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[QUOTE=Ib Mike;1522804]I made a trip to Skypark this morning and saw something that made me change my mind. I some some donuts in their wrapper near where I was going, which was no worry. Then on my second spin around before parking I saw one without a wrapper very near. This was enough for me to alter my plan. Be careful out there especially in light of recent events. I headed to another city and had a great time. More on that later.[/QUOTE]Here is a question for everyone. What happens if you are in the parlor when it gets busted?
I'm sure this video has been played out a ton of times, but check it out again.
[url]http://www.ocregister.com/video/v/35148907001/asian-chiropractor-news[/url]
The dudes have their faces covered and the cop says "they were getting their 'massages' here" and basically accusing them of paying for sex.
So what are the charges and what kind of fine / time are you looking at?
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[QUOTE=Milcanjose;1524793]Here is a question for everyone. What happens if you are in the parlor when it gets busted?[/QUOTE]Keep your mouth shut and don't say anything.
The cops are not your friends (in that situation) and anything you say will only hurt you, not help you.
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[QUOTE=Milcanjose; 1524793]Here is a question for everyone. What happens if you are in the parlor when it gets busted?
I'm sure this video has been played out a ton of times, but check it out again.
[url]http://www.ocregister.com/video/v/35148907001/asian-chiropractor-news[/url]
The dudes have their faces covered and the cop says "they were getting their 'massages' here" and basically accusing them of paying for sex.
So what are the charges and what kind of fine / time are you looking at?[/QUOTE]I think it all depends, what an answer! Like as shown below, the Male was published in the press release, with the charges Solicitation – Cited & Released. Having said that, he should have a listing on OCcourts. Org by now. All of the other participants are already on OCcourts. Him and his lady friend that he was visiting at Dexter, a latina, neither of them are on OCcourts which must mean they did not actually charge or dropped the charges.
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[QUOTE=Milcanjose; 1524793]Here is a question for everyone. What happens if you are in the parlor when it gets busted?
[QUOTE]happens to me twice. First time, I was in the room while being massage, heard lots of noise outside, my masseuse went outside to see what is up, came back told me the cops are here, and put on some clothes. Cop came in asked
Me about the massage, I stay cool and said it was good and I'm a regular there. Asked for my driver license but didn't write down anything. I said bye to the girls and told them I'll them again in a few weeks. The law works in your favor, innocent until proven guilty.
Second, I was there the day 400 fair goy busted. Cops were already there. When I got there, several cops car, I went to angel spa, cop told me it's close. Turn around and drove home. Remember, act cool and innocent. Its not illegal to get a massage.
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Bust
Unless they have Inculpatory evidence on you, (caught in the act, wearing a condom, etc. Etc) , then you won't be charged. If they ask what you're doing there, the answer's obvious; getting a therapeutic massage.
If they show up there to do a police-raid they can only arrest those for which they have arrest warrants, and those who do something stupid during the raid, BUT they can briefly stop everyone on the premises to take down their personal information so they can be later interrogates as "witnesses."
Of course the police could try to take advantage of the situation to scare some people into confessing, but technically they can't charge the person unless they get some evidence. So if you find yourself in the middle of a police-raid just be cool, stay out their way, and exercise your right to remain silent.
Their goal is to shut down the parlor.
Baggens.
[QUOTE=Milcanjose; 1524793]Here is a question for everyone. What happens if you are in the parlor when it gets busted?
I'm sure this video has been played out a ton of times, but check it out again.
[url]http://www.ocregister.com/video/v/35148907001/asian-chiropractor-news[/url]
The dudes have their faces covered and the cop says "they were getting their 'massages' here" and basically accusing them of paying for sex.
So what are the charges and what kind of fine / time are you looking at?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens; 1525350]Unless they have Inculpatory evidence on you, (caught in the act, wearing a condom, etc. Etc) , then you won't be charged. If they ask what you're doing there, the answer's obvious; getting a therapeutic massage.
If they show up there to do a police-raid they can only arrest those for which they have arrest warrants, and those who do something stupid during the raid, BUT they can briefly stop everyone on the premises to take down their personal information so they can be later interrogates as "witnesses."
