As Promised, my not so good update from Vegas Trip
[QUOTE=Dac007;5761894]I've seen some of the responses from others, frankly I think they are a bit paranoid. If you are safe, smart and control the situation, you should be fine. I've had 2 CG's and 2 providers do an outcall to my hotel. I've never had anything close to a bad experience, some of them were incredible. I never walk with them to the room, I tell them I have coworkers or friends or family staying in the hotel, need to be discrete so I give them the room number and ask they to come up in 5 minutes. If they don't agree to that, it's a no. If they do, I go to my room, lock up all extra money, keys, wallet and any valuables. All I will have on me is the donation.[/QUOTE]Thank you all for the valuable information sent before my Vegas trip. I took all into consideration when trying to book providers. As promised here is my update for you all. Let me first start out by reminding those reading this for the first time, I am no stranger to the hobby as I have been seeing providers for the past 15 years with no problems until they decided to change the game and start to ask for references, social media links, deposits, and real names along with hotel info and room numbers, All of which I refuse to give outfor obvious reasons and in the past have had zero issues with outcalls. I am also Not a cheap monger, nor do I come off as LE when talking to providers. That being said, I nearly failed on every try with my recent trip to LV.
Before I arrived I made a list of about 15 providers and even contacted a few of them via email to establish a conversation with dates in mind to meet, all were responsive and happy to see me once I arrived. Once in town, things changed as the ones that didn't ghost me, asked for references (which I did provide a few, but none got back to them within the week so they declined to see me) the ones that didn't ask for references, asked for a deposit which I refused in a nice way and they ghosted me. I also took the advice of someone on here and added my "monger name" at the hotel check in so that providers could check that I was in deed staying at the hotel, which by the way was a big hotel on the Strip. And to my surprise, multiple providers were unable to confirm that I was staying at the hotel (so this gag although great idea, obviously does not work).
To say the least, I was super disappointed as I usually score a provider each and every night while in Vegas but due to the game change over the years this has proven to be more of a hassle now than fun as it used to be. I almost gave up it became so bad! However there is a bit of good news as I wound up scoring twice with my last 2 days in LV.
The first score came from one of the providers on my list after calling and leaving her a nice VM to call me back if she was available, she sent me a text a few hours later saying she works a day job but will be available after 9 pm. Long story short she asked for No references, No deposit, and N hotel information. We chatted a bit via text and wound up meeting at my hotel bar. All was perfect, went up to the room and the rest is good history but the damage was severe at 700, and although it was a good time at the moment, I would not repeat for this rate.
The second hit came on my last night as I had my choice of a handful of casino girls at 2 am walking around the bar area and slots of Wynn. I chose a descent looking white girl and we both took an Uber back to my hotel. Damage was better at 300, a quick trip, and didn't bother to get digits.
All in all, what I took away from my last trip to LV is if you are going to continue to play this game, and it is a hard game to play these days, if you are not willing to give out your true identity, hotel room number, or have a long list of references (which I do not) then you are probably out of luck when it comes to meeting a provider (at least for outcall) The golden days are gone for good, and the new days come with too much risk! Burners, and aliases do nothing to help mongers out. Oh, and one last thing I forgot to mention, I have NO negative feedback on my "Mr. Number" or whatever the providers use to see information from my burner phone. So not sure what gives here, but it has become harder and harder to play the game in LV.
Las Vegas Eros. Worthwhile
Maybe is your a Las Vegas veteran this question seems silly, but is Eros in Vegas worthwhile. Mostly wanting to confirm that there is no up selling or bait & switch.
Haven't seen anyone, but got numerous $300/ HR quotes with some possible going down to $250/$200.
In a word. It's rip off heaven
[QUOTE=RainMan5;5774588]Maybe is your a Las Vegas veteran this question seems silly, but is Eros in Vegas worthwhile. Mostly wanting to confirm that there is no up selling or bait & switch.
Haven't seen anyone, but got numerous $300/ HR quotes with some possible going down to $250/$200.[/QUOTE]I'd stay away. The offers you're getting are most likely the "Show Up Fee". Expect the upsell and rip off.
