Agency Discussion and Reviews

[QUOTE=LocalCustomer;7292371]Definitely sloppy and creamy with a submissive willingness to please, takes orders so well. DT maxes out early, but she's 4'10". She's soo tiny, it's quite a sensation. She must be around 80-85 lbs.[/QUOTE]I would concur that the BBBJ was sublime,. And she started an uncovered camel slide even though I did not pay for the option. I could easily have slid it in and she seemed to want to, but I stopped her since I didn't have the donation with me and wasn't sure if she was giving me a freebie. However, I would add that she is definitely NOT 20 years old,. She is at least late 20's and perhaps early 30's. When I spoke to her, she asked me to guess her age. I honestly thought "30" so I said "at least 27" and she said "you are right, just a little older. " But a fun session and very enthusiastic.

The agencies are getting worse and worse and far as I am concerned. I may start going to back to the motel "crap shoots". Went and saw Kiki at Asian Butterfly. Upon entering kitchen was a mess and another girl was cooking the kitchen. The photos are not even close, as she is 10 years older in person, and does not have natural C cups as advertised, but bad B cup MM's. I was shocked when Kiki walked me thru the kitchen and pulled a curtain back in the kitchen that had a mattress on the floor, and all the cleaning and paper supplies stacked up around the mattress. I had booked an hour GFE with her that was $100 more than the standard $200 hour fee. Back to visit, after I got over the shock of my visit was going to take place in the kitchen behind a curtain with a mattress on the floor, I got undressed to head to the shower. The shower was off another bedroom in the apartment, and you could hear another Monger in that room having a grand time! Shower was boring and uneventful. NO kissing, no BBJ preview. Back to the mattress she begins to give a mediocre BBJ. After a few minutes I have her put on the cover to mount me. As she starts to ride, I try and kiss her, and she turns her head away so that I can't, and I also try to suck her nipples but she pulls back not allowing me to! I couldn't even touch her ass or pussy! So I said screw it, and busted my first nut while she's on top. She cleans me up and proceeds to give me a massage. It was one of the most painful massages I ever had as it felt like she was going to break my back! I kept saying softer, but she does not speak much English. 10 minutes later she has me roll over and starts BBJ to kick of the second round. But the distractions / noises in the kitchen from the washing machine running, the dishwasher running, and another girl on the other side of the curtain talking on her phone, made it impossible for me to get hard again. So I cleaned up and left. I texted the booker as soon as I left to express my frustration, and he responded with "I am so sorry", and it will not happen again as they will getting larger apartment at the end of the month. What good does that do me today? I threw away hard earned money that could have been put to better use! [URL]https://www.asianbutterfly.online/[/URL]

[QUOTE=OlderNKinky;7292628]...Went and saw Kiki at Asian Butterfly. Upon entering kitchen was a mess and another girl was cooking the kitchen...after I got over the shock of my visit was going to take place in the kitchen behind a curtain with a mattress on the floor, I got undressed to head to the shower. The shower was off another bedroom in the apartment, and you could hear another Monger in that room having a grand time! ...the distractions / noises in the kitchen from the washing machine running, the dishwasher running, and another girl on the other side of the curtain talking on her phone, made it impossible for me to get hard again. So I cleaned up and left. I texted the booker as soon as I left to express my frustration, and he responded with "I am so sorry", and it will not happen again as they will getting larger apartment at the end of the month. What good does that do me today? I threw away hard earned money that could have been put to better use! [URL]https://www.asianbutterfly.online/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yikes! That sounds like AB's Merrifield location, right? I notice on their website that only the two Chinese girls, Kiki and Yaoyao, don't have a location listed. All of the others are Japanese and have Tysons listed as their location. I would love to see somebody like Luna but don't want to wind up at the same location that you did.

[QUOTE=OlderNKinky;7292628]The agencies are getting worse and worse and far as I am concerned. I may start going to back to the motel "crap shoots"..What good does that do me today? I threw away hard earned money that could have been put to better use! [URL]https://www.asianbutterfly.online/[/URL][/QUOTE]

There is no good solution for now, only for next time. You can write a review, you can research reviews, but that has a limit since most girls don't get enough reviews. There is a very last resort that works for some veteran customers, but it has to be used sparingly:

[QUOTE=Download X;7290577]Summary: Walk early at the door and ask the booker for another girl if it's obvious it won't work out. Walk on rebrands and explain to girl and booker. Walk early after shower if there is a serious hygene or attitude problem, but communicate. Obviously, don't do it all the time. The rest of this post explains all that with detailed steps, you don't have to read it since I've summed it up.[/QUOTE]

This advice is based on several friends who do this when needed. I don't do this just because I have the money and don't want the girl to feel bad. It's why I go through a lot of trouble of researching girls and writing reviews. I know a few reviewers who have the same preference as me (young, good looks) so it was lucky for me and easy to follow their girls - I simply ignored most reviewers because even though they are honest it doesn't help me.

