Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.
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Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7159097]Well, Baby Nyan is all the way in LA so at that point I may as well stick to my plan to fly to Japan and film jgirls there in bulk. When offered by jgirls in Japan, video costs 10k yen or $67. Afterwards I can have a fantastic Japanese meal, do some sightseeing, meet a friend for dinner, and go to oppai pubs at night. At the pub they send me 3 girls one after the other to play with until I find a girl I like. Last time I did, I extended her for 3 hours. The entire day costs about $450. Japan is worth it for the sightseeing alone, this is just a perk.
I remember now, there was one jgirl I paid 400 for video.
Oh that's right, Elsa normally charged 500 for video but later dropped it to 400 since so few people took 500.
Speaking of video, it should be safe and fun for both. Keep your videos safely stored. I'm in all my videos, so I want them private too.
[B]Budget friendly alternatives[/B]
For Baby Nyan it's 440 + 500 = 940, and that's a lot. You could see Celine K / Daisy twice and still have enough money for lunch and a boba both days. You could see Jenny or Allie three times, bb included. Or even better, see Allie, Jenny, and Lime. Or Baby Sugar 2 hours. You know what, I think I will because each of these girls is guaranteed fun in my opinion.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Jenny2[/URL] Jenny 320
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Allie[/URL] Allie 320
[URL]https://www.cakdolls.cr/escort/lime-new-in-town/[/URL] Lime 300 / 350
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-sugar[/URL] Baby Sugar
Or you know what, next time I'm in Japan I can just go to soapland 4 times and use the leftover money each time for sushi lunch after the bang. The soapland girls at Kira Kira age-wise are in-between HYA and MILF, service-wise are in-between HYA and MILF. Not bad, no appointment needed you just walk in.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] [B]Kira Kira[/B], 200 for 70 minutes
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459[/URL] Kira Kira guide
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira website English, created 3 months after my visit and report
You'll notice I say 200 for 70 minutes, when my previous report said it cost only 169. That's because some guy kept writing guides about how to visit Kira Kira, and months later the shop actually raised their prices and made an English website for foreigners. They even hired more girls. Wild.
[B]The OG 500 video upcharge jgirl[/B]
Other than LA being a non-starter, the other problem is I don't know Baby Nyan. Maybe she's worth it, maybe she's not. It's possible. The only reason I saw Elsa was there was a ton of intel on her saying how good she was even without video. To this day, months after she left, people in multiple cities still use her as a metric against other jgirls. Saying this new jgirl is so good, she's almost as good as Elsa. Elsa was an S-tier service HYA.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7158001&highlight=elsa#post7158001[/URL] Almost as good as Elsa
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33082-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7157346&highlight=elsa#post7157346[/URL] Almost as good as Elsa
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7141119&highlight=elsa#post7141119[/URL] Elsa ATF
This hobby is a mental game, and FOMO (fear of missing out) is our greatest enemy. I can only film but 1% of the jgirls that pass through anyways. So why not film these two girls instead:
Oh look, I could film them both and throw in nuru. 200 + 200 + 100 = 500. It's a sign.
My point is there are so many other choices. That's probably why even Elsa couldn't make 500 video work, so she dropped it to 400. Do you know why the korgs in SD charge 300 or 320 hr, and Get9 staffs 100% 320 and 340 bb special girls? Competition. They are competing against each other, and also the thai org which is 300 hr and even 200 hh. Speaking of competition, knock knock it's Japan. Let me show you what you get in Japan with this 6 minute ad video showing Delivery Health:
[URL]https://www.img-bank.net/gingira/movie/attachmentFile/95/GINGIRA_NANASE6min%E5%A4%A7.mp4[/URL] [B]Gingira Delivery Health course video[/B][/QUOTE]$500 is just a crazy amount to drop on an unknown girl like that. Just like I'm sure you have, I'm met and filmed JAV stars for way less in Japan.
Every time I come back from Japan (or even Korea) I feel so awful paying more for less. I just got back but time to plan another trip LOL. Feel free to shoot any oppai pub recs as well.
