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I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=tester896]I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]They're a scam. All you'll get from those services is the same girls who are hanging out in the casino bars, but now you'll have to pay a $150 "agency fee" on top of everything.

[QUOTE=Wastrel]Apparently I created quite a fan club for a little neighborhood casino, the PMs I've been getting might outnumber the doable cocktail waitresses in this place, and I haven't even closed the deal on my own chocolate cocktail condiment yet, so: requests for information will now be respectfully ignored. Nothing personal.

It's my own fault, just seemed that Whimbly's self-description perfectly fit the profile of what I've seen these particular young ladies coo and gush over when it walks in: youngish soft spoken polite African-American guys who are the opposite of MTV hip-hop bad boy fashion. Place is in a sketchy neighborhood, and it seems these girls are sick and tired of the other thing, and want to adopt a puppy with benefits. But you'll have to find your own similar place, cause this one couldn't handle that much traffic. The ladies will get spoiled by all the new attention and tips, and they won't love Wastrel anymore.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm.........

if that place is on the eastside of town, I think I know here its at. I'll xheck it out this weekend.
Be safe out there........

[QUOTE=tester896]I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]
Look at the pictures but DO NOT CALL! What will happen they will send you a girl not the one in the picture. Then they will upsell you $150 just to take off her clothes any thing else will be expensive.

[QUOTE=Vegas Black]Hmmm.........

if that place is on the eastside of town, I think I know here its at. I'll xheck it out this weekend.
Be safe out there........[/QUOTE]

That's gotta be on the westside, the REAL WESTSIDE ! As in Moulin Rouge territory !

Those cards were geared for out of town suckers. I know a guy who collects them! One thing you must not do is give your CC number to them or any agency. She will come to you and B/S you and ask for more money. Plus, if you don't agree with what the girl is going to do for you, try to imagine getting your money back. You will have to tell the CC company you were not happy with her services and your business will be out there. Also, while I am on this subject, dont use the ATM at MP's, I know a MP that got busted where I used to live and they confiscated the machine and looked up all the users.

Cash always talks and make sure you and her have a good understanding of how much you will be paying and what you will be getting BEFORE she even enters the room. Send her on her way if you are not getting what YOU want.

The key will be your bargaining ability, its like going into a grocery store hungry, you will grab more things based on your hunger at the moment. If you go out mongering and you are "hard up" for some action, you will pay a higher price to quickly get that stress release. take your time, take a deep breath, keep in mind there are a lot more of them, they may not always fall in your lap, but they are out there somewhere-waiting.

I have experimented with using the escort services in Vegas and like any city you have to be careful. One thing is that if you want a particular lady that you chose from a web page then do not accept someone else. If you want a particular type of lady then do not accept someone who is clearly not what you are looking for.

Hell one time the agency was so whacked out that they had 4 ladies coming to my door at once and I turned then all away! The agency just kept calling ladies with no concern to what I requested and that can result in a multiple delivery that includes none that were of interest to me.

I have had sucess getting ladies to give me their direct number and later we would hook up and bypass the agency.

Vegas has so many options and you have to find some that work for you.

Have fun.

xerman

[QUOTE=tester896]I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]

Scam. Here is what happens:

1.) You call. They ask what you want your girl to look like. They tell you it is $150-300 to have a girl come to your room.

2.) Girl arrives. She may or may not look like what you asked for. You are horny so you let her in anyway. You pay her. She hands it out the door.

3.) She now tells you that the initial money was the agency fee. She tells you it will be $300 for anything else.

then one of two things happen:

4.) You are smart so you ask if that includes sex. She says "oh no, thats illegal". After a few more minutes she quotes $600+ for fs. And it really will cost that much.

or

5.) You are dumb and hand her $300. She takes off her clothes and is in a bikini. She dances for 5-10 minutes and leaves.

The end.

Any tips for a fellow monger with a 2 or 3 hr window without the family?
Staying on the strip. between 10:00PM and 12:00AM

[QUOTE=Speck]Scam. Here is what happens:

Great info, Speck. I've often wondered the same thing. Thanks.

What about the working girls at the bar? What is typical $$ for them?

