Saw her mentioned not too long ago. Any you guys have any intel you are willing to share?
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Saw her mentioned not too long ago. Any you guys have any intel you are willing to share?
[QUOTE=WailOnSkydog;5599762]So here's my deal. I moved here from Maryland back in April. I didn't even know about this site until I moved here. Luckily, I had a couple of regulars who I could trust.
The shit going on here is Out Of Control. And it's all the fucking drugs. Not weed. Not even some blow. But BS meth and opioids. We need to figure out a way to keep our hobby safe. As I have mentioned before I CC and know how to take care of myself in tough situations. But getting into a gun fight with a bunch of dope heads does me no good. Maybe we get together and regularly get a room or rooms at a safe hotel and bring trusted scores there? I know this sounds crazy but we need to come up with ideas to overcome this bullshit. What are your thoughts fellow mongers?[/QUOTE]I also moved here a while ago. Want to get into the scene here but some of the stuff here is scaring me, especially re: the STG girls. For example, I'd love to try to see Ronnie, but idk how safe her situation is. I'm on P411 but not many ladies on there, and I'm not interested in the mature ladies. There are even some scams on Eros that have been called out recently. I came close making some meetings work but between scheduling issues and limited options it hasn't happened yet.
What Jax is really missing that I had back where I came from is some solid, well reputed agencies. There, I was screened with several agencies and was able to quickly see who was working on a given day and then make a meeting happen with 30 minutes-1 hour notice. I didn't have to worry about all the drama that I see on here. For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to exist in Jax.
[QUOTE=HooserDaddy;5609779]Curious if anybody has seen Liza lately or has any update. Asking because I'm talking to her from an ad I saw on Tryst but haven't seen any reviews about her since June. When I searched her name saw a lot of talk about somebody using her pics & info while she was in jail among other things. Any help would be appreciated. I.
Just don't want to waste my time if not her.[/QUOTE]The person / thing / fake who is using her # off that ad is not her, since asking for money upfront, which she never did before. Also, sends pics to you, but it is not her.
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Has anyone seen this hotty yet?
Please share.
Can not compare with providers in NYC or Philly. I get so depressed every time I think about ladies I used to visit in NE. I have never seen so many providers actively involved in drugs. Dope boys are very empowered to say the least. Girls are stupid as well and they spend all their money on drugs.
I have visited at least 15 to 20 providers here and I can only name 2 good ones (Jojo and Harley). Rest of them are just not up to professional standards. Some have good attitude with bad bodies, huge gut and weathered face. Some have bad attitude with horrible communication. Even some quality ones will turn bad after few visits. I have had sex with some which I would never have had even for free if I am in NE. I question myself every time why I keep wasting money on this hobby here IN JAX.
Part of the issue I believe is directly from us. We do not demand quality service here. Too many guys just pay and get a warm body with three warm holes. Many of them have never experienced quality providers. I am not talking about GFE, it is just gross thinking about GFE with these providers.
[QUOTE=WailOnSkydog;5599762]So here's my deal. I moved here from Maryland back in April. I didn't even know about this site until I moved here. Luckily, I had a couple of regulars who I could trust.
The shit going on here is Out Of Control. And it's all the fucking drugs. Not weed. Not even some blow. But BS meth and opioids. We need to figure out a way to keep our hobby safe. As I have mentioned before I CC and know how to take care of myself in tough situations. But getting into a gun fight with a bunch of dope heads does me no good. Maybe we get together and regularly get a room or rooms at a safe hotel and bring trusted scores there? I know this sounds crazy but we need to come up with ideas to overcome this bullshit. What are your thoughts fellow mongers?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoboTwitch;5610278]It's funny how she claims to have her shit together and specifically mentions hygiene. When I've seen reports of her having a bad odor down below. Has her shit together, yet can't spend 3 $ on a douche.
And the comment about us being on their time. Fuck that nonsense. Exactly that attitude that gets us ripped of 80% of the time. We're the customer. They want OUR money.
I'm not so crass to say they need to sit down and shut up and do what they're told, but fuck that attitude.[/QUOTE]Exactly!! I swear some of these girls are just nuts. With the amount of money they ask for, you would think they could by a bar of soap and wash their asses right.
