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Assa will be reserection, sorry reserected (no pun intended) in the Future. It is called "doing business as usual". Lets Get over it. How about some new posts on AMPs. What is new out there without being graphic. These ladies need out help with the coming holidays as such.
Calling the police names is accomplishing nothing.
W.O.F. is correct in that the average patrolman is not picked solely on his/her intellect. The day to day life of a patrolman is incredibly boring, can you imagine riding in a car 8 hrs. a day on the same streets,for 20 yrs.(especially at night) waiting for your pension.
They know these girls better than you do and many have very personal,sexual relationships with them and once in a while one of their own gets caught. But think of the percentages, how many BJ's have you gotten and never been caught? How many cops are doing Sw's and never been caught?
They are not stupid either, rather they are like construction workers, retail clerks, Publix workers etc. many are not particularly aware, ambitious, creative or politically adept. However 20% are picked because they have advanced intellects and abilities, they become the Detectives or advance in rank to lieutenants, captains and the real politicians as high as chief or Sheriff etc.
A small percentage are picked because they are borderline sociopaths with no criminal history, many of these advance to full sociopaths and psychopaths. Before you pick these labels apart, read the title of this post.
Gentleman, who do you think love's to be on swat teams and adore sniper training. What fun it must be to crash in and destroy property and maybe beat or kill somebody. In one case I personally know of, the undercover on the inside of the apartment has already opened the lock and they smashed the door anyway, arrested the couple inside( they were doing private sex shows and agreed to give the UC/officer a HJ at the end) and left the door wide open and left to jail them. What can they do complain and /or sue them? Why- they would just lie, say the door was locked and that would be the end of it.
Some of you argue about giving them information that contributes to the closing of the AMP'S. I think it's extremely humorous, do you know when they know there is illegal activity in an AMP? When the sign goes up!
It is no secret to Law Enforcement what goes on in an amp, they conned that eager reporter into showing this site on TV to intimidate and scare you. Nothing said on here can be used as evidence--nothing! Like in all these cases the states attorney will plead out the case and thats the end of it.
Publicity has been created, the TV channels are notified of the upcoming arrest's and everyone appears to be doing their stated Mission "To protect and Defend" the public.
Many of you don't know the history of MBI or what the old Orlando was like, with a Rub n' tug or a peep show with private booths on every corner. With black SW's pulling their tops down showing their ta-ta's in broad daylight on OBT and when it got "hot" they moved back a block to Nashville.
When you could go to Rooster's or "We knead you" in Caselberry directly behind club Juana and get your haircut in the front and get some other "trim" in the back. "The good old days."
Many attempts have been made to "clean up" this city and many other cities to no avail, the "Politzei" know full well the most they can do is attempt to control it.
Just when they thought they had killed all the services, intimidated the newspapers and telephone directories, "BOOM" along came the internet.
Nobody beats the law of supply and demand--nobody, in the history of humanity.
Lest some of you mongers think I'm blowing smoke up your ass, I'm including a link prepared by MBI itself for your edification.
I'm encouraging everyone to read the whole link below and to write write what you want, enjoy the prose and the info because anything you say does not mean a dam thing in the total scheme of things. They just BS the media that this site is helping them gather "evidence" and everyone here is scared and shook-up. I've been on this site over five years ,if thats true what took them so long. WHAT--they just found out about it--Scheisse, Merde, Mierda!!
If you read the whole link below think about this, MBI starts in 1978 it is now 2008, 30 years later and as we all know Prostitution, drugs, murder and all sorts of mayhem has all but been eliminated in Orlando and all the rest of Fl. LOL----VS [url]http://www.popcenter.org/library/awards/goldstein/1997/97-40.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.[/QUOTE]
I would have to do some digging, but I read a couple of studies that showed IQ's by various professions. Law enforcement was near the bottom of those considered professionals. One showed them below the average. It was similar to the studies where they show the most dangerous professions. LE is even in the top 10. I remember being amused that cab drivers we more intelligent on average as well as more dangerous.
We should probably move this dialogue to the "general" thread.
WOF
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush][url]http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html[/url]
[url]http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm[/url] (scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)[/QUOTE]
I was going to dig for the studies, but I think Clinton Bush hit the nail on the head with his links. Next time Leo pulls you over, be nice to them. It takes a lot of balls to be out there facing all of the criminal element with such a handicapped disadvantage of a lower IQ. No wonder they blunder so often. Poor fellas.