Also looking in this thread is my billionth reminder to try and see B. Sugar again. If I strike out again maybe I'll try some of the newer talent.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7159406]I've heard other guys say that about Shani, too, but I haven't seen that side of her. What does she do?[/QUOTE]I don't know about "attitude" per se, but her young age seemed more apparent with how silly she was. Almost to the point of wasting time. Like, jokingly pretending to fall asleep while giving head.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7159079]Holy Sticker Shock Batman. Take a look at that video option upcharge.
Calling Download, what do you think?
https://get9irl.com/BabyNyan[/QUOTE]People are out of their minds paying 500 for recording. Japanese girls here typically charge 100 for recordings. It's pretty sad people are getting suckered into that BS.
Special announcement. Due to the LA forest fires, King Theoden has no choice but to send some HYA away as needed. A few to us in OC. But don't worry, we'll take good care of them.
[QUOTE=Jnemodoe21;7159550]$500 is just a crazy amount to drop on an unknown girl like that. Just like I'm sure you have, I'm met and filmed JAV stars for way less in Japan.
Every time I come back from Japan (or even Korea) I feel so awful paying more for less. I just got back but time to plan another trip LOL. Feel free to shoot any oppai pub recs as well.
Also looking in this thread is my billionth reminder to try and see B. Sugar again. If I strike out again maybe I'll try some of the newer talent.[/QUOTE]
For oppai pubs, if you can't speak Japanese go to Luxe in Shinjuku. It is 100% foreigner friendly and English only is okay. After some chat the girls will hop on you and if you ask them they will go topless and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. They send you 3 girls for 40 minutes for 6000/8000 yen ($38-$51). It is unbelievably cheap. You can extend your time but the price jumps, so instead you dip and go to the next oppai pub or just come back another day.
But if the novelty wears out, go to soapland which starts at 200 for 70 mins. Kira Kira is basically in-between HYA and MILF age, in-between HYA and MILF service. For 200, and next to awesome Japanese food. I once wrote a Mitsuwa food court guide. Well, I wrote a whole train station guide for Japan.
To go to any shop in Shinjuku either you go straight there yourself, or what I recommend is you go to Manzoku directly and they will escort you there. I've used Manzoku over 20 years. They will get you the best rate (6000 yen early bird), escort you to Luxe, and it guarantees you walk past touts and their scam bars. This is a reminder to just [B]keep walking past the Nigerian / black touts in Kabukicho and do not engage[/B], do this and you are perfectly safe. This is the only rule you ever need to follow! Japan is extremely safe other than that exception in the RLD.. Same goes for Chinese, Korean, or White touts who will take you to tourist traps, which are safer than scam bars but just a regular waste of money.
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL] Luxe website
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL] Leicester, if you know some Japanese
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/[/URL] Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
I know the Luxe website says "No. 1 Night Place" but no they're not. You could say they are the No. 1 oppai pub that allows foreigners, though! The other ones, you can probably get in with 2 years Japanese if you go early bird or drop into Manzoku. I won't explain it all here.
[I]I have reviewed every good oppai pub in Shinjuku and they're all you need to make out with 10-15 cute women each week. The girls are B-Tier to S-Tier, usually 20-25 years old. Out of 15 girls, maybe just 3 are Elsa level or higher. Meaning S-Tier or upper A-Tier (Daisy and Freesia are low S-Tier). It helps they hire the youngest girls possible by looks alone, which in Japan is basic common sense. What a country. Girls with talking skils but less looks work hostess clubs. Obviously there are a lot more B-Tier girls than A or S combined, but B-Tier is still beautiful. The few C-Tier girls that slip in soon get the clue and quit - they can't stay if they don't find regulars. So you can see why I love oppai pubs.
At an oppai pub each 40 minutes they send you 3 girls in a row, and you can keep a girl if you like her. I once kept a girl 3 hours.[/I]
If you have never been to Japan even once, see 'Getting laid on a layover'. You can do soapland on even a 10 hour layer with time to spare for lunch, provided it is morning to night when airport buses run.
