Bowery Wellness Center, Centreville, VA
Have been there twice. Once this past Spring and once in August. Was met at door by Kim, who was the only person in the parlor. Paid. 6 for half hour. No TS available. Massage was competent. On the flip, Kim asked where I had gone for massages before. After I mentioned the River Spa, Kim whispered that she would give me an HE, but not to tell anyone, since her boss did not allow it. HE was OK. Tipped her. 4 and left.
On the second trip I had Kim also; every thing was the same until the flip, when she refused to give the "NoVA" std HJ. Left her looking for a tip, which she did not find anywhere!
MM Wellness Franconia MIlage does vary
Based on some good reports in the summer, I have been planning to check out MM wellness. Finally got there this week.
Good location, up one flight of stairs. Greeted by a very friendly MMS. Asked her if she was the one doing the massage. She laughed and said "no no young girl. " While the MMS was well up there in years, I would have preferred her. I paid. 8 for the massage and put. 4 on the shelf for a tip. No discussion of the tip $ occurred. A 30 something small and pretty girl met me in the room. She was mostly business. No GFE to speak of. The TS was good not great and she indicated I should wash my own jewels.
The massage was good to very good, but little or no chat or connection. No otc or any touching. I hinted that I enjoyed the occasional HE and she responded "no HE. " I settled in to just enjoy the massage, which was ok. On the flip I asked her to do what she was comfortable with and that ended up with her massaging the eggs and me shifting the stick. She soon took charge and we were off the the races. While we got to the finish line, she seemed unhappy with the race. I thanked her for the nice massage and service. Outside I checked the time to find that she shorted me 10-15 minutes on the hour. I will not return. As is well known YMMV, mine did. As stated above, I suspect the MMS would have been better.
Tipping in advance has too many downsides, IMHO
[QUOTE=OldBoomer;2721891]Based on some good reports in the summer, I have been planning to check out MM wellness. Finally got there this week.
Good location, up one flight of stairs. Greeted by a very friendly MMS. Asked her if she was the one doing the massage. She laughed and said "no no young girl. " While the MMS was well up there in years, I would have preferred her. I paid. 8 for the massage and put. 4 on the shelf for a tip. No discussion of the tip $ occurred. A 30 something small and pretty girl met me in the room. She was mostly business. No GFE to speak of. The TS was good not great and she indicated I should wash my own jewels.
The massage was good to very good, but little or no chat or connection. No otc or any touching. I hinted that I enjoyed the occasional HE and she responded "no HE. " I settled in to just enjoy the massage, which was ok. On the flip I asked her to do what she was comfortable with and that ended up with her massaging the eggs and me shifting the stick. She soon took charge and we were off the the races. While we got to the finish line, she seemed unhappy with the race. I thanked her for the nice massage and service. Outside I checked the time to find that she shorted me 10-15 minutes on the hour. I will not return. As is well known YMMV, mine did. As stated above, I suspect the MMS would have been better.[/QUOTE]If you're visiting a place for the first time, or even if you've visited before but you're seeing a girl you haven't seen before, you really have no way to be sure you'll receive a HE at all. By dropping 40 on the shelf, you guaranteed her a 50% tip before she even laid a hand on you. If she's interested in providing good service and you end up getting the HE you wanted, then it's no big deal. But if she's only interested in making maximum $ for minimum effort, then you've just facilitated that outcome.
I never tip up front and 99.9% of the time it's never been an issue. On some occasions the girl will ask for the tip after the flip and after it's clear that we're negotiating how much she wants for her extra services. At that point there's no longer any mystery about whether you'll get a HJ or more, it's only about the price.
I can only recall a few times when a masseuse asked for the tip up front and I think I said something like "I tip after the massage" or "you take good care of me and I'll take good care of you" or something like that. When you think about it, would you tip for a restaurant meal before it was served? IMHO, letting the girl know she will get a tip that matches her service helps to give her incentive to perform. Of course, then it's up to the client not to be a cheapskate and tip hamburger prices after receiving a juicy steak dinner!
My best recommendation is to just pay the MMS the house fee and afterwards don't talk about $ at all unless the girl brings it up. If she asks before the massage, I would use the phrases above to let her know you don't play that game. If she keeps pushing, I would strongly consider asking to talk to MMS or even walking out. IMHO, if that's her attitude up front, it's probably not going to be a very good session anyway. If she waits until the flip and then starts the hard upsell, don't forget that you have the upper hand because you can always tell her you want massage only and no extras. Since she usually doesn't get any of the house fee, that should make her a bit more reasonable in her negotiations.
Good luck, stay safe, and always remember that it's your hard-earned $!
P.S. Did you get her name? It's always good to get the name of the masseuse if you have either a really good experience or one you'd like to avoid in the future. And getting the name helps out the forum members by letting them know who to see and who to steer clear of.