And can you blame them for targeting the poor defenseless AMP industry when the real criminals get away with real crimes. The real stuff is too dangerous for them. Poor fellas.
WOF
WOF
Are there any AMPs in the vicinity of the Orlando Sanford airport?
[QUOTE=Down1]Anyone know where I can get a soapy massage. Perferably not near the areas getting busted. If it is out of the city of orlando that is fine as well.[/QUOTE]
Down1,
I've mongered the AMPS from Sarasota to Daytona and I know of no place that offers a soapy massage. If there is they are flying waaaay under the radar.
If anyone does not know what this is -google "soapy massage" and see the very hot videos on the porn web site of the same name. You will ache for one too.
CB
I did not want to get into this exciting discussion. Simply, because I see you are both right. When you are Leo and spend tax money to build cases against adult entertainment industries and working women. That's stupid. It was stupid from the begining to incriminate prostitution. The oldest profession in the world will never die. However, laws should be to protect working women from abusive pimps and people who would force women to prostitute.
On the other hand, a police man/woman is a normal man/woman who happen to enforce these stupid laws. Some of them are stupid and some are smart. They have been trained which makes them above average in their field.
In brief, both sides are right.
The other hot subject of how much information should I write on the board? We recommend sharing as much information as you can. It should be your attitude to share. Reports that does not share info are not worth posting. Reports that share few to so much info are valuable to our hobby without the need to [b]force[/b] the member to release info. We would all be happy and thankful (at least me) to read those creative stories of how, why, where, when, how much, how many, how it looked, how it felt, what did you hear, was she vocal, was she loud, ... etc.
Yes some guys say do not be graphic if a girl does something with you does not mean she'll do the same for others. True but not totally true. Some girls (the majority of working girls should not be)/are not YMMV. A professional working girl tries to be unbiased and deliver a quality service for what she's paid for. Also, for best results men/women of the hobby should have common sense. We talked about some common sense points before; simply prepare as you prepare for date.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=713343&highlight=common+sense#post713343[/url]
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush][url]http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html[/url]
[url]http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm[/url]
(scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)[/QUOTE]
Those are interesting anecdotes, but not exactly "studies." Still, it does give the flavor of the point referenced earlier.
I hate to get involved in stuff like this, but what's the point of having a forum that you're not going to say anything on?
The point of the forum is for people to find out what they can get and where and for what price. Can police find out that same information? Yes, so maybe Jackson should close the forum down to protect the Providers and MPs?
Oh but wait, this site funnels lots of business to these different providers and MPs, so closing it would also be hurting the MPs and providers.
No solution as far as I can see, so this discussion is just going to around and around and around like laundry in a washing machine.
Checked out their as on CL the other day, and also had noticed their sign from driving by. Went in and was met by Jen, a young redhead with a nice upper half and big round bottom. Got the hour "combo" which was supposed to be 1/2 swedish and 1/2 deep tissue for 80. I was pretty disappointed with the result, as she was not very stong, or was just not into putting in a lot of effort. She seemed nice enough, but wasn't really working me that hard, and she knew I had asked for the deep tissue portion, on top of asking her to really work my arms a lot. There was no towell, and the flip was met with. Nothing! Overall, I think the 80 coould have been spent better elsewhere. I may return to try someone new, but certainly won't be asking for Jen again.
I have a buddy, I just found out that comes to this site and says anything, but the truth about some massage parlor gals. He says he gets mad when he waste his money.
[QUOTE=J Melbourne27]I hate to get involved in stuff like this, but what's the point of having a forum that you're not going to say anything on?
The point of the forum is for people to find out what they can get and where and for what price. Can police find out that same information? Yes, so maybe Jackson should close the forum down to protect the Providers and MPs?
Oh but wait, this site funnels lots of business to these different providers and MPs, so closing it would also be hurting the MPs and providers.
No solution as far as I can see, so this discussion is just going to around and around and around like laundry in a washing machine.[/QUOTE]
For those of you who were concerned about her website being down.
I noticed today that it is back up.
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Down1,
I've mongered the AMPS from Sarasota to Daytona and I know of no place that offers a soapy massage. If there is they are flying waaaay under the radar.