By the way, if you go to the jgirl bars in LA that's cool no need to explain things to me. I've been to a few out of curiosity. I have just heard repeatedly that some guys are spending thousands or tens of thousands on jgirls and later having problems. Often over the years. It's just my opinion, but don't drop that kind of money on girls if you want something real. Was just trying to help, but sounds like you guys don't need it. You do you. Good luck.
A reminder that intel is the counter to rebrands. Rebrands are bad for everyone, and I think some bookers agree which is nice.
[QUOTE=Download X;7158460]That's the problem of "changing a girl's name and photo and then charging more for her". [B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. When you hide it, the complainers are actual paying customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
Excerpted from:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7159602&viewfull=1#post7159602[/URL] Thank you
Attached are 3 new banners from Leicester oppai pub. I recognize two. First photo girl on left was on some guys lap. He extended her repeatedly and even ordered champagne, complete with firecracker candles and clapping and chanting by the staff in unison in celebration. It was quite the impressive spectacle such that the girl on my lap and I turned to witness the scene. Something not in my budget, I thought. Then I turned back and resumed kissing my girl. Second photo girl on the right is Uta. I'm adding an old photo I saved. After introductions she started kissing me without me asking so I guess she didn't wnat to listen to any more of my story. Last photo is their new headliner girl. In Japanese clubs, the photos are real, customers expect it, and I've confirmed with my two eyes. But your chance of getting one particular girl are slim, but you can increase it by goign 8pm. If you show up past 10pm, I might be the early bird and have her seated next to me with repeated extensions. But don't worry, I'll take good care of her for you.
A poem about my first time.
[I]I was walking downtown Nagoya when things were slow. Even with limited Japanese, as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. The pamphlet attached shows the system, there is no mistake what goes on. I did exactly those things with exactly those girls. Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. Yes, you heard me right, $27. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get lfk.
After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Download X.[/I]
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7159784]For oppai pubs, if you can't speak Japanese go to Luxe in Shinjuku. It is 100% foreigner friendly and English only is okay. After some chat the girls will hop on you and if you ask them they will go topless and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. They send you 3 girls for 40 minutes for 6000/8000 yen ($38-$51). It is unbelievably cheap. You can extend your time but the price jumps, so instead you dip and go to the next oppai pub or just come back another day.
But if the novelty wears out, go to soapland which starts at 200 for 70 mins. Kira Kira is basically in-between HYA and MILF age, in-between HYA and MILF service. For 200, and next to awesome Japanese food. I once wrote a Mitsuwa food court guide. Well, I wrote a whole train station guide for Japan.[/QUOTE]Is everything on the menu at oppai pubs and soapland for non Japanese speaking tourists? Or is it just basically a topless bar with kissing and touching?
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159411]Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Thanks as always for the rebrand info from up north.
I usually put foot in mouth sometimes but I am going to say it. I will bring it if a girl is a legit 9 or 10. Also, once a girl had a video option like Barbie, I think that option will still be available YMMV even when it's no longer on the menu.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7159079]Holy Sticker Shock Batman. Take a look at that video option upcharge.
Calling Download, what do you think?
https://get9irl.com/BabyNyan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7158074]Baby Sugar. Skinny emo with lots of tats and non-stop oral diarrhea or Shani, CYA / HYA with a hot gymnast body with nice curves, abundant T&A, no tats. My complaint about Shani is that she still had acne last year when I saw her, and she had a bit of an attitude then, too. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I agree on the acne part. Though she seems to have more some times then other I imagine due to breakouts. So sometimes I feel less attracted since acne really bothers me. Regarding the attitude part, this is why I always put a YMMV disclaimer. I've seen her prob 10 times and have never had attitude once. Sessions get a little spicy and she usually let's me stay longer. IMO a great one to see. Do you have examples of the attitude? Maybe she was just being playful but there was a misunderstanding.
[QUOTE=Dewpsp;7159861]Is everything on the menu at oppai pubs and soapland for non Japanese speaking tourists? Or is it just basically a topless bar with kissing and touching?[/QUOTE]I always get exactly what locals get, it's only a question of getting in. It's a nuanced discussion of the best approach but you need to see ISG.