Even when a MILF opened the door, I didn't waver because at least 80% of MILFs have skill and good attitude and were better than I expected. The problems were always the mid-looking girls who ended up with bad hygene or bad attitude. Good intel is the only way to weed those out, and I actually drove to the next city over just because that city had good intel for a while. So, there is no good solution but some options exist.

Independents average consistently much worse than kgirls. But at least if you find an specific independent you like, you can just repeat her nonstop. Toftt sucks everywhere.

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7291103]The curve ball was Luna. Surprise, surprise, as she ended up being S tier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LocalCustomer;7292371]Definitely sloppy and creamy with a submissive willingness to please, takes orders so well. DT maxes out early, but she's 4'10". She's soo tiny, it's quite a sensation. She must be around 80-85 lbs.[/QUOTE]

Everyone likes something different, but if you read reviews carefully you can increase your success rate.

[QUOTE=Btt123;7289364]Anyone know Lady Ari's last day?[/QUOTE]

On the bright side Ari will probably be back. Ari is an example of looks over service. I will overlook almost anything if a girl is young and hot, but most guys will not. Most guys want service over looks. So it's important to know your preference. It may take months but if you are truly a fan of Ari just wait.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7197260#post7197260[/URL] Lady Ari Meta
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7206114&viewfull=1#post7206114[/URL] Lady Ari
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7281363&viewfull=1#post7281363[/URL] Lady Ari

Of course, the other way to increase your success rate is to wait and repeat your ATFs.

[QUOTE=OlderNKinky;7292628]The agencies are getting worse and worse and far as I am concerned. I may start going to back to the motel "crap shoots". Went and saw Kiki at Asian Butterfly. Upon entering kitchen was a mess and another girl was cooking the kitchen. The photos are not even close, as she is 10 years older in person, and does not have natural C cups as advertised, but bad B cup MM's. I was shocked when Kiki walked me thru the kitchen and pulled a curtain back in the kitchen that had a mattress on the floor, and all the cleaning and paper supplies stacked up around the mattress. I had booked an hour GFE with her that was $100 more than the standard $200 hour fee. Back to visit, after I got over the shock of my visit was going to take place in the kitchen behind a curtain with a mattress on the floor, I got undressed to head to the shower. The shower was off another bedroom in the apartment, and you could hear another Monger in that room having a grand time! [/QUOTE]I told you guys last month. Their Merrifield location is awful although their Viet girl Wendy is good. Also, I don't like ahg and jb's location. I more like AE personally. At least good hotel.

[QUOTE=OlderNKinky;7292628]I texted the booker as soon as I left to express my frustration, and he responded with "I am so sorry", and it will not happen again as they will getting larger apartment at the end of the month. What good does that do me today? I threw away hard earned money that could have been put to better use! [URL]https://www.asianbutterfly.online/[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe this is the good news. At least they are finally getting another apartment. I chatted with their booker last month after I saw Wendy and she did told me they were trying to find an apartment around Tysons to change the situation. They had 3 girls at that time and only 2 bedrooms.

LOL, watch out, you're going to get an angry text from the booker the next time you try to use them and then get blocked.

Apparently, they'll try to get you blacklisted from all the other places as well just because you put up an honest review of a bad experience.

To the booker: I know you're reading this. If you really don't want bad reviews, then stop putting photo shopped pictures and get girls that actually will give decent service.

They can't ***** about not having enough customers while actively banning just because of a poor review.