[QUOTE=PokeTiger;5610911]Can not compare with providers in NYC or Philly. I get so depressed every time I think about ladies I used to visit in NE. I have never seen so many providers actively involved in drugs. Dope boys are very empowered to say the least. Girls are stupid as well and they spend all their money on drugs.
I have visited at least 15 to 20 providers here and I can only name 2 good ones (Jojo and Harley). Rest of them are just not up to professional standards. Some have good attitude with bad bodies, huge gut and weathered face. Some have bad attitude with horrible communication. Even some quality ones will turn bad after few visits. I have had sex with some which I would never have had even for free if I am in NE. I question myself every time why I keep wasting money on this hobby here IN JAX.
Part of the issue I believe is directly from us. We do not demand quality service here. Too many guys just pay and get a warm body with three warm holes. Many of them have never experienced quality providers. I am not talking about GFE, it is just gross thinking about GFE with these providers.[/QUOTE]Like most of the providers here in jax are pretty drugged out of there mind. And that's why some seniors on here preach about red flags and to take them extremely serious. But some dudes just don't listen and just don't care or know about this site. It didn't used to be this bad but the decline has really hit. And I don't think we've reached the bottom yet.
The best thing I can advise is try the strip scene at least you know are visually getting what you pay for but it will definitely be on the expensive side.
This is all horrible news reading through the forum.
I just jumped back on USAG to check for potential dreams since I haven't had a dream in probably three years and jeez it looks bad.
Here I am thinking the hot girls needing rent money should be overflowing with the collapsing economy but holy shit has it seemed like things took a nose dive.
So I say to myself, check the strip clubs thread. Nope.
AMPs? No.
Street walkers. Maybe? I am suffering from insomnia. Nope, holy hell.
So now I'm thinking Sugar babies. Tried that and had some success back when it was calling SA and not Seeking. Fingers crossed.
[QUOTE=DevilsAdvoc8;5610442]I also moved here a while ago. Want to get into the scene here but some of the stuff here is scaring me, especially re: the STG girls. For example, I'd love to try to see Ronnie, but idk how safe her situation is. I'm on P411 but not many ladies on there, and I'm not interested in the mature ladies. There are even some scams on Eros that have been called out recently. I came close making some meetings work but between scheduling issues and limited options it hasn't happened yet.
What Jax is really missing that I had back where I came from is some solid, well reputed agencies. There, I was screened with several agencies and was able to quickly see who was working on a given day and then make a meeting happen with 30 minutes-1 hour notice. I didn't have to worry about all the drama that I see on here. For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to exist in Jax.[/QUOTE]I agree. I know an agency owner in NYC, and I've trying to convince her to open up a branch down here. We spoke briefly about it several years ago. One of her girls (who was originally from the Flagler Beach area) mentioned when I moved down here that I should open up a service down here. No thanks. I think one hurdle is that the agency will need a good relantion $hip with LE and local government. The agency owner allegedly had ties to some, let's say, guys who were wise in their ways.
[QUOTE=Ttmft;5612651]I agree. I know an agency owner in NYC, and I've trying to convince her to open up a branch down here. We spoke briefly about it several years ago. One of her girls (who was originally from the Flagler Beach area) mentioned when I moved down here that I should open up a service down here. No thanks. I think one hurdle is that the agency will need a good relantion $hip with LE and local government. The agency owner allegedly had ties to some, let's say, guys who were wise in their ways.[/QUOTE]That would be awesome to have an agency.
[QUOTE=Andi3030;5613158]That would be awesome to have an agency.[/QUOTE]A bunch of providers also worry about screening, dealing with hotels, lowballing, etc. Agencies get rid of all of that.
I agree that it probably has to do with LE / local gov here. But then again, I'm new here and have no idea about these issues in Jax.
[QUOTE=Andi3030;5613158]That would be awesome to have an agency.[/QUOTE]It will be hard to attract the talent from NYC with guys wanting to pay 50 bucks.
I too moved here from NYC and boy do I miss that talent. It's like mad max here.
I don't mind paying if they are worth it.
Folks,
I hate to report that Ronnie is spiraling. I do not have a lot of time to elaborate due to illness and lateness of time, but I will try. She is taking much longer to meet clients, body odor is not good, she is sore as hell down below--to the point, you can hardly go deep at all, she's now staying at the Hometown of JTB and you all know the caliber of people there. Of course, that rat hole at the airport wasn't much better. She seems more high during dates lately than I ever remembered. She takes forever to get herself together once she's with you--you know how they become so preoccupied doing nothing.
