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Stopped by the other day and this place has closed up shop, at least at this location. Went in the side door and was able to walk right in, but place is completely cleared out. Was a regular there before COVID, hadn't been there since about August. The girl I always saw went by Lilly (not the same Lilly as is referred to in other posts on other MP's). Anyone have intel on why they closed or where Lilly went? Thanks in advance, stay safe out there fellas. PM's preferred.
[QUOTE=BlupurpSky;5661136]Went to Sunshine Acupressure in Troy for an hour massage. I was taken to a room with a door and told to undress. The massage started normally with little to no teasing, so I didn't think anything would happen. She noticed I was hard and started rubbing on me more sensually while I stayed on my stomach. She asked me to turn over and gave me one of the best HJ I ever received. Only OTC touching available. Got cleaned up and went to pay. She never asked for tip. Gave $20 tip on top of $70 door fee.[/QUOTE]Man. You're setting yourself up to get an old hag next time and no handy. That is cheap.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5662132]Man. You're setting yourself up to get an old hag next time and no handy. That is cheap.[/QUOTE]Agree. Standard for a HE is 40. Especially if it was at least a decent massage and she gets you to blow. Just because they don't ask / demand / expect doesn't mean they don't want. In fact, I appreciate those who actually appreciate and never ask for more tip and will generally give them more. Something about them acting like it's not just about the money that they actually want to make you feel good. Let's reward that attitude.
[QUOTE=BlupurpSky;5661136]Went to Sunshine Acupressure in Troy for an hour massage. I was taken to a room with a door and told to undress. The massage started normally with little to no teasing, so I didn't think anything would happen. She noticed I was hard and started rubbing on me more sensually while I stayed on my stomach. She asked me to turn over and gave me one of the best HJ I ever received. Only OTC touching available. Got cleaned up and went to pay. She never asked for tip. Gave $20 tip on top of $70 door fee.[/QUOTE]I strongly second the motion of a $20.00 tip being "way too cheep" !! Even if a tip was not asked for, so be advised, " they all expect a reasonable tip " !!
Especially since you paid a door fee of $70.00 which was likely for an hour massage, bc typically a $40.00 tip is the norm for a $50.00 house fee "half hour" massage!
She will for sure remember you, & not in a very good way, so don't expect same from her should you see her again, & if so, you'll for sure be leaving with blue balls?
These girls live for decent tips, they typically earn about 40-50% of the house fee + their tips, & they usually send most of their $ over seas to help support their family?
You need to dig deeper & be reasonable, as these girls are only here to service us, so we need to show reasonable appreciation for good services!!
[QUOTE=MrRegular;5662266]I strongly second the motion of a $20.00 tip being "way too cheep" !! Even if a tip was not asked for, so be advised, " they all expect a reasonable tip " !!
Especially since you paid a door fee of $70.00 which was likely for an hour massage, bc typically a $40.00 tip is the norm for a $50.00 house fee "half hour" massage!
She will for sure remember you, & not in a very good way, so don't expect same from her should you see her again, & if so, you'll for sure be leaving with blue balls?
These girls live for decent tips, they typically earn about 40-50% of the house fee + their tips, & they usually send most of their $ over seas to help support their family?
You need to dig deeper & be reasonable, as these girls are only here to service us, so we need to show reasonable appreciation for good services!![/QUOTE]You tip what you want, and let others tip what they want.
[QUOTE=MrRegular;5662266]I strongly second the motion of a $20.00 tip being "way too cheep" !! Even if a tip was not asked for, so be advised, " they all expect a reasonable tip " !!
Especially since you paid a door fee of $70.00 which was likely for an hour massage, bc typically a $40.00 tip is the norm for a $50.00 house fee "half hour" massage!
She will for sure remember you, & not in a very good way, so don't expect same from her should you see her again, & if so, you'll for sure be leaving with blue balls?
These girls live for decent tips, they typically earn about 40-50% of the house fee + their tips, & they usually send most of their $ over seas to help support their family?
You need to dig deeper & be reasonable, as these girls are only here to service us, so we need to show reasonable appreciation for good services!![/QUOTE]It seems like $40 has bee the going tip for a long time especially when a HJ is provided. I have been watching for it to increase not decrease. I am like Mr. Regular, if the massage is good I tip well because I want to be a favorite of theirs.
