Non Pro's

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7244766]Any advise on the following:

-if neither can host, working in the cost of the hotel into their rate. So if they want 500 but we need a hotel, then they should take 400.[/QUOTE]My advice is don't do this. Most women from the site hate that. Rather, be firm but reasonable on your offer of ppm. If they eventually do offer the ability to host, then you can be open to slightly upping the ppm as you'll still come out ahead.

[QUOTE]-getting them off the site and into text is key but found some girls that won't kiss, so it is one of the first things I ask after we agree on a price, what their rules are. Any other tips.[/QUOTE]I had one that wouldn't kiss but she gave great head, took it everywhere, and was always on time and reliable. Normally, no kissing is a totally dealbreaker. Honestly, the meet / greet method gives you a read on the type of woman you're meeting. Many are non pros and act like non pros. They're the best SBs but not always the best sex.

Weirdly, my non-kisser was a total non pro, just irrational about kissing.

[QUOTE]-any other general tips to save time. Lots of time invested then they don't pan out due to taking forever to text back or schedules don't align.[/QUOTE]Seeking is a time waster. No doubt. The more aggressive you get in trying to set terms immediately, the more many of the women will just ghost.

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7235750]Yeah, kind of the whole reason I go the sugar route is to avoid those LOL But you know if she almost cuts the price immediately, maybe the condom is optional too.

Looks like she just added that opera video to her profile. Something about a women singing in Italian with not much on could get me hard enough to wrap up.[/QUOTE]Reporting back on Anna as I saw her last week. She is a tall ex-professional dancer who is now a stripper at Devil's Triangle in SLU. We texted for a bit and she was cold, but still decided to give it a try. Agreed to meet at her place as I am free late mornings. Met her (brought coffee which was a win) and she had a cute little thing on and her apartment is nice. She has average size tits and a small ass, but is very long and gives off great sensual vibes. We chatted for a while, she is pretty easy to chat with and got down to it. It was a good time, she begged for another round even though I had to go so I gave her what she wanted. The condom was a requirement, no negotiating there, but even though she said no kissing we were making out like high school kids pretty quickly. I think she has been burned by clients at the club as well as other SD and is wary. She also might be moving away soon, but I plan on seeing her again.

One huge downside? She has a cat and the place very much smells like she has a cat, which is pretty damn close to a deal breaker for me. But she def is worth the trip again.

[QUOTE=Markro3000;7244909]My advice is don't do this. Most women from the site hate that. Rather, be firm but reasonable on your offer of ppm. If they eventually do offer the ability to host, then you can be open to slightly upping the ppm as you'll still come out ahead.

I had one that wouldn't kiss but she gave great head, took it everywhere, and was always on time and reliable. Normally, no kissing is a totally dealbreaker. Honestly, the meet / greet method gives you a read on the type of woman you're meeting. Many are non pros and act like non pros. They're the best SBs but not always the best sex.

Weirdly, my non-kisser was a total non pro, just irrational about kissing.

Seeking is a time waster. No doubt. The more aggressive you get in trying to set terms immediately, the more many of the women will just ghost.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. One other thing I'm finding is that most these girls are horrible at communicating via text. I would imagine they have 1 K unread texts all the time. Its hard to get them to respond to get details to make sure I'm aligned with them (rate, rules, hosting, etc.). I try to get as much of that info as possible so that the Meet and greet is not a waste of time.

Also, I do not like to pay for Meet and greets. But fiding that harder to find.

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7245855]Thanks for this. One other thing I'm finding is that most these girls are horrible at communicating via text. I would imagine they have 1 K unread texts all the time. Its hard to get them to respond to get details to make sure I'm aligned with them (rate, rules, hosting, etc.). I try to get as much of that info as possible so that the Meet and greet is not a waste of time.

Also, I do not like to pay for Meet and greets. But fiding that harder to find.[/QUOTE]Assume they have the attention span of a cat. If you text them, text one subject at a time. If you text three questions in one text they invariably will only respond to one of the questions. Called me jaded but most of these women aren't on SA because they got their act together and are organized.

[QUOTE=Twister100;7246526]Called me jaded but most of these women aren't on SA because they got their act together and are organized.[/QUOTE]That's pretty correct. The way I see it the Sugar Bowl is where women who are too dysfunctional to be strippers or escorts end up. And a lot of these girls would be gold medalists if being dysfunctional was an Olympic sport.

Some of them can fake it (being a normal adult) for a while bit it inevitably leads to a messy downward spiral.

One of them I saw for a few years in the early 2010s is a Poster Child for how low the bottom can be. She sometimes calls or emails me (inevitably to hit me up for money). Last phone call I got from her she was living in the bushes in Hawaii with some guy and shoplifting for food. She has a fucking masters degree in international business and speaks six languages.

Messaged this one and this is the response I got.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/73924556b252dacf[/URL]

LOL what a cap.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7249089]Messaged this one and this is the response I got.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/73924556b252dacf[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7249089]Messaged this one and this is the response I got.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/73924556b252dacf[/URL][/QUOTE]She probably should have stayed with that daddy LOL.

[QUOTE=LeeGroinman;7212853]Crown tatt on her neck. Stripper locker room photo. Looks familiar but not sure from where (TNA maybe? Definite pro vibes, seriously doubt "open minded" is what you hope it means.[/QUOTE]She is a stripper at kittens.

Look at this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e10581c-4083-4eed-bff7-057aca70b877[/URL]

😂128584;.

"I'm the asset that doesn't depreciate—and I don't do penny stocks. You're used to evaluating ROI, so let me make it easy: I'm rare, in demand, and only increase in value when you invest generously. ".

This can't be real haha.

[QUOTE=Ultimate90;7250237]Look at this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e10581c-4083-4eed-bff7-057aca70b877[/URL]

"I'm the asset that doesn't depreciateand I don't do penny stocks. You're used to evaluating ROI, so let me make it easy: I'm rare, in demand, and only increase in value when you invest generously. ".

This can't be real haha.[/QUOTE]Women think that are the Only thing on earth that gets better with age AND use!! Simps will line her pockets, pump her ego and the GPS beat goes on. It's nearly impossible to find a decent SB any longer. All this " worth " garbage. And the distant they have for anything less than the luxuries of the top 1% is crazy. Tony Burch bags will now get you salt daddy status.

She's cooked.

[QUOTE=Ultimate90;7250237]Look at this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e10581c-4083-4eed-bff7-057aca70b877[/URL]

😂128584;.

"I'm the asset that doesn't depreciateand I don't do penny stocks. You're used to evaluating ROI, so let me make it easy: I'm rare, in demand, and only increase in value when you invest generously. ".

This can't be real haha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonLaw;7250445]She's cooked.[/QUOTE]She's on the other board, Indica something or rather.

[QUOTE=MrG2J;7250517]She's on the other board, Indica something or rather.[/QUOTE]Found her: [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/indica-better-than-the-strain.2920748/[/URL].

LOL at the review comment, links to her old tna account: [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/%F0%9F%94%A5specials%F0%9F%92%A6blonde-%F0%9F%92%8Bslim-thick%F0%9F%98%9C-%F0%9F%92%A6college-student-%F0%9F%93%9A.2693974/[/URL]#post-14279705.

Apparently known thief / robber.

LOL these women are wild.

[QUOTE=MrG2J;7250517]She's on the other board, Indica something or rather.[/QUOTE]Got to be cheaper as an escort than an SB!