Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Kggcx;7235824]I'm new to the SB world. How do you send the (monthly?) allowance if it's not PPM? Is there a way you can ensure the (verbal / written?) agreement is met? I'd appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]Venmo.

Get your lawyer to write up a sugar contract and sign it in front of a notary. Call the sugar police if she doesn't hold up her end of the bargain. Or just don't go on allowance until you trust that she will meet her part of the deal. And don't be so poor that get ghosting you after paying her allowance makes you do anything other than shrug and move on.

[QUOTE=DilzParty;7236181]Venmo.

Get your lawyer to write up a sugar contract and sign it in front of a notary. Call the sugar police if she doesn't hold up her end of the bargain. Or just don't go on allowance until you trust that she will meet her part of the deal. And don't be so poor that get ghosting you after paying her allowance makes you do anything other than shrug and move on.[/QUOTE]What he's saying is, you're hosed man. It's like the guy that wants to make sure she doesn't show up with her BFs jizz in her for your date at the high end steak house you pay for! Hahah.

[QUOTE=Kggcx;7235824]I'm new to the SB world. How do you send the (monthly?) allowance if it's not PPM? Is there a way you can ensure the (verbal / written?) agreement is met? I'd appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]You are on your own and there is no way you can enforce anything. You have to trust them.

In practice most arrangements with an allowance don't end nicely.

That's why you stick to PPM most of the time.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7236498]You are on your own and there is no way you can enforce anything. You have to trust them.

In practice most arrangements with an allowance don't end nicely.
That's why you stick to PPM most of the time.[/QUOTE]For sure. Give her a allowance and she'll she'll having every excuse in the book to not come over (she's freshly fucked by her BF). Guys do allowance to boost their own ego IMO. Horrible idea, IMO. She works, she gets paid, she starts BS, I bail.

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7235750]Yeah, kind of the whole reason I go the sugar route is to avoid those LOL But you know if she almost cuts the price immediately, maybe the condom is optional too.

Looks like she just added that opera video to her profile. Something about a women singing in Italian with not much on could get me hard enough to wrap up.[/QUOTE]They are all pros if you knew how many guys they fuck off seeking Again, they live a sea of delusion. " I'm not a sex worker if I say I'm something else when he puts 500 bucks in my pants after fucking me," My current one calls it sex work, "like who am I kidding? She says. Delusion chip must be faulty in this model. The poor bastards that will one day marry up these women. God.

Help them.

At least she's skinny! Guess the Tuckwila opera don't pay that well!!

[QUOTE=Kggcx;7235824]I'm new to the SB world. How do you send the (monthly?) allowance if it's not PPM? Is there a way you can ensure the (verbal / written?) agreement is met? I'd appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]Only way is allowance for services rendered. Good luck with that. You could just agree on a monthly allowance and break it up over the visits you plan to see them. Make sure to take federal and Medicaid out first and send them a W2 at the end of the year.

Joking mostly but, like others have said, ppm or allowance into ppm. One and the same really but they might be more eager to meet up if they know they're banking a set amount over the course of a month. Ya know what, just stick to ppm. I'm getting a headache trying to finagle sense out of this! LOL.

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=Kggcx;7235824]I'm new to the SB world. How do you send the (monthly?) allowance if it's not PPM? Is there a way you can ensure the (verbal / written?) agreement is met? I'd appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]Be sure to agree on how many dates you'll get in exchange for a monthly allowance. Then divide that allowance by the number of dates, and pay the proportional amount (of the allowance) on each date.

Cash or gift cards or bitcoin [B]to maximize anonymity[/B].

Cashapp or Paypal to achieve some level of anonymity.

For this hobby, I stay away from Venmo and other electronic payment methods.

[QUOTE=Original703;7237139]Be sure to agree on how many dates you'll get in exchange for a monthly allowance. Then divide that allowance by the number of dates, and pay the proportional amount (of the allowance) on each date.

Cash or gift cards or bitcoin [B]to maximize anonymity[/B].

Cashapp or Paypal to achieve some level of anonymity.

For this hobby, I stay away from Venmo and other electronic payment methods.[/QUOTE]Sounds like PPM to me!

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7236639]Only way is allowance for services rendered. Good luck with that. You could just agree on a monthly allowance and break it up over the visits you plan to see them. Make sure to take federal and Medicaid out first and send them a W2 at the end of the year.