[QUOTE=Muggs]Anyone ever hooked up with filipina providers? CW, AMP, Apts?[/QUOTE]Sorry I procrastinated but I have a report from last month. I was in Vegas and am starting to rack up some experience. I stayed at Sams Town as they comp me. I arrived very late on a Sunday eve\Mon. morn and was playing in poker tourny in the morning so was not interested in a long hunt. I walked down boulder highway as far as Arizona charlies to scope it out. Nothing happening till I got to parking lot, there were 2 sw hanging out in valet area talking to attendant. Young white trash looking. I went inside to go pee and came out and they were gone. I walked back and called it a night.

Monday eve I called an ad from city life for private incall oriental massage. Girls name was Miko and she turned out to be phillipino. Was very nice $1/2 for erotic massage and got into daty completely and me touching her allover. Was a complete gfe. Location was on Decatur I think a few blocks south of sahara.

I decide to go 2 for 2 and in a few hours parked at excallibur and started scoping it out. Played pker for a couple hours and then walked along bridges to New york. was met by 2 young young girls, 1 black 1 white I asked age and they said 20, I didn't believe it so played bj in New York. After winning 2$ I started toward corner of trop again walked as far as Luxor. At about 4am in nile bar by front door found Sarah. She was keeping low profile at video bar but I could tell she was working. Sat next to her and in 5 minutes we were heading to my car at Exc. she agreed to $1.5 I couldnt believe it. she was a little tipsy, and a knockout petite about 29 years old and brunette. She kept flashing tits and kitty and wanting me to touch her on way back to car. I think to make sure I was not le. She came back to my place for GFE 2 in 1 night for me a record, She was outsatanding. I called I payed for her taxi and would love to see her again. She flys out from georgia a few time a year to work.

So yes sometimes the girls will go off strip back to your place if they trust you.

Later guys

Was in Vegas yesterday and decided to cruise the spots mentioned on here for some late afternoon adventure. Was out around 4:30 PM, drove Fremont/Boulder. I didn't see any 10's but I did see five 2's. Also saw metro on a bike having a chat with one BSW not far from LVB. Continued down to Boulder where nothing was seen except a couple white unmarked LE Fords. Turned down Trop to see if anything was happeneing in the ususal spot since all the roadwork was finished since last time I was there. Trop was DEAD around 5:15. There was one skinny WSW in front of the Shell station with I presume her pimp on his hot little kiddie bike. Not worth doing. Also one chunky BSW at the fast food place across the street. Not into chocolate so passed on that as well.

Sticks,

Good report, I have met with Miko once, but it was an outcall to my room and I thought she was cute and fun. When I make it out that way again, I will have to give her a ring.

That pick up you had at the bar was great for Vegas. Getting a pro from the bars is a bit of a mixed bag. I have had good times and some hook ups that did not work so well.

Don't be too good, and be careful.

Xerman

Surprised more of you guys don't discuss this option, I have had a couple of Amazing experiences this way and am Finding it to work out better then s/w's or the CG Or casino Bar girls when I am in Vegas. Of course ya can't do it every time but a couple times a year makes the rest of the year so much more enjoyable.

Take one casino hooker perched on barstool downstairs, garnish with retouched photos, add another thick layer of extra pimping, shake cellphone lightly, and serve up one "escort" to go at door of hotel room upstairs.

The high price escorts I am talking about look the part run 12 -2500 an hour and I have yet to see them in the casino bars however feel free to let me know if you are aware of them in any of the bars, I have been to every major casino on and off the strip and have yet to see casino bar girls that meet the same standards I might have missed a hidden bar in a casino somewhere but I doubt it, the best I have seen run around mgm, mandalay & Bellagio. Yet there not the same quality, not even close.

First it was STD's in the Villages retirement community in central Florida, now this in Las Vegas

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Most of my Vegas mongering is on the weekends.

However, I was there Sunday and Monday night. Venetian to BC.

