last. No LOL since this is not a laughing matter. In our hobby, if you're not cafefull to a point of obsession, you can come down with some funky stuff. Just look at the photo section.
I'm proud to say I have never been blessed with and type of STD, not even crabs. Now I'm sure there are plenty of mongers out there with more than thier share of "combat wounds"
I don't wear the slippers or robe. I wear a towel. I stand while she uses her hands only (more erotic anyway) and liquid soap. I'm sure you've all seen short hairs on the soap.... Standing lets you stick your dick close to her face anyway. Her reaction can be a good look ahead at what to expect.
Getting her clothes wet is also a good excuse to talk her into getting NEKKID! Always working the angles for the ultimate results..........
If I'm Sticky - I'm usually Happy
Along with that stupid little soft scrubby that has been in the crack of everyone`s A** around town! Not me
I'm definitely with you on this subject stick.
Happy Hunting
AJ
[QUOTE=Sticky]Count me out on the table shower. No offense guys, but who knows which one of you were on there last. No LOL since this is not a laughing matter. In our hobby, if you're not cafefull to a point of obsession, you can come down with some funky stuff. Just look at the photo section.
I'm proud to say I have never been blessed with and type of STD, not even crabs. Now I'm sure there are plenty of mongers out there with more than thier share of "combat wounds"
I don't wear the slippers or robe. I wear a towel. I stand while she uses her hands only (more erotic anyway) and liquid soap. I'm sure you've all seen short hairs on the soap.... Standing lets you stick your dick close to her face anyway. Her reaction can be a good look ahead at what to expect.
Getting her clothes wet is also a good excuse to talk her into getting NEKKID! Always working the angles for the ultimate results..........
If I'm Sticky - I'm usually Happy[/QUOTE]
Decided to check out GS on Sat afternoon. I called ahead to see if my favorite girl Nicole was there, but apparently she's back in Korea. I decided to go ahead and take my chances with someone new though.
When I arrived I was pleasantly surprised to see that the setup has changed. Now the available girls come out so you can see them before choosing. In the past, I was always just assigned a girl and had to live with what they gave me (unless I called ahead a specifically requested someone). This way is definitely better.
Three girls came out and unfortunately there were no clear winners. All were just okay, and all were probaby mid thirties. I chose Jeanie based on an earlier review and it turned out to be a good choice. The ts was not rushed and the massage was very good. Kissing was part of her warm up routine and was nice change. Roaming was not restricted at all. Overall, nice session and good attitude. I would repeat.
Just got into NYC on Saturday night and read the threads here and thought I try out GS. Location was easy to find. Did not call ahead, and was assigned a girl, Hanna. She was about late 20s, enhanced B/C, very polite and enthuisatic. TS was not rushed, and she gave a very good cleaning in all areas. Massage was VERY good, stong and firm. No restrictions on roaming and was quite into kissing too. Allowed me to suck on her nips, which was a perfect size for me, not too big or small. She can speak some English and I found it quite a pleasant time talking to her while she massaged. Her ending was very good too, unrushed and gave lots of attention. After cleaning up, more massage. First time I actually had an hour worth of massage, most would end after cleaning. Will visit again, but too bad, leaving NYC tonight.
[QUOTE=TimeWaster]anyone tried this place?
[url]http://www.newyorksensual.com[/url]
I called and the women said $200/hour which seems very steep.
Would you have to tip in addition to the $200 to get FS?
I asked her but her english was not good and she did not understand me.[/QUOTE]
First, you should never ask the question that you did over the phone, since you are asking a question that implies illegal activity. The woman at the other end has no idea who you are, whether or not you are LE, so she certainly isn't going to give you a truthful answer over the phone. She probably speaks decent English but pretended to not understand you as a cover.
I've never been to this particular place, which clearly seems to be an AMP from the photos (despite the lack of Asian-ness in the name), but I seem to recall hearing that it's legitimate for at least a HJ. No guarantee that you'll get FS, but if you do, I would assume that a tip above and beyond the $200 would be necessary - this is New York, after all.
I had to chuckle at the names that were given to some of the girls whose photos are shown on the web site, including "Nabi" and "Dabi."
