"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2422440]It IS good -until it isn't. Some of us take longer than others to get to that "isn't" phase, but it almost always gets there. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Here's the thing. You have to marry up. If you marry a girl who is equal to you in income / wealth, you will not lose ground in a Divorce. I know many people who married high earners or wealthy girls. If you are a productive guy and have a good career yourself, even if the rich ***** has a prenup you will leave with your own goods.

Most often, guys like us in the Bowl are well to do if not wealthy, and we are usually the one girls are targeting to improve their financial status, or to flat out support them for ever and always -'til death do you part. Don't ever take on a girl who brings nothing to the table but pussy. She eventually ages, gets tired of your needs,becomes unattractive,doesn't need your consent anymore and you are on the hook. Once the Government has you in the system you are toast .

Listen to me brothers. Marriage is fun and fine with a girl you love for the moment. It might bring you many years of joy. But NEVER, EVER marry below your financial status.[/QUOTE] "You can marry more money in one minute than you can earn in a lifetime".

Todays POTS. I am hoping to meet the hand on her hip girl Sunday. She is 18 and flirty. The skinny one is 19 and a bit cautious. The little black dress girl is a UTR but she is pretty hot at 22 and 5'1". I have two confirmed dates for tonite. My new daddys girl ready for date #4 and an M&G straight to the FC so she says sub girl. So as the day progresses I will have to decide or maybe one of them will decide for me and flake.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2422440]It IS good -until it isn't. Some of us take longer than others to get to that "isn't" phase, but it almost always gets there. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Here's the thing. You have to marry up. If you marry a girl who is equal to you in income / wealth, you will not lose ground in a Divorce. I know many people who married high earners or wealthy girls. If you are a productive guy and have a good career yourself, even if the rich ***** has a prenup you will leave with your own goods.

Most often, guys like us in the Bowl are well to do if not wealthy, and we are usually the one girls are targeting to improve their financial status, or to flat out support them for ever and always -'til death do you part. Don't ever take on a girl who brings nothing to the table but pussy. She eventually ages, gets tired of your needs,becomes unattractive,doesn't need your consent anymore and you are on the hook. Once the Government has you in the system you are toast .

Listen to me brothers. Marriage is fun and fine with a girl you love for the moment. It might bring you many years of joy. But NEVER, EVER marry below your financial status.[/QUOTE]Fred, I have heard wiser words but I just cannot remember when LOL thanks for the insight. JTW.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2421184]Exactly. I tell any young guy I know not to get stuck and controlled in the system by getting married.

The true test if a woman that is sincere is to get her to agree to a marriage without the state. If she balks then you know she knows the game (system) and wants that control of you and your assets. Most American women know the game. The men need to wise up more, and not wait until they are caught in it.

I've thought about opening a website helping those guys that are married that want out, and exit the most efficient way possible given their state laws. And tudor those unmarried guys what NOT to do by getting caught up in the judicial system. There are ways to maximize your loss of assets by getting out.

I would never ever get married again. Why would I want to give up control of my life? Screw that.[/QUOTE]I have found that marrying an Asian woman (especially Filipinas) works best. They are conservative, young, hot and puts YOUR needs first. Of course, there are lots of scammers and you have to do your research and not pick the first one. Put them thru the test and see if they pass.

I posted a report about two weeks ago. Any advice for a traveling SD. I frequently travel to a particular area about every two to three months. The last visit I completely striked out.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2422314]I'm in the valley as well, been on SA about 2 years, have gotten to the FC with about 20 girls in that time, most I ever paid was 150, my default right now is 120, and I have more than I can get to.
Sure I get rejected or ignored by a lot of them but there are plenty who are cool with that ball park. If they're not, move on.

Generally they are in the 7 face 8 body range, although my current fave is an 18 year old latina who is a 9/8/8/9 spinner. If you are exclusively after the perfect 10 blonde ASU sorority girls, yeah, you're going to pay more.[/QUOTE]I've sent the perfect 10's messages but I try to stay with just slim / athletic (real athletic not the chunky pretenders) girls in general most have been 7+ like I said though I just started out, glad I wasn't low balling, been going for 100 but negotiating up to 150 max so far. I found another website with similar topics on SB's but its more regional to another part of the country and after reading most of this one they need some guidance LOL, seeing their post talking about offering $$$ for an hour. Glad I am not in that region.

[QUOTE=Falar;2423043]I posted a report about two weeks ago. Any advice for a traveling SD. I frequently travel to a particular area about every two to three months. The last visit I completely striked out.[/QUOTE]I travel a fair amount for my work. Lots of times my schedule doesn't allow for play time, but when it does, I do try and pre-plan and start one or two weeks out before my trip sending out requests. Like all efforts in the SB world, it is a numbers game. Except your odds are even worse than when on your home court. My success rate is probably around 50% as far as finding someone to meet me, but around 90% trips to the FC when I succeed in getting a meeting. Here are my steps which may or may not work for you:

1. I focus on the verbiage in their profiles. I look for phrases like "open minded", "short-term arrangement", "just looking for fun" or anything that indicates they're not looking for a committed one-SD type relationship. I usually bypass any that say looking for only 1 SD.

