Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=CameronB;3403478]Brilliant rant, Wielic. In my case I learned my BB lesson long ago where, fortunately, the solution was a single antibiotic shot in the ass and I was good-to-go. I call it lucky because it could have been much worse. Unless it's been with an SO, I've been covered ever since. However, unlike you, I have no CFS issue with an SP known for BB because it's no different than the same covered roll of the dice with a chick you picked up at a hotel bar on vacation (there's no way to know what's been uncovered inside her an hour ago). And honestly I've found many SP's practice better hygiene than civvies.

So who's bold enough to admit they got SP BB dosed? (Amon you can abstain from this answer since we already know how proud you are spreading your oozing SP-originated clap doses in various unknowing female orifices). Who's gotten SP BB dosed, lived to tell, and bold enough to admit it (other than Amon)?

Cam.

P.S.: unlike others, I'm totally entertained by Amon so fire away dude.[/QUOTE]After first seeing this debate on the boards a while ago, I was kind of surprised as up to that point I had never been offered BB. But I noticed something in the way a session went that probably kept this from happening. We all know the way a hhr session normally goes, typically it involves BBBJ, then intercourse. I usually let the girl suck me for 5 minutes or so then say something like "grab a rubber" Instead I started saying something like "you want to ride me?" Or something along those lines. Since I stopped mentioning the cover, not a single one reached for a cover before trying to climb on top. These aren't randoms off backpage. I will typically only see a girl if she has a lot of good reviews here or comes from a certain reliable source (hopefully I don't have to say what I mean by that).

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3398616]Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.[/QUOTE]I think a gasping sound could be heard throughout Cincinnati and Dayton when this post hit the board. The gasps were coming from a several of ladies that advertise on USA. I agree that it would be unfair, as others have stated, to out any of these providers by name. That said in my experience it IS a common practice among the ladies here. It is not only offered by the younger girls but also the more 'mature' ladies as well. I have been offered BBFS by 2 of the more mature 'busty' providers from this site that I have seen recently. Of those 2 (the most uh, shapely) occasionally offers Greek as well, but does not advertise it. It is also a very common thing for ladies to say "you are the only client that I would do that with". Why do they say that? I don't know, I just lay there and watch their nose grow.

On the subject of DATY, it is not a regular activity for me as I am selfish and like the attention to be on me, and knowing that so many of the ladies do offer BB I find it unappetizing. An easy way to identify who any of these ladies that offer BBFS are, is to look around and see whose holding their breath. Be safe.

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;3404010]I think a gasping sound could be heard throughout Cincinnati and Dayton when this post hit the board. The gasps were coming from a several of ladies that advertise on USA. I agree that it would be unfair, as others have stated, to out any of these providers by name. That said in my experience it IS a common practice among the ladies here. It is not only offered by the younger girls but also the more 'mature' ladies as well. I have been offered BBFS by 2 of the more mature 'busty' providers from this site that I have seen recently. Of those 2 (the most uh, shapely) occasionally offers Greek as well, but does not advertise it. It is also a very common thing for ladies to say "you are the only client that I would do that with". Why do they say that? I don't know, I just lay there and watch their nose grow.

On the subject of DATY, it is not a regular activity for me as I am selfish and like the attention to be on me, and knowing that so many of the ladies do offer BB I find it unappetizing. An easy way to identify who any of these ladies that offer BBFS are, is to look around and see whose holding their breath. Be safe.[/QUOTE]This shit comes up every six months or so. They'd have to be world record breath holders. LOL.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3398616]Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.[/QUOTE]This could be a clue to some of these ladies. The band wasn't singing about this subject but I think the lyrics are appropriate here;.

Ooooh that smell.

Can't you smell that smell.

Ooooh that smell.

The smell of death surrounds you.

Taking time to to make them feel special and obtaining bareback is almost a guarantee, getting some girls to bb on the first date can be quite tricky. My policy is if no bb on first date then no date = no money for them at all. Contact them again when everybody else is broke after spending up all their social security checks, paychecks, disability, etc on drugs and hookers, etc. And your chances will be easier since business will have slowed and they are desperate for that money. Timing is half the battle when trying to get these hookers to respond promptly and be more opened minded to requests. Most of the times they will not respond because everyone is already competing to visit them them when they just got their paychecks and willing to pay top dollar since they just thinking about their "nut". Unless you are rich they will most likely outpay and outbid you and who do you think the hooker will set up the date with in that regard? BE PATIENT wait for it and prices will be more negotiable, menus will be more open and most importantly of all no more waiting 8 fucking hours before a hooker responds back, last but not least less chances of getting stood up since less chances of double booking.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3402685]All of them go bareback. I have seen my fair share, and they all offer it at some point. If you are half way decent looking and take the time to make them feel special, they will ask YOU for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amon777;3405201]Taking time to to make them feel special and obtaining bareback is almost a guarantee, getting some girls to bb on the first date can be quite tricky. My policy is if no bb on first date then no date = no money for them at all. Contact them again when everybody else is broke after spending up all their social security checks, paychecks, disability, etc on drugs and hookers, etc. And your chances will be easier since business will have slowed and they are desperate for that money. Timing is half the battle when trying to get these hookers to respond promptly and be more opened minded to requests. Most of the times they will not respond because everyone is already competing to visit them them when they just got their paychecks and willing to pay top dollar since they just thinking about their "nut". Unless you are rich they will most likely outpay and outbid you and who do you think the hooker will set up the date with in that regard? BE PATIENT wait for it and prices will be more negotiable, menus will be more open and most importantly of all no more waiting 8 fucking hours before a hooker responds back, last but not least less chances of getting stood up since less chances of double booking.[/QUOTE]Amon's guide to getting BBFS on a shoestring budget.

