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Play it Safe
[QUOTE=Ocrealguy; 1496870]Friendly, I think you already know the answer to your question, it is risky, make that extremely risky. Probably one of the reasons it is even more apealing / exciting. If your thoughts were to 'test the waters' in the way we normally do in our hobby with a new provider I can almost guarantee you will be looking for your next new job before the day is done. I say this assuming that if your new company has the resources to provide this type of service, they most likely have a staffed and competent HR department, which undoubtably would take a dim view of the situation. This comes from someone who has 20 years of experience in management at a Fortune 500 company. HR folks like nothing more than to hang some dudes ass out on the line for inappropriate behavior.
On the other hand if you approach her as you would any other civilian female you have an interest in you should be fine. Keep in mind however that if the interest is not recipricol on her part it could make for uncomfortable encounters down the road. Test her interest level, say hello and smile, find a common interest and / or friends. While there is very little anyone can do for being interested in a coworker (there are numerous court cases where companies have tried to prohibit these relationships. And lost) there are lots of hot babes that aren't a masseuse at work.
Good luck. Play safely, its a mine field in the workplace nowadays.[/QUOTE]You of course need to play it safe. So ask for her phone number, and tell her you won't call her but will pass it along to your senior friends, if she is looking to make some out of office calls. If she asks USA or HX, then you know you have a winner.
You can find out where she works when she is not in your office, and schedule a massage there on your dime. Seriously, if she has an office, let me know the number and I will schedule an appointment with her and report back to you.
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[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1497070]You of course need to play it safe. So ask for her phone number, and tell her you won't call her but will pass it along to your senior friends, if she is looking to make some out of office calls. If she asks USA or HX, then you know you have a winner.
You can find out where she works when she is not in your office, and schedule a massage there on your dime. Seriously, if she has an office, let me know the number and I will schedule an appointment with her and report back to you.[/QUOTE]I will definitely take this approach and report back to you guys how it goes. As far as the company, its not huge by any means and the one HR person actually got me hired, so I didn't tink it'd cause such a backlash at me haha. The bosses are all pretty young like me so the second I even heard there was a masseuse I thought the might be mongers too.
It's ok though either way, I just found out Lake Forest is full of AMPs and I am now minutes away from most of them!
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Irvine
So I went to a place off Sky Park the other week. Really I went looking for some of my old haunts but the were all gone. I decided to go to one I had seen for a while. Walked in and there was just 1 gal there. Nice looking with D Bolt on's. They looked better than they felt. Found that out later. I pay for the half and strip and lay down. Same gal comes in and starts talking and rubbing. Nice massage so far. I give the reach on the ass and get a great response of her moving into my hand more. I think great here we go. She asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She says ok be right back. I think great condom and tissues on there way. There I go thinking. No condom she says when she comes back and she pulls out the old selifane. Wow This is not a good way to start. But I go ahead. She does ok and then she looks at me and says are you ready. I say no condom she says I have 1 outside. Go get it lady. Jeeze. Off she goes again and back with a condom. Alright here we go. She wants to start mission and I am fine with that. I want to switch to C. G. And she starts saying stuff. I then start to get a little upset and say to her It is my 30 min. Don't I get any say in this. She says fine but really there is no effort from her. So back to mission and I decide I want doggy. She says no way and I say fine give me my $1 back and I will be out. By this point I am starting to not hold up very well. She decides ok we will so I decide she is going to get a couple fingers in her star as well when I cum. I do my best and blow a good on and give her the 2 thumbs up at the same time just to make sure she understands. So she says she does not do that and I should pay more. I tell her to pay me because she was not worth it. Overall she was good looking but very bad attitude and very boring. I will not go again to that spot upstairs but hey Y. R. M. V.
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Irvine
Since my horrendously bad experience in Brea a couple months ago, I no longer pay the "Tip" in advance. I make it very clear I will pay them well, for good service. If they don't accept my position, I walk. This hobby is all about good service from the provider and what "normal fare", is expected on the menu, (Mish, RCG, CG 69, and Doggy). I let them know what I like, so If they're unable to acquiesce to most of my proclivities, then the sexual adventure part of the session is over. From that point, I expect either a full-on therapeutic treatment for the rest of the session, With appropriate standard gratuity, (15 dollars) or full refund.
Baggens.