[QUOTE=Samperkins420;5658110]Back in the day like 10+ yards ago they had some quality providers and attractive women. Last time I went was a few years back and they only had an lady, probably at least 60.
I've called a few times and it's always an old sounding woman that answers the phone, and when I ask how many girls are working she always says Just one.
Called again just now, same question, same answer. I followed up with Is the one just you and she said Yes.
Is that right there's only one old woman there now? I'm not going down if that's the case, but if she's just being coy and there are more (and younger ones) I'll go. Anyone been there lately like this year?[/QUOTE]I've stopped in twice this year and walked out each time. Both times there was only a late 50's or 60's and 80-90 lb skeleton of a women there. I love small spinners, but (besides the age) she was unhealthy skinny.
Stay safe out there!
[QUOTE=MrRegular;5662266]I strongly second the motion of a $20.00 tip being "way too cheep" !! Even if a tip was not asked for, so be advised, " they all expect a reasonable tip " !!
Especially since you paid a door fee of $70.00 which was likely for an hour massage, bc typically a $40.00 tip is the norm for a $50.00 house fee "half hour" massage!
She will for sure remember you, & not in a very good way, so don't expect same from her should you see her again, & if so, you'll for sure be leaving with blue balls?
These girls live for decent tips, they typically earn about 40-50% of the house fee + their tips, & they usually send most of their $ over seas to help support their family?
You need to dig deeper & be reasonable, as these girls are only here to service us, so we need to show reasonable appreciation for good services!![/QUOTE]Tip whatever you feel is reasonable, I only do FS AMPs so I pay high $$ but if someone wanted to tip $20 then they should, doesn't matter what someone else does imo.
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Saw this one a while back, just went for massage and BJ, 100 bucks about 40 min worth. It was just so so but damn she looked good so I went back 2 weeks later. Arrived at house and she grabbed jr and led me in. We had discussed what I wanted on phone before hand. Lay on her bed face up and she teased me.
For a little while then cuddled up to me just like a gf. Put the condom on and gave me oral till I had enough so climbed on me till I shot my wad. Her pictures in the ad are her, her house is in waterford, not pontiac. A little hard to find in the dark the 1st time. I suggest backing into her drive.
As it will make it easier to pull out. Price for me was 120 for half hour and to me it was worth it.
[QUOTE=Dante313;5662754]Tip whatever you feel is reasonable, I only do FS AMPs so I pay high $$ but if someone wanted to tip $20 then they should, doesn't matter what someone else does imo.[/QUOTE]Our input was meant to be helpful. Unless your objective is let him fall flat on his face, I think the tip whatever you want is not sound advice. I have no problem trying to promote a a steady stream of good hobbyists to keep the good providers stay in the game. I think it's in all of our best interest to establish guidelines of the game and play within the lines. Too high and too low tips has a negative impact on all of us.
Being a regular, staying with the same girl, schedule so you know she is available and tipping well. You are right, it has gone up from 40. In my world.
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;5662463]It seems like $40 has bee the going tip for a long time especially when a HJ is provided. I have been watching for it to increase not decrease. I am like Mr. Regular, if the massage is good I tip well because I want to be a favorite of theirs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5663458]Our input was meant to be helpful. Unless your objective is let him fall flat on his face, I think the tip whatever you want is not sound advice. I have no problem trying to promote a a steady stream of good hobbyists to keep the good providers stay in the game. I think it's in all of our best interest to establish guidelines of the game and play within the lines. Too high and too low tips has a negative impact on all of us.[/QUOTE]The $20 tippers will be remembered as cheap bastards by the masseuse and the mamasan. They think a $20 HJ is a bargain. It may well be, but it won't be again next time. So when she jackhammers one out in 15 min. And says massage over, he might figure it out. Or not.
[QUOTE=BlupurpSky;5661136]Went to Sunshine Acupressure in Troy for an hour massage. I was taken to a room with a door and told to undress. The massage started normally with little to no teasing, so I didn't think anything would happen. She noticed I was hard and started rubbing on me more sensually while I stayed on my stomach. She asked me to turn over and gave me one of the best HJ I ever received. Only OTC touching available. Got cleaned up and went to pay. She never asked for tip. Gave $20 tip on top of $70 door fee.[/QUOTE]Troy, all the massage are legit and have to stay covered, should say Lucky you!