If anyone does not know what this is -google "soapy massage" and see the very hot videos on the porn web site of the same name. You will ache for one too.
CB[/QUOTE]I've traveled to New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and so on. Great thing is that not only is Prostitution legal, but you can get the soapy massage over there too, from Auckland to Sydney to Berlin. But not here!
Odd how in EVERY MODERN country this is legal, licensed, taxed, and so on, but here in wonderful O-Town USA. We have the MBI to make sure to keep us morally straight!
Overseas, the establishments are nice, clean, regulated, the girls get medical benefits, check-ups, etc. The government collect taxes. Here, our 'correctness' makes sure that our law enforcement is free to focus on the 'happy endings' instead of the bank robbers, drug dealers, etc. Isn't our country great! We have the MBI!
BTW, for in Cocoa, the old 'boardroom' used to offer the soapy massage. Till the "morale police" busted it too.
[QUOTE=Charlie Morris]BTW, in Cocoa, the old 'boardroom' used to offer the soapy massage. Till the "morale police" busted it too.[/QUOTE]The Boardroom,
So many great memories! My first real "Body Massage" was there. And I loved the concept of an actual "line-up". Your choice! Used to drive out of my way whenever I was going to or from Jax to O-Town. Almost always worth the trip.
On a lesser note, anyone remember Xanadu in Melbourne? Not so clean, and much lower quality than the Boardroom. But still good in a pinch;.
As far as the moral police. "MBI, JSO, HCSO", etc. , please get out there and fight some REAL crime! I live near Jax, and it is now the murder capital of Florida. But where are they concentrating their efforts? AMPs, CL, etc.
My 2 Won,
NMJ
I seen this girl. She was not my type. I like older gals. PLUS, you can tell she has fake tits, I hate that.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler]For those of you who were concerned about her website being down.
I noticed today that it is back up.[/QUOTE]
Beth gave me the worst massage I ever had. Her friend lyn told me she works from her home and only see a few people.
[QUOTE=Andrew Cz]Has anyone remained in contact with Beth, of "Body by Beth?"
She was the hottest therapist in Orlando.
I see online that she has renewed her license with the state, and I'm hoping to reconnect. She was magnificent!
Anybody out there still seeing her? If so, is she open for other former clients to get in touch?[/QUOTE]
I figured I would get rid of all the travel tension with a visit to one of the AMPs just north of O-town. Got the usual (outstanding) treatment (with out asking) from a very nice looking spinner type, left completely relaxed until I got home and read about the recent leo activity. I would give a little more info but I want to keep this one open.
[QUOTE=Taramarielmt]Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.[/QUOTE]You Go Girl! Slap us around and put us in our place.
Very well said Tara. I agree 100%.
A little Respect and consideration for our therapists and what they do can go a long way.
I know I have mentioned it before and I will do so again.
I know that many of us sometimes feel the need to brag and tell the world about our conquest, but detailed reports is what gets the therapist in hot water and draws unwanted LEO attention to the establishments.
I for one am in agreement with Tara "What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. "
I don't think it is a bad thing to share a good experiences about a location, but it is my opinion for those who feel the need to stroke their egos should share that the details and sensitive information via a PM when asked.
Just my 2 cents and advice on this issue. I for one may not post much about the good places I visit for this same reason but have shared the sensitive information with many via the PM.
Lets use the PM feature more and as a result hopefully there will be less complaints about Spa closures and busts in the future.
I am going 2 have 2 schedule a session with "Tara" since everyone is talking about her
Lets respect and treat our therapists right
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Stay Warm
DK
[QUOTE=Taramarielmt]Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Folks I think there's a big difference between an AMP and a good license MT, Tara just so happens to be one. When we keep pushing the envelope we end up loosing big time to the good therapist out there. Keep the reports going about the rest of the places after all that's where the fun really is isn't it? I've seen Tara multiple times and she's as clean and legit as it can be. Forget about LEO or anything we don't just need to respect her because of them but because she deserves it.
Be cool guys
[QUOTE=Taramarielmt]Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Got to love these women who come on here and tell it like it is. Thank you Tara Marie. Just added you to my must see list.
[QUOTE=Taramarielmt]First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.[/QUOTE]English is not my first language, so please don't concentrate yourself in my writing.