2. My style for all my SBs is very respectful and laid back. This applies to my travel SBs as well, but I try and be a bit more obvious. My message usually includes an offer for dinner and I say something like, "If we really connect, perhaps a night cap back in my room Of course at that point a gift would be in order. " This makes it clear that she may get dinner, but won't get paid unless she ends up back in my room for some fun intimate times.

Don't expect to find someone to take you up on your offer every time. Obviously larger cities and markets have more SBs, therefore your odds are better. You may be surprised at your results though. I met a lady in New Orleans that turned into a three year relationship where we saw each other a few times a year. In Dallas I lucked into a duo that was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. It's definitely worth the effort if you travel a lot. I'm headed to Nashville Monday and am in conversations with one lady now that I hope to land.

My unicorn of traveling SBs though is in my hometown where I grew up. My dad is in a nursing home there. This is in the middle of the state out in the middle of nowhere. There is a major university 30 miles away though. I've been trying for years, upon years to find an SB in that area for my trips there. I've come close a couple of times, but haven't landed one yet. I again have a couple on the hook right now and we'll see if they come to fruition my next trip home.

I hope that helps.

Travelin.

Good hunting!

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2422361]But it should be pointed out that the government provides several benefits to getting married. Tax, estate, SSN, Medicare, Veteran benefits, etc. So there are legitimate reasons for getting officially hitched that don't necessarily come down to wanting their claws in your goodies.[/QUOTE]I don't see any of what you listed as a benefit except the Veteran Benefits that a wife can take advantage of.

I wouldn't get married for a modest break in taxes.

The Estate, SSN, and Medicare I can't see what benefits you're talking about.

On a side note in my prior post I meant to say "minimize your loss of assets" not "maximize".

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2422440]It IS good -until it isn't. Some of us take longer than others to get to that "isn't" phase, but it almost always gets there. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Here's the thing. You have to marry up. If you marry a girl who is equal to you in income / wealth, you will not lose ground in a Divorce. I know many people who married high earners or wealthy girls. If you are a productive guy and have a good career yourself, even if the rich ***** has a prenup you will leave with your own goods.

Most often, guys like us in the Bowl are well to do if not wealthy, and we are usually the one girls are targeting to improve their financial status, or to flat out support them for ever and always -'til death do you part. Don't ever take on a girl who brings nothing to the table but pussy. She eventually ages, gets tired of your needs,becomes unattractive,doesn't need your consent anymore and you are on the hook. Once the Government has you in the system you are toast .

Listen to me brothers. Marriage is fun and fine with a girl you love for the moment. It might bring you many years of joy. But NEVER, EVER marry below your financial status.[/QUOTE]Good advice.

[QUOTE=JohnnyTheWad;2422764]I have found that marrying an Asian woman (especially Filipinas) works best. They are conservative, young, hot and puts YOUR needs first. Of course, there are lots of scammers and you have to do your research and not pick the first one. Put them thru the test and see if they pass.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I married a girl from China about 20 years younger than me. Not married now, but I still prefer Asian women over western women.

[QUOTE=JohnnyTheWad;2422764]I have found that marrying an Asian woman (especially Filipinas) works best. They are conservative, young, hot and puts YOUR needs first. Of course, there are lots of scammers and you have to do your research and not pick the first one. Put them thru the test and see if they pass.[/QUOTE]I give a thumbs up to the Filipinas.

I've spent quite a bit of time in the PI, Thailand, Korea, etc. If you want a wife from there that meets your specs I think you really need to go there and find one. Mail orders, etc tend to be scammy.

[QUOTE=JohnnyTheWad;2422764]I have found that marrying an Asian woman (especially Filipinas) works best. They are conservative, young, hot and puts YOUR needs first. Of course, there are lots of scammers and you have to do your research and not pick the first one. Put them thru the test and see if they pass.[/QUOTE]

Had two M&G's yesterday. Keeping them very cheap. Both could have lead to FC if I brought sugar. I had no cash only a debit card. On two dates I spent $. 70 and was pretty proud of myself. One was a real hottie, 5'0" 24 yo, body 8 and face 8. I never dated a girl this short but it should be fun. She was literally selling herself to me in terms of how she'd be a great SB for me. It was pretty hot actually. I got her on her first day sign-up on The Bowl.

After wrapping up my two M&G's I hung out and randomly ran into another chick from SA. She WAS a prospect. Attractive, a bit of a talker and she's a teacher. I could deal with most of this. We went bar hopping and she's pretty adamant about how she's worthy of an allowance and how hot her skills are. I then realized why I never offered her sugar. She's a hot girl with a gut. It's like a hidden gut. You don't expect it till you're hugging around on her. Her stock dropped so quick after that.

SB's fail to understand the level of hot pussy out there. There's no need to tolerate a SB that's trying to nail me down to a price and also has a beer belly. SA should be offering workout plans too.

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Hello all,

Reading some of the posts here have gotten me excited to star on this SD thing. I am off to a good start from reading all of the posts here but I have a question. What does FC mean? I assume it is sex but wondering if there is something else to it.

Thanks DJ.