Well, let's just say that I remembered she was quite different compared to now. Something is happening. She is still sweet, but unfortunately, that alone, won't cut it. She even still feels that she should get 100 for a car meet! That's the other sad part. I told her that with what she is requesting, she should be seeing clients from the Hilton instead of seedy notels! But you know, I am sure that fell on deaf ears! Hopefully, one of you cats can get through to her, but for now, she's taking a nose dive!
[QUOTE=Molson2337;5613513]It will be hard to attract the talent from NYC with guys wanting to pay 50 bucks.
I too moved here from NYC and boy do I miss that talent. It's like mad max here.
I don't mind paying if they are worth it.[/QUOTE]I have been thinking about starting a business like this for some time but would like some feedback. I know the demand is there but what about the supply? STG girls aren't usually the agency type.
[QUOTE=Molson2337;5613513]It will be hard to attract the talent from NYC with guys wanting to pay 50 bucks.
I too moved here from NYC and boy do I miss that talent. It's like mad max here.
I don't mind paying if they are worth it.[/QUOTE]I'm from NY as well. I agree with you about everything you say, but the $50. The guys here pay what the girls should be charging. There's alot of us here who pay alot more when the talent is worth it. 99.9% of the girls here either have no teeth, smell worth than death, ***** and complain about everything, rob you, or something worst. I remember the good ole days at The Point, or the girl in Queens village. The smoking hot Asian girls of L. I. Or Queens. None of that will happen here because let's face it Jaxs is not considered a big time city, like Miami, Orlando etc. What we need to do is stop giving these type of girls the time of day. Hey we might even save their lives.
This was a horrible date. She's in a trailer off of Schindler. I got a BBBJ but no CIM. Also when we did doggy her ass smell was SO bad I had to stop. Will not repeat.
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- Don Jon.
Another horrible date. I'm having bad luck all over.
She was scared to touch me. It's her in the pics but she does not look like that when you show up. No kissing anywhere, neck or nothing. No touching her nipples and she's a clock watcher and sets a timer. Will not repeat.
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- Don Jon.
[QUOTE=DonJon;5614190]This was a horrible date. She's in a trailer off of Schindler. I got a BBBJ but no CIM. Also when we did doggy her ass smell was SO bad I had to stop. Will not repeat.
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- Don Jon.[/QUOTE]Funny you would mention this. When I saw her, she had a piece of tissue hanging out of something down there and I want to say it was her A-hole! These damn hags! SMDH She probably wanted at least a 100 dollars, huh?
[QUOTE=EatherPeach69;5614173]I'm from NY as well. I agree with you about everything you say, but the $50. The guys here pay what the girls should be charging. There's alot of us here who pay alot more when the talent is worth it. 99.9% of the girls here either have no teeth, smell worth than death, ***** and complain about everything, rob you, or something worst. I remember the good ole days at The Point, or the girl in Queens village. The smoking hot Asian girls of L. I. Or Queens. None of that will happen here because let's face it Jaxs is not considered a big time city, like Miami, Orlando etc. What we need to do is stop giving these type of girls the time of day. Hey we might even save their lives.[/QUOTE]There's Mongers who believe other Mongers short-change these girls, that's why they are what they are with all their scheming bullshit, half-ass or lackadaisical performance. "You get what you pay for" they say. We blame the girls; The girls blame us bcuz they believe "we're cheap". Personally, the reason I attempt at low-balling and trying to get more fuck for the buck is bcuz over the years that I've traded dime for time I've experienced the things I just mentioned: the bullshit lack of performance or procrastination, the constant fear of being intruded on, the expectation of that the girl may be too high, the filtering and catfishing. The list goes on. So right away when I contact a girl and study her ad / pics, I'm already in the mind-set of negotiating down. That's result of all my previous disappointments. If the girl isn't interested, I move on.
We are at the "chicken or the egg" when it comes to us blaming them and them blaming us.
I WOULD be more yieldng if service, attitude, coherency, hygiene, looks, safety and even venue is given with the highest regards. Today, most often, it's just as a punch-line; a front to draw clients to their facade and get the most out of doing nothing but to disappoint.