[QUOTE=TimeWaster]Damn that really sucks.
I was planning to head there this weekend.
The website shows the girls in their early 20's. So are they lying?[/QUOTE]
Actually the web site does not say anything about the girls' ages, so no, they are not lying. Yes, several of the girls' bodies look pretty good in the photos posted on the website, but I can assure you that none of them are in their 20s, they are all in their mid-30s.
Someone here on USASG once referred to the "Asian anti-aging gene" and that applies here.
Check out the Norwalk, CT board and read the post about the recent bust of one of the AMPs there, the Nirvana Spa - all of the girls who worked at the AMP were in their late 30s or 40s:
[I]"Nirvana workers charged with prostitution and conspiracy are: Ipbonn "Pepsi" Tooley, 38; Sum Duk "Cherry" Park, 39; Chalhye "June" Kim, 47; Keum Hae "Lea" Ko, 41; Kil Cha "Angie" Park, 38; and Kyong Suk "Jenn" Ju, 36. Each woman was held on $15,000 bond."[/I]
I visited my first AMP back in 1989 (Tokyo Spa in Hartford, CT) and had a great session with a large-breasted lady named "Coco" who was probably in her early 30s then. She looked great even though she had two kids, then aged 7 and 9. Well, "Coco" is still working at an AMP in CT (not Tokyo, it closed in 1994) under a different name, and her tits and face still look great even though she's now close to 50 years old, if not older.
So don't let the ages prevent you from going to an AMP - most Korean women in their mid-to-late 30s can be great at FS, oral, etc.
MS,
Nabi & Dabi, would they be twins?? That would work for me.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]First, you should never ask the question that you did over the phone, since you are asking a question that implies illegal activity. The woman at the other end has no idea who you are, whether or not you are LE, so she certainly isn't going to give you a truthful answer over the phone. She probably speaks decent English but pretended to not understand you as a cover.
I've never been to this particular place, which clearly seems to be an AMP from the photos (despite the lack of Asian-ness in the name), but I seem to recall hearing that it's legitimate for at least a HJ. No guarantee that you'll get FS, but if you do, I would assume that a tip above and beyond the $200 would be necessary - this is New York, after all.
I had to chuckle at the names that were given to some of the girls whose photos are shown on the web site, including "Nabi" and "Dabi."[/QUOTE]Actually, all I asked was, "is a tip required in addition to the $200".
Eventhough I'm new to this, i know enough not to ask about Full Service over the phone.
Also, when u click on each of the girls, each of the girls age is listed and they all list around 21-24 yrs old
This is a followup to my posting #157 on here.
I went to Manhattan/NYC (my 1st visit) about 1 week ago.
However, my plans changed, as I ended up bringing a kinky chinese **** of my own along with me on the trip. She lives in my city and has a sister living Manhattan, so I thought I can pay her airfare (it was cheap, about $300 RT/NonStop; Hell I'm paying $400/night just for my hotel room so airfare is relatively cheap), and in return she and I will sex it up in the Hotel in the evenings and hit some bars together when I'm not busy with business. That was the plan, and that's exactly what happened.
This meant I had no free time or energy to seek around for action in Chinatown or other places.
With this said, I do want to point out that I was on Lexington Ave and crossing 49th Street at about 7pm. This is the corner that the "W" Hotel is sitting.
A blonde SW tried to catch my attention by striking up a little conversation, but I was in a hurry to get back to my hotel (my chinese **** had SMS'ed to my mobile "Tie me tonight? I bought rope at store!"), so I didn't talk the blonde SW to find out her rate or anything.
Also, about 5 feet from her and using the "W" Hotel overhang as a covering was another white girl, this one wearing short shortie pants; possibly another SW using her cellphone, who looked more petite, possibly more attractive, but I didn't stop my walking.
I guess it's possible they could have also been undercover cops? I really don't know the Manhattan scene, though there is a chance I might come back for another visit in November or December; depending on how last weeks business meetings went.
I mostly wanted to pass on the information about possible SW girls on Lexington and 49th Street (at the "W" Hotel).
Dar
[QUOTE=TimeWaster]Actually, all I asked was, "is a tip required in addition to the $200".