There's currently 361 escorts on line on Eros. I'd say there less then 10 percent of those that are legit. If you're a TER member, do a search of the girls with low or rip off scores and you'll see most are from Eros.
I just wouldn't use that site.
I've avoided EROrrS for many years
I got bad links idiot level rates B&S fake & other assorted BS for the most part 7-9 years ago & avoided ever since. I know they WERE pretty popular when CL & BP were tops but format was not to my liking as much as others. Post CL / BP. We all know who the winners are now, and have other personal favs, personally, I totally avoid the site, fortunately here in LV, we have many alternatives.
[QUOTE=Ombyb;5774825]Imo, stay away. 95% of Eros is upsell bait and switch agencies. Yes there probably are some legit providers on there but few and far. The $200 tourist scam is now the $300 tourist scam. Hot Girl (but not the one in the pic) gets to your room takes your $300 then proceeds to explain "this is vegas" and you ha6-8 ve to tip if you want her to do anything. She'll then throw out an outrageous number like $1500. You negotiate down to another 2-300 (on top of the $300 she already stole from you) for a lap dance and HJ and feel like a chump after she leaves.
Confirm all you want that the $300 is all inclusive. When she gets there the above mentioned scenario will happen. If you truly think the girl is legit post the ad here and let us take a look.[/QUOTE]
I am also curious about your list of 15,
Because I wonder if any are on my lists of: certainly legit. Totally avoid for something. Seen before. Regulars. Curious but as the other monger said, a review by some senior LV dudes may offer valuable info MAYBE. 1 thing your experience backs up, and it's happened to me more than once. For the most part, the ladies don't want to hear about you or me or what ever. Until you are hear and READY TO FUCK. As many ladies post, call when ready. You or I or anyone can discuss next Thursday, or worse, Friday / Saturday. And the woman will keep her (you) options open. Once that day comes around, especially if you have not met or are not a regular of hers, is something else is already going on, even a lesser $$ date, she'll go with that, may be you come next, maybe something & some one else. Maybe she falls asleep. Maybe she had no $$ just got some & needs some dope. Maybe a lot of things. Lets not forget how many mf's call or text the ladies and NEVER show or meet, wanting pictures to beat to or some other BS. If you set some time for the weekend, those are her busy times. A bird in hand is far better than two in the Bush. Unless a chic is like, really struggling to get fucked & paid for it, "reservations" are not a priority. I live here now, but the 1st time I came to LV was like 2005 I also had a list of 15--20, it was a Weekend in Dec. A slower month for hookers, I called all. Not a single answer reply. Tho I had contacted 2 or 3 a day earlier. B list. Got some agencies, nothing more, C list, the very last of the 40 or so total list I made, resulted in ONE contact, she showed, but she was agency toursit, NOT the girl in the pics either. I let her in, she smiled imeaditly rolled the scripted pitch, well. Its xxx for me to show up, if you want me to stay, xxx if you want to do something besides me sitting here with my cloths on, that's xxxx. I stopped her and said, get the fk out, your not the one in the pics & I asked whoever answered if she was she said yes, & I know that wasn't you. Your # is different. To which she said llll is busy, she asked me to help you out. I repeated strongly she needed to leave, she stood saying - "this is a good way for you to get hurt here" as she walked to the door. I said IDG a fk, I got nothing to live for, why do you think I'm paying for it? And besides, (I had a suite at Venetian) you are the only visitor I;ve had, you were certainly recorded by security coming, and your number will be the last on my cell if I get hurt or when I get hurt. You really shouldn't have threatened me, now should I fear for my life?" She got real pissed. Her last card was trumped, all she could muster was "ASShole! I countered with, hey lets be friends, Ill give you right now 200 to fk & we can be friends, start all over without the BS. I knew shed decline. Her show up fee was 150 or 200 which was what I had agreed to when I had spoke with someone, for sex 30 m, not the bs. I was serious tho, while she was nowhere near as attractive as the picture, I know cause I had printed the posts w pictures that I contacted, so I could reference in LV put in order by looks. She was fuckable, but not HOT, at best, & she was dressed and made up as well as she could be, she was a 6 no more. Now I was pissed, I had come for a work Christmas party, free air & suite for 2 nights, we had dinner at Tau then table / bottle servie at club Tao, earlier, by the time I started