Me as a licensed therapist totally agree with this girl, you guys talk to much, I already know what services some of my former and actual co-workers do and I know that maybe tomorrow they will know about me, because you guys post here the name of the place, the name of the therapist how much they charge, hr how much the tip was for that extra that all you know is not legal to do and it can cost the LMT her license.
It will be easy for the LEO to go the place, he already knows the name, and request that specific therapist and play dumb once inside the room and maybe if he gets lucky, he will arrest the therapist right there.
Have you ever took two minutes to think what will happen to those therapist after they loss their license, " MAYBE IN YOUR DREAMS" she will have no job, and probably she will loss her husband and maybe because what she did was not right or moral she will have to fight for the custody of her kids, and for sure she will have no enough money (because she is not working), to paid for bills and maybe she can loss her car and her house and her credit and the consequences can go on and on.
And although it's true that everybody must be responsible for what they do there is not need to talk to much and to provide so much information about what a therapist do once in the room with you guys. So when a therapist don't do a left you happy at the end you get frustrated and mad and don't tip although the massage was good, but what do you expect, we have to take care of ourselves.
Sincerely I came to this site almost every day to see if my name is out there or I must said "out here", my place of work have been already mentioned here and I truly hope that nobody from this forum happen to be my client one day, I mean I don't want none of you at least none of those who talk SO MUCH.
Oh and I am not an Asian woman, but please those woman need a break, please be nice.
Tara Marie,
Class, Character & Good Looks!
Deep
Thanks for recent post. This forum does serve as a double edge sword. My name came up not too long ago and although I apperciate the good review I don't agree the specifics should not be divulge in the open forum.
[QUOTE=Not My Job]The Boardroom,
So many great memories! My first real "Body Massage" was there. And I loved the concept of an actual "line-up". Your choice! Used to drive out of my way whenever I was going to or from Jax to O-Town. Almost always worth the trip.
On a lesser note, anyone remember Xanadu in Melbourne? Not so clean, and much lower quality than the Boardroom. But still good in a pinch;.
As far as the moral police. "MBI, JSO, HCSO", etc. , please get out there and fight some REAL crime! I live near Jax, and it is now the murder capital of Florida. But where are they concentrating their efforts? AMPs, CL, etc.
My 2 Won,
NMJ[/QUOTE]
Wow, now those were the days. The Boardroom was nice, but Xanadu was easy. It had that grotto room with the heart-shaped hot tub for a 1.5 hour session. You could sometimes find the same girls because they'd move from one place to another. There were a couple of Roman Spas or Roman Forum places back then, too. Roosters was a relative late-comer there. They did more than their counterparts here in Orlando/Altamonte, but not the best women.
Damn, I miss those days when you could just walk in a joint and pick who you were going to fuck. None of this massage bullshit even presumed, just get a girl and drill her. More often than not, they gave as good as they got.
Sponge Worthy -- I pretty much have had enough of your total disregard for women. Some of us here respect women and actually care about them. We do not provide graphic information mostly because that is not what gentlemen do.
Your comment:
None of this massage bullshit even presumed, just get a girl and drill her.
Pretty much says it all.
You are another poster who needs to be ignored. I hope others will join me in doing just that. When you no longer have an audience, maybe you will take the hint and spew your venom somewhere else.
If LE could just send an officer in and he could get a happy ending and then just arrest the girl or the Mamma-san all the MP's and Amps would be closed in one day. The Govt. can't commit a crime and then arrest the co-conspirator, if the LE were to ask for it then he is soliciting. If she agrees then she is prostituting. I get a kick out of all the disclaimers the escorts put in their ad's, it is self delusional, if they say the wrong words at the wrong time all the disclaimers in the world won't help them.
In the old "We knead you" in Caselberry they used to have copies of the Florida Prostitution statute mounted on the wall. I won't tell you how they closed them because the S.C.S.D. might have forgotten the technique-LOL.---VS
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Too much eggnog? See nemodc's post. He got it right.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to get in a pissing contest with nemodc ,I perceive from his posts that he is a lawyer from Washington D.C. I presume. We had a difference of opinion a while back and he said(paraphrase) "that the police can entice you any way they want to". At that time I didn't respond to the post. I believe that the more serious the crime ,the higher burden of proof. Since much of the law is interpretation and determined by "community standards", prostitution in central Fl. at least is interpreted by this area's "States Attorney" enticement is not tolerated. You will never see a female undercover dressed in a sexy outfit working a trail sting--never. Or a male undercover LE buying a girl alcohol or cigarettes. So I'm just saying that we have differing opinions or interpretations, I suppose that is why we have appeals courts.
