[QUOTE=HowzIt50;6312879]This one if for the long time mongers: How can you tell if one of these providers is LE? Been reading some of the tweets from providers in other places, and it seems like there's been a crackdown on prostitution in their areas. It's been making me a little nervous. I know it's bad for these women to get busted too. But I really am curious how you long timers manage to avoid problems. Thanks in advance for your thoughts![/QUOTE]At Blake123 already responded with some good advice. He mentioned a monger getting busted during a meet up, it was a reverse sting. That was me. It sucked.
Got to do your homework when trying to meet good providers that are legit, provide what you want, and at the price you want to pay.
First, reviewing this board (and others) is a good start. It's time consuming to wade through all the BS posts. But if you want to ensure your own safety and get your money's worth, you got to do the homework.
Second, cross check ads posted on various websites showing escorts. Simple trick is look at 'visiting dates' from one city to another, before she gets to Honolulu. Tr*stlink does a good job of showing tour dates.
Third, go to specific 'escort review' sites and check out if she has anything about her.
Fourth, follow her rules explicitly that she states in her ads about how to get a date. Some girls want far too many details about you and pics of I'd and such, more than a lot of guys are willing to do. You have to pick your comfort and security level. But in this day and age, you just have to know that's a regular thing now. You might want to consider posting an account on LinkedIN that is about you, or some other website, that is totally legit, but she can verify who you are. Thats way easier than sending a copy of your drivers license photo.
Fifth, consider the platform she is advertising on. There are a few places that have ads for escorts that I don't trust and won't use. Are they TGTBT? Yes, and likely are scams. So stick with websites that you KNOW others are using and have had success.
Always meet the date in her room, on time, as directed. You have done nothing illegal if you simply 'show up' in a room as you mutually agreed and consented to and you have NOT exchanged money yet, nor directly spoke about sex. You have to carefully discuss what you both know is going to happen, avoid specific questions like "Do you do BJ's with a cover or no?" That's a dumb ass question.
All providers that advertise know you're going to have sex for a certain amount of money. It's why I was getting pissed at more providers that advertise that shy away from a menu of services and rates. If they direct you to their personal website for details, that's great. But again, in all correspondence just be generic with your request, like:
"Can we meet for an hour, on Tuesday night at 8:00 PM? I'd like to enjoy your full service menu".
A lot of this seems so simple and common sense, it almost seems stupid to say. But if you've been reading this board for any amount of time, you'll see a lot of guys learn the hard way. Or they never learn. So maybe what I've shared is obvious, maybe it isn't. But for sure, there are newbies out there that will read with interest, but you'll never hear from them.
Finally, 'deposits' are a tough call. A lot of girls have taken to asking for deposits. My suggestion is, do everything else first to check on her. If you truly believe she is legit, and trust everything you know about her from doing ALL the homework I have mentioned above and are satisfied this is a real person, then contact her initially and do all that she asks. However, do NOT do the deposit until everything else is set (the day and time you requested). If she is asking for 50% deposit, very respectfully reply back, "I believe that is too much right now. How about this. " and then offer her a little up front to secure your date reservation. And then on the day or night before you actually meet, offer a little more of her deposit request.
In other words, if its a scam, you won't lose out on a lot of cash. If she really wants to see you, she'll accept your offer. Reaching out to her again before you actually meet, with her replying back, will confirm both ways that you are both legit and serious about a meet. It will also allow you to get a sense of he communication skills and demeanor. Warm up to each other. Deposits can make or break a date. So you have to be skillful and use gentle persuasion to give her SOME of what she wants, but not all.
Again, through all the negotiation, be tactful on words you choose and not speak directly about sex or exchanging money for sex. If you can do this, then she will also get the sense you're not a cop either. It's hard work. But any good "investment" only pays off when you do your homework.
I can tell you the horror stories about walking into a scenario where you get busted with a hard on by two HPD vice guys. You don't want to live through that. Trust me.
Good luck.
DM.