calling hookers, it was already about 12 am it was 4 am or later now. Having totally exhausted my list, I thought of calling an agency out of the phone book, maybe I did. I went online, back to CL OR BP or some site, and low & behold, I saw an ad from a very Sexy brunette MILF, who I had seen post infreguently but felt was very likely legit. I texted & she replied right away, not wanting to lose time texting, I just called, she answered, and I let her know my $$ range, she showed about when she said she would- about an hour. We spoke about what I wanted & I made my offer, she said "honey for $300 - you can fuck me any way you want!"she lept up and planted a huge kiss. With tounge on my surprised face. I wanted to cum twice, she stayed almost 4 hours. We fucked right off, spoke an hour fucked again, she asked if I thought I could go one more round, yes, she sucked so angry that I was at attention & fucking once again so I Got 3 shots, and then we talked somemore, slowly she dressed and left, Very good time, I got super lucky. Anyway, that was the Famous Brie Michaels, no longer here in vegas, but a hell of a woman, Worth more like 300 a shot, must have called her on the right night, any way. I ended up moving 3 blocks away from her house 2 or 3 years later when I moved here from the South Bay.
[QUOTE=ZekSwinger2;5768050]Thank you all for the valuable information sent before my Vegas trip. I took all into consideration when trying to book providers. As promised here is my update for you all. Let me first start out by reminding those reading this for the first time, I am no stranger to the hobby as I have been seeing providers for the past 15 years with no problems until they decided to change the game and start to ask for references, social media links, deposits, and real names along with hotel info and room numbers, All of which I refuse to give outfor obvious reasons and in the past have had zero issues with outcalls. I am also Not a cheap monger, nor do I come off as LE when talking to providers. That being said, I nearly failed on every try with my recent trip to LV.
Before I arrived I made a list of about 15 providers and even contacted a few of them via email to establish a conversation with dates in mind to meet, all were responsive and happy to see me once I arrived. Once in town, things changed as the ones that didn't ghost me, asked for references (which I did provide a few, but none got back to them within the week so they declined to see me) the ones that didn't ask for references, asked for a deposit which I refused in a nice way and they ghosted me. I also took the advice of someone on here and added my "monger name" at the hotel check in so that providers could check that I was in deed staying at the hotel, which by the way was a big hotel on the Strip. And to my surprise, multiple providers were unable to confirm that I was staying at the hotel (so this gag although great idea, obviously does not work).
To say the least, I was super disappointed as I usually score a provider each and every night while in Vegas but due to the game change over the years this has proven to be more of a hassle now than fun as it used to be. I almost gave up it became so bad! However there is a bit of good news as I wound up scoring twice with my last 2 days in LV.
The first score came from one of the providers on my list after calling and leaving her a nice VM to call me back if she was available, she sent me a text a few hours later saying she works a day job but will be available after 9 pm. Long story short she asked for No references, No deposit, and N hotel information. We chatted a bit via text and wound up meeting at my hotel bar. All was perfect, went up to the room and the rest is good history but the damage was severe at 700, and although it was a good time at the moment, I would not repeat for this rate.
The second hit came on my last night as I had my choice of a handful of casino girls at 2 am walking around the bar area and slots of Wynn. I chose a descent looking white girl and we both took an Uber back to my hotel. Damage was better at 300, a quick trip, and didn't bother to get digits.
All in all, what I took away from my last trip to LV is if you are going to continue to play this game, and it is a hard game to play these days, if you are not willing to give out your true identity, hotel room number, or have a long list of references (which I do not) then you are probably out of luck when it comes to meeting a provider (at least for outcall) The golden days are gone for good, and the new days come with too much risk! Burners, and aliases do nothing to help mongers out. Oh, and one last thing I forgot to mention, I have NO negative feedback on my "Mr. Number" or whatever the providers use to see information from my burner phone. So not sure what gives here, but it has become harder and harder to play the game in LV.[/QUOTE]