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[QUOTE=Bronco62;7203875]I never go over 400. I have 3 in the lineup now, a petite 25 year old, a curvy 32 year old and a a spinner 42 year old that can out fuck the two younger ones on their best day. All are are bb, cip, and 2 will take it up the ass and the third wants to but is still not quite there yet. I'm pretty sure that I'll pop her anal cherry in the next month or so. All under 400 per meet and they never hit me up in between meetings. They are out there, you just have to weed through the dreamers and ones that believe everything they read on Reddit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7203948]I have a few in the my lineup: two early 20's; one is trailer park bred and the other is educated but neurodivergent but a freak. I also have one mid-30's in Bellingham, and numerous one-offs of various ages. All are bbfscip / cia / swallow. All are under 400, majority of them are in the 200, one is only 100 and that one now has a girlfriend who doesn't like me creampie-ing her pussy so I'm required to CIA (this is the trailer park one). They are all over that site.

If they quote you something ridiculous, don't take them seriously and move on, let them get offended. If they quote you something a bit more reasonable, discuss what the details of that arrangement look like to them; time, activities, dos and donts. Nail it down completely because if you don't, they will try and pull a fast one and waste your time. Look for newer accounts, ones with "New Member" on them. A lot of times they are novices to the site and heard about it from a friend; they likely don't know the ropes yet.

If you get negotiate a decent rate, they'll likely grandfather you in. You risk them disappearing though if they are trying to refresh their rates but, oh well. Throw that yoke off and find another.

So-Crates.[/QUOTE]Bronco and So-Crates are in the right ball park here, you shouldn't have to go over 4. I have not been fortunate to get anyone in the $2-ish range, though I would love to (teach me oh great philosopher). I'm now recently down to one in my roster, md 20's 4 for hanging out the entire day, 6+ hours on the weekends, does everything I want and currently working on popping the chocolate cherry. I do bump up to 6 for overnights as a treat. I had another down south, late 30's who was bbfscia, hosted in her own place, and had her own professional life going so was actually interesting to talk to. It's down to some really hard filtering. My conversion rate is pretty low I'm forthright with my expectations, but ultimately it's better this way both from the financial perspective and the fun you can have.

Check out the new accounts on the homepage to find someone without "baggage", or expand your age range to 30's and above. Essentially you have to have a standard in your head for what it ies you want to get, and what you want to exchange for it, you are not obligated to accept anything that exceeds what you're willing to exchange, don't need to feel bad about it either.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7203794]Very few girls ever get much more than 500 or 600 for an actual meetup. A lot of the girls on those sites haven't actually had a paid meetup of any kind and are holding out and hoping that a billionaire will discover them. Asking prices also become much more reasonable when rent is due and they are short.

Younger ones are a lot more unrealistic about their "worth" than older ones. Most of them past thirty are grateful for the attention.[/QUOTE]I've had plenty their 30's s ask for 1 k or more. Someone is paying that or like you said they are lonely no meet ups and holding out for the thirsty sipm that will do whatever for a nut. I'm finding the delusion women are still the majority. Couldn't agree more that over 30 should be happy with free food and your time particularly if you're in the top 20% of men and can make them cum. They asked for independence so I let um enjoy it. I play under 25 or just get a hooker. I don't need them to like me anymore!! That's freedom men. 30 plus is goodwill.

I'll even show my work. Most of it, face stays private. (21).

My 3 month pre paid subscription to seeking is ending in a couple days. I signed up for the site Sugar daddy Meet but haven't paid yet to message.

For those of you that have used both recently what's your thoughts.

I see a lot of the same faces but there are some different ones on Sugar daddy Meet. The cost of Sugar daddy Meet is also half of seeking too.

I will say the last 3 months on seeking has been a bust for me. All but 2 either flaked and no showed or message you once then never reply back. Plus there's still a ton of fakes on seeking still.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7211238]My 3 month pre paid subscription to seeking is ending in a couple days. I signed up for the site Sugar daddy Meet but haven't paid yet to message.

For those of you that have used both recently what's your thoughts.

I see a lot of the same faces but there are some different ones on Sugar daddy Meet. The cost of Sugar daddy Meet is also half of seeking too.

I will say the last 3 months on seeking has been a bust for me. All but 2 either flaked and no showed or message you once then never reply back. Plus there's still a ton of fakes on seeking still.[/QUOTE]Sugar baby sites are now simply Tinder these days. All the same until they the women pay to be on there. And they won't because the women that would pay don't need money for weed. LOL. They all think they can find the perfect man with mont. You may have money but these normies don't think that's enough. Social media has rotted the brain of young women. You do get luck every once and a while. But it's weak at this point. Let um be lonely and broke. The smart ones get new shoes and underwear. Dummies the majority.

[QUOTE=MauiGlory;7197092]Isn't $1500 a month's salary in Longview?

Agree with the other commentor that I doubt any SD in their right mind would take up a 50 yo cougar for a SB. I mean for free yes I'd service her. But if I'm only paying sugar money for young fit and "Certified Pre-Owned" condition SBs.

In my limited experience it seems that high mileage 50 year olds are desperate for a non-loser man to take an interest. I'd love to know who's paying her.[/QUOTE]Simping has no bounds. Sad.