[QUOTE=Rayle;1498415]So I went to a place off Sky Park the other week. Really I went looking for some of my old haunts but the were all gone. I decided to go to one I had seen for a while. Walked in and there was just 1 gal there. Nice looking with D Bolt on's. They looked better than they felt. Found that out later. I pay for the half and strip and lay down. Same gal comes in and starts talking and rubbing. Nice massage so far. I give the reach on the ass and get a great response of her moving into my hand more. I think great here we go. She asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She says ok be right back. I think great condom and tissues on there way. There I go thinking. No condom she says when she comes back and she pulls out the old selifane. Wow This is not a good way to start. But I go ahead. She does ok and then she looks at me and says are you ready. I say no condom she says I have 1 outside. Go get it lady. Jeeze. Off she goes again and back with a condom. Alright here we go. She wants to start mission and I am fine with that. I want to switch to C. G. And she starts saying stuff. I then start to get a little upset and say to her It is my 30 min. Don't I get any say in this. She says fine but really there is no effort from her. So back to mission and I decide I want doggy. She says no way and I say fine give me my $1 back and I will be out. By this point I am starting to not hold up very well. She decides ok we will so I decide she is going to get a couple fingers in her star as well when I cum. I do my best and blow a good on and give her the 2 thumbs up at the same time just to make sure she understands. So she says she does not do that and I should pay more. I tell her to pay me because she was not worth it. Overall she was good looking but very bad attitude and very boring. I will not go again to that spot upstairs but hey Y. R. M. V.[/QUOTE]
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Exactly as Baggens said. Soon as you let go of your benjies, you're not in the driver's seat anymore. Agree on what you're going to pay and what you expect up front. That's OK, but so as far as I'm concerned, it's service first, pay last, just like in a restaurant. If you order a steak and they bring you chicken feet or nothing at all, would you pay for it and tip the waiter too? I wouldn't. If service is really crap or far short of what was agreed to up front, I wouldn't pay a dime's worth of tip and wouldn't be shy about walking outa there and asking for a refund. Also, if you mention that you expect good service and she gives you a frown, like happened to me two weeks ago, that's your queue to get the hell out or switch girls. Every time I've disregarded my own rules (which is way too many times lately) I've walked out disappointed, with a frown, an empty wallet and kicked myself in the ass later.
What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.
[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens; 1498940]Since my horrendously bad experience in Brea a couple months ago, I no longer pay the "Tip" in advance. I make it very clear I will pay them well, for good service. If they don't accept my position, I walk. This hobby is all about good service from the provider and what "normal fare", is expected on the menu, (Mish, RCG, CG 69, and Doggy). I let them know what I like, so If they're unable to acquiesce to most of my proclivities, then the sexual adventure part of the session is over. From that point, I expect either a full-on therapeutic treatment for the rest of the session, With appropriate standard gratuity, (15 dollars) or full refund.
Baggens.[/QUOTE]
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Service in the old days
[QUOTE=Assaholic; 1499329]Exactly as Baggens said. Soon as you let go of your benjies, you're not in the driver's seat anymore. Agree on what you're going to pay and what you expect up front. That's OK, but so as far as I'm concerned, it's service first, pay last, just like in a restaurant. If you order a steak and they bring you chicken feet or nothing at all, would you pay for it and tip the waiter too? I wouldn't. If service is really crap or far short of what was agreed to up front, I wouldn't pay a dime's worth of tip and wouldn't be shy about walking outa there and asking for a refund. Also, if you mention that you expect good service and she gives you a frown, like happened to me two weeks ago, that's your queue to get the hell out or switch girls. Every time I've disregarded my own rules (which is way too many times lately) I've walked out disappointed, with a frown, an empty wallet and kicked myself in the ass later.
What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.[/QUOTE]Don't take this personally (well, take it personally) but maybe in the 80's you were a handsome man, with hair, no pot belly, all your teeth, etc.
The 70's were the best, as then I was a handsome man, and before aids. Always a GFE
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I tell you what it is, it's Helicopter Moms and a born sense of entitlement!
Baggens.
[QUOTE=Assaholic; 1499329]What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.
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Good points and kudos to you for reading between the lines. At least I don't have to worry about hair. Didn't have it then, still don't and am absolutely lovin' it. About pot belly-Well that's a depressing subject I'd rather not visit right now; (But hey, who needs a full head of hair and six pack abs to have a little fun after a hard week's work, right? Besides, have you seen these so called providers on BP? Some of them look like some creature out of a horror movie. Compared to them, setting aside gender, I'm a goddam GQ model for chissake, LOL.
Wish I had been around in the 70's. Sounds like memorable times.