Sunday night there were very few sw out late night(after 4am). Lots of joggers which I do not get at all. Metro out which I found totally bizarre as this is the latest I have seen Metro out doing foot patrols. No pimps either

Monday night. Around 2am. Lots of fat white girls. Not what I want to spend money on. Kudos to Metro arresting at least one pimp(and dragging him handcuffed down LVB). At least one LE agency has the guts to arrest the only dangerous people in the prostitution circle(customers, girls, pimps). Also saw one really amazing looking cg get read the tresspass warning at Harrahs. Tons of Metro everywhere. One cg at Flamingo came on to me pretty strong. She grabbed my hand and placed it near her upper body. But when I went to rub her breast she pushed me away. That is my standard LE check with cg's...just a quick innocuous squeeze really to keep me safe. This is the first time one pushed my hand away. Ever. So I left immediately. I am unaware that Metro places undercovers in casinos, and this girl probably was legit, but its not worth the risk to me when I have a 100% failproof method at my disposal.

Overall, its MUCH easier to pick up cg's in this area on weekends. No Metro(too busy with other stuff), more girls, better quality, more chance at a decent price.

I wanted to thank a previous poster on tips for picking up working girls on the strip and also casinos. I was in Vegas couple of weeks ago and staying at Caesars Palace. Based on the tips one night I walked the strip towards Mandalay Bay and saw several working girls walking. Close to Monte Carlo saw one walking by herself and asked if she was looking for company and if I could buy her a drink. She was a gorgeous 22 year old latino born in East LA and a stunning pair of legs. We had a drink at the Monte Carlo and she ended up driving back with me to Casears. We picked up some Red Bull and Grey Goose on the way back and some protection. Overall the damage was $300 but it was worth it and we ended the evening in the shower cleaning each other quite thoroughly.

Night two I was walking out of Caesars and spotted this gorgeous African American lady coming in and kept staring at her. She smiled and gave me the look. I walked over to her and asked if she was looking for company and within 10 minutes we are back at my room. She had this thing about not showing her boobs even though I did get to them eventually. I would say an ok evening and the damage was $250.

Night three I was walking the casino and close to the Shadow bar at Caesars ran into this gorgeous 19 year old from Iowa. I stared talking to her and bought her a drink and things went from there. Once again ended up in my room and the damage was $300 and wow what a gal. She was gorgeous with a behind to die for.

So in short Caesars and the strip has several working girls who are gorgeous and nice for a decent price.

Happy Mongering

A very satisfied human being

[QUOTE=Webcams] Most girls at the bar in Vegas after 10pm are not working girls, having this attitude will certainly lead to trouble, most are tourist some regulars some working and some members of law enforcment working to make arrests, never assume everyones working even at a ho convention that's just stupid.[/QUOTE]I'm posting this in both General Reports and Rip-offs (the quote is from a post in Rip-offs). I hope it's kosher to do it. How bad is the presence of LE at the bars? I've read through this board for a week (an hour each day) in preparation of my first trip to Vegas. First trip, and alone (with no wife in tow). Haven't seen much talk about LE. After reading your posts, I was inclined to think that I should look for CGs at some of the bars (at the Bay, Bellagio, Luxor, MGM in particular) or to walk between the Bay and the Luxor or between the NY and Excalibur, hoping to be approached by one of those reported young SW. Now that you suddenly mentioned LE, hmm.

Thanks for any feedback,

Dan

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]I'm posting this in both General Reports and Rip-offs (the quote is from a post in Rip-offs). I hope it's kosher to do it. How bad is the presence of LE at the bars? I've read through this board for a week (an hour each day) in preparation of my first trip to Vegas. First trip, and alone (with no wife in tow). Haven't seen much talk about LE. After reading your posts, I was inclined to think that I should look for CGs at some of the bars (at the Bay, Bellagio, Luxor, MGM in particular) or to walk between the Bay and the Luxor or between the NY and Excalibur, hoping to be approached by one of those reported young SW. Now that you suddenly mentioned LE, hmm.

Thanks for any feedback,

Dan[/QUOTE]

Do a 100% failproof LE check. Once she knows you are interested, make sure you touch her breasts. Ask her first if you want. If she says no, walk away. If she says yes, or lets you, 100% she is not LE. Be discreet, you are out in public.

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]How bad is the presence of LE at the bars?[/QUOTE]Zip. They're not in the business of working hard to scare the tourists out of the casinos.

If you want to worry about something inside the casino, worry about knocking back too many drinks and letting yourself become a trick roll target. Use your own room and stay in control of yourself and your environment. But police setting up in an operation on the busy casino floor to entice horny tourists, to take them down and thrash about among the tables and send chips flying around? Fuhgettaboutit.

