[QUOTE=SSurfer;2189322]It appears they are both working at Blooming massage near the location mentioned.[/QUOTE]I have never had a massage from either of these girls are they Natasha or Camile good?
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[QUOTE=SSurfer;2189322]It appears they are both working at Blooming massage near the location mentioned.[/QUOTE]I have never had a massage from either of these girls are they Natasha or Camile good?
[QUOTE=Bloozer;2189237]I posted and am sending PM's about Lyna at MamaDees. It seems as tho some mongers aren't experiencing the same things that I did. I'm concerned about this. What do I do about it? Talk to her? That doesn't seem right. I know this happens, but it makes me look like a freakin' idiot and I don't like it. I'm rather pissed off about. It, What the hell do I do? If anything.[/QUOTE]I think you let it roll. As always, YMMV- and you have a good rep here. Thanks for the update though!
I went to MD's today and saw Farrah. Pretty face, perky everywhere you'd like her to be. I got a nice massage, I paid for 30 min and she asked me to flip at 25 min, so far so good. Then she asks what I'm looking for, I ask her what's on the menu and she replies "everything. " We agreed on a price (which was everything I had) for CFS. She tells me she's got to go get a top hat for this party. Five minutes later she comes back and says no one has a top hat. I pull one out of my pocket, she says she can't use it because she doesn't know how old or what condition the top hat is in. Ok fair enough. She tells me to lay down, she finishes me with a good HE.
This is where it gets sketchy, I go to grab my money off the table and it's GONE. I ask if she took the money and she says "yes I turned it in already. " So then I say to her but that was a tip for FS not just for your hands. She replies that they don't reimburse tips and tells me I can leave now. I look at her and ask her if she's serious and she says there's nothing she can do and tells me to have a nice day. Two bad experiences in a row!? Never going back.
[QUOTE=MarkWa;2187767]Wow, in the world of economics the demand for massage parlors in GR must be pretty high. Last Tuesday I had a couple of minutes and thought I would get a quick massage. Went to Serenity only to see a sign that said all workers are busy and to come back later, went down the road to Bella Gente and the boys running the counter said that they were full and I could get an appointment for an hour later if I chose. Finally ended up at panacea only to find they only had a room available for 30 minutes "max" was the word. Took the 30 and had Heather. Nice enough girl but very light and not a very good massage followed by an average at best HE. If demand keeps this high we will soon see prices rising since they will be able to do it.[/QUOTE]The girls aren't always busy, you must have been hunting during prime time. Lunch hour and after work, on your way home is the busiest time.
I noticed that you went to Serenity first then to Bella, if you go the other direction on plainfield you can find Wonder Massage. If you call them they will tell you where they are hidden, can't find it without directions.
Happy hunting.
It has been awhile that I've seen anything written about E / W, how has the service been lately? I noticed that Emily was posting in the escort section of back page and have been thinking of dropping in on her.
[QUOTE=CapAugieNemo;2191123]It has been awhile that I've seen anything written about E / W, how has the service been lately? I noticed that Emily was posting in the escort section of back page and have been thinking of dropping in on her.[/QUOTE]Have you not read the reviews on Emily?
Stay far away.
She wants $110 for a HE massage.
[QUOTE=Avery616;2191150]Have you not read the reviews on Emily?
Stay far away.
She wants $110 for a HE massage.[/QUOTE]That is why I asked about reviews lately. I remember her reviews.
[QUOTE=Benz1;2190284]The girls aren't always busy, you must have been hunting during prime time. Lunch hour and after work, on your way home is the busiest time.
I noticed that you went to Serenity first then to Bella, if you go the other direction on plainfield you can find Wonder Massage. If you call them they will tell you where they are hidden, can't find it without directions.
Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]The funny thing was it was between 1:45 and 2:15 that this happened, which is usually a pretty quiet time. I do know about Wonder, but for the most part I don't go there anymore, never really had a good time since Camille left there.
[QUOTE=MarkWa;2191603]The funny thing was it was between 1:45 and 2:15 that this happened, which is usually a pretty quiet time. I do know about Wonder, but for the most part I don't go there anymore, never really had a good time since Camille left there.[/QUOTE]Looks like a few of us mongers need to get together and open our own MP.
