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[QUOTE=BubbleBoi402;7196760]Totally not worth it.[/QUOTE]I agree. I'm like how many visits does it take LOL I'm butt ass naked on the table what more hints do you need? Nonetheless, she's a sweet lady but I think I'll take my money elsewhere for something guaranteed.
Some masseuses are simply more cautious than others. Jenny has enough legit massage customers such that she doesn't need to push extras. If a client has visited her several times, even if they think they've dropped (wink, wink) numerous hints, it's a mistake to assume she'll make the first move. Just throwing it out there that clients who take the initiative, in a polite and respectful way, will find their efforts richly rewarded. Also, another huge positive is that Jenny won't mention a tip amount and won't haggle over money. That doesn't mean she isn't aware of the going rate, so those who treat her well will end up on her "nice" list. Those who penny-pinch or make her uncomfortable will end up on the other list. To each their own, of course, but Jenny always has a priority place on my "must see this week" calendar.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7197857]Some masseuses are simply more cautious than others. Jenny has enough legit massage customers such that she doesn't need to push extras. If a client has visited her several times, even if they think they've dropped (wink, wink) numerous hints, it's a mistake to assume she'll make the first move. Just throwing it out there that clients who take the initiative, in a polite and respectful way, will find their efforts richly rewarded. Also, another huge positive is that Jenny won't mention a tip amount and won't haggle over money. That doesn't mean she isn't aware of the going rate, so those who treat her well will end up on her "nice" list. Those who penny-pinch or make her uncomfortable will end up on the other list. To each their own, of course, but Jenny always has a priority place on my "must see this week" calendar.[/QUOTE]I'm curious where this particular "Jenny" can be found. I recently tried Nikki's Massage off Old Bridge and drew Jenny. Pretty decent massage and receptive to courtesy and friendly touching of her hands and arms. But there was no indication that she does anything except legit massage. Not complaining and will go back. Just curious if it's the same Jenny?
[QUOTE=TomPayne25;7198293]I'm curious where this particular "Jenny" can be found. I recently tried Nikki's Massage off Old Bridge and drew Jenny. Pretty decent massage and receptive to courtesy and friendly touching of her hands and arms. But there was no indication that she does anything except legit massage. Not complaining and will go back. Just curious if it's the same Jenny?[/QUOTE]Look up body soul and spirit on google. Text that number for appointment. Her massage is really great. Like the other guy posted she definitely won't make the first move. I won't either I just don't feel comfortable with doing that myself so I will just take my money somewhere else. There is another independent lady named Julie that is not as great as Jenny but will make a "oops" sorry I touched you there attempt. PM if interested. Good luck 🫡.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7197857]Some masseuses are simply more cautious than others. Jenny has enough legit massage customers such that she doesn't need to push extras. If a client has visited her several times, even if they think they've dropped (wink, wink) numerous hints, it's a mistake to assume she'll make the first move. Just throwing it out there that clients who take the initiative, in a polite and respectful way, will find their efforts richly rewarded. Also, another huge positive is that Jenny won't mention a tip amount and won't haggle over money. That doesn't mean she isn't aware of the going rate, so those who treat her well will end up on her "nice" list. Those who penny-pinch or make her uncomfortable will end up on the other list. To each their own, of course, but Jenny always has a priority place on my "must see this week" calendar.[/QUOTE]Reads like the provider is great, but it's all customer's fault why he didn't get HJ. Customer needs to know how to initiate in a polite and respective way. Not sure what exactly that means. Also gotta tip enough to stay on the “nice” list for a future potential hj “reward”. Playing this game with entry fee of 120 is absurd.
[QUOTE=BubbleBoi402;7198659]Reads like the provider is great, but it's all customer's fault why he didn't get HJ. Customer needs to know how to initiate in a polite and respective way. Not sure what exactly that means. Also gotta tip enough to stay on the nice list for a future potential hj reward. Playing this game with entry fee of 120 is absurd.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, I don't need to do anything. It was my choice. I didn't say it was the providers fault in the first place. She is very nice. I just don't like the "will she do it or will she not " game. You don't even know what it exactly means to initiate politely so WTF was that comment for? I just don't appreciate fellow mongers assuming I didn't tip enough? I've been in the game long enough to know the tip a provider deserves.
1. Unlicensed FBSM providers for whom the sensual extras are the main focus. Some may be decent, or even good to excellent, in the massage department, which is certainly a bonus, but their business model is centered around the extras they offer. Also, for this type of provider their physical attractiveness is another selling point.
2. Licensed therapeutic-only providers for whom the quality of the massage is the main selling point. Extras are not offered and, although physical attractiveness is a plus, it's not essential for their business model to be successful.
