Nuru Shops and Independents

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;6582084]My take on Krystal's spot is it seems cool if someone you really want to see is working. Given I heard they already got license checked like haven did I personally won't be going there (or to haven).[/QUOTE]She looks pretty hot.

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;6582957]Lavies Cypress popped up and is new. Blue from Newport is there sometimes.[/QUOTE]You've got VT (ig: AmeliaJohnson_21) and sister spa Bliss (ig: relax_chillvibes) in Westminster. Garden Grove (IG: relaxtime_fun). Sunshine Spa (IG Bodyrubs. 6868) in SA on Bristol. Orange (IG: Mimosa_2326) on Chapman by 57. That has changed hands a few times and is place where SA and Newport nuru girls mostly went. Brea (IG: brea_spa_1221). Let me know if there's others I'm missing.

I'd say I agree with the below. For me, krystal's place is like the old Honey, even if you don't book a specific girl you like, you know all the girls give good massages since they are all licensed and you know they all look good, no grannies or ugly girls.

I can afford the premium, so I'd rather pay extra for the peace of mind.

[QUOTE=OCanon;6581200]My 2 cents is I like the place and worth the premium. Appointment only and they keep it discreet. Krystal is forcing everyone to have a license (most CMT) since they have already been ticketed (not an issue for guys but they are on watch Tue and Wed for license compliance review. So you pay a premium as Krystal is hand selecting decent to good looking young girls (or noted as MILF) to give Nuru and happen to give a 1/2 decent massage. You can see reviews on all the girls and get a sense of what your buying. I've had to have a lot of bad nuru experiences to hone in the good ones.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DanCramerOc;6582422]Yeah, decent writeup and gave her a 6 on looks, which to me is fair for her as I just am not physically attracted to her. She emails me arguing this and then says she EXPECTS her customers to tell her first before a review. Read below my response, which set her off.[/QUOTE]God bless. Reviews are obviously useless if they aren't honest. Only writing positive reviews only benefits you (getting freebies like some folks are apparently getting) and your provider, no one else. Honest reviews force providers to be better or stop working. Of course they won't like that.

I'm not any better, so major props to you.

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6583264]I'd say I agree with the below. For me, krystal's place is like the old Honey, even if you don't book a specific girl you like, you know all the girls give good massages since they are all licensed and you know they all look good, no grannies or ugly girls.

I can afford the premium, so I'd rather pay extra for the peace of mind.[/QUOTE]I would agree that yes there is some level of piece of mind when booking here. You will not get the low end service of many typical AMPs or the half ass service from some of the nuru providers out there.

The thing with all the girls intending or highly encouraged to get licensed is whatevers to me. When mentioned below I took it more as Krystal is trying to make this place as legit as possible (though that will never be true for a nuru spot) or that if a provider gets into trouble she can just claim she had no idea what is happening in the rooms and have a better argument that its the provider's problem (since they're licensed) unknown to her.

Also if all the providers are CMT seems like another reason to bump up the fees. One thing for sure is that Krystal is a good business person ha.

Anyways have a good long week all.

[QUOTE=McNutties;6583288]...... or that if a provider gets into trouble she can just claim she had no idea what is happening in the rooms and have a better argument that its the provider's problem (since they're licensed) unknown to her.[/QUOTE]Not sure that would work in practice, I would think the owner would be on the hook for anything that happens within their shop, known, or unnkown.

Any business is ultimately going to be liable for the conduct of their employees, I'm pretty sure that's a universal.

I'd be interested on Grimmey's take on that. He'd know.

I just want to point out that numerous girls told me that dan demanded free massages in exchange for not posting bad reviews, Krystal told him to f-off so he posts bad reviews for her when he can.

Anyone who has had a Krystal massage knows her massage skills are top-notch. I've had many great massages in my life, and hers is the best I've had. Who cares how long her legs are, this is just petty and mean. WTF dude.

Not sure why he's posting that this is a FS place, its really not. I'm guessing he just wants to draw LE attention to her.

[QUOTE=DanCramerOc;6581488]Nice write up but I do disagree with Krystal on CMT skills, while on par with many other providers the fact is over the past few years since covid so many great providers used the Biden school debt relief as a reason to get there CMT license, and they have.