[QUOTE=Benz1;2192142]Looks like a few of us mongers need to get together and open our own MP.[/QUOTE]I like it! I'll be an investor. We got to set it up near Holland! (Damn, I goofed maybe I should've put this in the Holland section).
Monger Massage!
[QUOTE=Bloozer;2192232]I like it! I'll be an investor. We got to set it up near Holland! (Damn, I goofed maybe I should've put this in the Holland section).
Monger Massage![/QUOTE]The problem with that idea is that we would all want to embezzle the product instead!
[QUOTE=Benz1;2192142]Looks like a few of us mongers need to get together and open our own MP.[/QUOTE]Monger Massage! Love it!! Problem is the staff would be worn out in a week!
[QUOTE=MarkWa;2192494]The problem with that idea is that we would all want to embezzle the product instead![/QUOTE]Taking embezzlement into consideration. Her pay would be small, but her tips would be large! (especially mine.).
I recently went to Bella and had Jennifer. She gave a great massage. She know what she was doing. I guess she is no longer working there. Does anyone know where she went? I went in to bella again and got some beautiful lady. She gave a ok massage but with a ton of oil. She handed me a towl and spry bottle of alcohol to whip off the oil.
Stopped in tonight for a massage, no extras were had, but Annah was dressed to tease in a short skirt and Lacy boxers, the Massage was great. When she knelt around my head (I was face down though 😒 I could feel her smooth legs on my cheeks which had me shifting uncomfortably for a moment. I'm going to keep stopping in and see if she loosens up over time. She crept closer to an extra, but not tonight.
[QUOTE=DireVolf;2190178]I went to MD's today and saw Farrah. Pretty face, perky everywhere you'd like her to be. I got a nice massage, I paid for 30 min and she asked me to flip at 25 min, so far so good. Then she asks what I'm looking for, I ask her what's on the menu and she replies "everything. " We agreed on a price (which was everything I had) for CFS. She tells me she's got to go get a top hat for this party. Five minutes later she comes back and says no one has a top hat. I pull one out of my pocket, she says she can't use it because she doesn't know how old or what condition the top hat is in. Ok fair enough. She tells me to lay down, she finishes me with a good HE.
This is where it gets sketchy, I go to grab my money off the table and it's GONE. I ask if she took the money and she says "yes I turned it in already. " So then I say to her but that was a tip for FS not just for your hands. She replies that they don't reimburse tips and tells me I can leave now. I look at her and ask her if she's serious and she says there's nothing she can do and tells me to have a nice day. Two bad experiences in a row!? Never going back.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience with e / w talked to mom's got reimbursed, because I called the girl out in front of her co-workers.
I advise you do the same, it is a business, not a one way street.
[QUOTE=Improven;2195012]I had a similar experience with e / w talked to mom's got reimbursed, because I called the girl out in front of her co-workers.
I advise you do the same, it is a business, not a one way street.[/QUOTE]They don't play that game with me. I tell them upfront. I tip a waitress after the service. If they don't like it, I'm out the door.
[QUOTE=Improven;2195012]I had a similar experience with e / w talked to mom's got reimbursed, because I called the girl out in front of her co-workers.
I advise you do the same, it is a business, not a one way street.[/QUOTE]Gents, this is total bs and you were robbed. I have gotten to know many of the girls at multiple AMPs. When you pay them, they only turn in the house fee to mamasan, NOT the tip, which they keep to themselves.
As advice to all newbies, my cash isn't set down till I am confident of service to be rendered. In this instance, thinking you were going to get FS in five minutes was a pipedream.
I would have banked that info for the next time, scheduled an hour, and started the fun half way through.
An expensive lesson others can learn from.
I've never had any cash and dash issues with E / W or Mama Dees! I've never had to hand over any cash until the massage is over and I'm dressed and ready to leave. I stay away from all these new girls Mama brings through. I stick with the girls that have been there a while and have built up a fan base.
Helluva way to have TOFTT turn out!
NJ.
[QUOTE]I've never had any cash and dash issues with E / W or Mama Dees! I've never had to hand over any cash until the massage is over and I'm dressed and ready to leave. Stick with the girls that have been there a while and have built up a fan base.
