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[QUOTE=Chupacabra;6838191]I think the percentage of fake / scammer in your reviews is pretty telling. It's consistent with what I experienced, too. They are pimping their OF account, they want money for pics, they want money for online chats, they want "findom" where apparently they just berate you for money (I want to strangle the simps who even allowed this to become a thing in the first place. It's like having an ex-wife without even sex or kids WTF is wrong with you), they want money just to go to lunch (payment upfront of course), they don't actually have sex they just are there for companionship or to pose nude without you touching them or to paddle your ass, or they bounce 30 seconds after the deed (basically just pros). The list goes on.[/QUOTE]The problem is 99.9% of the fake / scammer profiles are not the content created or SB that's selling you the pics / videos. It is some guy in some foreign country who has stolen their content and selling it to you on SA. I have only met one real SB who was selling her content out of the thousands of fake profiles that I have come across. She was able to verify herself through video chat. The rest decline to verify themselves through video chat then you know it's not them in the pics.

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;6838504]Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.[/QUOTE]Also, forgot to say. SA cannot delete your account because you copy and paste. You probably violated their TOS. Did you use the words per meet or ppm in your messages?

Also, if enough SB accounts report you, your account will be flagged and sometimes SA will require you to verify yourself before you can use the account again. SA will ask you for your I'd for verification.

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;6838504]Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.[/QUOTE]They won't bill you, they don't want chargebacks.

Yep they warned me before for sending the same copy and paste LOL. I would do what you said, customize the first few lines, then paste the bait but I got lazy toward the end and was just mass pasting. Too many fake profiles, but found some gems but the amount of time to weed them out was getting rough.

Thanks for the info, the billing was my biggest concern. I needed a break from it anyway.

Thanks again.

AD.

[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6838621]Also, forgot to say. SA cannot delete your account because you copy and paste. You probably violated their TOS. Did you use the words per meet or ppm in your messages?

Also, if enough SB accounts report you, your account will be flagged and sometimes SA will require you to verify yourself before you can use the account again. SA will ask you for your I'd for verification.[/QUOTE]

Understood thank you!

[QUOTE=RanManCan;6838917]They won't bill you, they don't want chargebacks.[/QUOTE]

Yep they suspended me once or twice way back year or so ago, but I was cut and pasting a sweet short opener and I'd send it over and over LOL. I had girls ignore me and finally respond, and we ended up hooking up, more than a few times. So I would be persistent as the reward came through on many occasions.

I used an old card I rarely use so I'll keep an eye on the statement.

Appreciate it!

Thanks.

AD.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6838581]IDK specifically, but if you gave them a real credit card #, first of all, shame on you. Most of us go w / prepaid debit cards. It seems likely if you don't have a profile they can't bill you. But if it is your real cc, you can always go to the card issuer if they bill you and dispute the charge.

Yeah, they do sometimes get their back up if the identical message is sent to too many. Say it is spam. However, the first offense of that (which I have endured), they usually just suspend the profile for 24 hours, then give it back to you. You just have to be careful about how many you send. I also, just for my own advantage, typically customize openers, then put in my usual text blocks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;6839179]Yep they warned me before for sending the same copy and paste LOL. I would do what you said, customize the first few lines, then paste the bait but I got lazy toward the end and was just mass pasting. Too many fake profiles, but found some gems but the amount of time to weed them out was getting rough.

Thanks for the info, the billing was my biggest concern. I needed a break from it anyway.

Thanks again.

AD.[/QUOTE]Oh really? That's weird. I have been using the same message and copying and pasting it for years now. I've never gotten a warning before. I've been using the same message and mass-sending it. Did anyone else get this warning message? Can someone share a screenshot of the warning message? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;6839185]Yep they suspended me once or twice way back year or so ago, but I was cut and pasting a sweet short opener and I'd send it over and over LOL. I had girls ignore me and finally respond, and we ended up hooking up, more than a few times. So I would be persistent as the reward came through on many occasions.

I used an old card I rarely use so I'll keep an eye on the statement.

Appreciate it!

Thanks.

AD.[/QUOTE]I think you send out too many messages at once. If you send out over 20 or 30 messages at once in less than 15 minutes (this is ballpark estimate, not exact) they suspend your account for a period of time, like a few hours. They won't delete your account because you use copy and paste messages.

That happened a year or two ago, I had to email them saying it was me & not spam, I even admitted I was too lazy to create fresh emails every time LOL, they re-instated me.

I think maybe a pro reported me because I would talk a little shit, not much, but when they would fire prices off at me sometimes I'd come back snarky, probably a culmination of all those.

All good, it was going downhill I'm taking a break back to civi action.

[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6839396]I think you send out too many messages at once. If you send out over 20 or 30 messages at once in less than 15 minutes (this is ballpark estimate, not exact) they suspend your account for a period of time, like a few hours. They won't delete your account because you use copy and paste messages.[/QUOTE]

Do women (SBs) douche anymore? And is it effective in keeping 'dog breath' at bay? I was in the FC today w / a young latina, and things were seemingly fine, but then we got into some pretty intense finger banging and other sorts of banging, and a whiff became apparent.

I was traveling a couple of years ago, in Chicago, and ended up w / a road baby in my room. She mentioned she had just completed her monthly, and OMG. There was going to be no DATY in that case. It just boggles my mind a gal could come to the FC thinking this would be OK. Especially when we're sugaring them.

This is not something you can gently tell a girl you've taken to the FC. I see no alternative but to ghost when it happens. Which is mostly against my constitution.