Eventhough I'm new to this, i know enough not to ask about Full Service over the phone.
Also, when u click on each of the girls, each of the girls age is listed and they all list around 21-24 yrs old[/QUOTE]In the current climate, you are better off not using the phone at all.
The girls ages are plausible lies because Korean women age well. Take the plunge - you will very likely find them plenty youthful looking and smooth-skinned.
I visited Manhatten a few weeks ago and visited the famous Lucky Footsie that everyone talks about. Indeed, it is very hard to get extras from the girls but trust me, you can get everything if you are nice to them. You need to develop a bond with the girl first then you will get extras after each visit.
I was able to get FS with one of the girls but I can't give out he name. Two hints to get FS: frequent visit and bring your own protection.
Enjoy...
PD
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]First, you should never ask the question that you did over the phone, since you are asking a question that implies illegal activity. The woman at the other end has no idea who you are, whether or not you are LE, so she certainly isn't going to give you a truthful answer over the phone. She probably speaks decent English but pretended to not understand you as a cover.
I've never been to this particular place, which clearly seems to be an AMP from the photos (despite the lack of Asian-ness in the name), but I seem to recall hearing that it's legitimate for at least a HJ. No guarantee that you'll get FS, but if you do, I would assume that a tip above and beyond the $200 would be necessary - this is New York, after all.
I had to chuckle at the names that were given to some of the girls whose photos are shown on the web site, including "Nabi" and "Dabi."[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately they will definitely expect a tip afterwards.
Stopped by Rainbow Spa the other night. Was greeted at the door by Yang?, a Japanese woman. Looks and body looked to be both 6. A petite woman, with b cups and age appeared to be in the early to mid 30’s. Her english was not good, I had trouble communicating with her as I was asking what other girls were available. I figured she was the only one available, so I went along with it. I asked for a table shower even though she said I didn’t need one. Paid seventy for a one hour massage and table shower. The table shower was a bit fast, uninspired and non sensual at all. She avoided all the good places.
Since she as a bit older, I’d figured she would be more experienced at giving massages. I was right; the massage was surprisingly good, I was not expecting a good massage at all. It was a complete head to toe massage. Pre-flip she blew her breath all over my body and ran her nails and fingers all over, and around the butt crack. It was great, unfortunately, it was short. On the flip, she did a but more of the same thing and when it was time, she said “down there?”. I nodded in approval and she immediately began negotiating with me. I stuck out four fingers, all this time trying to be very discrete since the walls do not go all the way up, you do not have a lot of privacy and can hear things all over the place. When she started negotiating, that really killed the mood but I was able to stay firm at forty, promising her with the “more next time" line.
I was able to roam otc but that’s about it…didn’t try for more; wasn’t too thrilled about the negotiating part. The release was ok…at first it was mechanical, I had to tell her to slow down. After slowing down, she used decent technique up until I popped. Since I’m a squirter, it was nice of her to use her hand to block things. I think some landed on my chest, and a drop or two on my face. Next came the standard hot towel cleanup and a bit more massaging of the legs and head. All and all, a poor table shower, a good massage, and a good ending. The negotiating really killed the mood. I would have to think twice about going there next time, unless I end up with a different attendant.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Actually the web site does not say anything about the girls' ages, so no, they are not lying. Yes, several of the girls' bodies look pretty good in the photos posted on the website, but I can assure you that none of them are in their 20s, they are all in their mid-30s.
Someone here on USASG once referred to the "Asian anti-aging gene" and that applies here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TimeWaster]... when u click on each of the girls, each of the girls age is listed and they all list around 21-24 yrs old[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I missed the fact that the girls' fake ages were in fact on the web site.
It's part of the marketing - an AMP or MP is guaranteed to attract customers if they advertise that the girls are "college girls" or in their early 20s, and in the case of the Korean girls, they can easily fool us guys, so why not lie? Heck, it's better than using as an advertising slogan "all of our girls are card-carrying members of AARP."
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]I visited my first AMP back in 1989 (Tokyo Spa in Hartford, CT) and had a great session with a large-breasted lady named "Coco" who was probably in her early 30s then. She looked great even though she had two kids, then aged 7 and 9. Well, "Coco" is still working at an AMP in CT (not Tokyo, it closed in 1994) under a different name, and her tits and face still look great even though she's now close to 50 years old, if not older.
