Anyone heard from Soulard Susan. I have tried both numbers but haven't heard back from her the last 2 times.
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Anyone heard from Soulard Susan. I have tried both numbers but haven't heard back from her the last 2 times.
My inbox is full of comments and questions. So many I can't respond to all so this covers the most common questions and comments.
Firstly I don't understand why you all use DM's when almost all of the answers to your questions and all of the comments would be helpful in this public forum. Rather than filling my inbox it would be better if you would post here so others can learn from your experience and so I don't have to answer the same question 5 times. Appreciated.
Big picture summary with Secret Garden that I have gathered from many, many comments and my own ongoing experience is If you were a repeat previous client with them, you can still get your L1 HE from Sarah, for whatever that's now worth.
If you are new then your chances are you won't get anything other than weak tease and some talk about sex from Sarah, and nothing more. Sarah seems to be pushing most of her clients to India and India still provides a kind of tease, and minimal draping which all seems to suggest HE, but she has stopped giving anything other than overpriced massage. India seems like she would like to do more, but everyone there is paranoid after all the attention and the crazy warning on the website. It's a shame because Indias HE was decent and we seemed to be working toward FS, but now it's nothing at all really. Several comments I've received are consistent with my experience with India recently.
As far as Sarah herself she no longer seems interested in MT, the HE has gotten to be fairly lame, and it just isn't worth it anymore. There's better elsewhere, less expensive, without the weird vibe, in a nicer place, and a million times easier to schedule.
Numerous other rumors and comments including that this place is now more about providing and receiving party favors than giving a massage or extra services, and also that she has a manager boyfriend running the place. I can't confirm, but seems like someone has solid intel to share about these.
One more time, please spare me the DM, s and respond here.
Has anyone seen Colorado Girl? Ad is on RR, looks good but I need some kind of verification before I schedule. Thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=Flower79;7370151]My inbox is full of comments and questions. So many I can't respond to all so this covers the most common questions and comments.
Firstly I don't understand why you all use DM's when almost all of the answers to your questions and all of the comments would be helpful in this public forum. Rather than filling my inbox it would be better if you would post here so others can learn from your experience and so I don't have to answer the same question 5 times. Appreciated.
Big picture summary with Secret Garden that I have gathered from many, many comments and my own ongoing experience is If you were a repeat previous client with them, you can still get your L1 HE from Sarah, for whatever that's now worth.
If you are new then your chances are you won't get anything other than weak tease and some talk about sex from Sarah, and nothing more. Sarah seems to be pushing most of her clients to India and India still provides a kind of tease, and minimal draping which all seems to suggest HE, but she has stopped giving anything other than overpriced massage. India seems like she would like to do more, but everyone there is paranoid after all the attention and the crazy warning on the website. It's a shame because Indias HE was decent and we seemed to be working toward FS, but now it's nothing at all really. Several comments I've received are consistent with my experience with India recently.
As far as Sarah herself she no longer seems interested in MT, the HE has gotten to be fairly lame, and it just isn't worth it anymore. There's better elsewhere, less expensive, without the weird vibe, in a nicer place, and a million times easier to schedule.
Numerous other rumors and comments including that this place is now more about providing and receiving party favors than giving a massage or extra services, and also that she has a manager boyfriend running the place. I can't confirm, but seems like someone has solid intel to share about these.
One more time, please spare me the DM, s and respond here.[/QUOTE]What was this post about now?? Nobody has gotten anything at this place other than you, if I am wrong if somebody got something please reply, looks to me Flower79 repeatedly posts about secret garden once in a while either trying to get them in trouble or damage their reputation or increase their sales not sure what is the motive here, but Flower79 is the only one who keeps on bringing about SecretGarden.
[QUOTE=SamuelAdams;7370620]What was this post about now?? Nobody has gotten anything at this place other than you, if I am wrong if somebody got something please reply, looks to me Flower79 repeatedly posts about secret garden once in a while either trying to get them in trouble or damage their reputation or increase their sales not sure what is the motive here, but Flower79 is the only one who keeps on bringing about SecretGarden.[/QUOTE]What this is about is providing helpful information to all rather than DM's. Like the three DM's from SamAdams I responded to discussing 3 different woman at Secret Garden. SamAdams confirms exactly what I'm trying to share which is that some of us are grandfathered in but newbies have no luck.
I've seen the accusations before that my posts are trying to help this business and also trying to get them in trouble. Which is it?
Anyway my posts about this place, like all my posts about many places, are intended to provide meaningful information that DM's don't.
I have reached out to you when you first posted about this place, I tried and gave up after few visits, out of the blue you talking about this place again.
[QUOTE=Flower79;7370701]What this is about is providing helpful information to all rather than DM's. Like the three DM's from SamAdams I responded to discussing 3 different woman at Secret Garden. SamAdams confirms exactly what I'm trying to share which is that some of us are grandfathered in but newbies have no luck.