[QUOTE=AMnnos;5614234]There's Mongers who believe other Mongers short-change these girls, that's why they are what they are with all their scheming bullshit, half-ass or lackadaisical performance. "You get what you pay for" they say. We blame the girls; The girls blame us bcuz they believe "we're cheap". Personally, the reason I attempt at low-balling and trying to get more fuck for the buck is bcuz over the years that I've traded dime for time I've experienced the things I just mentioned: the bullshit lack of performance or procrastination, the constant fear of being intruded on, the expectation of that the girl may be too high, the filtering and catfishing. The list goes on. So right away when I contact a girl and study her ad / pics, I'm already in the mind-set of negotiating down. That's result of all my previous disappointments. If the girl isn't interested, I move on.
We are at the "chicken or the egg" when it comes to us blaming them and them blaming us.
I WOULD be more giving if service, attitude, coherency, hygiene, looks, safety and even venue is given with the highest regards. Today, most often, it's just as a punch-line; a front to draw clients to their facade and get the most out of doing nothing but to disappoint.[/QUOTE]See what I mean! LOL Let's just re-label this thread, the Disappointment Thread, bcuz theres hardly been shit for good reviews lately. I bet they were askin top dollar too. I wouldn't give Kristin Miller no more than 50 bucks (10 extra if she washed her ass) with her trailer-livin ass. 🤣. Guess she lost her place off Collins
[QUOTE=AMnnos;5614251]See what I mean! LOL Let's just re-label this thread, the Disappointment Thread, bcuz theres hardly been shit for good reviews lately. I bet they were askin top dollar too. I wouldn't give Kristin Miller no more than 50 bucks (10 extra if she washed her ass) with her trailer-livin ass. 🤣. Guess she lost her place off Collins[/QUOTE]This made me laugh. But your not wrong bro. Hell, I've wasted a few hundred in the last 3 days and all my experiences were bad.
I'm so sad and dissapointed that all I can do is laugh about it.
- DonJon.
[QUOTE=Ttmft;5612651]I agree. I know an agency owner in NYC, and I've trying to convince her to open up a branch down here. We spoke briefly about it several years ago. One of her girls (who was originally from the Flagler Beach area) mentioned when I moved down here that I should open up a service down here. No thanks. I think one hurdle is that the agency will need a good relantion $hip with LE and local government. The agency owner allegedly had ties to some, let's say, guys who were wise in their ways.[/QUOTE]No no if it's so great there why can't you move back? Don't bring more of your people here.
Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Thursday night. She show up but friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up on me and left.
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[QUOTE=AMnnos;5614234]There's Mongers who believe other Mongers short-change these girls, that's why they are what they are with all their scheming bullshit, half-ass or lackadaisical performance. "You get what you pay for" they say. We blame the girls; The girls blame us bcuz they believe "we're cheap". Personally, the reason I attempt at low-balling and trying to get more fuck for the buck is bcuz over the years that I've traded dime for time I've experienced the things I just mentioned: the bullshit lack of performance or procrastination, the constant fear of being intruded on, the expectation of that the girl may be too high, the filtering and catfishing. The list goes on. So right away when I contact a girl and study her ad / pics, I'm already in the mind-set of negotiating down. That's result of all my previous disappointments. If the girl isn't interested, I move on.
We are at the "chicken or the egg" when it comes to us blaming them and them blaming us.
I WOULD be more yieldng if service, attitude, coherency, hygiene, looks, safety and even venue is given with the highest regards. Today, most often, it's just as a punch-line; a front to draw clients to their facade and get the most out of doing nothing but to disappoint.[/QUOTE]Now that's some funny shet right dare! LOL.
Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Saturday night around 10. She showed up but a friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up phone and left.
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[QUOTE=TheShelby;5614315]Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Thursday night. She show up but friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up on me and left.
[URL]https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/looking-for-some-fun-pls-read/462253073156[/URL][/QUOTE]Saturday night. She left peacefully thankfully.
[QUOTE=TheShelby;5614315]Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Thursday night. She show up but friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up on me and left.
[URL]https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/looking-for-some-fun-pls-read/462253073156[/URL][/QUOTE]And you sir are part of the problem in the industry. And people wonder why jax is a trash heap right now. We never had a great selection to begin with and you decide to waste someones time that actually showed up lmao.