[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7197001]She's only been a member of the site for 3 months. I doubt she's ever gotten anything at all.[/QUOTE]I had one that told me her friend was getting, wait for it, 35 k a month from some surgeon. LOL true story. I never verified if that loser was actually doing that. I doubt it. That's 400 k / yr. Haha If he did please don't cut me open. LOL.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7211238]My 3 month pre paid subscription to seeking is ending in a couple days. I signed up for the site Sugar daddy Meet but haven't paid yet to message.

For those of you that have used both recently what's your thoughts.

I see a lot of the same faces but there are some different ones on Sugar daddy Meet. The cost of Sugar daddy Meet is also half of seeking too.

I will say the last 3 months on seeking has been a bust for me. All but 2 either flaked and no showed or message you once then never reply back. Plus there's still a ton of fakes on seeking still.[/QUOTE]I tried sugardaddymeet a couple months ago and it wasn't very productive. Not near the ladies SA has and a bunch of scams from the ones who are on there. I didn't reup my subscription when it expired.

I talked to one girl on there who was late 20's, cute and acted friendly. We met, she was flirty and all seemed good and I got a hotel room. Once in the room, she looked at her phone and her babysitter said her daughter was sick and she had to go soon. And since she was so worried about her daughter, she couldn't focus on me to do anything for the half hour we were there. She did say she wouldn't charge me for the next time we got together but really needed the money this time. All I got was a couple kisses in the half hour and I reluctantly gave her 1/3 of the 300 she wanted.

LOL. What a b:tch! I think it was her scam from the get go because the night before she kept asking for money ahead of time and I insisted I wouldn't send money until we met. So she agreed to meet.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7186832]Uhhh, you're paying? I have been off of Seeking for the past month because I have been racking them up on Fetlife for free! It's a kink site; the people who are on there are looking to fulfill kinks, first and foremost. No one should be paying on that site. Now, that's not to say there aren't the ones on there who are selling it but there is far more opportunity to break away from the hobby and have some fun gratis.

I've met up with this 18 year old (varied and turning 19 next week) in Wenatchee who just wants to be bred. Like, that was literally what they were looking for, to be bred / filled in each hole. That one's "mistress" wants me to fuck her at Tubs and fill her up. Met a petite-something who wants to be bred and is coming from Portland for it in a week. Found an older lady from Vancouver who wants me and my buddy to DP her and fill her up this weekend. Found another older women who I met last week who is an absolute sub and is into free-use and I went over to her nice house in Renton to fill up each hole.

Don't pay LOL. I see guys old, young, slim to fat on there getting pussy because there is someone for everybody on there. I only come back to the hobby because it is only slightly easier to get pussy; on Fetlife, you have to hold more discussion to get to the meetup while on Seeking, I let the money do the talking for me.

So-Crates.[/QUOTE]I found a lot of yuck on FL. The hot ones want money like all the rest. My X SB was on there where she was pimped to couples with money. She was cute. I tried FL in PDX and tons of large Marge. I'm sure it's cause I'm so ugly and short. Haha. It's never ever free. Does the lion get his pride without a sacrifice? Again no smoke on the free puss, just saying. I do show my work from time to time.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;7210584]Anyone have any intel on her: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f6597a6-473e-4325-9ce4-4bc421a920cc[/URL].

She seems kind of wild.[/QUOTE]Crown tatt on her neck. Stripper locker room photo. Looks familiar but not sure from where (TNA maybe? Definite pro vibes, seriously doubt "open minded" is what you hope it means.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7210319]This one wants $500 for meet and greet with no play time. Said after meet and greet if things go well intimacy is a possibility on a second date with recent tests and everything covered.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/9fbca707873282e0[/URL][/QUOTE]She has a "secret admirer" on her profile (SIMP!) Guys go on Reddit and try not to puke when you read the responses of "SD" the the rate my profile post from ladies. It's game over. You wonder why you're never good enough for these low quality women, and let's face it, who the F would put a ring on any ho off seeking? Read the thirst filled responses. Men are down bad not all makes sense now. Don't give her 500 unless she's fing you. And this is sex work ladies. And you know it.

I've had a few that I've traded with on the site but haven't found what I'm looking for yet. I have a petite white girl and 2 petite young asian girls in my rotation right now.

Anyone open to sharing, trading or recommending any petite young asian girls?

[QUOTE=KickBoxing;7218703]I've had a few that I've traded with on the site but haven't found what I'm looking for yet. I have a petite white girl and 2 petite young asian girls in my rotation right now.

Anyone open to sharing, trading or recommending any petite young asian girls?[/QUOTE]What is the allowance range you play in.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7219558]What is the allowance range you play in.[/QUOTE]2-600 depending on the girl.

She unlocked her private photos and she's smoking hot. Has anyone had the pleasure?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/28ccc84c-74e3-4b53-ba74-726e7c7373be[/URL]

Does negotiating work? I realize I may have been paying a bit more by simply giving what was asked for. But that was when what was asked for was reasonable. 1 K is quoted now more than ever and doesn't include more than an hour or two. Was just quoted 2. 5 k this week for an evening with a 40+yo. WTF?