So don't let the ages prevent you from going to an AMP - most Korean women in their mid-to-late 30s can be great[/QUOTE]
Speaking of AARP (you have to be 50 to join, and yes, I'm a member) unfortunately I may have accidentally jinxed "Coco" - just heard over the weekend that her HJ-only AMP in CT got busted the other day, and she (age 53 according to the arrest report) and her 63-year-old co-worker got arrested for prostitution. Yes, 63! Glad to see that LE is focusing their efforts on serious criminals.
Pleasure Dude,
How may visits befor you were able to get FS at Footsie and how much did it run you in total?
BH
I have been to Lucky Footsie 8 times, three of which I've posted. Obviously I like it very much or I wouldn't come back. However, I've never received FS (full service) there. Let us not forget that this is a legitimate therapy place with certificates and diplomas on the wall. The staff are well trained in the disciplines of Hand and Foot Reflexology, and Qi Gong Tui-Na - "Chinese backrub" to the semi-literate. I always feel like I'm walking on air after my session. A "Happy Ending" is not automatic but the masseuse will probably provide one if you desire it. If you are a pleasant and polite repeat customer a girl may promote you to "boyfriend" status. Do not forget that not all girlfriends give full service. Those of you whose pre-teen daughters have boyfriends are probably happy about this. If you think your "girlfriend" may go all the way be sure to bring your own condom as they do not keep any here.
I've only seen three "girls" here lately. And the second floor which is not a part of Lucky Footsie now has a metal grill that is kept closed when this floor is not open. New signs to the other (second floor) place read "Members Only" and "Private Club." Anybody have any further information on the changes?
Double Nickle
Well, I struck out looking on a visit to LF the other night. After more than a little walking, I arrived and went in the open first door. Rang the second door buzzer repeatedly and was let in. I was greeted at the third floor door by an older Chinese man - not a good sign. Also in the lobby were another man and an older lady (50s). She asked if I wanted the man to give me a foot massage. I said no, I would like a massage and pointed to my back. She replied that "no, we don't have that; just man".
So that was that. There were no signs of other ladies or anyone else at all around, so I just left. I was so beat at that point that if I had only received a nice massage, w/o any extras at all, I wouldn't have had a complaint.
I wasn't shocked, as other posts (even before the latest one from Double Nickle) had indicated YMMV. The only obvious reason I can think of is that I may have arrived too late (~11pm).
So, add my brief experience to DN's authoritative post: YMMV. If you are really after FS only, you will probably be better served elsewhere.
Vito
[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]I visited Manhatten a few weeks ago and visited the famous Lucky Footsie that everyone talks about. Indeed, it is very hard to get extras from the girls but trust me, you can get everything if you are nice to them. You need to develop a bond with the girl first then you will get extras after each visit.
I was able to get FS with one of the girls but I can't give out he name. Two hints to get FS: frequent visit and bring your own protection.
Enjoy...
PD[/QUOTE]Ok, whoever said a HJ is not guaranteed. I have no idea where you get that idea from. But I was told they have to ask you if you want it, as have had some cust go beserk when touched on their peepee without permission.
Fs? I have a hard time picturing fs with any of them (well, except perhaps one). But as to how hard is it to get? Using my imagination I would say not too hard when several of the girls give their massages while wearing a skirt and no panties.
Oh no, Virile Vito, I'm sorry about that. I was at Lucky Footsie again today and only saw one girl, but she took good care of me. If no girl is available there are many other massage places within a few blocks. Manhattan has hundreds of massage parlors, maybe more than anywhere else on Earth. The greatest concentration in Manhattan is probably in Chinatown.
Walking back to the subway from LF I went via Pell, Mott, and Bayard. I saw many other massage places on that route. If I hadn't already shot my wad I probably would have stopped in one of them. I love the signs, "Best Foot and Back Rub for Men and Women," "Qi Kung," "Qi Gong," "Chinese Back Rub," etc., etc. Sometimes they are by themselves, sometimes with Acupuncture, or a Beauty Salon.
