This one can be found on Livernois mostly north of Michigan Avenue. May attempt to Rob or Scam you collaborating with others.
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This one can be found on Livernois mostly north of Michigan Avenue. May attempt to Rob or Scam you collaborating with others.
[QUOTE=Nevell;1820622]This one can be found on Livernois mostly north of Michigan Avenue. May attempt to Rob or Scam you collaborating with others.[/QUOTE]Can you give any specifics? I picked her up a little while back (her name is Katie) , I didn't have any problems with her. She is red head, about 22ish.
[QUOTE=John Wise; 1797562]One of the tricks of the trade is to drive 10 minutes out of the hood (into the suburbs) A 10 minute drive out means a hour walk back, so she is less likely to pull any BS if she has to walk all that way back. Also, NEVER pay until you are ready to do the deed, this includes notel dates.
I picked up a SW not to long ago, and her attitude changed big time (from good to bad) once she got paid. I told her just to stop and give me my money back, she told me to fuck off and take her back to where I picked her up from. Then I told her she had two choices, give me my money back and I would give her a ride back, or keep the money and get out of my car and walk back. She gave me my money back.
Something tells me you will give her a 2nd chance, and then a 3rd, and then a 4th. See what I'm getting at? Cut your losses and move on. If your the kind of guy that "pleads" with SW maybe you should rethink seeing SW, girls like Precious will eat you alive.[/QUOTE]Good tips Johnwise gives here. Though it's not a bad rule, the only one I don't do is the money for the deed thing. Many SW are just as afraid or wary as a monger and I actually have my money (which I never reach for in my wallet) ready and in a cupholder. I read their face and their reaction. Personally, I think it puts them at ease and I also think it sends out a bit of confidence as in "I do this shit and know what I am paying and what you are getting."
I completely agree that YOU pick the area to do the deed. If you don't know the area, don't gamble. Go study it. You are in control, not the SW. Going to her spots can mean getting jacked.
Honestly, lately, I just see a bunch of 30-60 somethings with big grins on their faces zooming around in SUV's chasing down SW. These guys look so eager and wide eyed from the window of the car, that you can tell they are a "lick." A lollipop. A sure thing. The SW knows they will get whatever they want.
Finally,
A girl can be a crook. In this game; who isn't? She could be getting into the car on the same night at the same time with two different types of mongers. If she gets into the car of a seasoned monger, likely she will do her thing and get her return. If she gets into the car of a newbie she will see it written all over his face."I normally don't work the streets and my prices are 40 for BJ OK?"
Response 1: "OK here ya go hun." After the deed is done."Do you think you could spare a little more for me?"Sure babe."
Seasoned response: "What I have is 20. If that's not good enough, I respect that but then maybe you need to get back off the streets and on BP like you said." "OK babe, I will do 20."
These words won't make a newbie not a newbie; even if you say these words. There are just too many tell tale signs of being one. But in time, you will read something like this. And "get it."
[QUOTE=FindingGold;1821866]Can you give any specifics? I picked her up a little while back (her name is Katie) , I didn't have any problems with her. She is red head, about 22ish.[/QUOTE]THAT'S CAITE? (her spelling). Holy shit she's has gone through the ringer! LOL.
She never did me wrong either, but she was always an "I give up" scoop.