This is probably about 95% accurate.

[QUOTE=Amon777;3405201]Taking time to to make them feel special and obtaining bareback is almost a guarantee, getting some girls to bb on the first date can be quite tricky. My policy is if no bb on first date then no date = no money for them at all. Contact them again when everybody else is broke after spending up all their social security checks, paychecks, disability, etc on drugs and hookers, etc. And your chances will be easier since business will have slowed and they are desperate for that money. Timing is half the battle when trying to get these hookers to respond promptly and be more opened minded to requests. Most of the times they will not respond because everyone is already competing to visit them them when they just got their paychecks and willing to pay top dollar since they just thinking about their "nut". Unless you are rich they will most likely outpay and outbid you and who do you think the hooker will set up the date with in that regard? BE PATIENT wait for it and prices will be more negotiable, menus will be more open and most importantly of all no more waiting 8 fucking hours before a hooker responds back, last but not least less chances of getting stood up since less chances of double booking.[/QUOTE]Your past couple posts have been. Informative and normal LOL.

Not sure where to post this but this seems good enough. I am looking to go to the next level of providers. I want model type or porn star type. AAA League of providers looks and performance level. I'm going to treat myself so money is not an issue. I have only seen girls from this site based on all of your reviews. So I'm asking for your opinions on who the best active providers who are 10/10? Thanks in advance. Also you can pm me instead of responding here.

[QUOTE=Cloudy1;3406301]Not sure where to post this but this seems good enough. I am looking to go to the next level of providers. I want model type or porn star type. AAA League of providers looks and performance level. I'm going to treat myself so money is not an issue. I have only seen girls from this site based on all of your reviews. So I'm asking for your opinions on who the best active providers who are 10/10? Thanks in advance. Also you can pm me instead of responding here.[/QUOTE]Check out Eros for some of the travelling escorts. Some insanely gorgeous people flying around the country ready to curl your toes for the right price.

But I think I may be losing some interest in the hobby. There are some providers I'm interested in seeing, but none I have a really burning desire to see. Age (early 50's) may be a factor, but I still check out hot women in everyday life and can still get it up just fine without pills. Your reports of busts, providers with smelly snatches, and crazy boyfriends / pimps concern me, but those reports never kept me out of the hobby before. Money is tight now, but it has been before too.

I've "quit" the hobby before only to return after a few weeks or months. I'm not in a "quitting" mindset now though, the lessened interest in pursuing providers is kind of there on its own. I've been back in the hobby this time around for about 6 years. Maybe it's just running its natural course.

I think part of it is the hobby gives an adrenaline rush, but it's not really a challenge. I mean, when I show up in some crappy notel room to see a provider who's been reviewed here, it's about 99% guaranteed the panties are coming off. It's been about 6 weeks since I've had any. Last year at this time, I would have been climbing the walls. Now, I'd like to get some, but it's not the all consuming focus that it once was.

Maybe, hopefully, this means the hobby can be just an occasional indulgence for me without it being torture to stay out of the hobby for long. Finding a bed buddy in real life would help too, as that will be a challenge in a way that the hobby isn't.

Thanks for reading. I obviously can't talk about this stuff with anyone in everyday life, I figured some of you might understand. Stay safe out there.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3406897]But I think I may be losing some interest in the hobby. There are some providers I'm interested in seeing, but none I have a really burning desire to see. Age (early 50's) may be a factor, but I still check out hot women in everyday life and can still get it up just fine without pills. Your reports of busts, providers with smelly snatches, and crazy boyfriends / pimps concern me, but those reports never kept me out of the hobby before. Money is tight now, but it has been before too.

I've "quit" the hobby before only to return after a few weeks or months. I'm not in a "quitting" mindset now though, the lessened interest in pursuing providers is kind of there on its own. I've been back in the hobby this time around for about 6 years. Maybe it's just running its natural course.

I think part of it is the hobby gives an adrenaline rush, but it's not really a challenge. I mean, when I show up in some crappy notel room to see a provider who's been reviewed here, it's about 99% guaranteed the panties are coming off. It's been about 6 weeks since I've had any. Last year at this time, I would have been climbing the walls. Now, I'd like to get some, but it's not the all consuming focus that it once was.

Maybe, hopefully, this means the hobby can be just an occasional indulgence for me without it being torture to stay out of the hobby for long. Finding a bed buddy in real life would help too, as that will be a challenge in a way that the hobby isn't.