I've seen the accusations before that my posts are trying to help this business and also trying to get them in trouble. Which is it?
Anyway my posts about this place, like all my posts about many places, are intended to provide meaningful information that DM's don't.[/QUOTE]
Happy feet usually isn't my go-to but it's convenient location-wise. It's been a while so thought I would revisit and see if there's any new talent. Good Lord I got Linda who remembered me but this knucklehead didn't remember her. If the two I think it is she was good but dang she must have learned some new skills The massage was on point the HE was the best I swear I've ever had! OTC touch, ass boobs and even rubbed her pussy and she seemed, or at least pretended to enjoy it and wanted more! Incredible!
I am heading down to cape Girardeau this weekend. Any good massage places I could check out.
[QUOTE=Whaler;7371456]I am heading down to cape Girardeau this weekend. Any good massage places I could check out.[/QUOTE]Doubtful, I'd drive the hour to Carbondale if possible, they seem to have quite a few FS spas.
[QUOTE=Flower79;7370701]What this is about is providing helpful information to all rather than DM's. Like the three DM's from SamAdams I responded to discussing 3 different woman at Secret Garden. SamAdams confirms exactly what I'm trying to share which is that some of us are grandfathered in but newbies have no luck.
I've seen the accusations before that my posts are trying to help this business and also trying to get them in trouble. Which is it?
Anyway my posts about this place, like all my posts about many places, are intended to provide meaningful information that DM's don't.[/QUOTE]Aren't you concerned that they may know who you are after reading these posts? I'd think it would be quite a bridge burner. I, too, go back to the Hampton days and early days at the current location when she was solo. Bringing on a staff, it appears, has backfired. I've seen places like this cum and go. Only a few can manage the drama. Bob in Clayton did well for many years, but that was before the internet became what it is. I never had the eventful massages as you're describing. It makes me wonder if you're legit. That kind of detail is destructive.
Anybody have any reviews info on the following?
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/sexy-and-unique-76499.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/revitalize-your-body-quality-massage-therapy-here-82243.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/314-683-0894-relaxing-massage-70482.html[/URL]
And has anybody been to Diamond Massage on Tesson?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mrlarient;7372890]Anybody have any reviews info on the following?
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/sexy-and-unique-76499.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/revitalize-your-body-quality-massage-therapy-here-82243.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/314-683-0894-relaxing-massage-70482.html[/URL]
And has anybody been to Diamond Massage on Tesson?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've seen #3 a couple times. In St Chas. Probably pushing 55/60. Very nice person, good massage, only L1 though.
New location in St Chas just off 94 and Pralle called 94 Massage. Anyone visit yet? I'm close, if no ones responds, I'll TOFTT and report.
[QUOTE=ElixirMan;7372312]Aren't you concerned that they may know who you are after reading these posts? I'd think it would be quite a bridge burner. I, too, go back to the Hampton days and early days at the current location when she was solo. Bringing on a staff, it appears, has backfired. I've seen places like this cum and go. Only a few can manage the drama. Bob in Clayton did well for many years, but that was before the internet became what it is. I never had the eventful massages as you're describing. It makes me wonder if you're legit. That kind of detail is destructive.[/QUOTE]I doubt she reads or is even aware of this forum. And even so I'm not concerned that she'll know who I am because based on the detail in DM's I've gotten, there are lots of us who have gotten more than L, and I'm not the only one currently getting L1, and I'm not the only one who has gotten L1 and more from others there besides Sarah. One more reason why it's best to share here rather than DMs. There is anonymity in numbers.
And I agree totally that the old days were SO much better.
[QUOTE=Rickstr352;7373063]I've seen #3 a couple times. In St Chas. Probably pushing 55/60. Very nice person, good massage, only L1 though.[/QUOTE]#3 is the often reviewed Jenny in St Charles who has lost a lot of weight recently and has historically been very late or cancels often. I gave up seeing her a long time ago based on the scheduling unreliability. Really nice person. Chatty. L1 only.
[QUOTE=Flower79;7373395]I doubt she reads or is even aware of this forum. And even so I'm not concerned that she'll know who I am because based on the detail in DM's I've gotten, there are lots of us who have gotten more than L, and I'm not the only one currently getting L1, and I'm not the only one who has gotten L1 and more from others there besides Sarah. One more reason why it's best to share here rather than DMs. There is anonymity in numbers.