.[/QUOTE]I too was at East west last week as I had at least 200 to blow and I wanted to check the monger / gent story / theory and from what I saw / observe, east west are probably only charging someone the massage fee upfront as I stayed past my time and why I had to tip atleast 20 without any extra as Melissa was so nice in her hard / soft massage and nicky or annie where abit okay LOL.
Also / Lastly, as I and some other members have written before, guys have to learn how to control that head between them two legs and be willing to only get a massage if the tip amount is too much for them, since the females are normally careful of even guys who have been there before as they don't know if the guy might be trying to set them up too, especially if the gent / monger is being too upfront.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2195410]I've never had any cash and dash issues with E / W or Mama Dees! I've never had to hand over any cash until the massage is over and I'm dressed and ready to leave. I stay away from all these new girls Mama brings through. I stick with the girls that have been there a while and have built up a fan base.
Helluva way to have TOFTT turn out!
NJ.[/QUOTE]My experience with E / W some time ago started out real good as the girls came out and said I could choose. Some how the 4 pretty hot ones talked me into taking the worst of the bunch. Payment was upfront for the massage which lasted 10-15 minutes. She said to flip and that a handshake was $40 and had to pay before hand. I agreed and just like the massage was ok at best. I have not been back.
I think maybe some guys are expecting too much on visit #1 at E / W or Mama Dees. Unless you are Brad Pitt, don't expect the hottest girls to fight over you when you do a walk in. Do some research and call to set up an appointment with one of the ladies. Make an HOUR long appointment. The girls get a bigger cut of the $60 fee than they do on the half hour fee. This makes them happier. I've heard many of the ladies grumble over half hour appointments unless the Gent is a Big Tipper.
When I see a lady for the first time, I always make an appointment, no walk in. I always do an hour. When she comes in the room I say my "friend" John Doe or whatever recommended you because your massage is great and you are really cute and sweet. I never ask for any extras. I let her do her thing while I ask her questions about herself.
On the flip, I don't say a word about "Junior" standing at attention. Out of the last 6 new girls I saw, I got HE from 5 of them. The exception being the 76th St place by the truck stop. I think they have Penisphobia!
Just my 2 cents guys. YMMV Have Fun.
NJ.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2196042]I think maybe some guys are expecting too much on visit #1 at E / W or Mama Dees. Unless you are Brad Pitt, don't expect the hottest girls to fight over you when you do a walk in. Do some research and call to set up an appointment with one of the ladies. Make an HOUR long appointment. The girls get a bigger cut of the $60 fee than they do on the half hour fee. This makes them happier. I've heard many of the ladies grumble over half hour appointments unless the Gent is a Big Tipper.
When I see a lady for the first time, I always make an appointment, no walk in. I always do an hour. When she comes in the room I say my "friend" John Doe or whatever recommended you because your massage is great and you are really cute and sweet. I never ask for any extras. I let her do her thing while I ask her questions about herself.
On the flip, I don't say a word about "Junior" standing at attention. Out of the last 6 new girls I saw, I got HE from 5 of them. The exception being the 76th St place by the truck stop. I think they have Penisphobia!
Just my 2 cents guys. YMMV Have Fun.
NJ.[/QUOTE]It sounds like everyone has a lot of wild, wide-ranging experiences at Mamma Dee's and East West, both owned by Mamasan Dee. I've had massage from Dee, Tiffany (no longer there) and another chick (can't remember name) who ain't there anymore. Honestly, none of my experiences were that good. It's not relaxing. I always feel like I can hear everything going on in the hallway--major mood killer. Or someone might hear me. It's cold. There's always too many chicks standing around, waiting for action, being a nuisance. It's overpriced. And sometimes, actually most times, YMMV. I've gone there and not had HE. I was like, WTF! Dee once gave me some crap about how, "we don't do that here. " Yeah, please. I've been here before lady, I told her. It sounds like some of you have had a good time. But I say it isn't worth it. That's just my 2 cents.
I finally was lucky enough to catch Natasha working and available and I have to agree with all the GR hype. She is extremely attractive, a good conservationist, and gives an excellent massage. If I lived in GR, I would visit Panacea weekly.