Wasn't going to post my embarrassment but realized that my mistake could possibly benefit someone else. Saw a BSW at the soda shop just south of 8 on the are Wed of last week. She's about 5'4" with a thick booty. Pulled in to get a soda and talked with her. Name was Liz. She said she remembered me from a couple years ago and wondered why we never hooked up. I didn't remember her. She said she needed a ride north of 8 so I accommodated. Didn't really have time for anything so exchanged digits. My first clue that I should run was that she called endlessly for rides, cig, etc over the next couple days. Over the weekend my second brain was out-driving the primary and when she called, I said what the hell. She said she had a place at her friends house. When I got there she said there was a change in plans cause the friends daughter came home and that we needed to go somewhere else. I should have just left her there but we drove. All the notels were filled or were cash only which I didn't have enough in my pocket. I said I'm done after 2 hours of this and she said hit the express-way and I'll take care of you there. Hit the express-way got myself ready and she Sat. There going through her phone. I said what the F* I pulled off the expressway and took her home. When we got there she said she couldn't get in cause she didn't have money to pay the house. Told her that if she knew the rules, she needed to make sure she complied and told her it wasn't my issue. She would not get out and kept saying she would have to come home with me. I told her to get out but she didn't. I drove off and went a notel off woodward. Got a room. After much screwing around by her, she finally got down to business. Oral was not bad. After finishing I started to head out and so did she. Asked her what she was doing. Told her to keep the room but she said she wanted a ride to the filling station. Told her no-way, I'm done for the night but she tried getting in any-ways. Then she started complaining that she had no additional money. Told her that wasn't my concern cause I paid her, bought her cigs and a bottle of booze and that was enough. She started making a small scene so I just bit the bullet and gave her 10, got in my vehicle and got the hell out of there. Very bad decision on my part and should have dumped her before I picked her up when the plans changed. So, hopefully, my bad choices will help someone else here avoid this nightmare.
I've had that kind of experience and it could be much worse. You've got to be very careful about what you might think of as just being a nice guy. To some girls it's like blood in the water to a shark. Every time they push a little and you give in it gets worse.
This dancers name is Fantasy Dream (aka. Kole).
I had a good experience with her in the upstairs VIP about two weeks ago and since have talked to her during another visit. (see post #4345). On this visit we talked and I told her I wanted to visit the VIP after her set and asked if she remembers our last encounter. She said she did.
After her set, she asked if I was ready. I again asked if she was ok with the same deal we made last time. French with mutual play, no song count. She said, ya "but I usually don't do it for that". So, off we went.
In the VIP everything was good but she seems a little rushed compared to last time. She is heavily engaged and then stops saying we're going on another song and if I want her to continue I'd have to contribute more than last time (I have not given her anything as yet). I told her that she agreed to the same deal we had last time with no song count and XX. She replied, that was a special. So, she did remember. LOL.
At this point, I'm getting dressed and telling her how disappointed I am that she broke the deal and she is bla bla. Don't remember a thing she said because I just tuned her out. Paid her for the songs when she stopped the action and went to the bar to finish my drink. In fact, bought another drink and talked to two other dancers but my heart was not in to it.
While not a big loss, its the "breaking the deal" that frost my cookies.
Thanks Mister Slate, you are so correct in your statement. It's a lesson learned.
[QUOTE=TenderMan;1936612]This dancers name is Fantasy Dream (aka. Kole).
I had a good experience with her in the upstairs VIP about two weeks ago and since have talked to her during another visit. (see post #4345). On this visit we talked and I told her I wanted to visit the VIP after her set and asked if she remembers our last encounter. She said she did.
After her set, she asked if I was ready. I again asked if she was ok with the same deal we made last time. French with mutual play, no song count. She said, ya "but I usually don't do it for that". So, off we went.
In the VIP everything was good but she seems a little rushed compared to last time. She is heavily engaged and then stops saying we're going on another song and if I want her to continue I'd have to contribute more than last time (I have not given her anything as yet). I told her that she agreed to the same deal we had last time with no song count and XX. She replied, that was a special. So, she did remember. LOL.
At this point, I'm getting dressed and telling her how disappointed I am that she broke the deal and she is bla bla. Don't remember a thing she said because I just tuned her out. Paid her for the songs when she stopped the action and went to the bar to finish my drink. In fact, bought another drink and talked to two other dancers but my heart was not in to it.
While not a big loss, its the "breaking the deal" that frost my cookies.[/QUOTE]Had A up sale with a tall black thin dancer she was all right with five for a hundred but when it came time to pay she wanted 25 a dance I paid it but was pissed.