[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1499592]Don't take this personally (well, take it personally) but maybe in the 80's you were a handsome man, with hair, no pot belly, all your teeth, etc.
The 70's were the best, as then I was a handsome man, and before aids. Always a GFE[/QUOTE]
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101 / One by One
Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.
Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.
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Meant Heavenly, not Angel. LOL.
[QUOTE=OCSwordsman; 1499820]Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.
Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OCSwordsman; 1499820]Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.
Yeah ever since sophia got jaded I kinda backed off the place. These is this one skinny older with super long hair thats not bad. I havnt seen any of the new ones. Guess I should go check it out again. See what they have now.
Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.[/QUOTE]So why do you hit angel foot spa? SH is in the same complex and they have some pvt rooms. Plus angel you don't get naked right? SH you take your clothes off. If I'm missing something msg me I guess. SH had hotty michelle but she recently left. But they still have jenny and tracey.
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Meant Heavenly Spa, not Angel. Just got them confused for a second, when I was typing since have been to both. And yes, can take clothes off in Heavenly with at least some, maybe most of the girls.
The legit one I was talking about is called One by One on Westminster. Started going there just because thru train the girls and many actually give really good massages for $15.
[QUOTE=Cash Value;1500182]So why do you hit angel foot spa? SH is in the same complex and they have some pvt rooms. Plus angel you don't get naked right? SH you take your clothes off. If I'm missing something msg me I guess. SH had hotty michelle but she recently left. But they still have jenny and tracey.[/QUOTE]
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Belle Vie
Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today. Read lots of reviews with varying results, so I've been a tad reluctant. I am not the kind of guy who likes getting shut out, even if it's just the first time, but my back has been stiff for a few days and after an early morning session down at San Onofre, I needed a massage. I therefore thought today would be a good time to get shut out if I had to, as long as I got a good massage in the bargain.
The girl at reception asked if I minded trying a girl on her first day there. Normally I don't like that much, but I thought she'd be easier to bs if the old "been here before" conversation happened. It did, and she was.
Really nice sweet Chinese girl from Bay area named Amy. She is not a model for sure, but she is cute, has a great personality that is both self-assured and sweet (giggly). Interesting combination. She's probably late 20's, short hair, nice "B" cups (which she doesn't like touched) and a rockin' little body. Gave a great massage, which is good because that's what I needed.
When the flip came, the conversation got a little strange. We both knew what we were talking about, but neither understood exactly what the other was saying. She asked what kind of tip I was planning on leaving which is a novel approach. I finally just took the towel covering Dangle Jr. And threw it on the floor and she was satisfied.
She continued with the massage, and eventually got around to the HE. She was skilled if a bit mechanical, and was a little surprised I took as long as I did (always do). She said she was just over-comfident in her abilities. She is definitely no rookie, and she knows where all the pleasure points are for sure. She doesn't mind if you play with her sweet little butt outside her clothes, but that's about it.
All in all, I really liked her and will definitely repeat at some point. She works Mondays and Tuesdays.
Saw another girl in the hall when I was leaving that is more what I'm used to seeing at parlors. Didn't get her name, but she was seriously hot: tall, long black hair, nasty look in her eye. May have to investigate.
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Belle Vie
Thought I'd chime in on Belle Vie, since I've been there a few times over the last six weeks, twice with Eva (not the same as once at Holiday) and then with a petite and very tight Vietnamese, whose name I've dropped from memory. My experience pretty much matches JD's. The massages are very good, and they prefer to do the full hour, which is fine and more professional in my opinion. Eva in particular was a pleasure to be rubbed by, especially the second time. In both cases and I suspect generally, you are not going to get their wrappings off, but a caress or two doesn't seem to bother them near the ending. I'll be going back when I need that particular service.
[QUOTE=Johnny Dangle; 1501250]Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today.
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[QUOTE=Fistfirst; 1501710]Thought I'd chime in on Belle Vie, since I've been there a few times over the last six weeks, twice with Eva (not the same as once at Holiday) and then with a petite and very tight Vietnamese, whose name I've dropped from memory. My experience pretty much matches JD's. The massages are very good, and they prefer to do the full hour, which is fine and more professional in my opinion. Eva in particular was a pleasure to be rubbed by, especially the second time. In both cases and I suspect generally, you are not going to get their wrappings off, but a caress or two doesn't seem to bother them near the ending. I'll be going back when I need that particular service.
[QUOTE=Johnny Dangle; 1501250]Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today.[/QUOTE]My plans for tonite.
On-Target Shooting range then massage at Belle Vie.