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This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.
[QUOTE=Goodfootfun;2839899]This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.[/QUOTE]I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.
[QUOTE=SomeoneNew;2839396]Ok, having my first post asking for recommendations was not cool. I apologize. To the person who did send me a PM, Thank you very much! I got your message too late, but I very much appreciate advice.
[/QUOTE]The newbie who asks "where's the best place for X service" isn't going to do well, but a question showing that you've read posts and have done research, but need some clarification, will get you assistance. Sharing information as you've done is definitely a good move.
Despite the suspicious eye towards newbies, especially the clueless ones (who you'll quickly come to find annoying as well, LOL), people who want to "join the club" and participate are certainly welcome.
[blue]I would like to associate myself with these remarks. Guys asking procedural questions that are new should be helped, lazy fucking douchbags should be ignored.
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At a spot on Backlick. Tina is a slender, cute therapist (tight body, be-cups) who gives a nice massage, more than Swedish but not quite deep-deep tissue. She has a pleasant and playful personality, and I recommend.
I had some therapy here in herndun. Used to be called Feeling, too. I was met by Kim who is early 40's with medium height, shoulder length hair with a C/D size rack and only a little pudge on her middle. Pretty decent looks 7/8 out of 10. She was extremely reluctant to give her name. I had to beg her to tell me her name, so I could pass it along to you folks. Anyway, the details of the TS was she was always covering me in the junk with a cloth even though I kept moving it and she said I had to DIY to this region even with me putting her hand there. Boo. I was then thinking this isn't good and she wouldn't tell me her name, but I kept moving on next to the sauna. Baked a few minutes and saw another provider in hall who was less attractive, shorter and curly shorter hair. Definitely had the better of the two today was what I realized. In room she asks what type of massage and I opt to just do light and no back walking. Towards end she says I can DIY for stress relief and I frowned. After many attempts to encourage, she finally broke down and gave me a handshake. All in all I would say less than a standard experience and way too unfriendly for me.
Good Day.
As anyone who's been following my posts over the past 6 months can attest, I've been exploring the Chinese MILFs quite a bit. However, for a change of pace (and because I truly wanted to find a decent massage), I decided to visit one of the many AMPs in the NoVa area. There was one I hadn't noticed before, and it seems to have been posting on BP (under the "Body Rubs") section for only a couple months. So, I opted for that AMP: [B][red]Royal Massage[/red][/B] on Old Courthouse Road near Tysons Corner. Parking was very easy at the time I went, although it [U]is[/U] located in one of the 2-story commercial complexes that dot Old Courthouse Road.
The set-up is identical to most such AMPs: Outer door, foyer area, and inner door (at the top of the steps). House fee was. 8 for the hour. From the outside, though, there is nothing to identify this as much of anything, though. It appears to be just another one of the businesses there, which it is.
The woman who answered the door gave her name as Hannah (pronounced that way, rather than as "Hana" as some AMP girls are named). She escorted me to the room, asked if I wanted a shower (which, on this occasion, I declined since I had just showered an hour earlier), put a new sheet on the massage table, took the house fee, and told me to get ready. When she returned, she asked how I wanted the massage. Light, medium, or strong. And proceeded to give a very nice, deep tissue massage over the next 45 minutes. She was very deliberate. Not rushed. And I enjoyed a very nice rubdown, with particular attention to the back and shoulder muscles. Then, for the remaining 15 minutes, she proceeded to finish up with the very same deliberate attention. I left completely satisfied and will probably make a return visit, even though this is slightly out of the way for me. Due to the quality of the massage, I tipped. 5 instead of the customary. 4 at most AMPs.
During the conversation, Hannah indicated that she's came from Korea to Washington DC about 7 years ago and has remained here throughout that time. Her dream is to make a visit back home in the next year or so to see friends and family. She's a nice girl, and I'd like to think she'll be able to achieve that dream.
As for the details about the establishment itself, the sheets were new and clean (no "recycling" the interior lacked any aromas of food or mildew, and the general appearance was one of a well-kept establishment. As for Hannah herself, she is probably late-30's to mid-40's (a little hard to tell, and I didn't want to ask), medium height, shoulder-length brown hair, decent looks (7. 5 out of 10), decent body (7. 5 out of 10) with natural 34-Cs, about 120#, and very pleasant.
Consider visiting this establishment, if you're in the general area of Tysons Corner, as I think you'll be very pleased and satisfied. Although this was my first visit, I found it to be a solid experience.