I had walked into Lucky Footsie today soaking wet from the rain. They set me up with a loaner set of clean dry clothes and dried my wet clothes in a drier. If I have to wait they usually hand me a cup of water and a newspaper (they all read the New York Post in English). Besides the usual elements of a session (see my previous posts), today the girl gave me a pedicure as well. And she handed me an umbrella on my way out to keep me dry on my way home. New York Chinatown is Massage Heaven in my book. May it always remain so.
Double Nickle
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Speaking of AARP (you have to be 50 to join, and yes, I'm a member) unfortunately I may have accidentally jinxed "Coco" - just heard over the weekend that her HJ-only AMP in CT got busted the other day, and she (age 53 according to the arrest report) and her 63-year-old co-worker got arrested for prostitution. Yes, 63! Glad to see that LE is focusing their efforts on serious criminals.[/QUOTE]I went to this AMP in July and had a fantastic session with a lady who I suspect was your "CoCo." She had a splendid set of natural knockers on her. She went all the way with me so I got to see her totally naked. She looked delicious - trim waist but killer curves. I guessed she was older, but just from the subtlest of clues. Assuming she was the lady of whom you speak, her 17 plus years in AMPs only made her better. She went at it as enthusiastically as a bunny and had a great skill set.
Double Nickle
Hi- WM 32 from NC, coming to NYC Friday night and Sat AM... Im staying around 50th and Broadway and am hoping to find a local AMP for table shampoo and erotic massage. Please drop me a line at [email]raleighguy4un@yahoo.com[/email] or send me back a PM through this site and let me know..> Im looking especially for Sat AM.
Thanks. Happy to share similar info for anyone coming to NC
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Speaking of AARP (you have to be 50 to join, and yes, I'm a member) unfortunately I may have accidentally jinxed "Coco" - just heard over the weekend that her HJ-only AMP in CT got busted the other day, and she (age 53 according to the arrest report) and her 63-year-old co-worker got arrested for prostitution. Yes, 63! Glad to see that LE is focusing their efforts on serious criminals.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not the 63 year old - I'm only 55. I don't know how old Mighty Spearsman is, but the 63 year old I'm referring to doesn't have a spear - she's a woman. I confused a CT AMP raided this month with a 63 year old worker and a 50 something worker with a CT AMP raided last month with a 63 year old worker and a 50 something worker. Is this the same 63 year old? Is that who I had at my visit to the spa of the earlier raid? Could be. It was still great.
Double Nickle
[QUOTE=Double Nickle]Oh no, Virile Vito, I'm sorry about that. I was at Lucky Footsie again today and only saw one girl, but she took good care of me. If no girl is available there are many other massage places within a few blocks. Manhattan has hundreds of massage parlors, maybe more than anywhere else on Earth. The greatest concentration in Manhattan is probably in Chinatown.
Walking back to the subway from LF I went via Pell, Mott, and Bayard. I saw many other massage places on that route. If I hadn't already shot my wad I probably would have stopped in one of them. I love the signs, "Best Foot and Back Rub for Men and Women," "Qi Kung," "Qi Gong," "Chinese Back Rub," etc., etc. Sometimes they are by themselves, sometimes with Acupuncture, or a Beauty Salon.
I had walked into Lucky Footsie today soaking wet from the rain. They set me up with a loaner set of clean dry clothes and dried my wet clothes in a drier. If I have to wait they usually hand me a cup of water and a newspaper (they all read the New York Post in English). Besides the usual elements of a session (see my previous posts), today the girl gave me a pedicure as well. And she handed me an umbrella on my way out to keep me dry on my way home. New York Chinatown is Massage Heaven in my book. May it always remain so.
Double Nickle[/QUOTE]DN,
Isn't it great when you and the MP get to know each other a little bit! Those little touches are a great bonus.
I did see a couple of signs, but darkened and closed. As I said, it was unwise of me to attempt it so late. There weren't even any Chinese guys under the Manhattan Bridge (not what I was after, but a sign of the time).
Unfortunately, I don't know the Chinese places and their m.o. like I do with their Seoul counterparts.