[QUOTE=Powerhouse100;5613888]She is taking much longer to meet clients, body odor is not good, she is sore as hell down below[/QUOTE]Damn. She was our hotest and youngest for a while. Can you imagine how many cocks she's had in that 19 year old pussy?! Poor girl.
[QUOTE=ClitEastwoodJx;5614540]Damn. She was our hotest and youngest for a while. Can you imagine how many cocks she's had in that 19 year old pussy?! Poor girl.[/QUOTE]I have some more unfortunate information folks. So, I wanted to finish my review on Ronnie. Now let me say that I have not fallen out with her. I am taking a chance that she'll never see me again if she read this review. But if I owed any allegiance to anyone (for lack of a better word), it's those of this board. It's the way we all stay safe. Now, I mentioned she has been staying in some very seedy areas. Try Golfair area on for size. I did a session with her in that area. She was probably 30 minutes or more late after our agreed upon time. I don't know what that was about, but I digress!
What I thought was strange about last night was, not only did she try to delay coming out (by about 40 minutes after agreed upon time), but when she got in the cruiser, she insisted we go to an area of her choice to do session. It was an area she described as being behind some building--we'd be the lone rangers there. I told her I always hide in plain site along with other cruisers! It was the way she insisted on this that got me thinking now. She had never done that before. At any rate, I prevailed! I want to also mentioned something else. I said that she delayed coming out for a long time. I finally got to the point where I told her that I was leaving in 5 minutes if she wasn't outside. Apparently, she was lying in wait looking at my cruiser somewhere where I couldn't see her and still, would not come out. However, when she saw me leaving, she took off after me. I got a call from her as I was leaving saying she was running behind my truck! Hmmm; very odd for her! I should also mention that she was trying to get me to pick her up from the dark side of the motel, but I refused and told her there was no parking space possibly due to the game yesterday.
I turned back around and picked her up. Her excuse was that the 'hotel people' kept delaying her from coming to me. Whatever the hell that means! Anyway, we proceed to my chosen location, which, as I mentioned, she did not like. It was in a nice hotel parking lot in the same area, but I would blend in with other cruisers. She never had an issue with this. Again, it appeared she was trying to get me in a vulnerable situation.
Another thing I thought was strange--she was supposed to be staying at the Red Roof, but when we finished, she insisted on me taking her back to Hometown where at 0400 am, it was like a convention in the parking lot. This is where she kept looking very strange at me. She was looking off at these girls in a distance and trying to get me to look that way as well. I wouldn't turn my head long enough, but it appeared that she was trying to grab something from my cruiser without me knowing. The look on a thief's face is priceless when he or she realizes the gig is up. I played along partly, but made sure I kept her in my peripheral vision and I finally told her she had to get out since I was there so late. To give you some perspective, we were supposed to meet at 2:30 and I was supposed to get back home by 3:00 am since I don't live too far; I did not get home until 0400 am. That's how strange it was.
I want to also add, if this means anything to you all, Ronnie Ron does not like dick. She hates it! I suppose I understand. I mean, sexually assaulted for many years by family members, to include the stepfather and brother. I mentioned this because she seemed to be showing an increased aversion to sex and it is becoming a major turn off. Let me say that the thing that happened to the other gentlemen on here, where he said he was beat up by Ronnie's fellows is becoming more plausible. At least to me, I think she was a part of this setup! Well, fellas, it's up to you. I can't say I'll ever see her again, but I don't won't anyone to get hurt with this girl and her crew. Proceed with caution, if anything!
[QUOTE=Powerhouse100;5614212]Funny you would mention this. When I saw her, she had a piece of tissue hanging out of something down there and I want to say it was her A-hole! These damn hags! SMDH She probably wanted at least a 100 dollars, huh?[/QUOTE]How can us mongers paying more coins ever be good?
These providers meet us with toilet paper hanging from their a-hole!
Sheesh, and they stink too!
Thanks Powerhouse. You show real life why we would be silly as mongers to pay the insane rates these providers keep asking.
As I have said before, paying more almost always means not getting more!
[QUOTE=Molson2337;5613513]It will be hard to attract the talent from NYC with guys wanting to pay 50 bucks.
I too moved here from NYC and boy do I miss that talent. It's like mad max here.