Of course the police could try to take advantage of the situation to scare some people into confessing, but technically they can't charge the person unless they get some evidence. So if you find yourself in the middle of a police-raid just be cool, stay out their way, and exercise your right to remain silent.
Their goal is to shut down the parlor.
Baggens.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Defense Lawyer; 1105852]This is the age-old question of what can they get you for absent a sting where you are "caught in the act" speaking the forbidden words (such as I'll give you $50 for a blow job, or even something more veiled, like $50 for half & half).
In general, the law of prostitution is violated by soliciting someone to engage in an act of prostitution, agreeing to engage in an act of prostitution and taking an act in furtherance of said agreement (like driving to the location the undercover cop directs you to) , or engaging in an act of prostitution.
So, if the girl says nothing and you say nothing, then you're probably golden. But realize the reality of this, the girl may be on probation and the cop may squeeze her to give you up (which she would in a heartbeat if it would save her butt). If he gets her to admit that you solicited her, it would be enough for an arrest and charges. Ditto for agreeing. You haven't actually engaged in prostitution yet, so you're safe there.
Just stay silent, or have a really good story, and when they tell you they don't believe it, feign outrage and insist on having your attorney present. But don't let them keep questioning you.[/QUOTE]One of the posters in the forum, is Defense Lawyer. I think the paragraph where the girl may be on probation is interesting. I believe what Dildo Baggens says is likely true in many cases, the goal is to shut down the parlor. Having said that, the guy that got popped in the Irvine shutdowns, nothing in occourts, so maybe no citation nor charges, but his name showed up in a press release along with being published in the papers. I would think that would be damaging enough to most of us.
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[QUOTE=Oc Amper;1525480]One of the posters in the forum, is Defense Lawyer. I think the paragraph where the girl may be on probation is interesting. I believe what Dildo Baggens says is likely true in many cases, the goal is to shut down the parlor. Having said that, the guy that got popped in the Irvine shutdowns, nothing in occourts, so maybe no citation nor charges, but his name showed up in a press release along with being published in the papers. I would think that would be damaging enough to most of us.[/QUOTE]Good info. This one hit close to home for a couple reasons.
1) I recently visited one of the places busted (you can see my post a few days ago). I won't miss it, but the girl I saw showed up in the OC Register slide show and I feel bad for her.
2) the OC Register article was forwarded to me by a co-worker joking about a crime spree in Irvine. I'm sure everyone in the office would have thought it was even funnier if my name turned up in the press release.
Stay safe.
G
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[QUOTE=Fistfirst;1524443]The way I read it, donuts are cops, because of their infamous weakness for this item, and wrappers would be a patrol car, un-wrapped equaling an unmarked car.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks. Makes obvious sense now. At first I thought OC Amper was saying he was finding wrapped and unwrapped condoms in the parking lot. LOL.
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Minka
Does anyone know what happened to a Korean prostitute, Minka who used to own one of the best shops in Fullerton? She was also known as Jenny. After Fullerton she worked occassionaly at All Seasons in Downey as well as in Sacramento.
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Minka
There's a name from the past. She used to "check out" new customers in Fullerton by making sure she was the first to see them and then would "OK" them for other girls there. I'm not a BBFS fan, but she was about to push herself on me before I asked for "just BBBJ today".
Is there anything decent in North OC these days? I read occasionally about success in La Habra / Brea, but not much.
[QUOTE=Tjinla2001;1526283]Does anyone know what happened to a Korean prostitute, Minka who used to own one of the best shops in Fullerton? She was also known as Jenny. After Fullerton she worked occassionaly at All Seasons in Downey as well as in Sacramento.[/QUOTE]
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La habra / brea
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills; 1526405]There's a name from the past. She used to "check out" new customers in Fullerton by making sure she was the first to see them and then would "OK" them for other girls there. I'm not a BBFS fan, but she was about to push herself on me before I asked for "just BBBJ today".
Is there anything decent in North OC these days? I read occasionally about success in La Habra / Brea, but not much.[/QUOTE]Not much left around La Habra / Brea area.