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File under should have known better.
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Saw Mandy a few weeks ago.
Girl in picture, very skinny, easy set up, lots of information about girls she works with, low end notel incall.
First time was pretty good, good skills, all covered, a few rules.
Not a clock watcher, but at least three times knocking on the door by "other girls".
Works with Bre, Sam, Kylie Haze and Megan.
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Big surprise all former WSW, Sam and Bre have reviews in SW section. She let me know Sam was the the one with terrible scabs on her legs.
All the girls are big fans of the candy and under its control.
Regardless, felt she was worth a return visit.
Should have known.
Second visit, totally different.
She wanted the money up front, had to pay some people off and left all her stuff but disappeared for 15 minutes.
Did come back but all the stories started.
The front desk was warning her, so we had to cool it for a while.
The phone in the room keeps ringing.
She locks herself in the bathroom for "the long shower" and only comes out to say the other girls have LEO at their room.
She was whacked out.
She kept promising we would finish the date.
And she would make it up.
Well I left, took one for the team.
Absolutely no LEO cars in the parking lot.
Hello!
Their game is to get the money, get the candy, waste enough time to give the other girls and pimp time to freakout the guy with pounding on the door or LEO crap enough to leave.
Not a rookie but I made a rookie mistake.
No answer to calls or texts for three days.
Have to admit pretty organized scam.
There are better providers out there.
Never understood why the candy lovers screw up possible return business for a one time scam.
Any insights would be interesting.
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Yesterday 14:31.
Hopefully I will not need to post to Ripoffs again. LOL.
Read Flint post 1544, SWS Report I talked with a girl with the same name and fits the description on the are Monday. She was just north of the tracks on the are. I'm not saying for sure it's her, explore at your own risk. Lots of them saw the news and are checking out the D.
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I hope the ladies who read this Forum address kaleigh in your own way as she "stole" a date from another girl. I'm sure you girls have your own code.
[B]I'm assuming this is the kaleigh from the ave. I saw her several months ago and it was ok at best. About a week or so ago I went to pick up a cute blonde I had never seen before by service drive and Florida. I stop and unlocked door and kaleigh who was apparently sitting in the grass pops up and declares I'm her regular. Not true- planned on never partaking again. The problem was new girl was half in car but obviously nervous. I was telling her to get other leg in and we were leaving. She freaked out when kal. Was standing right next to her so she ran away. Kal proceeded to jump in even though I told her I wasn't interested. Then she wouldn't get out. I was trying to be cool and that clearly wasn't working. At this point I was parked in a stupid spot for almost 2 minutes. She's now crying saying she hasn't ate in a day and needed groceries and smokes. To avoid police I drive away to continue negotiating while moving. I told her I had $5 and was just trying to get other girls number she wasn't buying it. So now I'm beyond pissed off and tell her so. I tell her she's getting dropped off where I got her and she can have $5 and 2 of 4 smokes I had. She said no I said she's getting out on her own or with my help. We get back by spot and in lame attempt to grab change she snags my lighter. I reach over her to open door and tell her to get the Fu#% out. She's crying again and says no. I tell her I am going to physically remove her and neither one of us will enjoy it, which was true. I grab her pant legs just below her knees and put her feet outside car and her body twists following legs. My objective is to get her out but didn't want to hurt her or leave any marks so I gently place hand between her shoulder blades and slightly more than nudge her out. She's resisting but realizes its a losing battle. So the dirty * says you didn't have to be a dick and drags the lighter she stole from me 7-9" across rear quarter panel, leaving a deep scratch to the metal. It is not a monger car but it wasn't my better car I use for work. Now I'm seriously wanting to smack her but just want out of this bad situation. In my 20+ years doing this I never encountered something like this. So I'd recommend everyone avoid this asshole at all costs. If she does read the forum "fu#%you". In hind site I would have just driven off when she was wiggling her way in.[/B]