Does anyone have Jenn's number at PT as opposed to the main areas phone number? I had to quickly dispose of the business card she gave me that had it.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5663458]Our input was meant to be helpful. Unless your objective is let him fall flat on his face, I think the tip whatever you want is not sound advice. I have no problem trying to promote a a steady stream of good hobbyists to keep the good providers stay in the game. I think it's in all of our best interest to establish guidelines of the game and play within the lines. Too high and too low tips has a negative impact on all of us.[/QUOTE]Sorry, still only tipping $20.
[QUOTE=EcomCat;5664187]Troy, all the massage are legit and have to stay covered, should say Lucky you![/QUOTE]I go here regularly. The M-F girl gives great massage and plays incredibly teasingly while on stomach. $40 min tip for her service.
[QUOTE=BlupurpSky;5661136]Went to Sunshine Acupressure in Troy for an hour massage. I was taken to a room with a door and told to undress. The massage started normally with little to no teasing, so I didn't think anything would happen. She noticed I was hard and started rubbing on me more sensually while I stayed on my stomach. She asked me to turn over and gave me one of the best HJ I ever received. Only OTC touching available. Got cleaned up and went to pay. She never asked for tip. Gave $20 tip on top of $70 door fee.[/QUOTE]You cannot get this service at any spa in Troy. There was once 13 spas open in Troy, there is now only 3. Sunshine provides a great massage and that is it. The girls here have figured out that the only way to keep a spa open in Troy is to do eveything legal and that's what they do here. This review is not legit.
It's been reported these two wonderful places were closed involuntarily. We are told of a sign on the front door.
What exactly does it say?
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5664614]It's been reported these two wonderful places were closed involuntarily. We are told of a sign on the front door.
What exactly does it say?[/QUOTE]Something similar to "Closed by order of Fire Marshall".
It's not a clear indication of "something was illegally happening", but locked doors, not up to code building or similar as a reason for not allowing the business to stay open.
Something like my attached photo, at least the Alice one was.
[QUOTE=Riker36;5664364]Sorry, still only tipping $20.[/QUOTE]I know Jews that aren't that stingy.
[QUOTE=Riker36;5664364]Sorry, still only tipping $20.[/QUOTE]What their honest response is. If they smile and give you a hug and say see you next time then wow, great, you found yourself a cheap keeper. But if she seems disgruntled then perhaps our advice has merit. As my wife says, but you do you.
Stopped in last week. Fresh new young faces. 5 or 6 girls on a slow Sunday. All the perks as before.
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Twitter can be found with some recent photos (and a topless one of her piercings if you go WAY down).
Pros:
Attractive, she doesn't post face photos due to some info she may choose to share with you if you go, it's not my business (and cannot confirm truth).
Very safe area, on the border of Sterling / Shelby / Rochester Hills-ish. Private Condo / Apt setup.
Nude massage from the getgo with encouraged roaming, just no FIV / insertion.
Chill appointment, got to know you a bit before asking "what do you want" type talk.
Very professional and covering bases of "Can I do X, can I do why, are you comfortable with A", etc.
Easy scheduling but my tip: Call when you arrive, she isn't super quick (with me) on texting back so I waited / assumed I was going to be stood up, call on arrival.
Cons:
Pricey for what was offered of the "base" price. 220 for hr massage. Standard handshake.
FS / extras were another 80. I chose not to partake, as the price seemed high, even though I did find her attractive. I may reach out and determine what's included / etc for the 80, but there is a high chance I'll stick to my favorites until I can find someone who does what I want for a price that's tolerable.
I personally didn't care, but she does screening (work email or LinkedIn). I know some people are touchy on this topic.
If the price was right (you can get more for way less from other providers who maybe aren't as attractive but way more bang for your buck) I would repeat, but at 220/ hr, it's just too much unfortunately, which is a shame. She has other jobs / hustles so this isn't a do or die for her.
Still looking for a good BBBJ (or FS, but not necessary) for the right price provider on this side of the state (Decent driving distance from Auburn Hills / Troy side of town) but so far you have to still go to Southfield / Eastpointe / etc. If anyone has someone they like and are willing to share, I would appreciate here or in PM.
Be safe everyone.
Chinese massage on Wayne rd, they have two young, beautiful Chinese girls that are working part-time, one of them told me 40 is too little for a hand end, she also told me next time don't ask for me, ask for a girl in the front desk.