Vito
Anyone heading to GS should avoid Candy at all cost. Poor attitude and shitty massage. I actually left withoput giving her a tip at all. I've never done that before but she really pissed me off. I really got to stop going to this place but it's so close. I'm going to try the new place on 29th street again, but I doubt there's much more than a HJ offered at that place.
Has anyone tries the place on CL @ 36th and 7th??
Hey Double Nickle,
I've heard that the whole building is owned by the owner of Luckie Footsie.
The Second Floor is still used for special occassions(ie gambling, etc)
I remember that the second floor was busted when Lucky Footsie was only open for six months.
There are two skinny girls there (late 20 early 30s) on Sunday that gave good massage & HJ for extra 40; When I paid V & chatted with her like old time sake, then the girl I was with pulled me aside & said next time there will be extras for me. Interesting?!
I think they have to be comfortable with you, before moving on to other things.
Has anyone found the location for young chinatown girls - Last I heard they were near Pell ST(Post Office) either in the basement or 2nd Flr buildings.
Is the FS still 70. Or has it gone up.
Can someone confirm.
Drop by for a visit to NYC and thanks for the post so I know what's going on. Read the paper and found a bunch of chinese places in chinatown. Most of them quoted 80 and so I guess it has gone up from 70. I think you can haggle to 70 if you wish (I didn't try). Seem to be cheaper than my last visit to NY, probably due to greater supply than demand. I even saw advertised latina places for 35 for 15 min quickie. Not many deals can be found in the city but glad to hear that amping is still a great deal.
[QUOTE=Virile Vito]Well, I struck out looking on a visit to LF the other night.
She asked if I wanted the man to give me a foot massage. I said no, I would like a massage and pointed to my back. She replied that "no, we don't have that; just man".
Vito[/QUOTE]My question is: Are there two Luckie Footsies? Because I had the same experience there this afternoon. Lots of Asian dudes, and the mamasan (if you could call her that) assured me it was a foot service only. I called twenty minutes after I left and she repeated the same thing.
This is the one of Division. Is there another one? If not, is there a password?
I hate passwords.
Spent an hour under the bridge today trying to get the guys with cards to give me a card. I asked one guy, and he said no. I asked another guy, and he didn't even respond. Went back to the first guy, he said he can't speak (gestured to his throat) and so I start gesturing to my back and saying "But it hurts! Ow! Ow! Need card! Need Massage!". He laughed but walked away. In the meantime, both of them are handing out cards to Chinese guys like it's going out of style. So I just stubbornly stood there and kept asking random people for cards. Some drunk Chinese guy walked up and mumbled in Cantonese, so I had a full 10 minute gibberish conversation with him, all the while asking "Card? Card? Give me card?". I felt like at some point the card guys would either 1) have pity on me and give me a card or 2) get annoyed of having a lao wai standing around, and give me one so I'd leave. No dice. They just kept whispering to each other, which I thought was either a conversation speculating on whether I was LE, or deciding whether or not to curb my teeth out right then and there and be done with me.
In any event, getting back into the apt. scene is tough. I miss my little place on Allen. Went by and knocked afterward, but no one home. If anyone has any leads please PM me. There's got to be something better going on in NYC than just HJs in Chelsea AMPs.
I'm heading up from the bible belt for a couple days. I'll read the FF some more, and should make out ok, but I might yell for help if I'm struggling.
Sometimes I'm in the mood for just an incredible massage, after which I self administer an L1 when they are done and leave.
I usually dont get L1 from MPs preferring two L2s.
Pop, massage, pop, massage, shower = heaven.
-ps.. I've only recently become a senior member. Prior to that I'd stick to pms for time sensitive stuff so that i could get warnings out.
Hey Stagger,
The only way you are going to get these cards is if You know anyone who speaks Cantonese, to get it for you; They only hand them out to Asian people because they feel safer with their own people. With you just standing there & sticking out like a sour thumb makes the situation for them much worse.
Plus, if you do get the cards, You need to speak fluent Cantonese!!!!!
Otherwise, they will hang up on you very fast; I used a chinese-english dictionary & it didn't help either.
Be careful of Police presence & chinese gangs.