And I agree that the old days were SO much better.[/QUOTE]And what is L1? I wouldn't be so sure of this. Not knowing who you are. The only problem I had was that she began to get greedy and wanted 160 of an average massage and a HE. All these women, or most today, are off the charts $$ wise and way below in looks. Some start at 120 - then the next time you visit, they want 160/200. We have the little gal with the Yorkie asking 500 for full service to select customers. It's sad what this city has become concerning sensual massages. Back to Sara. Again, she's not on the website, and if you try to book online, only a few are listed. One can only imagine the jealousy and back-stabbing that goes on among themselves. I enjoyed my time with Sara before COVID for the most part. It's too bad it blew up. It had a lot of potential.
[QUOTE=Mrlarient;7372890]Anybody have any reviews info on the following?
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/sexy-and-unique-76499.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/revitalize-your-body-quality-massage-therapy-here-82243.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/314-683-0894-relaxing-massage-70482.html[/URL]
And has anybody been to Diamond Massage on Tesson?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would like to hear about the first 2 you listed. I've been thinking of the second one but not tried yet. Thanks for TOFTT and filling us / me in!!
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hank56;7373843]I would like to hear about the first 2 you listed. I've been thinking of the second one but not tried yet. Thanks for TOFTT and filling us / me in!!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I contacted the second one. Whoever she / they are asked me for my zip code and asked for other info I can't remeber what. I never replied to it. So it be interestong to see what they up to.
[QUOTE=Member#2613;7373931]I contacted the second one. Whoever she / they are asked me for my zip code and asked for other info I can't remeber what. I never replied to it. So it be interestong to see what they up to.[/QUOTE]Any one asking for your zip is scamming. Has ads in multiple cities, now they know where you are so they have their script to get you to bite in a deposit.
[QUOTE=Whaler;7371456]I am heading down to cape Girardeau this weekend. Any good massage places I could check out.[/QUOTE]The only AMP I know of in Cape is Massage Care. Linda there is young and pretty. There used to be a Lucy and Coco that worked there but I think they are gone.
[QUOTE=Rickstr352;7374066]Any one asking for your zip is scamming. Has ads in multiple cities, now they know where you are so they have their script to get you to bite in a deposit.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's waht it seemed like was coming next.
[QUOTE=Rickstr352;7373067]New location in St Chas just off 94 and Pralle called 94 Massage. Anyone visit yet? I'm close, if no ones responds, I'll TOFTT and report.[/QUOTE]Had to travel to the Missouri side this week so I tried 94 on short notice and they were able to accommodate.
Matronly looking therapist quickly made clear that L1 was available by frequent intentional contact while face down. More than average tease on the face down. Hot towel clean up then the flip. On the flip she asked about oil (always say yes), and she went straight to it.
Very little finesse. Very much enthusiasm and effort. In other words, straight jackhammer approach. So an A for effort, D- for technique. A nice bit of verbal encouragement with the "come on baby" talk. I may repeat if I'm in the area again.
I did not get a name of my therapist, which is a big mistake on my part here. There was a second provider at the shop but I did not get a good look. At least two other clients arrived while I was there. Typical thin walled place- so I guess word is out about this place.
For basic L1 this place will do.
[QUOTE=Member#2613;7374848]Yeah that's waht it seemed like was coming next.[/QUOTE]Just got scammed by Harley on RR. She got me to her location (Ha! Then required a gift card from Sephora! So don't bother!
[QUOTE=Flower79;7374975]Had to travel to the Missouri side this week so I tried 94 on short notice and they were able to accommodate.
Matronly looking therapist quickly made clear that L1 was available by frequent intentional contact while face down. More than average tease on the face down. Hot towel clean up then the flip. On the flip she asked about oil (always say yes), and she went straight to it.
Very little finesse. Very much enthusiasm and effort. In other words, straight jackhammer approach. So an A for effort, D- for technique. A nice bit of verbal encouragement with the "come on baby" talk. I may repeat if I'm in the area again.
I did not get a name of my therapist, which is a big mistake on my part here. There was a second provider at the shop but I did not get a good look. At least two other clients arrived while I was there. Typical thin walled place- so I guess word is out about this place.
For basic L1 this place will do.[/QUOTE]Thanks. This could be bad! Live 1/4 mi away!
[QUOTE=Flower79;7374975]Had to travel to the Missouri side this week so I tried 94 on short notice and they were able to accommodate.
Matronly looking therapist quickly made clear that L1 was available by frequent intentional contact while face down. More than average tease on the face down. Hot towel clean up then the flip. On the flip she asked about oil (always say yes), and she went straight to it.
Very little finesse. Very much enthusiasm and effort. In other words, straight jackhammer approach. So an A for effort, D- for technique. A nice bit of verbal encouragement with the "come on baby" talk. I may repeat if I'm in the area again.
I did not get a name of my therapist, which is a big mistake on my part here. There was a second provider at the shop but I did not get a good look. At least two other clients arrived while I was there. Typical thin walled place- so I guess word is out about this place.