I just had a girl in the FC last weekend, and she sported a cold sore. So, no kissing, and no BJ. Again, if a girl knows this, shouldn't she tell you that she is not 100% and say skip the FC this time, rather than show up to get sugared w / a sub-par experience? I mean, I guess they know not to set up a date and then when you get there, she springs that she is on her monthly. In this case, I sent a follow-up text saying I looked forward to doing those things w / her once she was 100% healthy. That I have gotten radio silence suggests to me our 'relationship' will be a short one.

BTW, my FC today, it was in a hotel from dayuse. We were relaxing afterward, and we could hear a couple in the next room going at it. 100% the hotels know what their 'guests' for day rooms are enjoying. Sure hope they change those sheets.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6842739]Do women (SBs) douche anymore? And is it effective in keeping 'dog breath' at bay? I was in the FC today w / a young latina, and things were seemingly fine, but then we got into some pretty intense finger banging and other sorts of banging, and a whiff became apparent.[/QUOTE]I've posted about this a number of times. Used to be a real issue for me, but I found the solution.

Yes, it is something you can tell them in the FC, you can even have them fix it right there with the wipes/rinse below. Without judgement or disgust, calmly tell them they have a bit of bacterial vagenosis, a very common condition due to a lack of acidity (ph balance). And the solution is boric acid.

Long term fix: Tell them to insert this nightly before bed until the bottle is gone, even if they miss a night or the odor supposedly disappears, keep going. A few nights will clear it up, all 12 capsules will fix for many months.
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/pH-D-Feminine-Health-Suppositories-Alternative/dp/B08SR1699Z/[/URL]

Same date solutions:
Rinse - [URL]https://www.amazon.com/pH-D-Instant-Odor-Rinse-Boric/dp/B0991WVTM7/[/URL].
Wipes - [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Monistat-Maintain-Feminine-Wipes-Fragrance/dp/B0CFX7XCZ7[/URL].

I keep a stack of all the above, very inexpensive solution.

I'm sure hotels change sheets between guests, it's the comforter that's super gross!

[QUOTE=Sipping;6810894]

Venus: Chinese-American girl, early 20's, exactly my type: tall, slender and tight, lots of tattoos. Gorgeous and she knows it. Well educated and well spoken. All bare. Very good in bed, extraordinarily good BJs. Pricing variable, but you will likely need to get to know her before you can start talking details. I think her profile makes clear that she wants some time and effort put into the process; I can verify that is the case. Completely a non-pro experience.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab0e24a-5a00-4dc1-a0ea-a6a588bbad31[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I messaged her a couple of days ago with an introduction. I didn't ask about her monetary needs or give an offer, it was strictly introductory. She responded with "You sound cool, but I'm really expensive to date. Good Luck " and then blocked me.

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;6838185]None that I know of. I always used SA off and on, so that's the only "sugar bowl" I know. Back in the day it was good to great, but now I think that what's left on both sides are just too jaded + the true hotties are running off to OF or other social media which has both drained the pool and inflated the sugar rates to ludicrous levels for the 4's-7's that remain. When I can get a better connection and more intimacy from a regular Kgirl or a masseuse at a fraction of the price and without any attitude, it's time to move on from SA. Who knows, maybe it will experience a renaissance but I won't hold my breath.

There's another poster I forget his handle right now, he has gone back to old school ways of just chatting up young cashiers and waitresses and hinting at sugar. I think he hands out business cards too. I may try that route. LOL I think the passive guys who have no game and no balls to use escorts who actually call themselves escorts instead of "sugar babies" (simps) are still on SA chasing a dwindling crop of increasingly cynical talent and the prices are going insane as a result, so the better values now require some legwork like tracking them down on social medial and chatting them up, or even going old school in person. Or if you want to just order up some pussy then stick with Kgirls and maybe Humaniplex. My two cents.[/QUOTE]The asking $ per value of SB on SA just don't seem to compute to me from a perspective of "service" provided vs what can be had from the pros which is already YMMV. I suppose the relationship for SD & SB is unique for some that can & are willing to pony up & pay the girls on SA. I've tried SA while traveled to SE Asia, its the same except the rate and exchange rate is favorable for USD spenders. Only had one lucky draw of a PSE nympho and the rest is same as Chupacabra described, demanding a bunch and putting out minimal effort.

What other online sources to find the UTR gems? May be stick to the pros to save time and frustration.

Is the era of easy sugaring over? I discovered SA 9 years ago and it seemed much better. Anyone have success on other venues like hinge or SA or ig? SA was great for married guys. Harder to do on social media.

Still I did find a real college grad student type from ucla and it didn't last too long but it was within the last month. A lot more trans, not into that. Seems bleak. Where the good ones went I don't know. I am not sure its OF because all the SBs I know who did the OF thing ended up quitting quickly. Hopefully they ban tiktok LOL.

I spent yesterday morning in the FC w / the instagram model I've posted about before. Early 30's, gorgeous, smoking slender fit body, European, blond. When I met her I offered her my max, 500, and she thought that was overly generous. Not the scenario many here complain about. So how did I fall into this? I treat her like someone I want to date, not someone I just want to fuck. And, one of the biggest issues I hear from the quality women I contact on the site, I always use a cover and I have current STD tests. Being nice to them goes a long long way. I don't think this can be faked.

She has no visible means of support, and she is a wild spender. She just got a cosmetic procedure that I am sure cost many many thousands, but that $ didn't come from me. I presume she must have some amazing benefactor that *is* giving her the crazy $ that many girls are requesting of you complainers. She will drive to whatever part of southern California I am working in, away from my home base for safety, to meet me in the FC. Yesterday, I spent an inordinately long time w / her riding me, she has the most pneumatic, perky, firm breasts that I absolutely relished viewing with her on top.