Saying you see Krystal for CMT is like saying you go to Del Taco for the Burrito, no you go for the hot sauce in the packet and the Burrito is just the vehicle. Her CMT skills is an excuse we use to get the happy ending. Which is mediocre at best, and her no's are bigger than her yes's. Aside from that she is aging out and her body is below par for the talent out there. But, if you like a girl with short legs and a very long torso then she is your gal.

I've been to ROM several times, actually almost weekly. I see several providers there under many names and yes it is nice, the beds are wide and comfortable. But I do not like that she took so many girls from Haven as they were getting raided and every one of them has full service on the menu.

The issue I have with ROM is that that the number of rooms are limited and the girls are plentiful, she does prioritize her friends that do full service over anyone else. ROM is a great over priced Asian Full Service shop.

Check out their daily lineup on IG: the_rub_of_oc

BTW, the below is a direct text from one of her full service ladies for basic nuru, no extras.

170 for 30 min- (including door fee 45).
220 for 45 min- (including door fee 55).
270 for 60 min- (including door fee 65).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Taws6;6583320]Not sure that would work in practice, I would think the owner would be on the hook for anything that happens within their shop, known, or unnkown.

Any business is ultimately going to be liable for the conduct of their employees, I'm pretty sure that's a universal.

I'd be interested on Grimmey's take on that. He'd know.[/QUOTE]Simple, unless they catch you in the room fucking or the girl has a dick in her hand, a "raid" of a MP is usually checking for licenses. If everyone is licensed, no one gets a ticket or arrested. Requiring all the girls to get licensed gives LE no reason to come back after a license check.

From talking to a vice cop once, it's very hard to bust the owner or manager of a MP unless they spot girls living in the spa or someone is underage and then they go with trafficking. License or not, the worst that happens is one girl gets arrested if she's caught with a dick in her pussy.

I think its smart and from the 4-5 massages I had at Kristals new place, everyone licensed means I got a few really good massages.

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6583373]I just want to point out that numerous girls told me that dan demanded free massages in exchange for not posting bad reviews, Krystal told him to f-off so he posts bad reviews for her when he can.

Anyone who has had a Krystal massage knows her massage skills are top-notch. I've had many great massages in my life, and hers is the best I've had. Who cares how long her legs are, this is just petty and mean. WTF dude.

Not sure why he's posting that this is a FS place, its really not. I'm guessing he just wants to draw LE attention to her.[/QUOTE]Seriously, LOL. I have never asked or demanded from any provider a free massage or a reduced cost massage, period. If you actually look at my review (which you clearly did not) you will see I said the massage was great. So what are you talking about Krystal?

We all know Lily, Min and Shai are at ROM with you. And yes, we all know they are full service girls. Maybe they just retired from that and are straight massage therapists now.

You know, just to show everyone that you are completely fake and false since you really are Krystal, here is my review of her. You know the one you said was a bad review. LOL.

[QUOTE]I'm always impressed and excited when my hopes turn into a reality, Luna was just that. I was in need of a super chill, great vibing provider and she delivered. Aside from a smoking hot body, she is beautiful as well. Her massage was legit with just the right pressure and some minor teasing. She asked to flip early and it was then I did see the perfect set of natural small Cs. She lubes up junior and does a simulated CG that had me at the edge. It was a few minutes until I was done. I generally feel she loves what she does and is continually improving in her craft.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DanCramerOc;6583501]Seriously, LOL. I have never asked or demanded from any provider a free massage or a reduced cost massage, period. If you actually look at my review (which you clearly did not) you will see I said the massage was great. So what are you talking about Krystal?

We all know Lily, Min and Shai are at ROM with you. And yes, we all know they are full service girls. Maybe they just retired from that and are straight massage therapists now.

You know, just to show everyone that you are completely fake and false since you really are Krystal, here is my review of her. You know the one you said was a bad review. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have 580 posts going back 10+ years, and your theory is that I've done all that so I can post 3-4 times in support of Krystal?

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6583522]I have 580 posts going back 10+ years, and your theory is that I've done all that so I can post 3-4 times in support of Krystal?[/QUOTE]That's some dedication man lmao.

