Skyler--not an SW, but worse...
First, to be clear, I remain grateful to posters who provide digits... And I will continue to thank posters who provide digits for SWs. BUT (note emphasis) I feel like a novice when trying to negotiate the ins and outs (excuse the expression) of escort mongering... (How long does it take NOT to be a novice???)
Take home lesson for "escort" Skyler??? She is not an SW, but rather a dancer/"home entertainer" who has been mentioned previously on this board. How was this non-SW??? ...I was taken.
When I arrived, she asked for 1.25 "for a show"... No way. I asked for FS instead, negotiating down to 0.6.
Dialog: "Hurry up--get yourself hard and put on an umbrella..." Afterwards, "be sure the condom and package flushes and put your clothes on in the bathroom 'cause I think someone else is pulling in."
My bad. I did not follow my instincts when first meeting her: she seemed completely put off by the situation. But, when confronted with an unclothed youngster with nice labia and cute breasts--my little head was working, not my bigger head.
Final review: She's a young chubber, in a BIG rush, WAY too high expectation on "quid pro quo," ZERO indication of wanting to please, pushing me perfunctually out the door.
For senior members (and regulars who have made significant posts), will give details and digits... But don't say I didn't warn you.
Does she have advantages of NOT being an SW?
1) Yes, for her, you don't HAVE to cruise the streets.
2) Yes, she has her OWN, (fairly) clean apt.
3) Yes--she is not a theif (probably--not totally sure of this).
4) Yes, a fellow monger gave me her digits which gives a degree of credibility (THANK YOU).
But... It was a VERY disappointing encounter (read his post--it contained warning signs). No way I recommend her, even if she IS on the East side (which might be convenient for some of us). [On the alternative, you may be able to parlay my problems into a positive outcome? Doubt it...]
Bottom line? Given the choice--SWs on average are much more satisfactory than this chat-line chicky. Not that this is a scientific study, but I believe the bottom line is "to each, his own.." For the 0.6 wasted, could have tried 3 different SWs, at least one or two of which would most probably have been much a more positive experience that Skyler...
STILL learning... But I still have an unexplanable affection for SWs and the hard work they do which I do NOT have for the likes of Skyler. [Nota bene: Cat, Pocahantas, Dina, Tammy, Sauna (sad situation there), etc.]
Giani
Warm weather, and how to avoid sham phone numbers...
Yes! Many ladies of the night are out in the warmer weather. I passed through OTR recently in the evening, and saw at least 6 in the circuit. One with bright bleached hair, several seriously worn out, some with black managers. I had just returned from seeing Susan, so was only window shopping. Looks like we will have a decent array to shop from.
On another note, a fellow monger (THANK YOU) provided digits for an SW. But... the digits were to a number of Crystal who claims to have no knowledge of the SW in question. I doubt that I have the whole story, but when I called back and asked if she ever saw the person in question, she said "I just got this phone and have no idea who you are talking about."
I cannot guarantee that I always follow the suggestion, but, if an SW gives you digits, you might try them out right away to see if they ring her phone. IF I had followed this suggestion, it would have saved me at least two rip off problems.
Giani
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UC study of street crime...
Whether used to identify "open air drug sales" hot spots, spots to avoid, or possible mongering spots, here is a study conducted by UC Criminal Justice Dept:
[url]http://www.uc.edu/oscor/LAW%20PUB%20SAFETY%2002-28-06.pdf[/url]
You can see from the file names which neighborhood is displayed.
Giani
Jennifer: my vote for diamond in the rough award!
This Jennifer is lanky, dressed in pink top and sweats, strawberry long blond hair, mid 20s, attractive, extremely communicative, friendly, bouncy, eager to please--oh my gosh, thank you Lord!
Although she was perhaps too demonstrative on the OTR street, jumped right in the car--friendly from word go. She agreed to 0.2 + tip, wanted to start immediately as I drove (don't you love it--living on the edge--getting very fine oral attention in the conservative streets of Sinsinnati)). "Tell me how you like it-- fast, slow, rough, gentle, etc" Sheesh--where has she been all my life! So eager to please.
Very satisfactory completion, BBBJTCIM. (Took 4-5 pictures, but my camera was on damn telephoto!!! Sh*t. Got some evocative very blurry pix...)
She was full of info. Says Dina is NOT in jail.. (What is THAT about?) Knows that Martha is a thief, that Sauna is better off in the cooler, Pocohantas is also in cooler, etc.