The laws are written differently for drugs, the court decisions are completely different. The felony statutes differ depending on the perceived menace to society as determined by the legislators and further defined and refined by various court decisions.
If I'm wrong ask yourself why all the MP's have been open for years, why doesn't LE just go in and when the masseuse touches his unit, just arrest her, after all he has already paid and paid masturbation is unlawful in Florida?
Ahh, but there is that small issue of complete nudity, you do not have to remove your under wear to get a fine massage now, do you? And if you do she does not have to manipulate your genitals, in fact that is unlawful. All this could be eliminated if we were not a conflicted and hypocritical society. But we are.
When an escort who offers her time for $250.00 an hour comes to the hotel why doesn't the cop just get undressed get in bed and when she joins him in bed just arrest her, after all there is obvious intent to commit a crime. Why go through all the word games, are the internet ad's in many cases not sufficient? I don't understand? Please explain it to me, is it freedom of speech?
Because the case law says he can't thats why? The case law is clear on this issue. In Sarasota the Sheriff tried to use ci's (Confidential informants) to hire an escort, have sexual contact with her and then testify, the judge ruled that in fact the CI while not a sworn officer was in fact in the employ of the Sheriffs office and as such represented the Sheriff's office and threw the case out.
We have hashed out the entrapment issue and entrapment is very hard to prove and we are talking about misdemeanor offenses here, a step above a traffic ticket in fact in some jurisdictions appearance tickets are issued for prostitution, it saves the "system" a lot of processing time and money, putting people in jail for this however temporary is ridiculous, in fact if the system is overloaded and you have no priors they will ROR you with no bail.
So where is the misinformation??
You guys can believe what you want to believe, I only know what has worked for me, my understanding from many conversations with CDA's over the years and living in many states. I also know there are lots of shades of grey in law, thus the various interpretations, if there was not the human need to manipulate and create, the 10 commandments would work just fine. Wouldn't they?
Except that conservatives believe in the old testament "An eye for an eye" and liberals believe in viewing things from the perspective of forgiveness and love and everyone in the middle jumps on some part of the train along the way depending on how their brain is wired.
I apologize to the board for jumping around and going off topic some but I'm a little perplexed, if it's so easy to eliminate vice,why is it still here? I'll answer my own question.Why.? Because it isn't easy, and the government knows that attempts to govern human behavior thru social engineering doesn't work as proven by Prohibition (Alcohol if invented now would be a class 2 controlled substance). Soooo they just try to keep it down to a dull roar,allow some pressure release for the masses and attempt to keep it from getting out of control.
If the legislators wanted to eliminate it they could make it a class 1 felony with mandatory inclusion on a sex offenders list. I doubt that there would be many lobbyist's being paid to fight it and the Christian right would be applauding. If they did there would be some famous names on the list and lots of judges and lawyers without a license.
If there is a lot of disagreement with this post please state your opinions, personally I want to hear them--Thanks, VS
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]So now we're responsible for HER decisions and the impact they have upon her career, marriage and debtors? Sorry, but I don't buy that at all. If you're concerned about the consequences of providing an illegal service, here's a thought: DON'T DO THE CRIME!
Accept some responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to blame us for wanting what we want. That's how you keep you license, your job, your husband, and ensure you can pay your bills.
Sorry, but you're wrong. When a therapist pretends to give me a blowjob when she's really just jerking me off, I think it's something that we need to share. If you can be duplicitous, why can't we be honest? [Note: Asahi still plays this trick, but you have to be really dumb to fall for it when her head is bobbing three feet above your waistline.][/QUOTE]I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.
[QUOTE=Curiosa]I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.[/QUOTE]An amazing array of different opinions. You know what, I think everyone has said something that makes sense but not anyone has said something that makes perfect sense. At the end of the day though, it's all opinions.
Personally, I very much enjoy a real massage but I also enjoy anything else that is on offer. I never push the point and am never rude or intimidating. My personal masseuse used to work in a MP and she has told me some of the conversations men have had with her. It's disgusting and makes me ashamed to be a man. I hope that most of the guys on here (there's not exactly thousands that post) do respect the girls but will take any extra services that are on offer with gratitude and will suitably reward the provider as they see fit. Where a LMT has made it absolutely clear what they are offering, then we as men should not push that point and go elsewhere if we want something different.