Casino security is expected to police their own property. Precisely how they choose to accomplish that depends on business decisions of casino management, and can vary from property to property and from week to week at the same property. But, I have never heard of a single instance of the use of a policewoman in an undercover reverse prostitution sting operation by the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department conducted INSIDE a gaming property. Not once, ever, that I am aware of. There's a first time for everything, and maybe tomorrow will be the day, but if you manage to get stung as a male customer in a major casino you are just about the most unlucky man who has ever existed on the face of the earth. You could have an embarrassing moment if you have bad taste in women and poor judgement in public behaviour and manage to really piss them off, and if you then insist on making stupid statements about illegal intentions to security you could make yourself vulnerable, but you have to pretty much dig your own hole and really want to throw yourself in it to get them calling Metro P.D. to haul you to jail for trying to get laid.

The streets outside the casino are another matter, as are stings in hotels to bust the working women. That definitely does happen.

I have never worked in the gaming industry, and there are others here who have very extensive personal experience in casino security issues from the inside, and it's just about the most significant kind of that sort of experience that exists, so if they choose to extend or revise or correct any of my comments on this topic with their expertise you should definitely go with what they say, instead. I will.

But in case you missed it, the short answer I gave is: none.

[QUOTE=Wastrel]Zip. They're not in the business of working hard to scare the tourists out of the casinos.

If you want to worry about something inside the casino, worry about knocking back too many drinks and letting yourself become a trick roll target. Use your own room and stay in control of yourself and your environment.

The streets outside the casino are another matter, as are stings in hotels to bust the working women. That definitely does happen.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I don't drink, so I should be able to control myself. What did you mean by "use your own room"? As opposed to what, sex in the (glass) elevator?

How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.

The presence of LE at bars is real.
I used to work casino security and try to pass on my experience when I can.
I will admit there weren't many "reverse stings", stings that LE used LE women to bring down the johns.

As stated, those johns were very unlucky, because I hardly heard of our casino using them, but I do remember it happening and I do remember trying to study the "makeup" of these women.

From what I could remember, they concentrated on the cg, especially at the bars. They used to tell us to "stay out of the bars" and let LE, do their work.

I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john. I remember seeing on "cops" a LE woman tell the john, she was not the police.

I would not worry at all about the reverse sting, I think it happens too infrequent to feel like you would get caught. As someone stated, be very careful about who you bring to your room.

Lockup everything before you go hunting. Take the money you want to spend. Don't be drunk and don't take a shower WITHOUT her.

Casino security can't do much, unless they know the cw has been trespassed from their property. If she has I.D., there is not much they can do. They can watch her pick up a john and go to his room. What crime has been committed?
What happens behind close doors is thier business. I actually saw a girl go into a room, so I stood outside and I heard the guy offering dope for sex.

I just try to tell you to relax because you won't enjoy yourself as much worrying about getting picked up. Read the posts, both experiences and advice and you will be okay.

[QUOTE=Guady1]I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john.[/QUOTE]I would think that they would let you squeeze as much as you can - there isn't any police rule that enjoins them from letting a suspect squeeze them, is there? Now, on the other hand, if she squeezes you. That would be prohibited, I think. After reading these posts from Senior members, I incline to put the chances of LE action at the bars down to 1%. On the other hand, I've heard that LE has been actively using craigslist to get us.

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]Thank you. I don't drink, so I should be able to control myself. What did you mean by "use your own room"? As opposed to what, sex in the (glass) elevator?

How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.[/QUOTE]I don't drink either, but I can still sometimes have the attitude of a drunk, especially when a very pretty little kitty purrs in my ear. I was suggesting that it is not usual practice to be asked to go to "her place" and it is wise to be suspicious of any suggestion to do that. Her room, her apartment, her car, her whatever, all wrong numbers. Some guys do and sometimes it works out OK for them, but it increases the risk a lot. Working girls on the Strip routinely expect to perform their service in your room, but if you happen to run into one wanting to take you to hers instead I'd suspect a possible set up for a robbery. From time to time guys get rolled by following a sweet little thing instead of leading her, being lured to a place where sweetie's rude uncles can suddenly interrupt the party, and they do not have a nice day.

I've got nothing against glass elevators. Smile for the camera.