[QUOTE=OlderNKinky;7292628]The agencies are getting worse and worse and far as I am concerned. I may start going to back to the motel "crap shoots". Went and saw Kiki at Asian Butterfly. Upon entering kitchen was a mess and another girl was cooking the kitchen. The photos are not even close, as she is 10 years older in person, and does not have natural C cups as advertised, but bad B cup MM's. I was shocked when Kiki walked me thru the kitchen and pulled a curtain back in the kitchen that had a mattress on the floor, and all the cleaning and paper supplies stacked up around the mattress. I had booked an hour GFE with her that was $100 more than the standard $200 hour fee. Back to visit, after I got over the shock of my visit was going to take place in the kitchen behind a curtain with a mattress on the floor, I got undressed to head to the shower. The shower was off another bedroom in the apartment, and you could hear another Monger in that room having a grand time! Shower was boring and uneventful. NO kissing, no BBJ preview. Back to the mattress she begins to give a mediocre BBJ. After a few minutes I have her put on the cover to mount me. As she starts to ride, I try and kiss her, and she turns her head away so that I can't, and I also try to suck her nipples but she pulls back not allowing me to! I couldn't even touch her ass or pussy! So I said screw it, and busted my first nut while she's on top. She cleans me up and proceeds to give me a massage. It was one of the most painful massages I ever had as it felt like she was going to break my back! I kept saying softer, but she does not speak much English. 10 minutes later she has me roll over and starts BBJ to kick of the second round. But the distractions / noises in the kitchen from the washing machine running, the dishwasher running, and another girl on the other side of the curtain talking on her phone, made it impossible for me to get hard again. So I cleaned up and left. I texted the booker as soon as I left to express my frustration, and he responded with "I am so sorry", and it will not happen again as they will getting larger apartment at the end of the month. What good does that do me today? I threw away hard earned money that could have been put to better use! [URL]https://www.asianbutterfly.online/[/URL][/QUOTE]

You guys made Gina (AHG) super popular, everytime I was free, I want to book a same day appointment, she almost booked. So when I saw another Gina (AsianELF) is back, I changed my target. Since from my visit with her last year, she was gorgeous and bubbly. I want to see her again. So I decide to schedule for a lunchtime romp with her.

Arrive at the door, Gina lets me in and welcomes me. She is wearing a black dress. Looked great on her. Quick kiss, then a couple of more, and giggles. Nice touch. Then leads me to her room.

We kiss a bit more after I handed her donation. She starts to tug at my shirt and helps me undress. She grabs jr while giving me the wow and devilish smile. She slips out of her lingerie and we make out some more. I let my hands start exploring a bit before she stops and leads me to the bathroom. We do the mouthwash thing before hopping into the shower. I'm the shower, we make out some more. When she is bent over a bit, I start to fondle her ass. She backs it up and starts to grind against jr. When she stands up, I reach around and grope her tits. Does a good cleaning on the front and a quick one on the back. She has me turn around again, drops down and gives a good BBBJ preview. She asks if I liked, give her the thumbs up, she giggles again. We finish up in there, helps me dry off and back to the room we go.

We make out some more before she drags me to the edge of the bed and has me sit down. She lifts her leg and puts it over mine, giving me good access to her booty and pussy. Make out some more before she puts her tits in my face. Give each of them the love and attention they deserve. My hand slowly makes its way to her bare kitty and rub it a bit. I can tell she did not prelube up. She then drops down to start licking my nipples and slowly goes down to jr. This is where she shows off her skills. She starts with a tongue teasing the tip before engulfing jr. She alternates between slow and fast, going as deep as she can, playing with the tip with her tongue. Jerks it off a bit while licking the tip. A lot of eye contact during all of this.

After a good while of this, I ask her for 69. I lay down on the bed and help her climb on top. This is probably the disappointing part of the visit. Only because it doesn't last as long as I would have liked LOL. She has a nice clean kitty. I think I find her spot because she starts to gyrate and moan a bit. Try to DATO a bit but she kind of pulls away so I don't try anymore. I may have misread it, but decide not to push it.

Sadly, she doesn't stay in this position for too long before she is ready for the main event. She grabs a cover, slips it on and climbs on top. She starts to rub a bit before she lifts herself up a bit and inserts me in. She leans down and makes out with me while we start to get into a good rhythm. I grab a hold of her booty and help her fuck me good. She sits up so I put my hands around her waist. She leans back and fucks me harder. She starts to moan a bit louder. Sits up then leans in again and makes out some more. When she can tell I am about to pop, she tells me she is about to cum. That pushes me over and tell her I'm about to pop so we give each other a few more hard thrusts and I pop in the cover.