3. Licensed therapeutic providers who are willing to provide extras. IME, this category can be further subdivided, as follows:
A. Therapeutic masseuses who are more forward when it comes to offering extras, and;.
B. Therapeutic masseuses who are more cautious when it comes to offering extras.
Unless I'm mistaken, this sub-forum is primarily for the discussion of masseuses falling into Category 3. My previous post was intended solely for pointing out where (Body, Soul, & Spirit) Jenny falls in that spectrum. It was not my intent to imply that any particular client is at fault, as I don't believe there's any fault to be apportioned. It's simply a matter of recognizing, and matching, the expectations of both sides of the transaction. For those clients who don't want to do that, fair enough. For those clients who choose to take the position that any issue is entirely the provider's fault, that's your prerogative. My post was aimed at those who might wish to continue seeing Jenny and were wondering how to get to the next level. There are dozens of providers out there, and some are a better fit than others for various reasons. For me, Jenny's attractiveness and quality of service (massage + extras), make seeing her a no-brainer.
About my comment on tipping, that also wasn't meant to blame any particular client. However, for anyone who has ever had a substantive conversation with any massage provider, you've undoubtedly heard stories of clients who tip very little, or not at all. Jenny, as is also the case with KK, Tara, and a few others, does not ask for a tip (ever) and will never haggle or upsell. That's a huge plus, IMO, as money discussions always kill my mood. And that's a big reason I prefer such masseuses to others. My point, which is applicable to all non-haggle providers, is simply that they remember who compensates them fairly.
Just my two-cents' worth, and every monger can do with it what they will. From the way my inbox has blown up with inquiries re Jenny, however, it certainly looks like there's a high degree of positive interest out there.
[QUOTE=MrEnding;7198609]Look up body soul and spirit on google. Text that number for appointment. Her massage is really great. Like the other guy posted she definitely won't make the first move. I won't either I just don't feel comfortable with doing that myself so I will just take my money somewhere else. There is another independent lady named Julie that is not as great as Jenny but will make a "oops" sorry I touched you there attempt. PM if interested. Good luck 🫡.[/QUOTE]Where is Julie located?
[QUOTE=Skooby;7209460]Where is Julie located?[/QUOTE]See message #79 - (perhaps it was not visible / posted when you asked your question).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
[QUOTE=MrEnding;7198609]Look up body soul and spirit on google. Text that number for appointment. Her massage is really great. Like the other guy posted she definitely won't make the first move. I won't either I just don't feel comfortable with doing that myself so I will just take my money somewhere else. There is another independent lady named Julie that is not as great as Jenny but will make a "oops" sorry I touched you there attempt. PM if interested. Good luck 🫡.[/QUOTE]'Are you referring to the Julie / Mai that used to work at Bvld Haircuts? I've been searching to reconnect with her for over a year.
[QUOTE=PilotAviator;7209811]See message #79 - (perhaps it was not visible / posted when you asked your question).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.[/QUOTE]Is body soul and spirit referencing Jenny or Julie? In post #79 it read as if it's referencing jenny. When I google body soul and spirit the reviews say jenny not Julie.
[QUOTE=Skooby;7212293]Is body soul and spirit referencing Jenny or Julie? In post #79 it read as if it's referencing jenny. When I google body soul and spirit the reviews say jenny not Julie.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure it's Jenny you are looking for. She gives an outstanding massage and a nice finish.
Pyle.
[QUOTE=CVilleCub;7106934]Shout out to Mr Ending for the above review. You inspired me to make the trip out to Vitality to see if I could get the same experience.
I usually go to these places as the last appointment before they close cause I hate when someone rings the doorbell while I'm getting a massage. I called ahead just to make sure they weren't slammed. Walked up the stairs of a typical joint townhouse office building, the downstairs office was closed at this point. Waiting for me was a (best guess) late 50's short and kind of thick Korean lady named Lily. Said she had been there for 2 years. She asked how long I wanted, I said an hour, to which she replied "ok 75". I look at the sign of prices behind her and it said 1 hour was 70. So I pointed that out and she quickly said "oh yes 70.75 if you want hard massage". Obviously its only $5 but I didn't really appreciate the early attempt to hustle me haha.
Was directed into one of the 4 rooms. Didn't get a glimpse of any of the other girls who might be working there, but I imagine there was at least one hanging out in a different room. Like many of you I'm no stranger to AMPs so I laid down without the towel and she came in and immediately said "oh good". Massage was honestly very enjoyable, firm and thorough with a good amount of teasing. Similar to OP, she gave me compliments periodically and had insanely soft hands, so I'm assuming its the same lady, but maybe that's just their M. O.
No real negotiation on the flip, gave me a slow L1 alternating techniques. She kept reaching down like she wanted to stick a finger up my bum but that's not really my thing and she never fully went for it LOL but if it is your thing I would guess its on the table.
7+.6 solid experience. I've spent too much time going to these FS AMPs and forgot what a real relaxing L1 massage was like.
Looking forward to future experiences. Will keep checking this thread for any gems people are willing to share.
Happy hunting gents![/QUOTE]I was only treated to a great massage and nothing more.
[QUOTE=RobSquad;7213306]I was only treated to a great massage and nothing more.[/QUOTE]Did you get the same frumpy lady as the other reviewers or different one?
[QUOTE=Boulder1028;7215973]Did you get the same frumpy lady as the other reviewers or different one?[/QUOTE]Not sure. She was wearing a red top and frail. Made it pretty obvious on the flip and even inquired, but was told that didn't happen there.
I'll prolly go back cause the massage was great. But i guess I'll have to keep looking for a one stop shop .