[QUOTE=SoXal;6583586]That's some dedication man lmao.[/QUOTE]We can all agree that Krystal does give great massages (when compared to the rest of the nuru girls) but she has a butter face. There is beef between Krystal and haven spa mms, Kathy.

Everyone has their preferences but if you think there is no FS provided at Krystal's spa, you must be delusional. For the right price anything is possible. Anywho quick review on Nature Spa.

Saw Soomi last week, definitely one of the more attractive girls in the industry. Nice fake C tits and a BBL. Lots of DFK and GFE for sure. Massage was non existent, not surprised. On the flip she sucked jr like no tomorrow. Lots of tongue and BLS. Next moved to mish and then had her move over to the chair. My God was that the best experience ever. I was sitting on the chair while cradling her hips and she went up and down. Blew a big load. Cleaned me up and took my 150 donation.

Jake,

I didn't say there was no FS there, but it's not a FS place like a typical Korean FS joint where the table is against the wall and there's no massage. I'd guess some girls do and some don't. I had a few tell me they did, but not in the shop. At least one I do plan to follow up with.

As for Kathy, she's a fucking ***** and all the girls hate her, which is why so many jumped ship. She's awful at running a business and treats the girls like shit.

[QUOTE=JakeForTheWin;6583618]We can all agree that Krystal does give great massages (when compared to the rest of the nuru girls) but she has a butter face. There is beef between Krystal and haven spa mms, Kathy.

Everyone has their preferences but if you think there is no FS provided at Krystal's spa, you must be delusional. For the right price anything is possible. Anywho quick review on Nature Spa.

Saw Soomi last week, definitely one of the more attractive girls in the industry. Nice fake C tits and a BBL. Lots of DFK and GFE for sure. Massage was non existent, not surprised. On the flip she sucked jr like no tomorrow. Lots of tongue and BLS. Next moved to mish and then had her move over to the chair. My God was that the best experience ever. I was sitting on the chair while cradling her hips and she went up and down. Blew a big load. Cleaned me up and took my 150 donation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6583121]She looks pretty hot.[/QUOTE]Just wait until you see her face.

[QUOTE=DanCramerOc;6581488]Nice write up but I do disagree with Krystal on CMT skills, while on par with many other providers the fact is over the past few years since covid so many great providers used the Biden school debt relief as a reason to get there CMT license, and they have.

Saying you see Krystal for CMT is like saying you go to Del Taco for the Burrito, no you go for the hot sauce in the packet and the Burrito is just the vehicle. Her CMT skills is an excuse we use to get the happy ending. Which is mediocre at best, and her no's are bigger than her yes's. Aside from that she is aging out and her body is below par for the talent out there. But, if you like a girl with short legs and a very long torso then she is your gal.

I've been to ROM several times, actually almost weekly. I see several providers there under many names and yes it is nice, the beds are wide and comfortable. But I do not like that she took so many girls from Haven as they were getting raided and every one of them has full service on the menu.

The issue I have with ROM is that that the number of rooms are limited and the girls are plentiful, she does prioritize her friends that do full service over anyone else. ROM is a great over priced Asian Full Service shop.

Check out their daily lineup on IG: the_rub_of_oc

BTW, the below is a direct text from one of her full service ladies for basic nuru, no extras.

170 for 30 min- (including door fee 45).
220 for 45 min- (including door fee 55).
270 for 60 min- (including door fee 65).[/QUOTE]Feel free to disagree all you want. From my experience of getting massages from both legit and less than legit shops, the massage Krystal provides, while not the best, is still very good overall IMO.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to disparage Krystal for what happened with the raids. Isn't natural for the girls to start seeking new places to work and most would gravitate to a nice place given the alternatives? In addition, poaching talent from competitors, especially when they're down, isn't new in this or any other industry.

I have consistently expressed in my posts that I will pay good money for massages as I see it as one of my preferred avenue for self-care. HE are just extras for me at that point.

I only dabble in AMPs as it's only a diversion for me when I want something different. However, with what Krystal and her girls are charging, she's capitalizing on her warped idea of what nuru is and preying on a monger's ignorance of the market segment and what other options are out there. Adding anywhere from $10-$50 of the hour rate and you can be enjoying better security and service with kgirls. Or go on HX for another $30 for other ethnicities. As I've said in past posts, she's pushing up on price points where the grass is really greener on the other side.