With Double Nickles report on AMP in Chinatown, checkout
139 Bowery(Next to the Bus Ticket Station) Buzz RM301
I think its' Hong Do Health Spa?!?!
They speak english a little - massage 40 Special service 140.
Girls look late 20s to early 30s - Most are mechanical, but you can get a gem.
Outworlder
[QUOTE=Outworlder]The only way you are going to get these cards is if You know anyone who speaks Cantonese, to get it for you; They only hand them out to Asian people because they feel safer with their own people. With you just standing there & sticking out like a sour thumb makes the situation for them much worse.
Plus, if you do get the cards, You need to speak fluent Cantonese! Otherwise, they will hang up on you very fast; I used a chinese-english dictionary & it didn't help either.
Be careful of Police presence & chinese gangs.
With Double Nickles report on AMP in Chinatown, checkout
139 Bowery(Next to the Bus Ticket Station) Buzz RM301
I think its' Hong Do Health Spa?!?!
They speak english a little - massage 40 Special service 140.
Girls look late 20s to early 30s - Most are mechanical, but you can get a gem.
Outworlder[/QUOTE]They advertise a lot on craigslist. Actually, they are located on 139 Canal Street.
Sometimes speaking fluent Cantonese isn't enough; you'd need to speak fluent Mandarin. Who knows, worth a shot though.
[QUOTE=John Stagger]My question is: Are there two Luckie Footsies? Because I had the same experience there this afternoon. Lots of Asian dudes, and the mamasan (if you could call her that) assured me it was a foot service only. I called twenty minutes after I left and she repeated the same thing.
This is the one of Division. Is there another one? If not, is there a password?
I hate passwords.[/QUOTE]There is only one LF that I know of. I actually tried it again, on DNST, with pretty much the same result. Now I no longer care!
To reiterate what OW said, try CL or Village Voice - by standing under the bridge like that, you not only will be unsuccessful, but draw heat to the guys working there.
There are alot of Korean places in Midtown - RTFF.
Vito
Yeah, I know I was making a bad situation worse for card guys, but ultimately, I hate injustice. There should be equality!! There should be equal access to cards!! They could make good money off of me - I just wanted to somehow prove that I'm the real deal, not LE.
Whatever. I'l check out this other place. Thanks for the reference.
John,
Don't blame them & this equality Sh*t!
Every Minority group is just looking out for themselves.
Chinatown got busted I think last year or 2 years ago on prostition charges, illegal gambling, & smuggling of illegal immigrants around the Pell St & Mott St areas.
Here is a Suggestion, when You're at it again under the Bridge(Division St):
1)Watch them handing out cards & either wait for one patron throw it away or just go upto him & ask for the card, IF he has no use for it.
2)If you hear any asian that is speaking english & they are approaching the guys with the cards, just go upto them & ask if they can help you out by grabbing for one; If that is successful, ask him/her to call the # for you using your cellphone; This, Of Course, required some money on my part.
Checkout the Hotel Entrances along Bowery & Hester, Bowery & Grand, & Bowery & Kenmore; At one time, I saw alot of guys going in & out of the front entrances. A asian friend of mine said there is a young chinese girl selling herself @ night to get by & pay for her rent. So far, I haven't seen any asian giving me the EYE!
Just got to be Patient!
Outworlder
I've had some of those card guys give me a card. I neither speak nor look very chinese. but I guess the guy had a good feeling about me. Must have been I had 'the look' having just come from my fav east chinatown joint.
I have also seen those cards scattered on the ground, either dropped or thown away. But if you are not able to speak mandarin or look chinese, I would doubt they will do you much good.
Ok guys, first things first, I reported on GS a while ago, but there seems to be an error in the report. Simple really, it wasn't gold spa! Went to west garden instead. Not sure how I got the names screwed up in my head, but hey live and learn. Saw a post about an elevator related to GS, and I realized "There was no elevator, and the stairs went down... uh oh"
Now a review on the real GS.
First, location is easy to get to ring the right bell and go up to the proper floor in the slow moving elevator.
