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Tried again to see Bella, and the stars were aligned LOL.
Met her at her private location just off 28th st.
Very pretty woman. BBBJ, cfs. $. 2 with no rush.
She says she gets multiple texts / calls an hour, and I believe her.
Be polite via text, and you may get lucky as I did. I will repeat.
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I am just curious, has anyone actually paid a deposit to see her? I have talked to her a couple of times but when she asks if I want an appointment I say yes but I am not paying a deposit to see her. Now she changed her ad saying "no deposit, no appointment no exceptions. " She has the curves I like but not worth it to.
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[QUOTE=Arish;4948714]I am just curious, has anyone actually paid a deposit to see her? I have talked to her a couple of times but when she asks if I want an appointment I say yes but I am not paying a deposit to see her. Now she changed her ad saying "no deposit, no appointment no exceptions. " She has the curves I like but not worth it to.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/thick-latina-pole-dancer/426834842279[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm thinking if there was a way for me to send you some $ Arish anonymously it would be worth it to see you TOFTT, if we could get a few others to pitch in? I'm a noob here so other senior members chime in if I sound stupid, but I'm relatively trusting of this group.
I've seen her ad too and am curious if that ass is real and local.
Anybody know who this is? No hits on the pics or number for me.
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[QUOTE=Arish;4948714]I am just curious, has anyone actually paid a deposit to see her? I have talked to her a couple of times but when she asks if I want an appointment I say yes but I am not paying a deposit to see her. Now she changed her ad saying "no deposit, no appointment no exceptions. " She has the curves I like but not worth it to.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/thick-latina-pole-dancer/426834842279[/URL][/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust any provider to hold a deposit unless they are well reviewed, typically high end escorts. For an unknown to require a deposit just screams scam to me.
If you really want to test the waters here is a somewhat shady tactic that you could do with a highly suspect ad like her. Get a different text number and make her a very hefty, but reasonable offer. When she asks for a deposit offer double her normal 1 hr rate and say if you hit it off maybe you'll pay for additional hours. Be sure to tell her you can only see her right now, but you won't pay a deposit, and if she's not the girl in the picture you'll walk away. Say you are here on business so it's your one time to indulge and she is 100% your dream girl or something like that. If she still demands a deposit and passes up a big payday that'll confirm she's not real and we can ignore. However if she agrees to that, you now have reason to believe she might be worth the deposit risk. Then politely cancel the high offer (don't ghost) and come back with your regular hobby phone with the normal rate.
I will acknowledge the two-number approach is shady in that you will be intentionally misleading her. So don't be an a-hole for regular providers. But for a case that smells like a deposit scam I'd sleep fine at night wasting her time.
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I saw Ivy years ago when she was on the scene. She was a regular BP poster always with very high glam pics in her ads. Like most girls, she isn't quite that dolled up for your date as those pics. She is hot though, or she was then anyway. She was for sure a heavy drug user back then. I also found her head skills lacking. To look at her you'd assume she would suck cock like a pro but I didn't think so. I also recall she got pissed at me because I put my hand on the back of her head while she sucked. Shoved it away and told me to not do that. Sorry but if I'm paying a hooker I expect at least that to be allowed.
I never repeated with her.
This was maybe 3-4 years ago mind you but I won't go see her now. Heavy druggie and lackluster performance. I seriously doubt she's improved and I guarantee her return to the hobby is to support her drug habit.
I admit I will see a drug user as its pretty slim pickens if you exclude them but to me she's not worth it.
[QUOTE=Benjamin99;4948394]For me not the hand is the problem, because is the left hand and if is not fully functional she can keep it on her side. The big issue for me is that she is on drugs, from what other guys have said, and I don't want to sponsor anyone's addiction. And before someone jumps on me saying that all of them are on drugs, let me say that there are a few clean gals out there. Not many, but I'm not looking for quantity but rather quality.
It is a shame because she is very pretty and very responsive to my texts. I might stop to see her one day if I pass through GR.
Ben out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChasinTail;4948918]Yea you sound stupid. Send me your money I'll hold it for you. Ha if they ask for deposit they are thieves praying on ignorant people like you to make a buck. Go ahead send some money see what happens. GHOSTED.[/QUOTE]What in the hell kind of reply is that? The guy is trying to help the group. You sound stupid. Clearly.
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4948881]I wouldn't trust any provider to hold a deposit unless they are well reviewed, typically high end escorts. For an unknown to require a deposit just screams scam to me.