Digits??? as if... "I have a phone, but I don't have minutes." I tell her that is a very old story. She asks for my digits--I think better of it (What do you think?)
But--I give her VERY high marks: Looks: 8, technique: 7, personality: 9.
I SO hope I can find her again--but the odds are slim with no digits, and I have not seen her previously. If you see her, be VERY nice to her, and see if she has digits yet. You will earn my eternal gratitude for them.
Giani
Scum123: To what city are you referring??? [and... rules for safe mongering]
Where??? I cannot figure out where Edison and 11th are... East Avenue??? NOT Cincinnati, nor N KY?
Question: Is she or isn't she??? LE usually sets up a sting with a (too) good looking female, and several (I have heard FOUR) different spotters (who seldom drive around, it puts the decoy at risk--they lurk). As soon as any "quid pro quo" is mentioned, they swoop down.
To be safer, refer to my set of rules for safer mongering. (Here they are: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=409297&postcount=11[/url]) Ask if she needs a ride. If she gets right in, negotiations can begin. In any case, never negotiate through the window, if she won't get right in, tell her "Sorry, I mistook you for a friend of mine, bye." Once in, she may check you out by asking you to feel between her legs (tough job that) or you may ask that she check out your equipment. Still, no mention of $. She may ask if you could loan her $. Good sign.
THEN, proceed. Mongers learn to be grateful for known contacts. Not only do they do a better job when they know you, but they can give hints about who to avoid, and stingswhich may be in the neighborhood.
[QUOTE=SCUM123]I saw the same girl working today, as I swung around the corner for a pick up, and who is now in front of me… You guessed LE and what does he do… You guessed it again he stops and I think rousts her (I of course continued on). A little later I see her walk down East Avenue looking and waving to cars going by, but I see LE is still driving around. I spilt from the neighborhood, and now I’m second-guessing that she may have been undercover LE, but she is a good 4-5 blocks from where I original saw her. Does anyone think I’m just being paranoid, and should pick her next time? Or just keep looking for someone who is a safer pickup? Back to my previous post “being young and fairly attractive I worried about LE”. Thanks.
SCUM123[/QUOTE]
Yet ANOTHER lesson... Keep Sarah's hands out of your pockets...
Learned a lesson which shoulda been learned a while back???
Driving through OTR, a black guy recognized me on the street --knew that I had met up with Dina in the past (frankly, I didn't recognize him). He said he knew where she was. OK... I park near Findley Market, and he has me follow him. A young lady (Sarah) joins us on the way. We come to the entrance of a hallway, he motions me in. I say no way I'm not going into that secluded hallway, that he should bring her back out. OK, he says, and goes in. Sarah, looking at a street vendor's table, starts in on "I want that pink hat--it's only $7." I say give me a break. But... eventually give her $2 to quiet her down. Dude reappears. Dina's not there, I should follow him. The three of us are heading up the street. He ducks into a doorway, comes back out alone, shrugging his shoulders. I say, never mind this is going nowhere. He again shrugs his disappointment, I leave.
Sarah is now in tow. "I could help you out..." She is a short, sweet, petite young thing who seemed adequately "with it," good conversationialist, made good contact. [;-)], evokes my (stupid) trust. We are off to a secluded dead end side street. She applies quite nice oral attention...After a acceptible 0.2 oral encounter, I take her back near Findlay Market. She wants me to come have a "panties down, butter encounter." She is insistent. No thanks, I repeat, and split the scene.
Later that afternoon... Hmmm... Where IS my cell phone. I have taken great care to carry my monger's wallet with no more than I can risk in my hip pocket. My primary wallet is securely stashed. (If interested, see my "13 rules":
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/s...97&postcount=11[/url]
BUT... a rule NOT included in these 13 is to remove one's cell phone to a distant location...
THEN I read the Boston board about a problem with an SW: one hand in the guy's crotch, the other in his pocket... ([url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=424593&postcount=165)[/url].
The realization hit me what had happened. It seems that her fingers did the walking while her lips were doing the business... Sh*t. How foolish do I feel? Looked everywhere at home and office--no phone. Checked with cell provider: Yep--SOMEONE has been using the phone since... No, they can't trace where it is, even with GPS capability on the phone. (Of course...)
OK, OK--I am, after ALL this time, still the novice...
Bottom line--Empty your pockets of EVERYTHING before practicing the monger's dance... Expensive lessons, these.
With chagrin,
Giani