I have found what I consider to be good services and have reported them here as I thought that was the point of the forum. The posts were to help other guys make a decision as to whether it was the kind of establishment they wanted to go to.
I have been to places where all they want to do is the HJ and nothing else. That's NOT a good massage to my mind.
My therapist friend who I have now known for some years does everything for me in my home (so it's not illegal) and she does that because I was kind and considerate to her in her MP days.
I'm not really sure that by detailing our experiences that we are helping LEO. They can walk into these places just like us and get the lowdown.
If anyone commits a crime they know to be a crime, it's their risk, they know the rules. As long as they are not forced into it. It's their risk. Everytime you exceed the speed limit you risk a ticket. That's your risk, you know the rules.
[QUOTE=Curiosa]I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.[/QUOTE]Well said my lady. Sorry that this board has come to this. I have said before, Ladies and Gentleman, it is time to act like adults and begin addressing the topics at hand and stop lambasting each other. Let us move on and stop all this bickering and accusing. The ladies of this profession deserve all the respect we can give them. I have seen some customers who in my estimation are not of the same class as the ladies that service them and I have also seen the opposite. Everyone is here to enjoy life and make a satisfactor living. The members who are consistently irate and spread hate, should get a life and enjoy what is left of it. When you are no longer with us, you will wish you could have that lady one more time.
Gentleman where are you?
You gotta love this forum and the excellent work Jackson does. Unlike the big doggie, the princess nework which are made up of advertisers, pimps and queens. When a man says a thing against a woman all the forum stands against him. How dare you and who in the hell disagrees with a woman. Women can say and do what they want and men have to submit. Guess what, this is not the big puppy, and if you are such a pussy queen this is not your place. See how the other forums turned into nothing. Love and respect women but do not worship their pussies. Next time hand them the money and leave. How dare you ask for service from a working woman.
Women are offering services. The difference between crack cocain and a hoe's crack. The first you use it once and the second she just wipes it off (that's if she does) and use it again. It is not like they are offering a product that has materials or gold in it and you can't lower the price than the price of gold. Unless some think they have gold. Well let me tell you; I have not found one natural pussy/ass made up of gold and if there is one I won't use it.
Stop worshiping pussies. They won't even respect you.
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Do any of you PM lovers really know whether a person here IS or IS NOT a LEO?
I laugh in the face of you asswipes who think you are SMARTER than LEO and then claim you're going to fool them by limiting your posts to Private Messages. My God, how dumb can a person get?[/QUOTE]
First of all, there are a number of mongers on the Forum who I KNOW are not LEO. We have exchanged information for quite a while and have referred each other to various providers. Smarter than Leo you say? I'm thinking that really isn't much of a challenge.
Second, I'm getting bored with Sponge (and only Sponge) working very hard to continue this conversation into perpituity. Doesn't seem to want to let it go. Not sure what his motivation is, but it's getting old for me especially since I am now an "asswipe" in his opinion. I don't lower myself to that level by calling names to brothers on the Forum and always repsect other opinions even if I don't agree with them. He can continue his rantings on his fragile little soap box and continue to demonstrate how protesting too much may actually reveal other motivations.
Be safe!
WOF
I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821[/url]
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
Ron
[QUOTE=Ron News]I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821[/url]
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
Ron[/QUOTE]G100 did post about some massages that were not legit. I guess peeps can look back to confirm that.
Having read all this stuff my two cents is that posters should continue as we were. It's not going to make any difference if we post an indication of the type of massage we received on here or not.
If this board was closed down there are others. If they were all closed down, others would just open. Why don't we just carry on as we were but maybe not giving graphic detail about what went on?
If LEO want to check a place they can and will do anyway, irrespective of what is said on this board but, for the sake of the girls (and some kind of human decency) maybe we don't need to describe the experience in minutest detail.
Just my two cents and as this debate seems to have been going on for a while with a distinct lack of new reports, I for one do not feel the need to comment any more in the foreseeable future.
Some new reports would be good though and as I am not in Florida until next April I'm afraid they will not come from me!