Joking mostly but, like others have said, ppm or allowance into ppm. One and the same really but they might be more eager to meet up if they know they're banking a set amount over the course of a month. Ya know what, just stick to ppm. I'm getting a headache trying to finagle sense out of this! LOL..[/QUOTE]Headache for sure. Regular dating is starting to look appealing. Problem is as an older guy I get hit up by women in their 40's. The ones that got too old for Seeking. Yuk!

Look, it only work as PPM. That way neither the SD gets burned by baby taking money and not seeing the SD and SB don't feel obligated to do things the SD wants but she doesn't. Works both ways and you need to have game to negotiate ppm as an allowance. Meaning she understands is an allowance given in parts.

[QUOTE=Kggcx;7235824]I'm new to the SB world. How do you send the (monthly?) allowance if it's not PPM? Is there a way you can ensure the (verbal / written?) agreement is met? I'd appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]

I fucked this one last year when she was in town. She's back in town and reached out but I already have too many in my lineup. Pics are accurate, short thick ginger. The sex was fun but nothing exceptional. She was a lot of fun in the bar before going to the room, great conversation and very outgoing. I don't remember exactly what the damage was but it was in the $400 range.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/26287682-feac-4e34-aaea-a4bc020b3bcd[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7237959]Look, it only work as PPM. That way neither the SD gets burned by baby taking money and not seeing the SD and SB don't feel obligated to do things the SD wants but she doesn't. Works both ways and you need to have game to negotiate ppm as an allowance. Meaning she u
nderstands is an allowance given in parts.[/QUOTE]Your money, she needs it, tell her what you expect and how it works for you, she don't agree, move on. Game is for normy chicks. 10SBs to every 1 of us. (if only we acted this way). They are sitting on their phones at home more that than want us to believe.

You're a man not a s----
y'all get it.

Hit this one up because I liked her pics and she was fairly close. Minimum chatting on the board then to text. She initially asked for 700 ppm but immediately accepted my counter offer. Set up a meet for the same day, had a couple drinks and she was down to fuck. She can't host.

She's a decent kisser, decent head, cums multiple times once you get her going. Nice creamy and fairly tight pussy, took it raw without hesitation. Several positions and a couple orgasms later and I filled her up. Decent get together. She doesn't like fingers inside but likes to be rubbed and have her clit licked.

Be aware that even though the pics are her, they are old and about 30 lbs ago, so instead of a tight body your getting a young MILF with a little baby damage, a pouch tummy and a decent looking but jiggly ass, b cup breasts. Might repeat just because it was convenient and a very easy setup.

No, I won't share her number and you didn't hear anything from me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f542b7a-d96f-40ad-bdfa-acb1e841eea2[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7244432]Hit this one up because I liked her pics and she was fairly close. Minimum chatting on the board then to text. She initially asked for 700 ppm but immediately accepted my counter offer. Set up a meet for the same day, had a couple drinks and she was down to fuck. She can't host.

She's a decent kisser, decent head, cums multiple times once you get her going. Nice creamy and fairly tight pussy, took it raw without hesitation. Several positions and a couple orgasms later and I filled her up. Decent get together. She doesn't like fingers inside but likes to be rubbed and have her clit licked.

Be aware that even though the pics are her, they are old and about 30 lbs ago, so instead of a tight body your getting a young MILF with a little baby damage, a pouch tummy and a decent looking but jiggly ass, b cup breasts. Might repeat just because it was convenient and a very easy setup.

No, I won't share her number and you didn't hear anything from me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f542b7a-d96f-40ad-bdfa-acb1e841eea2[/URL][/QUOTE]Funny you brought her up, she reached me back on there. Now I have to fill her up. Hopefully won't cause any more baby damage. Fingers crossed.

3 weeks in and started off well with a few wins at good rates. What I am running into is not being able to host and many of them are not able too. Of course there is the hotel but that runs up the cost because god forbid they chip in. LOL.

Any advise on the following:

-if neither can host, working in the cost of the hotel into their rate. So if they want 500 but we need a hotel, then they should take 400.

-getting them off the site and into text is key but found some girls that won't kiss, so it is one of the first things I ask after we agree on a price, what their rules are. Any other tips.

-any other general tips to save time. Lots of time invested then they don't pan out due to taking forever to text back or schedules don't align.