She helps clean me up and then tells me to turn over for a massage. She probably gave me one of the better massages I have received recently. I would say she gave light to medium pressure. There were a few times, whatever she was doing, she was trying to put her full body weight into it. She would stop every now and then and make sure I was okay. We also chats a lot when she gives me a massage. She has an international student background, so there are no issues with English communication. She Massage takes us dangerously close to the end of the 45 mins session. We get up, do another mouth wash and a quick shower. She helps dry me off but then tells me she is going to shower. I go back to the room and start to get dressed. She comes out of the bathroom and helps me finish getting dressed. We kiss some more, thanks me for coming to see her. Asks if I had a good time which I tell her absolutely. Walks me to the door. Some more kissing before wishing me a good day and off I go.

I definitely had a good time with Gina. Chatted more with Gina, I felt like I was with a fwb, not a working girl. I will repeat with Gina. But anyway keep in mind, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Jorum;7292839]LOL, watch out, you're going to get an angry text from the booker the next time you try to use them and then get blocked.

Apparently, they'll try to get you blacklisted from all the other places as well just because you put up an honest review of a bad experience.

To the booker: I know you're reading this. If you really don't want bad reviews, then stop putting photo shopped pictures and get girls that actually will give decent service.

They can't ***** about not having enough customers while actively banning just because of a poor review.[/QUOTE]Really? Will Asian Butterfly block you for writing a bad review? So you had been blocked by them?

[QUOTE=Jorum;7292839]LOL, watch out, you're going to get an angry text from the booker the next time you try to use them and then get blocked.

Apparently, they'll try to get you blacklisted from all the other places as well just because you put up an honest review of a bad experience.

To the booker: I know you're reading this. If you really don't want bad reviews, then stop putting photo shopped pictures and get girls that actually will give decent service.

They can't ***** about not having enough customers while actively banning just because of a poor review.[/QUOTE]

I'll list examples to illustrate the issue.

First, SSG in LA said they could/would block mongers from other agencies. [I]They were lying every single time.[/I] No one was ever once blocked from other agencies. In fact, years later it turned out that the other agencies hated SSG. This is a case where a dog that can't bite will simply bark loudly. Of course, an agency does have the right to refuse service (maybe sometimes for a legitimate reason), but my observation is even this is not common. They want your business.

Second, another agency threatened to blacklist its own customers for bad reviews. When proven, that agency was banned from TER. 10 years of reviews for every single girl from that agency were deleted, and to this day you still cannot read them anymore. After that, the agency stopped sending out threats and were allowed back in to TER. The TER admin and USAG admin take extreme measures to ensure people can review fairly. No korg has had to learn that same lesson again since.

Third, some friends have long reviewed girls freely and among them not one I know has had an actual problem. We all still book girls normally due to competition and choice. It helps that they are established customers, and they don't write negative reviews often anyways. Most of us hate writing negative reviews, it is a last resort. When I write about a girl I didn't like, I still try to fairly list out her pros and cons because maybe someone else will still like her. Others are less kind, but still using their agency.

Bookers will beg or threaten but this is barking with no bite. They will rely on implied consequences or making someone feel uncomfortable because that's all they can. No korg has ever proven themselves unsafe by following through with some of the things they suggested. I even publicly pointed this out. No one would ever use them again if they did.

Of course, if things aren't working out repeatedly, go to the other agencies and move on. Simply having a choice is what drives improvement.

I've got the chat history from them.

Regardless, they're reading this forum and still not understanding that the blatant photoshopping and bait-switching is going overboard and extremely unprofessional. If they can't provide the service they advertise, especially when they keep jacking up prices, then they should be prepared for dissatisfied reviews.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7292903]I'll list examples to illustrate the issue.

First, SSG in LA said they could/would block mongers from other agencies. [I]They were lying every single time.[/I] No one was ever once blocked from other agencies. In fact, years later it turned out that the other agencies hated SSG. This is a case where a dog that can't bite will simply bark loudly. Of course, an agency does have the right to refuse service (maybe sometimes for a legitimate reason), but my observation is even this is not common. They want your business.

Second, another agency threatened to blacklist its own customers for bad reviews. When proven, that agency was banned from TER. 10 years of reviews for every single girl from that agency were deleted, and to this day you still cannot read them anymore. After that, the agency stopped sending out threats and were allowed back in to TER. The TER admin and USAG admin take extreme measures to ensure people can review fairly. No korg has had to learn that same lesson again since.

Third, some friends have long reviewed girls freely and among them not one I know has had an actual problem. We all still book girls normally due to competition and choice. It helps that they are established customers, and they don't write negative reviews often anyways. Most of us hate writing negative reviews, it is a last resort. When I write about a girl I didn't like, I still try to fairly list out her pros and cons because maybe someone else will still like her. Others are less kind, but still using their agency.