For basic L1 this place will do.[/QUOTE]Small strip mall locale, an appliance repair was there for decades (A gun store is their neighbor). SO many AMPs in the area, obviously a customer base demands more.
Heard rumor there was a new gal and 3 regulars at Sakura now. Used to frequent a few years ago and had a Blast when I lived closer. But then they got so dam busy.
Any locals been lately before I take the drive down south.
Ever.
[QUOTE=Eveready1469;7376444]Heard rumor there was a new gal and 3 regulars at Sakura now. Used to frequent a few years ago and had a Blast when I lived closer. But then they got so dam busy.
Any locals been lately before I take the drive down south.
Ever.[/QUOTE]The first time I went there, I got a great massage with an excellent finish. I posted a review and then every time I went it was freaking busy and the phone was ringing off the hook. I still managed to get a good massage a few times. Finally, I got a lady who was trying to massage me and answer the phone. I got an okay at best massage, with a lousy finish. I haven't returned since. Like everything else dealing with these ladies, timing is everything. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Tony9;7375688]Small strip mall locale, an appliance repair was there for decades (A gun store is their neighbor). SO many AMPs in the area, obviously a customer base demands more.[/QUOTE]What other ones besides OK on Muegge that's L1?
Been about a year since my last visit thought I'd give it a go, pretty good rub, light tease, decent slow and soft finish no jackhammer, didn't catch a name, would repeat in a pinch but I get better service at other spots in the county.
Any recommendations on good massage providers in the area other than AMPs. I frequent AMPs mostly for their massage skills and liberal rules on drapping and working all areas but it gets to be too transactional, I can take or leave the HE. Been disappointed with RR providers due to lack of the massage skills (at least the couple I've seen, don't feel like forking over $$$ for a handy and subpar massage) I've had the best experience with someone who works out of their home and can call their own shots but alas I've lost contact with my last go to. Feel free to DM me if you want to protect information. Looking for a new regular.
[QUOTE=WantaMassage2;7379057]Any recommendations on good massage providers in the area other than AMPs. I frequent AMPs mostly for their massage skills and liberal rules on drapping and working all areas but it gets to be too transactional, I can take or leave the HE. Been disappointed with RR providers due to lack of the massage skills (at least the couple I've seen, don't feel like forking over $$$ for a handy and subpar massage) I've had the best experience with someone who works out of their home and can call their own shots but alas I've lost contact with my last go to. Feel free to DM me if you want to protect information. Looking for a new regular.[/QUOTE]I would also be interested in this information. I primarily frequent AMP's but would like to visit non-Asian options. Nothing against Asians, but I would like some variety. Also a bit concerned about contributing to trafficking.
There's a ton of non-AMP chains and independent shops around to choose from. These are superior in terms of massage and not treating their customers like a disposable wallet. I've also heard stories through the grapevine of extras (sometimes) but that's solely based on your relationship with the provider that you've built over many months or years.
I've been getting legitimate massage therapy for a little while now and it's been replacing my AMP visits. A quality, professional massage with an English speaking woman who wants to retain clientele is a worthwhile experience. Highly recommend.
[QUOTE=Member#2613;7343923]Couple of things.
I was in dire need of a massage. My regular was not intown so I searched craigslist. I found an advertisement for a place in west county is nesr costco and 141. The lady is AA with really soft hands. I liked her technique, the roaming was good and at the flip a very nice relaxing ending.
Nothing came off and some roaming was allowed.
It will do in a pintch.[/QUOTE]I'll be in that are tomorrow, any link for her?
[QUOTE=Nick1350;7208496]I have been to this spa many times, and to many others in ST. Charles County. If anyone would like to trade some information, please let me know.[/QUOTE]Your in box is full.
[QUOTE=Wfhff14;7380136]I'll be in that are tomorrow, any link for her?[/QUOTE]Log in until now, I hope you found her. I do remember someone posting the link. Pm if you need the direct digits for next time once again am sorry.
[QUOTE=Member#2613;7382237]Log in until now, I hope you found her. I do remember someone posting the link. Pm if you need the direct digits for next time once again am sorry.[/QUOTE]Sent a pm, thanks!
Any info on Ellie from PLM?
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/looking-for-your-new-obsession-ellie-36505.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.professionalluxuriesmassage.com/ellie-st.-louis.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wfhff14;7384815]Any info on Ellie from PLM?
[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/missouri/st-louis-stl/bodyrubs/body-rubs/looking-for-your-new-obsession-ellie-36505.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.professionalluxuriesmassage.com/ellie-st.-louis.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Just look further down the page.
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/hws/d/saint-louis-labor-day-deals-on-body-rubs/7877947166.html[/URL]
Any reviews??
She's running ads about once a week by email only. So gar I haven't got a response back. It's insisting there are no Erotic Services LOL. " Therapeutic in home table massage (Eureka)".