They still have the one on West La Habra Blvd West of Costco but the gals there are now older.
Everything in Whittier seems cleaned up unfortunately too.
I'm more North OC. I work towards Hacienda but nothing there either.
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Don't Bother Moon River
Was combing back late fro LA at 9-10pm and thought I would try Newport Blvd / 55 near fairgrounds. Only wanted a quickie soft massage and happy. Holiday closed, Tried complex on fair and harbor, but all girls buys or closing.
Tried the blvd at 9:30, everyone closed except for Moon River at 9; :45.
Went in, got a good vibe from girl, probably 50 but nice looking, dressed in Jeans. I was ready.
Long story short was shut out 100. Even tried a little self service to earn her trust, but nothing.
Save your money.
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La habra / brea
It's ALL Gone!
The city of Whittier has really tightened up the codes for massage. I've also found out L. A. County is starting to crack down as well. Yep, the good ol' days are gone. Looks like it's hotel rooms and apartments from now on.
Baggens.
[QUOTE=SirMister; 1526408]Not much left around La Habra / Brea area.
They still have the one on West La Habra Blvd West of Costco but the gals there are now older.
Everything in Whittier seems cleaned up unfortunately too.
I'm more North OC. I work towards Hacienda but nothing there either.[/QUOTE]
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Greetings Baggens. What is your source that L. A. County is cracking down anymore than the sporadic harassment as usual that we see year to year? Also, I assume you're talking about cities within the county such as Whittier, but not the city of L. A. Itself, and definitely not the city of WeHo which is saturating with FS stores. I have seen some surprising busts in modest Thai rub and tugs over the last 12 months in central L. A, but all the players are back in business with new stores continuing to proliferate all over the place.
A couple of super sweet Thai girls I know were shaken up by the experience of spending a few hours in lock-up and have switched to incall in their private apartments and some outcall. Amazingly they were targeted in a real prostitution sting with undercovers on their tables waiting to be solicited for FS, but only being offered the typical Thai handywork. I'm not happy that the bastard bacon terrorized them for the therapeutic benefits that they offer to this community, but seeing them in their apartments (or mine) where they are working only for themselves, is a nice improvement over going to the "store".
About a year ago (?) the legality of MPs in the City of Los Angeles was covered in the news when some intrepid chick reporter revealed the proliferation of AMPs in Eagle Rock. Some of those places were busted but some may have closed for no other reason that they were fly by night operations in the 1st place. Still many places operating in the area.
But the real point is that the reporting stated that the city has looser MP restrictions than some surrounding cities, and so the pendejo porkers can't do too much about it. At least as to the rub and tugs where the girls are often in compliance with looser licensing rules than other cities which require CMTs. In Los Angeles, a girl with half the hours of training needed for CMT can legally work in an MP, though perhaps she needs to demonstrate that she's working for the CMT. I'm good with that law since I like good rubs with my tugs. Ordinances and regulations like licenses and condoms on premises and zoning constitute about 99% of the basis of most MP harassment in Los Angeles. So the codes need to be rewritten by the city council to give LE more muscle locally. I haven't heard of that happening. But then again I've been working too hard to read the papers recently.
[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens; 1527145]It's ALL Gone!
The city of Whittier has really tightened up the codes for massage. I've also found out L. A. County is starting to crack down as well. Yep, the good ol' days are gone. Looks like it's hotel rooms and apartments from now on.
Baggens.[/QUOTE]
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I've had luck at Moon River recently. Twice. The second time, though, was a large Asian woman in jeans. So I haven't been back.
So, let's say Moon River is a YMMV place.
[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1527041]Was combing back late fro LA at 9-10pm and thought I would try Newport Blvd / 55 near fairgrounds. Only wanted a quickie soft massage and happy. Holiday closed, Tried complex on fair and harbor, but all girls buys or closing.
Tried the blvd at 9:30, everyone closed except for Moon River at 9; :45.
Went in, got a good vibe from girl, probably 50 but nice looking, dressed in Jeans. I was ready.
Long story short was shut out 100. Even tried a little self service to earn her trust, but nothing.
Save your money.[/QUOTE]