The young Chinese are usually inside of her room and you need to ask for them.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5662253]Agree. Standard for a HE is 40. Especially if it was at least a decent massage and she gets you to blow. Just because they don't ask / demand / expect doesn't mean they don't want. In fact, I appreciate those who actually appreciate and never ask for more tip and will generally give them more. Something about them acting like it's not just about the money that they actually want to make you feel good. Let's reward that attitude.[/QUOTE]
I've never there? Is the area safe?
[QUOTE=MichMan43;5664790]Stopped in last week. Fresh new young faces. 5 or 6 girls on a slow Sunday. All the perks as before.[/QUOTE]Sorry if this is a dumb question, is this referring to the one on 8 mile in Southfield / Redford?
[QUOTE=Wolf24;5665353]I've never there? Is the area safe?[/QUOTE]It's pretty safe, but not very safe, but it could be safer. Is that clear enough?
[QUOTE=Kimha55;5664510]You cannot get this service at any spa in Troy. There was once 13 spas open in Troy, there is now only 3. Sunshine provides a great massage and that is it. The girls here have figured out that the only way to keep a spa open in Troy is to do eveything legal and that's what they do here. This review is not legit.[/QUOTE]My review was not fake. As always, YMMV.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5662132]Man. You're setting yourself up to get an old hag next time and no handy. That is cheap.[/QUOTE]Aren't most of them old? LOL. But seriously, thanks for the heads up! I'll let you know if the service remains the same when I return.
I've heard there are a few new girls at some of the local establishments. There is a new girl at the Chinese massage on Vanborn; a new girl at Ocean on Coolidge in Berkeley, and a new girl named Anita at Saigon (I've heard she's Cuban). I'm hopeful to try all of them out but am wondering if anyone has a report on any of them. Cheers!
[QUOTE=Wolf24;5665353]I've never there? Is the area safe?[/QUOTE]Are you asking about earth? The US?
[QUOTE=EdHemlock;5665407]Sorry if this is a dumb question, is this referring to the one on 8 mile in Southfield / Redford?[/QUOTE]There is only one magic in Detroit so I would say yes. Hard to believe 5-6 girls anywhere in Detroit tho.
[QUOTE=MichMan43;5664790]Stopped in last week. Fresh new young faces. 5 or 6 girls on a slow Sunday. All the perks as before.[/QUOTE]They have 3 girls working, all are over 55 years old and one mama, also clearly over 55.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5664614]It's been reported these two wonderful places were closed involuntarily. We are told of a sign on the front door.
What exactly does it say?[/QUOTE]They check codes and unfortunately, massage licenses. If the girls don't have a Michigan massage license, they shut them down. The good news is, they will open again if the owner chooses to stick around.
[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;5665889]I've heard there are a few new girls at some of the local establishments. There is a new girl at the Chinese massage on Vanborn; a new girl at Ocean on Coolidge in Berkeley, and a new girl named Anita at Saigon (I've heard she's Cuban). I'm hopeful to try all of them out but am wondering if anyone has a report on any of them. Cheers![/QUOTE]I had a session with Anita last week great massage work. Curious if any different endings are available.
So what are the going rates out there now? My go to went from 90-100 for a BJ to 140. Are they crazy or has inflation hit here too? I'm used to 40 = HJ 80-100 = BJ and 100-140 = FS? And I'm talking about regulars AMPs, no private providers.
Speaking of, any AMPs offer Greek?
[QUOTE=TWood;5655309]Does any one know if they are still around?[/QUOTE]Don't think so. It feels like they were from 80's. Veronica was almost done with the hobby that time itself. May be her sister Mandy in westland will be able to tell. Good luck.
[QUOTE=WiggzMcGee;5666077]So what are the going rates out there now? My go to went from 90-100 for a BJ to 140. Are they crazy or has inflation hit here too? I'm used to 40 = HJ 80-100 = BJ and 100-140 = FS? And I'm talking about regulars AMPs, no private providers.
Speaking of, any AMPs offer Greek?[/QUOTE]I pay around $160-$180 for FS at AMPs, I never do HJ, or just BJ so idk that price. First time I went to an AMP it was $120 so yeah they went up a bit for sure.
Has anyone seen her recently? The good one I mean.
[QUOTE=MidwestMayhem;5666264]Has anyone seen her recently? The good one I mean.[/QUOTE]She's still around. Starting to form a stable of girls that will all use her Waterford apartment.