Metro has been staging some publicity stunts the last several weeks around the city with various kinds of hooker round-ups, but the LE situation on the street remains exactly the same as on the street in Topeka or Tallahassee or anywhere else, and the same commonsense precautions are called for on the streets of Las Vegas. A street decoy needs to camp out in one place where the LE surveillance is set up, and will not be going with you to someplace where she has no backup available to keep her safe. There were three guys caught up in the recent Metro operation, and each of them got that way doing their business in a publicly visible spot right next to the streetcorner where they picked up someone Metro was already fixing to bust.

There are generally a lot of ladies of easy virtue circulating around the walkways outside the resorts. Some are welcome in the casinos like any other customer, and some are not, for whatever reason. I want nothing to do with those who are not.

[QUOTE=Wastrel]

I have never worked in the gaming industry, and there are others here who have very extensive personal experience in casino security issues from the inside, and it's just about the most significant kind of that sort of experience that exists, so if they choose to extend or revise or correct any of my comments on this topic with their expertise you should definitely go with what they say, instead. I will.

But in case you missed it, the short answer I gave is: none.[/QUOTE]

There is a several year old episode of cops where they are set up in a major strip hotel with male undercovers. It is not the undercover cop as an arab sheik episode. Eventually there is a scene where a transsexual prostitute comes in to the hotel room(they do not show its face). There is conversation that indicates that the uc officer met the transsexual in the casino and brought him up to the room. So although I believe rare, I also believe this indicates that Las Vegas Metro will run undercover stings in the casinos on occasion.

[QUOTE=Guady1]
I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john. I remember seeing on "cops" a LE woman tell the john, she was not the police.
[/QUOTE]

Police can lie.

Always.

In every state.

Its legal.

They can also deceive, trick, and use guile to gain information, an arrest, or a confession.

Use the touch test. No female cop is gonna let you touch her tits.

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]What did you mean by "use your own room"? [/QUOTE]

He means: Use your own room.

IE, do not go to a room the girl might have.

You know what is in your room. You have no clue what might lurk in a room the girl takes you to.

Every legit cg will go with you to your room.

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]

How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.[/QUOTE]

Once you start talking....you know, small talk like "hi, where are you heading to" and stuff like that....hold her hand....seriously...actually, she will probably take your hand first. Tell her you would like company, or just say yes when she asks. That is the point where you should do the touch test. Then put your arm around her, quietly negotiate the terms. Don't be stupid or insulting. Head to your room. Place your wallet in the safe..as well as anything else valuable.

[QUOTE=Speck]There is a several year old episode of cops where they are set up in a major strip hotel with male undercovers...[/QUOTE]I haven't seen or heard of that episode before, but I have no trouble at all believing what you described. Since it involves bringing a working girl (or in this case some kind of imitation thereof) to a designated room where they have set up in advance and have complete control of the environment, probably including the adjacent rooms too, there is no danger of any civilians in the way, tourists getting hurt, or any disruption to the casino's business.

Of course I have known working girls who have told me about getting busted in outcall escort service stings set up in hotels like that, as I'm sure you have too. "Ringy-dingy, yeah is this hot babe #3 from the ad in the Vegas Weekly Curbclutter? Can you come party with me in room 666 at the Ionosphere Hotel right away?" Just like that oil sheik episode.

Now I will go watch my cherished recording of the classic "Coco the Clown" vice officer episode again. See the SW ask Coco if he's a cop. See him say "oh no baby I'm a lonely clown and you're cute" and sadisticly fire off a noisemaker shooting confetti in her face. See her procede to mention money and sex, and promptly get busted in Coco's clownmobile. See her sobbing "I thought you were a cop, but you said you weren't, you can't arrest me" while being stuffed into the back of a patrol car.

The ladies on the street they usually do not look much like working girls at all. But you will see them dressed provocatively and either are walking alone or with another girl. The approach I use is "can I walk with you?" and then if she agrees walk with her, shoot the breeze with her and then ask her if you can buy her a drink. If she is a working girl and wants to go with you she will come over to your Casino and obviously prices can be negotiated on the way or at the Casino.

I ran into a lady on the strip near Paris and walked with her for a couple of minutes. I told her I was staying at Caesars and wether she would join me to which she replied that she does not go into Caesars. At that point I said have a wonderful evening and bailed.