Got to see Aliese this week up to Panasea. Our schedules had not meshed in quite some time. This woman is a beauty in every way. She doesn't short you on your time. She is a terrific masseuse with strong soft hands. Very pleasent to talk and joke with. If I was a little bit (ok alot) younger I'd be chasing after her. Pretty face and everything I've seen of her, just like god intended it to be. Never have seen Natasha up there, but short of that, Aliese is my ATF. I have heard those 2 will do 4 hands. If I ever do, it was nice "knowing" you all. What a way to go.
[QUOTE=Happyone99;2200102]Got to see Aliese this week up to Panasea. Our schedules had not meshed in quite some time. This woman is a beauty in every way. She doesn't short you on your time. She is a terrific masseuse with strong soft hands. Very pleasent to talk and joke with. If I was a little bit (ok alot) younger I'd be chasing after her. Pretty face and everything I've seen of her, just like god intended it to be. Never have seen Natasha up there, but short of that, Aliese is my ATF. I have heard those 2 will do 4 hands. If I ever do, it was nice "knowing" you all. What a way to go.[/QUOTE]I have done the 4 hand with Alise and Natasha. I actually gave Natasha the choice of who I should schedule. Her with and she chose Alise.
Both arr very attractive. They intrracted a tiny bit. They took turns on me. In the end. I still prefer Natasha hands down. If you have never done a 4 hand then I would recommend this combo. Now that I can cross it off my bucket list I will likely see them each individually instead.
I totally wish this one was performing extras. A bit of a sucker for the brown skinned girls w / Spanish accent. Oh well. If someone knows something I don't by all means send me a message.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/professional-massage-outcall-grkent/16817146[/URL]
[QUOTE=HarryHood;2199350]It sounds like everyone has a lot of wild, wide-ranging experiences at Mamma Dee's and East West, both owned by Mamasan Dee. I've had massage from Dee, Tiffany (no longer there) and another chick (can't remember name) who ain't there anymore. Honestly, none of my experiences were that good. It's not relaxing. I always feel like I can hear everything going on in the hallway--major mood killer. Or someone might hear me. It's cold. There's always too many chicks standing around, waiting for action, being a nuisance. It's overpriced. And sometimes, actually most times, YMMV. I've gone there and not had HE. I was like, WTF! Dee once gave me some crap about how, "we don't do that here. " Yeah, please. I've been here before lady, I told her. It sounds like some of you have had a good time. But I say it isn't worth it. That's just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I have been to E / W a few times. I have seen Mona (didn't specify on a stop in and got stuck with her), Nikki (FS was offered inside of 20 minutes) and Val when she was still there. I have always had a good time there and always gotten the happy ending. Last time I was there they had the shower going thank god. That is the only reason I don't go to Panacea. If they had a shower it would be a lock but I hate living with all that damn oil on me all day.
Good luck at E / W. If you are looking for someone to give you a ride then Nikki is your girl. Not the most attractive but not a 2-bagger either.
I saw Alma at E / W a while back but she's moved on. She was a real sweetheart and I'd like to find her again. Anyone have any idea where she may be now? Feel free to PM me.
I was to Healthy Habits a while ago and a good time was had (good massage followed by ending). I had a black gal and probably over-tipped. Anyway, has anyone had Kylene there? Her ad says not to ask her out for dinner. . . But dinner isn't what I had in mind. Let me know if anyone has any intel.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-for-everyone/16791256[/URL]
[QUOTE=FineByMe72;2202156]I was to Healthy Habits a while ago and a good time was had (good massage followed by ending). I had a black gal and probably over-tipped. Anyway, has anyone had Kylene there? Her ad says not to ask her out for dinner. . . But dinner isn't what I had in mind. Let me know if anyone has any intel.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-for-everyone/16791256[/URL][/QUOTE]Have had the pleasure there a few times. The black girl (Amber if I remember correctly), gave a nice ms, was somewhat quiet, and tried some upsell at the end; not bad, but I prefer to use my own judgement (60+30). I prefer Kylene, who has a real bubbly personality, and does lots of teasing (lacking with Amber). Always left with a good ending with both.
New Chinese Massage $50/ Hr 616-666-9385 (808 Bridge st / downtown).
I've had some of the best experiences with the Asian parlors (out of state as well as here), and some of the most disappointing (GR, on Breton St). I havn't read of any experiences about this new one on Bridge St. Appears legit, but it has my curiosity piqued. Has anyone tried this one yet, or am I going to have to TOFTT?