An oppai pub is supposed to be just a topless bar with kissing, touching, flirting. If you want sex, go soapland or Delivery Health. You wouldn't go to a maid cafe and star kissing the girls either, go to the right shop. Look at the guides for soapland on ISG. Or see the J-girl thread where it's more relevant with better links.
Saw Daisy recently. Big splurge but that view when hitting it from behind was worth it. Service is ok but she is definitely HYA.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7159406]I've heard other guys say that about Shani, too, but I haven't seen that side of her. What does she do?[/QUOTE]Perhaps it was a bad day for her, or we no longer had chemistry. I first saw her when she first started in LA and liked her tight, shapely, little gymnast body and cute face. She had that fresh eagerness that some newbies have. She seemed a bit jaded now, but that can happen. So, I won't say she is a bad call for everyone.
[QUOTE=Ky1234;7159985]Saw Daisy recently. Big splurge but that view when hitting it from behind was worth it. Service is ok but she is definitely HYA.[/QUOTE]
Definitely the view from behind is good, [B]Daisy[/B] even made sure we had good positioning in front of mirror, very active and good feedback. The way I describe her service is she is still learning but makes fantastic effort. HYA. I created a photo guide for my review in link. I want to emphasize that Daisy is the only premium rate girl I think is clearly justified. 80% of premium rate girls are not worth their higher rate even though they are worth seeing. This is a warning to people who aren't made of money. To put it exactly, there are [I]cheaper girls who are better than the premium rate girls[/I].
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER (photo guide)
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7152073&viewfull=1#post7152073[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER
Are there any 280 hh / 320 hr bb special girls in LA? There are in OC and SD. I must be taking crazy pills because some of these cheaper girls are better than girls charging 400 to 450 for bb. That's [B]40% more money[/B]. Yesterday they added a 600 hr girl, I guess bookers are calling her HYA Gyrui now instead of Baby Gyuri since there is already one. I normally pay 300 and 320 for HYA. The only reason I saw Daisy is several friends confirmed her for me. Use intel guys. I'm not going to toftt premium girls because as I said, most of them aren't even above average. One was a MILF, one was below average, and another was a heavily tattooed thick girl. I'm describing them as nicely as I can. Friends know exactly who I mean. Daisy deserves her rate, all the other girls don't.
I say this now because there are sudden price increases everywhere the last few days. 10-30 in many cases, with a few very expensive new girls. I'm surprised by LA prices now, as well as price increases by half the agencies in OC. So I will highlight the other half when possible. SD has not budged, there is too much competition. To clearly illustrate the gap in pricing, see the latest OC budget roster. I'm posting budget friendly rosters for OC from now on:
[QUOTE=Download X;7159977]Today, I'll attach San Diego [B]Allie[/B]'s better ad photo for the first time. People are driving down from LA to see her anyways (I would not recommend this unless you are in town anyways). Allie's ad photos as 'Mina' are much more accurate than her Get9 ad photos. It's based on her and if you take a notch down it's close. I held off on posting it for months and months because I'd rather guys decide on intel than an ad that's been PS'd up. But photos are all guys talk about it seems so here you go.
[B]Price Increases[/B]
Since I'm reducing my visits anyways, you guys are the ones voting with your wallets. A reminder that for budget friendly HYA with bb, search [B]Jenny[/B] in OC and [B]Allie[/B] in SD. They are [B]280 hh and 320 hr no upcharge bb[/B]. There are many other budget girls worth seeing depending on your specs and taste, but you need to research them.