Was out doing some late shopping a few days ago and I passed by OHT (place in Casselberry on 436 across from Dunkin) and noticed they were still open. I thought what they heck and went in.
It was getting close to closing time so I agreed to half hour for. 5. I'd been her a couple times before and both times I got the older lady that works there and been taken care of but this time I suprisingly got the young hotty.
She gave me a good firm massage and we chatted along the way. She was saying how it had been a long time since she had seen me. It took me a while to put it together but she use to work at Tokyo Spa in Longwood. She recognized me but I didn't recognize her, who would have thought it!
Any after some good work on my back I was really enjoying myself after the flip. My hands had green light to go whereever they wanted. Was enjoying the HJ when all of sudden she added a prostate massage. Now this is not my thing and I didn't ask for it but must admit that the combination of hf and prostate massage made them pop nearly instantaneously.
Tipped. 3
Good time will repeat and recommend to others.
[QUOTE=Ron News]I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821[/url]
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
Ron[/QUOTE]
Conspiracy theories are everywhere: Who shot JFK? Area 51.
I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories. I report on my experiences. I have not posted recently about my visit to ToA last weekend, but it was the same, quality experience.
In my experience, posting details of a wonderful experience does more harm than good: what I get may not be what you get. It leads to an expectation that may not be fulfilled.
I do not post details anymore (in my earlier posts, like Lotus/Deva, I went into detail - I no longer go there because the service is not what I used to get). I report that I enjoyed an experience. Your skills at getting what you want will determine what you get from a lady: not what other hobbyists report.
But let me check to make sure that I am real --- yep, the package is there.
Let's get back to the purpose of the forum: exchange of information about MPs and getting pleasant extras.
Be safe
I have been attending various spa's in the Orlando area for a little over a year now still looking for the the one that I will make my regular place.
I saw an ad on CL for La Cabana and I must say the ads of the girls will really draw you in.
Their prices are a little high $.1 for an hr which they advertise as their "holiday rate" which I am hoping does not go up in Jan. I met one of the girls in the ad's her name was nikki and she was as cute in person as she was in the picture.
You have a choice of a massage on the bed or the table...I chose the bed and she started the massage. She gave a good massage 7/10 and had a great conversation which I enjoy during my sessions.
Had an exciting flip where I dreamed that she got nude and ended the massage on a happy note. I woke up shortly after and tipped her $.3
I def plan on attending again as the rest of the therapist look amazing.
They say they offer the body scrubs in the shower I have not experienced that yet but I plan to when I return.
My friend suggested this site to me as a way to gauge the amps around my area, I also travel a lot so its good to check out the city I am heading to.
I recently TOFTT and went down there, since no one seemed to want to take the plunge. All I can tell you is that the massage sucked, but there were some things worth noting about the visit. I met with Ashley, who is very pierced and very hot. Great body on this one. She gave the massage in tight stretch pants and a tube top. The massage involved oils which were VERY scented, and she did not use any real pressure. As I stated earlier, the massage portion was horsey doo doo. However, unlike the previous poster, this placed seemed open for extras from the moment I walked through the door.
The flip involved some real fun, and if you have spoken to me before, I welcome your PM's. I left happy, for a good price, and at the end of the day, I now know what to expect in the future from the place. That said, I would not go back for the massage, and there are at least 5 places off the top of my head that are better. Classic example of a place that is not better than the massage competition, and for the money, you could get a lot more from a CL girl. Just my $. 02. PM me for more details if you would like.
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Greetings everyone,
I recently received the following email from "kittykitty2802@hotmail.com" regarding the above report.
[quote]please remove this, i was informed of this post by another customer. this is not that kind of place, this customer was simply angry that i turned him down when he propositioned me. we are not that type of place and are not permitted to do those sort of things. if management sees this, i will lose my job. please remove asap![/quote]Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
IMHO, I think that Assa was raided because of its location: Tourist Central. Since we are a family tourist destination, MBI & Co. did not want that type of business near all of those quality locations:
1. Bill Wongs Barfeteria
2. Brazilian Electronics Ripoff Store
3. Etc.
Be safe.
I love the way Tara Marie says she's not here to judge anyone, and then proceeds to judge me. I never said a word about her. I never tried to connect with her. In addition to this, she sent me a profanity laced (and frequently misspelled) PM telling me much the same as she posted here.
That pretty much sums up the type of "lady" some of you are here to defend.