I don't mind paying if they are worth it.[/QUOTE]Look at how it works in the NE. Agencies aren't offering girls for $100 or $150/ hr. Yeah, they have streetwalker and such for the lowball crowd. Agencies usually charge $250-350/ hr. Here, we have a weird dichotomy. Eros / Tryst girls asking for $400-500/ hr (with hr minimum) and people expecting $50-100 for a qv. Very little in that middle range and nothing that's particularly convenient. There have definitely been some girls posted here that made me wonder if there was a decent agency if they could do well.
The point wouldn't be to attract girls from NYC. It would be to get local girls from seeking, strip clubs, adultsearch, STG, whatever over to agencies.
[QUOTE=TheShelby;5614395]Saturday night. She left peacefully thankfully.[/QUOTE]White knight or she follows this thread. Messaged me about it.
Anyone seen this cutie? Don't see any reviews under that name. Probably TGTBT.
Been curious about this one too. Looks like lots of fun, anyone got info?
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Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.
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[QUOTE=TheShelby;5614315]Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Thursday night. She show up but friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up on me and left.
[URL]https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/looking-for-some-fun-pls-read/462253073156[/URL][/QUOTE]Listen I've been in a provider's spot when she tells me she double booked. And I sat down on her couch and said that is such a shame. You tell the nice man you need 45 minutes. I certainly don't blame you for doing what they do to us.
She's been around under a different name, but I haven't seen her personally, and trying to match her up with a former name is driving me nuts.
[QUOTE=Adrew904;5615065]Anyone seen this cutie? Don't see any reviews under that name. Probably TGTBT.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=DevilsAdvoc8;5614987]Look at how it works in the NE. Agencies aren't offering girls for $100 or $150/ hr. Yeah, they have streetwalker and such for the lowball crowd. Agencies usually charge $250-350/ hr. Here, we have a weird dichotomy. Eros / Tryst girls asking for $400-500/ hr (with hr minimum) and people expecting $50-100 for a qv. Very little in that middle range and nothing that's particularly convenient. There have definitely been some girls posted here that made me wonder if there was a decent agency if they could do well.
The point wouldn't be to attract girls from NYC. It would be to get local girls from seeking, strip clubs, adultsearch, STG, whatever over to agencies.[/QUOTE]To your point about the $50-100 QV versus the $400-500/ hr girls. And nothing in between here in Jax. That was where Seeking used to fit in. Could find a higher than SW-quality girl for $160-220 or so an hour, and they were attractive girls, typically low volume compared to the BP / now STG quality at the time. And usually not on the needle.
I personally would pay a quality STG-girl a Seeking-rate if she were the same.
I think a lot of what is happening is what I was reading about on the SW thread -- a lot of these girls don't walk the streets anymore, instead they get a phone (and somehow keep it now) and post on STG, so STG is nothing but SW's and all that comes with them. Instead of meeting them in the street in your car, you get all the other baggage with them, the thugs, the DB's and handlers as the few SW's I knew all lived and hung out in the absolute shittiest of places in town.
[QUOTE=JboJonas;5615293]To your point about the $50-100 QV versus the $400-500/ hr girls. And nothing in between here in Jax. That was where Seeking used to fit in. Could find a higher than SW-quality girl for $160-220 or so an hour, and they were attractive girls, typically low volume compared to the BP / now STG quality at the time. And usually not on the needle.
I personally would pay a quality STG-girl a Seeking-rate if she were the same.
I think a lot of what is happening is what I was reading about on the SW thread -- a lot of these girls don't walk the streets anymore, instead they get a phone (and somehow keep it now) and post on STG, so STG is nothing but SW's and all that comes with them. Instead of meeting them in the street in your car, you get all the other baggage with them, the thugs, the DB's and handlers as the few SW's I knew all lived and hung out in the absolute shittiest of places in town.[/QUOTE]A lot of us that are professional guys that are hitched and with families are not dealing with all the BS that comes with seeking. That's the whole point of an agency. Cut through the BS. You see who is working on a given day, you text them with a time and who you would like to see and for how long. You have real pics already. You probably have reviews. The whole process to get a date takes a few minutes. Meanwhile, seeking is like dating. Reach out to someone, start a discussion, start negotiating, try to figure out if it is a scam, etc. It is awful and for my situation is a non-starter.
[QUOTE=BlackLightning;5615170]Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.
[URL]https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/snatch-your-soul-satisfy-your/350908900062[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't seen any reviews for her.