Bookers will beg or threaten but this is barking with no bite. They will rely on implied consequences or making someone feel uncomfortable because that's all they can. No korg has ever proven themselves unsafe by following through with some of the things they suggested. I even publicly pointed this out. No one would ever use them again if they did.

Of course, if things aren't working out repeatedly, go to the other agencies and move on. Simply having a choice is what drives improvement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jorum;7293186]Regardless, they're reading this forum and still not understanding that the blatant photoshopping and bait-switching is going overboard and extremely unprofessional. If they can't provide the service they advertise, especially when they keep jacking up prices, then they should be prepared for dissatisfied reviews.[/QUOTE]

About photoshopping, this is a different problem issue. You'll notice that girls usually use the same photos even when they switch agencies / bookers, even if they go to a different city or competing agency. The booker often has no say, he is posting what the girl's agent sends them. He has to. So it is a problem with B+S, but a different person made that decision. Within korgs MILFs tend to get photoshopped into HYA, which makes it harder to separate the two. The simple rule is photos don't tell us much, only people who have seen a girl can tell us anything.

Since I prefer looks over service, I have to ignore all photos and rely on reviewers I know well. I have not looked at a kgirl ad photo to make a decision in 10 years, because I learned that lesson that long ago. It's why I don't think the problem will go away.

If you are a "looks first" guy, you must identify other reliable looks first reviewers who are specific enough on the girl. For example if I say a girl is very skinny and young, well obviously if you don't prioritize those things then even though I like her you won't. Same if you are a service first guy. I always warn service first guys about HYA I like, that they'll probably be disappointed in the service. But some of them will see the HYA anyways. They'll usually agree the girl is cute or hot but then complain how her service wasn't good enough, it's too predictable. This goes double for jgirl HYA - most jgirl lovers are automatically "looks first" since that's what jgirls tend to offer. So my Mari review in February had this in bold:

[QUOTE=Download X;7209817][B]I try to be upfront that I am biased for jgirls, so for anyone who isn't a jgirl lover just stop reading here.[/B]. I'm not trying to win anyone over, my jgirl reviews are for [I]other jgirl lovers[/I][/QUOTE]

It's not good enough to review girls honestly, you have to remind people with different taste than you of that. Service hunters are often going to like MILFs for example, I used to enjoy them too.

When I got one too many B+S girls, I switched agencies. Years later, I switched back. Now I see that there are going to be girls I want spread around. Choice and intel are the solutions.

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C-org / Asian Elf: Jgirl Gina (no), Jgirl Mimi (BB), Jgirl Sakura (BB).

C-org / Asian Hot Girl / Asian Sensation: Jgirl Gina (no), Jgirl Yumi (BB), Singapore Daisy (no), Jgirl Kana (BB), Jgirl Ava (BB).

C-org / Joyful Bay: Jgirl Haru (BB), Jgirl Yurina (BB), Jgirl Hazel (BB).

C-org / Firefox: TBD.

C-org / Asian Butterfly: Jgirl Luna (BB), Jgirl Hina (BB Video), Jgirl Haruka (BB Video), Cgirl YaoYao (no).

C-org / Angel East: Latin Karolay (no), Cgirl Miya (no).

K-org / Discreet Story: Jin (BB / TBD), Lady Ari (BB).

K-org / Club Paradise: Melody (BB), Jenny (no).

K-org / Asian Top Model: Diana (BB), Vgirl Baby Blue (BB).

K-org / DMV Girls: Almond (BB), Nari (no), Jgirl Sui (BB Video).

K-org / Asian Gem: Lucy (BB), Judy (BB).

K-org / K-Star: Gia (BB), Baby Joo (BB).

Which agencies employ good facilities? I don't want to spend intimate time with a lady in filth and clutter. ATM is fantastic in this regard, who are some others? I don't care if they're fancy, they just need to be clean and welcoming.

[QUOTE=IntelRobot12;7293320]Which agencies employ good facilities? I don't want to spend intimate time with a lady in filth and clutter. ATM is fantastic in this regard, who are some others? I don't care if they're fancy, they just need to be clean and welcoming.[/QUOTE]I think K orgs are all good. But J / C orgs are all not good. AE / FFC maybe better, I don't like that condo that JB and AHG use...