Dude, I don't know you but I know everything you speak of. You just brought back some serious memories.
DC in the late '90's. Jeez. My favorite was Ginza. I spent so much time there it felt like going to a friends house when I went. I never went through the front door.
Wonder where Connie is today?
Another great place was FCCC. Man, I hate that place is gone. You never knew what you'd get but it was good most of the time. I remember going there one time and some dude (one of you for sure) was plowing the hell out of some chick on the other side of the sheet that separated off the living room and making a ton of noise doing it. If anyone finds another FCCC, please PM me. I did talk to the chick that once ran it but they do motels now. I don't do motels. CC's mostly now for the variety but it's obvious to me that they don't fully understand the nuances of 'where best' to rent, unlike FCCC which was perfectly placed.
It's a new day but there's still tons there. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=SeoulOmio;2828724]My glory days may have passed me by. Relish yours, as you never know when they may end. Perhaps mine will return someday, after all the tuitions have been paid, if I have a modicum of virility remaining by then, let alone a beating heart at all. In the meantime, let me take you on a little trip down my own memory lane and regale you with boring stories of my own glory days. For those interested in the latest news from the newest spot, you're better off moving on now; if you like to browse the random thoughts of others, then read on.
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Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2840182]I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NukeyNuke;2855279]Dude, I don't know you but I know everything you speak of. You just brought back some serious memories.
DC in the late '90's. Jeez. My favorite was Ginza. I spent so much time there it felt like going to a friends house when I went. I never went through the front door.
Wonder where Connie is today?
Another great place was FCCC. Man, I hate that place is gone. You never knew what you'd get but it was good most of the time. I remember going there one time and some dude (one of you for sure) was plowing the hell out of some chick on the other side of the sheet that separated off the living room and making a ton of noise doing it. If anyone finds another FCCC, please PM me. I did talk to the chick that once ran it but they do motels now. I don't do motels. CC's mostly now for the variety but it's obvious to me that they don't fully understand the nuances of 'where best' to rent, unlike FCCC which was perfectly placed.
It's a new day but there's still tons there. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Don't get us all started about the good old days. Ginza, Downtown, Golden, HWC etc. You could open the back of the post's sports page and every AMP listed was F / S. Every one of them were in competition for your business so the service was off the chart. I still visit one of my old DC AMP fav's gone Indy on occasion that never left the area. I remember the first CC or FCCC that was near the Gallow & Lee hwy. My old buddy Nick ran it until trouble found him. I often wonder what ever happened to him, He was THE MAN!
[QUOTE=VamassageFan;2855318]Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.[/QUOTE]Since he was the one with the original AMP issue. My only point was to confirm that it's unlikely he's going to find a good massage (extras or no extras) at $45 per hour. FWIW, I've had much better results with independent FBSM providers. The same principle applies, once you become a regular and she gets comfortable with you, the menu usually expands. The added benefit is that an independent provider doesn't have to share her $ and you don't have to worry about county licensing (or LEO) walking in during your session.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2855776][QUOTE=VamassageFan;2855318][QUOTE=JmSuttr;2840182][QUOTE=Goodfootfun;2839899]This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.[/QUOTE]
I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.[/QUOTE]
Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.[/QUOTE]
Since he was the one with the original AMP issue. My only point was to confirm that it's unlikely he's going to find a good massage (extras or no extras) at $45 per hour. FWIW, I've had much better results with independent FBSM providers. The same principle applies, once you become a regular and she gets comfortable with you, the menu usually expands. The added benefit is that an independent provider doesn't have to share her $ and you don't have to worry about county licensing (or LEO) walking in during your session.[/QUOTE]To add to what JmSuttr advises, I've found that the independent Asians who advertise under the "Body Rubs" section of Backpage tend to take this approach. Your first visit might only entail FBSM (or, perhaps more will even be available on your first visit); follow-up visits will very often see an expansion of the menu. In fact, some of the Asian escorts appear to be listing their ads in the "Body Rubs" section as a means of keeping a lower profile.
Think about it: Listing an ad in the "Escort" section immediately puts a red flag on their service, but listing an ad in the "Body Rubs" section keeps it semi-legitimate. Besides, once the customer is in the room and the session has begun, the girl can always judge whether the customer is looking only for a "massage" or something more. (Ever wonder why so many of them seem to lightly touch the tip of your tool, while you're laying face-down and she's working your leg muscles?)