The interior is.. office like. WGS is impressive with a few orchids and nice textures and well thought out paint/layout. Makes you feel very comfortable, although the public undressing area is a bit strange. If the girls were hot, they would be awesome. GS is on the other end of the spectrum in terms of looks, the entire visual experience is fairly boring when you walk in, they need paint or something.
Facilities are also fairly office like, but they work. Decent sauna, table shower and massage rooms, what else do you really need? The massage tables could be great as they have a nice warming circuit in them, but they don't have enough padding around your face, same thing for the table shower with the brick like thing they use under your head.
This is where the story gets weird, cause the 1 hour fee is high, really high. I could see 60, but not 100. Normally, this would be the time to walk out, but hey why not go for it once. Back to the room. "Please wait here"
5-10 minutes goes by and wow... 5'4, 34c no fat and a short little skirt walks in. Age... not sure. Not sure I care either. Somewhere between 30-40 is my guess, but she could be 25 or 45, you know the drill.
Didn't even go over a name, just knew it was time to say hi and get naked. Was handed a towel and closed my mouth, clearing up a bit of drool. Complimented the outfit and received a smile to warm my heart (it was really cold) and it was time to hit the shower. Made sure to touch her in all the right spots on the way and during the shower to get her "comfortable" with me.
'twas good. Not great, but not bad and she was thorough and didn't stop until she was sure everything was completely clean. Then before you know it, it was time to stand up and get dry before heading back to the room. Laid down on the table, and it was time to begin working the kinks out. Hate to say it, but the massage was only ok. She tried hard and has some decent muscle, but not enough technique. If she took a class in how to massage, wow... she could be awesome. Only one thing was distracting me, she kept pausing in the middle taking one hand off duty, then the other, but didn't get up. I thought at first maybe her hands hurt and she was rubbing them for relief, but then I heard the clothing hit the ground.
Damn. I am a sucker for perfect, if fake, boobs and a flat stomach. I'll tell you what, these were ideal.
Lets just say the rest ended well and she is very dedicated to her craft, though needs to be cautioned that faster is not always better. Fortunately she listened well and knows what feels good. No full or other creative service on the menu, at least not as I could tell, but then again I am not out for that so ymmv.
Silky smooth skin, everywhere, and total GFE. Forgot about the house fee entirely, well at least until I looked at my empty wallet the next morning and needed to get some cab money. :)
Talked for a few minutes to get her name, still a bit confused as her english is only "ok" but some phrases were less than optimal. Her name was either Coffee or Copee or something like that with a slightly less pronounced p. Asking for the name afterwards is always fun ;)
In the end, if the price could be re-adjusted towards reality GS could be a real bad habit. As it is, one return trip was required to make sure but until that price changes, no more.
You may or may not appreciate her as much, but we each have our own fairly specific tastes for the different races and general classes. She hit the nail on the head in her particular grouping. Face was pleasant and thank god, none of that super thick makeup and aweful super bright shadow/blush that some seem to love to wear. Nothing looks worse on an asian than trying to cover up their beautiful skin. The rest of her body was awesome, and was a pleasure just to witness up close.
There was no up-selling, and tip was NOT discussed. I put down what I thought was appropriate and left with her escorting me out and the tip left behind. She didn't even look at the tip when I put it down but said thank you anyways. That is the way it should be.
The only caution is that the other girls walking around were not worth the time or effort IMO. Looks matter, so be prepared to either make a request or ask to see your choices.
Hopefully this is appreciated and has earned me the ability to make a simple info request, and its definitely one I haven't seen covered so far and won't raise to many hackles.
Is there any chance there are a few places that massage female clients also or do they only allow men as a hard and fast rule? And by massage, I mean AMP style with the TS etc, not clinician style. I'm not looking for names to be posted, just if it might be worth broaching the idea. (btw: no, you may not give her a massage yourself :D)
Obsrving,
A few details about Gold.... Yes that was Coffee, and there are a few other cuties, but be careful.... Never pay more than $70 house..... they have a double room, the first room off the lobby. They can do you and your friend at the same time. Could be pretty erotic
There's another I went to with the ball & chain, above Subway on Madison & 33rd
BTW - I tried the new place on 7th & 36th. (see CL) very nice, usual finish. I'll be hitting this place from now on. I'll only report if there are any improvements to the finish