But I agree with the earlier posters bring them into your environment and use the safe they have in the rooms.

On thing to note is even at the bars at Caesars there are a lot of working girls and also the bartenders seem to be in the loop. I have also seen the working girls who stand out have been asked to leave the Casinos.

My two cents

Happy Hunting

In Jack Sheehan's book [b][i]Skin City[/i][/b] , Clark County Sheriff Bill Clark is quoted extensively from a 2003 inter·view
[ Clark Co. Sheriff because The Strip isn't in Las Vegas proper ]

A synopsis = he says that they *used* to do stings where they set up shop in a Strip Hotel with male officers impersonating tourists and getting out·call girls to show up and get busted

... but ultimately they decided it was a waste of time , effort , and resources because the Real Targets of the UC·op — the operators of the out·call services — never got nailed ; and any girl they arrested was bailed out and back working before all the paper·work was done

There is NO mention of UC Hotel John Stings , so I wouldn't worry about that

This , and many more topics , are all covered in the chapter that deals with LE / sex in Vegas , titled
[i]" I'll Be Watching You "[/i] , p. 181 ff.

BTW , I bought my copy at LAS [ McCarran Int'l Airport ] ; not only was it on sale , it's even autographed by the author

[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]In Jack Sheehan's book [b][i]Skin City[/i][/b] , Clark County Sheriff Bill Clark is quoted extensively from a 2003 inter·view
[ Clark Co. Sheriff because The Strip isn't in Las Vegas proper ][/QUOTE]Doesn't matter, either way. The Clark County Sheriff is in charge of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department ("Metro"), which is both the Clark County Sheriff's Department and the City of Las Vegas Police.

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]I would think that they would let you squeeze as much as you can - there isn't any police rule that enjoins them from letting a suspect squeeze them, is there? [/QUOTE]

If a police woman allowed the target of a sting to freely touch her breasts, and then arrested him for solicitation after a deal was struck, I'd say that was pretty good grounds for dismissal for entrapment. He could argue that he was enticed, not thinking straight, whatever. Unless he said right out "Now that this test tells me you are not a cop, I want to offer money for sex," he should have no problem in court. Of course it is still inconvenient to be arrested in the first place.

[QUOTE=Speck]Once you start talking. You know, small talk like "hi, where are you heading to" and stuff like that. Hold her hand. Seriously. Actually, she will probably take your hand first. Tell her you would like company, or just say yes when she asks. That is the point where you should do the touch test. Then put your arm around her, quietly negotiate the terms. Don't be stupid or insulting. Head to your room. Place your wallet in the safe. As well as anything else valuable. [/QUOTE]Thanks, Speck. Great advice, almost visual. Isn't it a bit awkward to put your hand around her, squeeze her boob, and then if she says 'it's $$$, sir' you just say 'oh no that's too much'?

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]Thanks, Speck. Great advice, almost visual. Isn't it a bit awkward to put your hand around her, squeeze her boob, and then if she says 'it's $$$, sir' you just say 'oh no that's too much'?[/QUOTE]

Well, countering at $$ is really no prob. If she says no...she says no. But if you are expecting things will be less than that, you need to look elsewhere than on the strip.

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Or take it one step furthur =

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375152&postcount=345[/URL]

[QUOTE=PsyberZombie][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=346419&postcount=75[/URL]

Or take it one step furthur =

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375152&postcount=345[/URL][/QUOTE]

Did you show her a purple chip? isn't that a bit too much (no the fact of showing it to her, but its value)

[QUOTE=Speck]Well, countering at $$ is really no prob. If she says no...she says no. But if you are expecting things will be less than that, you need to look elsewhere than on the strip.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't ask the question properly. I didn't mean "isn't it awkward to negotiate with her" but "isn't it awkward to take her hand or put an arm around her and then negotiate, and if the negotiations do not come to fruition. Isn't it awkward to have had such close physical contact and then just let go and leave?"

:)

[QUOTE=Danielcazenove]Sorry, I didn't ask the question properly. I didn't mean "isn't it awkward to negotiate with her" but "isn't it awkward to take her hand or put an arm around her and then negotiate, and if the negotiations do not come to fruition. Isn't it awkward to have had such close physical contact and then just let go and leave?"

:)[/QUOTE]

No. It wont take long if you don't agree to price.