Thanks for reading. I obviously can't talk about this stuff with anyone in everyday life, I figured some of you might understand. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]I go in spurts (yep. That's a pun) but I do fade away depending on the action I have outside of it all. I always veer back in though. Sometimes I'll land on a new girl that just hits all my buttons, so she winds up having a very good few weeks. I've tried the SB thing a few times, but the eventual sense of entitlement they get causes me to break it off. Oh well. First world problems.

I have been in your boat too. I started this a few years ago when the likes of Sasha, Cupcake and other winners were providing. I reached senior status and spent a lot of time with the women in Dayton and Cincinnati. The quality of service fell off and I would leave dreams feeling like I wasted money. I have no problem getting women outside the hobby, but the drama that comes with it is often too much to deal with. I left and started a relationship and deleted all of my accounts on every site. Now that I'm back it feels like it's worse than ever. Finding someone that acts like they enjoy their job is rare and, when you do, you still feel like you could have spent your time and money elsewhere. I see women maybe once a month now when I get tired of taking care of myself LOL. I used to be a 3-4 girl a week monger. It's just not that fulfilling anymore. My advice would be to take time off and spend time with the women you really enjoy. Sara TT is more expensive than most, but she will take care of you to the point you'll be fulfilled for at least a month. Just my two cents brother. As always, stay safe and have fun gentlemen.

LC79.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3406897]But I think I may be losing some interest in the hobby. There are some providers I'm interested in seeing, but none I have a really burning desire to see. Age (early 50's) may be a factor, but I still check out hot women in everyday life and can still get it up just fine without pills. Your reports of busts, providers with smelly snatches, and crazy boyfriends / pimps concern me, but those reports never kept me out of the hobby before. Money is tight now, but it has been before too.

I've "quit" the hobby before only to return after a few weeks or months. I'm not in a "quitting" mindset now though, the lessened interest in pursuing providers is kind of there on its own. I've been back in the hobby this time around for about 6 years. Maybe it's just running its natural course.

I think part of it is the hobby gives an adrenaline rush, but it's not really a challenge. I mean, when I show up in some crappy notel room to see a provider who's been reviewed here, it's about 99% guaranteed the panties are coming off. It's been about 6 weeks since I've had any. Last year at this time, I would have been climbing the walls. Now, I'd like to get some, but it's not the all consuming focus that it once was.

Maybe, hopefully, this means the hobby can be just an occasional indulgence for me without it being torture to stay out of the hobby for long. Finding a bed buddy in real life would help too, as that will be a challenge in a way that the hobby isn't.

Thanks for reading. I obviously can't talk about this stuff with anyone in everyday life, I figured some of you might understand. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]

Great thread. I feel ya. I've been away from the hobby for a bit, and trying to get back in is frustrating. I look for a particular type of experience, and those women who can provide it are getting fewer. Am I being TOO particular? Probably. But it is what it is.

I'm looking at the SB thing, but haven't pulled the trigger, because safety and discretion are of prime importance now. I've reached out to a few of the local girls, and either get crickets or no interest. I don't need to get in the middle of any drama.

Still pursuing a local connection, but looking forward to a trip to Texas in a few months. There is a business model that exists there which has made some very happy memories for me in the past. It's a good thing I don't live there, because I would be broke.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3406897]But I think I may be losing some interest in the hobby. There are some provider' I'm interested in seeing, but none I have a really burning desire to see. Age (early 50's) may be a factor, but I still check out hot women in everyday life and can still get it up just fine without pills. Your reports of busts, providers with smelly snatches, and crazy boyfriends / pimps concern me, but those reports never kept me out of the hobby before. Money is tight now, but it has been before too.

I've "quit" the hobby before only to return after a few weeks or months. I'm not in a "quitting" mindset now though, the lessened interest in pursuing providers is kind of there on its own. I've been back in the hobby this time around for about 6 years. Maybe it's just running its natural course.

I think part of it is the hobby gives an adrenaline rush, but it's not really a challenge. I mean, when I show up in some crappy notel room to see a provider who's been reviewed here, it's about 99% guaranteed the panties are coming off. It's been about 6 weeks since I've had any. Last year at this time, I would have been climbing the walls. Now, I'd like to get some, but it's not the all consuming focus that it once was.

Maybe, hopefully, this means the hobby can be just an occasional indulgence for me without it being torture to stay out of the hobby for long. Finding a bed buddy in real life would help too, as that will be a challenge in a way that the hobby isn't.

Thanks for reading. I obviously can't talk about this stuff with anyone in everyday life, I figured some of you might understand. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]

This morning I made a cruise through Mcm for the first time in at least 6 months. I picked up a nice looking girl about 5'6" dark hair. When the BBBJ started I thought she was going to bite my dick off. I told her that she was using too much teeth but she couldn't change her technique.

I've run into this type of problem before. Some girls think that using a lot of teeth makes you come faster but I find it a real hinderance due to the pain involved being very distracting.

I finally handed her some money toget rid of her.

Does anybody have any suggestions for the future.

Garyhb.

Anybody having problems reading the reviews on Escort Babylon? When I press read review nothing happens it won't even let me write a review. I like EB it's another source of information and it's very entertaining. HL29.