My point is what JmSuttr's post implies: that you can often find a full menu with some of the Asian providers who advertise in Backpage's "Body Rubs" section but don't advertise in the "Escort" section. (This also gives the girl some degree of deniability, in case friends or family happen to see the ad.).
[QUOTE=SomeoneNew;2839396]Ok, having my first post asking for recommendations was not cool. I apologize. To the person who did send me a PM, Thank you very much! I got your message too late, but I very much appreciate advice.
Looking on here and another site, I settled on checking out Cosmos for my second experience. Jenny met me at the door and was very sweet. She is attractive and spoke fluent English.
Which was everything my first experience was not. Had my first TS and very much enjoyed. After scrubbing for a while, Jenny asked if there was anywhere I needed cleaned and.
Still being a noob, I grabbed the area myself instead of guiding her there. I corrected the error quickly and we both had a laugh at it.
The massage was good. She got up on the table after a while and walked on my back. Another first for me. It was very interesting. Way more pressure than I was expecting.
But not painful. She asked me to flip and did a quick rub around the legs and chest, then she asked if there was anywhere else I needed relaxing. I did not make the same.
Mistake from the TS. Afterwards she got some really hot towels and pressed on my back and face. It was a very happy experience. The house got. 8 and I gave Jenny. 4.
She gave me a little hug and I was on my way. I plan to return.[/QUOTE]After Reading this post decided to visit the AMP and I asked for Jenny. After 20 minute wait, finally she came (Not attractive as mentioned here). 35 to 40 year lady with very very small (.)(.).
She didn't forget to ask how I know her. I told that I have been here but she was very sure that she is seeing me first time. (is it ok to say like this).
Had a TS. She asked to clean my shaft but I guided her hand to it to which she happily did that. Then had a good decent message. Gave her. 4 tip and. 8 house fee and left.
[QUOTE=Serpico99;2836047]Stop by See and See off of Grant in Hurrrrrdone. I got the manager (I think her name is Kim) who was the only one working. Some mongers think she's frumpy but I find her to be ok, looks wise, but most importantly, she doesn't hustle you for a tip and is playful. I have had a bad experience with June, who I think still is working there based on reviews from another board and although June looks better than Kim, her attitude sucks.
Anyway, it's 80/ hr. Gave 60 for noVa + experience. Place has TS.
Stats: manager is probably almost hitting 50 or early 50's, 5'4"-ish, straight black hair, natural Cs. The entrance is on the back of a small strip mall building so it's discreet.[/QUOTE]I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.
I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.
I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.
She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.
Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).
And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).
I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.
Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.
She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"
I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)
I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).
Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.
I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.
[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2860544]I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.
I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.
I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.
She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.
Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).
And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).
I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.
Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.
She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"
I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)
I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).
Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.
I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of points about your experience:
While it definitely sounds as if Amy is worth avoiding, I don't think it's technically correct to label her as an ROB. After all, she did provide the service and she didn't even haggle / upsell you beforehand. That being said, she was obviously unhappy with the tip amount and raised a stink, and that's absolutely not cool and no client should put up with that. IMHO, a true ROB is someone who takes the cash and provides nothing in return.
And that leads me to my second point, which is that it's very unlikely that Amy will be able to continue working at that AMP without a major attitude adjustment. My reasoning is simply that, just like you, there is no way any experienced AMP client is going to leave $120 as a tip for standard or even enhanced NOVA finish. Which means that each time a client tries to leave the typical $40-$60 tip, she's going to create a scene like she did with you. But that can only go on for so long before it generates an adverse reaction by MMS or the owner, because they don't want to have any problems and there's always a chance that a client, who doesn't handle the situation in as gentlemanly a manner as you did, may create an even bigger scene.
So it wouldn't surprise me if the next time you called you found out that Amy was no longer there. But, even if she is, now that you know the drill, all you need to do is tell MMS that you don't want Amy as your therapist. If she asks why (although of course she already knows this) just tell her the truth, namely that Amy overcharges and you don't appreciate her attitude.
FWIW, even the best AMP sometimes gets a bad apple, but the other masseuses may still be worth your time. If you do decided to visit again, let us know if Amy is still around or she's been shown the door.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2860544]I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.
I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.
I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.
She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.
Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).
And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).
I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.
Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.
She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"
I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)
I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).
Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.
I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.[/QUOTE]120 for the TIP? Not total, right? What was the house fee?