[B]HYA BB Special[/B]
[B]Jenny[/B] - [B]HYA[/B]. No upcharge bb at 280 hh / 320 hr. Service queen in my opinion. Jenny is safest rec for 'normal' guys with a balance of looks and service. Photo accurate with PS on face, very petite, 20's, baby face, thin waist, nice ass, very round tits, dtf. Limited English, great attitude, other kgirls should copy her attitude. May unexpectedly squeeze 2 shots out of you, what a champ.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Jenny2[/URL] [B]Jenny[/B] Get9
[B]Allie[/B] - [B]HYA[/B], San Diego. No upcharge bb at 280 hh / 320 hr. Maybe 5'4", nice body, nice face, sassy, natural full tits about C cup, dark skin, maybe late 20's, enjoys sex. Dfk, balls licking. Very similar body to Ericka - not skinny or fat, she is completely normal size and proportions with a great body shape. Tits are wonderful to grab especially while standing, I hold on to them as she leads me to shower. Sometimes curses in mix of Korean and Chinese during sex, but almost no English so we use translator. Straight black hair to below the shoulder, soft skin that makes her wonderful to touch and hold.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Allie[/URL] [B]Allie[/B] Get9
I want to highlight SKP girls who are all budget friendly. Many have been reviewed extensively including by me, so I'll let you research them.
OC SKP Girls by price hh / hr (+40 msog) that have reviews
Ada 280 / 320 30s, full body, good attitude, good service, fantastic bbbj
Jiji 280 / 320 30s, B or C cup with great nipples, dark skin, great tits, service over looks
Sophia 280 / 320 40s and milfy, great d cups, service queen (TER 346662)
Vivian 290 / 340 (TER 400759)
SD SKP Girls by price hh / hr (+40 msog) that have reviews
Allie 280 / 320 S-Tier, looks over service
Krissy 280 / 340
Daniel 280 / 340
Amy 290 / 340 Important - not same as Viet Amy, both girls worth seeing but nipples are safe here
I think Ericka / Hazel is simply beautiful. But you'll notice she's almost next to Allie (and half-Thai Emily) and is 450 for bb whereas Allie is 320. That's [B]40% more money[/B].
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SBC Freesia and Daisy are both worth their rate, solid girls. The problem is guys thinking the other girls are like them in any way. Most of their girls are worth seeing at 300-350. Dahlia is mixed, she is good and still learning, good attitude and pussy, but 650 is too much. I think it's fine for her to charge what she wants, guys should just have accurate intel including is she "worth the rate". PLEASER reviews in the E section should now read like - [B]E: 450 hr 600 hh. Worth her rate.[/B] Only solution to overpricing. I don't mind paying more for a girl that deserves it to be clear.
In contrast, recent rebrands are not okay.
[QUOTE=Download X;7158460]There is a recent trend of changing a girl's name and photo and then charging a lot more for her.
They should just raise her rate and let people complain, but not walk in and get disappointed.
[B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
For those who don't know the significance, two examples. Multiple guys were walking in on Stephanie not realizing she was Ppomi, a girl I myself would see but must remind others that she is thick and heavily tattooed. Good to see her once but if a guy doesn't want to repeat her, don't trick them and also raise the price. That is not a fun time. Next example, Barbie changed to Douwoo and raised her rate from 350 to 400. After Boner called her out and I explained why it hurts the booker to do this, she did get changed back to Barbie and her rate dropped to 360. She is worth seeing, but changing her name still means guys who don't repeat end up seeing her by accident.
[QUOTE=Download X;7159602]Dear Boner,
I hope you are doing well. The Winter wasn't as cold as I expected, but I'm sorry to hear about the wildfires and hope you are safe.
I am writing to thank you this time about your earlier warning of Barbie's rebrand. I believe in our last correspondence you wrote and I quote "Douwoo = Barbie / Baby Peach / Baby Green". Your timely caution is greatly appreciated as is your wise counsel as always. I would not want to pay 400 just to unintentionally repeat a girl that I already saw at a much lower rate of 350, no matter how fine her bosoms may be or enraptured our kisses turn. As it turns out, she has since changed her name back to Barbie and dropped her rate to 360. Be it so. All is well, may you be in good health and have a pleasant year deep in good business.
Yours truly,
Boner just saved us 40 dollars and from walking in on another rebrand.[/QUOTE]
It's possible that people in LA simply have different feelings about money. For example, some people cannot be happy unless they fly business and spend more than they need to:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7160256&viewfull=1#post7160256[/URL] Only fly business
Do LA people just not care about money?
What did Baby Ravi do with Freesia? So many questions.
I heard Jisoo is going to OC next week and will raise her rate to $600 without BB. So she was 320 for a few days and grew to 350, now will be 600.