Have a few hours I am looking to fill tomorrow and thought I might stop into E / W. Never been there and just curious if there was a "better time" to go than others, and if there was anyone special to look for or stay away from. Been out of the game a while, but used to stop by LA and Hawiian when I was in the Lansing area now and then. Great forum, looking forward to reporting after my visit, and glad to have found a resource like this to share on. Thanks fellas.
[QUOTE=MagGreen;2205614]Have a few hours I am looking to fill tomorrow and thought I might stop into E / W. Never been there and just curious if there was a "better time" to go than others, and if there was anyone special to look for or stay away from. Been out of the game a while, but used to stop by LA and Hawiian when I was in the Lansing area now and then. Great forum, looking forward to reporting after my visit, and glad to have found a resource like this to share on. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]I was there earlier today hadn't been there in over a year booked an hour with Nikki was out of there in 35 min asked her about it she said she didn't realize it no apology, refund very rushed will not repeat, now I remember why I hadn't been back in a year.
[QUOTE=MrCruzer;2205570]New Chinese Massage $50/ Hr 616-666-9385 (808 Bridge st / downtown).
I've had some of the best experiences with the Asian parlors (out of state as well as here), and some of the most disappointing (GR, on Breton St). I havn't read of any experiences about this new one on Bridge St. Appears legit, but it has my curiosity piqued. Has anyone tried this one yet, or am I going to have to TOFTT?[/QUOTE]I went couple weeks ago good massage and nothing extra.
[QUOTE=MagGreen;2205614]Have a few hours I am looking to fill tomorrow and thought I might stop into E / W. Never been there and just curious if there was a "better time" to go than others, and if there was anyone special to look for or stay away from. Been out of the game a while, but used to stop by LA and Hawiian when I was in the Lansing area now and then. Great forum, looking forward to reporting after my visit, and glad to have found a resource like this to share on. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Was at e / w earlier today booked an hour with Nikki was very rushed out of there in 35 min asked her about it said she missed judge time will not repeat now I remember why I haven't been there in over a year.
Scam Alert. This very unattractive (and a ton heavier than her photos) scammer rubbed my back for 5 minutes and then said we were done. Avoid at all cost.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/light-touch-sens-massage-35/14267689[/URL]
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/healing-massage/15906491[/URL]
[QUOTE=HawkEye22;2206172]Scam Alert. This very unattractive (and a ton heavier than her photos) scammer rubbed my back for 5 minutes and then said we were done. Avoid at all cost.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/light-touch-sens-massage-35/14267689[/URL]
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/healing-massage/15906491[/URL][/QUOTE]I also had a one-and-done with her. Used to go by Juanita and Valerie for awhile. I did write her up here last year. Basically was overpriced, gave a hard up-sell, 45 minutes late, no enthusiasm, ok MS, average HE, is not the one in the pics.
[QUOTE=HawkEye22;2206172]Scam Alert. This very unattractive (and a ton heavier than her photos) scammer rubbed my back for 5 minutes and then said we were done. Avoid at all cost.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/light-touch-sens-massage-35/14267689[/URL]
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/healing-massage/15906491[/URL][/QUOTE]This is the only person who ever ripped me off in the hobby. Less than 5 minutes of back rub, got phone call, said son was coming over & I had to leave for 20 minutes. I asked for money back and she said she had already handed it off to someone. Would be able to give money tomorrow. When called 3 days later claimed she did not remember, but would give me a good deal (80+50 or so). The face pic in the TherapeuticMassage post is her. Not woman in light touch sens, but attractive enough if actually provided what she advertises. But was looking for a $50 tip which is way over priced for her looks. AVOID.
[QUOTE=MrCruzer;2206441]I also had a one-and-done with her. Used to go by Juanita and Valerie for awhile. I did write her up here last year. Basically was overpriced, gave a hard up-sell, 45 minutes late, no enthusiasm, ok MS, average HE, is not the one in the pics.[/QUOTE]Search her name spelled with a single N . I have multiple reviews of her on here. She cash and dashed me on my second appointment. The first appointment was fantastic! But she is a heavy addict. Stay away!