If you really want to test the waters here is a somewhat shady tactic that you could do with a highly suspect ad like her. Get a different text number and make her a very hefty, but reasonable offer. When she asks for a deposit offer double her normal 1 hr rate and say if you hit it off maybe you'll pay for additional hours. Be sure to tell her you can only see her right now, but you won't pay a deposit, and if she's not the girl in the picture you'll walk away. Say you are here on business so it's your one time to indulge and she is 100% your dream girl or something like that. If she still demands a deposit and passes up a big payday that'll confirm she's not real and we can ignore. However if she agrees to that, you now have reason to believe she might be worth the deposit risk. Then politely cancel the high offer (don't ghost) and come back with your regular hobby phone with the normal rate.
I will acknowledge the two-number approach is shady in that you will be intentionally misleading her. So don't be an a-hole for regular providers. But for a case that smells like a deposit scam I'd sleep fine at night wasting her time.[/QUOTE]I have used the two number approach often, I have a phone app on my hobby phone.
Works good for me when negotiating with a new provider.
A week or so back a visiting member asked about the best head provider in GR. Consensus seemed to settle on Jasmine. I tend to agree. Her throat has no equal here in West Michigan. I know she will duo. Would she help teach her "art" to other interested, not quite as skilled, providers if the circumstances were right? Holland Jane / Janey, for example.
Thoughts on potential candidates?
AG.
[QUOTE=PipersPit;4947648]So is her hand all fucked up currently then? She's very pretty but if she's got a mangled hand, that would be a real downer.[/QUOTE]The pictures she posted on Facebook after her surgery looked pretty bad, but when I saw her at Meijer several days after our date without her bandages on, it seems to have healed okay. I think she just can't really use it, and there are probably some infection or circulation issues that might necessitate amputation.
[QUOTE=Girls1;4948668]Tried again to see Bella, and the stars were aligned LOL.
Met her at her private location just off 28th st.
Very pretty woman. BBBJ, cfs. $. 2 with no rush.
She says she gets multiple texts / calls an hour, and I believe her.
Be polite via text, and you may get lucky as I did. I will repeat.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/bella/843533425576[/URL][/QUOTE]I've been trying, thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=Arish;4948714]I am just curious, has anyone actually paid a deposit to see her? I have talked to her a couple of times but when she asks if I want an appointment I say yes but I am not paying a deposit to see her. Now she changed her ad saying "no deposit, no appointment no exceptions. " She has the curves I like but not worth it to.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/thick-latina-pole-dancer/426834842279[/URL][/QUOTE]Never do a deposit with a non-established "pro" girl, like the ones who likely are going from city to city. Even then, don't do it. They (usually?) don't because they charge a lot more anyway, and are going to be much less likely to be ghosted by a guy. But if you were to with anyone, anything like half or full is Ridiculous. It'd be more like $20 at the most, and not a "new" concept for them to apply, either. And they have good reviews. OR you're willing to TOFTT at a small expense, and likely not getting that $20 back.
For a newer gal, throwing down, say, $70, for a hhr $140 visit -- it's about as wise as you agreeing to meet a girl a block from the police station. Hey, it's not a 0% chance of working out, butt you get the idea.
So her big red flags are:
- She wants a deposit, even on an INCALL just as much as an Outcall.
- She wants HALF as deposit, and by the looks of her, the price is going to be higher on the market, not lower. Super low market price would only give another red flag, if that were the case.
- She seems to want to instead aim for Video Chats as her primary goal. This combined with the HALF of price deposits scream real issue. At BEST, she's a newbie who doesn't want physical interactions, but is throwing it out there that she'll do it if you REALLY want to, at your own risk.
In the end, there's a reason almost all gals, good and bad, don't require a Deposit. Throwing ALL your money down when you visit a newbie gal is not a good idea. Throwing half your money digitally for a physical visit when her apparent ideal goal is Video Chats for cash -- is much worse than a bad idea.
I tried to meet up with Katana for a couples night recently. Perhaps I have been out of the game for too long, but I was quoted incall rates at $400 per hour and outcall at $450 per hour with a 2 hour minimum. I am all about paying for high quality time and service, but this seems too high.
Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=BigT0501;4947641]Thought I'd test out the spinner waters with Bella. Mixed reviews on her but things progressed smoothly yesterday afternoon to confirm. Our. Appointment for today. I mentioned that I would reconfirm our noon appointment this morning as well as getting her incall location. Sent text msge to her at 11:20 and again at 11:45. No response whatsoever. Finally told her at 12:25 that I would be reaching out to my regular.
Before I go out on the limb to say "typical inconsiderate holier than thou attitude", I'll give her the 24 hour benefit of the doubt that something urgent came up. I will not accept " I overslept or my phone went dead and couldn't find my charger" excuse.
If anyone else wants to chime in on overused excuses, please pile on within this forum.[/QUOTE]So Bella did circle back and offered a sincere apology for her gaffe. In addition to the apology, she offered something else that I'm taking her word at and am willing to stay for Act 3 (Resolution). Hoping to connect next week and will offer a Spoiler review.