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[QUOTE=Sipping;6794276]I had been away from SA for a while but decided to dive in for just one month. It was interesting. My target demographic is Asians 22-26, so I'm starting at a disadvantage. I reached out to about 20 promising leads. Dead silence on most, clear scams on a few. Did a M&G with a very nice young lady; conversation was good but no sparks for me. She was pretty enough but the vibes weren't there, so didn't even get a price.

In a few weeks, pretty frustrated by the radio silence, pinged a couple of the more promising profiles again. In my last week on the site, got two responses.

The first just needed money right away; wanted to fuck immediately. 750. Red flags, but the pictures were good and I was horny. I thought I might have a desperate meth ho showing up but my brothers. She was the most put-together, clean, manicured, tight, well-dressed little Asian fuckdoll you could imagine. Tiny little girl, like one of those tiny JAV girls like Lala Kudou. Christ. Unfortunately, she did not know how to have sex. Thought it was about putting on a condom and pumping away for ten minutes. She could kiss though. My question for you: should I try to teach her how to fuck? Claims to be 22 yo.

The other response I had a M&G with tonight. We talked for an hour; smart, personable girl. Very, very pretty. I don't do numbers; I would say 8 but I have my Asian goggles on. Wants 800. I think she definitely knows how to fuck so will give it a try. She's also open to a threesome with my long term SB, so that's good.

I'm off the site again now.[/QUOTE]Lucky son of a gun. Save some ricepussy for the rest of us LOL. They are going extinct.

[QUOTE=StevenWalker;6794540]Lucky son of a gun. Save some ricepussy for the rest of us LOL. They are going extinct.[/QUOTE]ElegantDiva - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb405a18-6579-4cb8-af8e-5b15008c6bb4[/URL].

This one is an identical twin, I used to bang her sister. Perfectly hot little asian girls. Never met ElegantDiva, being identical, I assume they're about the same.

Very hot, zero personality, I got bored and tried banging ElegantDiva but I don't think they like to share.

[QUOTE=Sipping;6794276]I had been away from SA for a while but decided to dive in for just one month. It was interesting. My target demographic is Asians 22-26, so I'm starting at a disadvantage. I reached out to about 20 promising leads. Dead silence on most, clear scams on a few. Did a M&G with a very nice young lady; conversation was good but no sparks for me. She was pretty enough but the vibes weren't there, so didn't even get a price.

In a few weeks, pretty frustrated by the radio silence, pinged a couple of the more promising profiles again. In my last week on the site, got two responses.

The first just needed money right away; wanted to fuck immediately. 750. Red flags, but the pictures were good and I was horny. I thought I might have a desperate meth ho showing up but my brothers. She was the most put-together, clean, manicured, tight, well-dressed little Asian fuckdoll you could imagine. Tiny little girl, like one of those tiny JAV girls like Lala Kudou. Christ. Unfortunately, she did not know how to have sex. Thought it was about putting on a condom and pumping away for ten minutes. She could kiss though. My question for you: should I try to teach her how to fuck? Claims to be 22 yo.

The other response I had a M&G with tonight. We talked for an hour; smart, personable girl. Very, very pretty. I don't do numbers; I would say 8 but I have my Asian goggles on. Wants 800. I think she definitely knows how to fuck so will give it a try. She's also open to a threesome with my long term SB, so that's good.

I'm off the site again now.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. How much are the M&Gs setting you back?

BeautynBrains: She's back active on SA again. This is not her first profile. She had others but were deleted. She lives in San Luis Obispo and is currently in school studying for Aerospace engineering. Her looks are an 8 and her body is a 9. She has very nice natural D breasts. She's not only looking for a very high allowance but also an SD to pay off her student loans and debts. She's asking for 12 k monthly to meet up once a week for one overnight. She's condom only. Non-negotiable.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/41edd9de-fc8e-4db0-bfec-baad4f86ce02[/URL]

Katherin31: Fake / Scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/03df2ec9-7af5-4671-b865-229c0753397b[/URL]

Exploriana: Fake / Scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ed7bbba-83e0-40f2-af94-8f78d2900798[/URL]

AdorableMiss: Fake / Scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/00811fac-f15e-4f9f-b20b-de2a02e25bec[/URL]

KinDndGorgeous: Fake / Scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0d8717f-3370-4765-b8cb-75a3db4bfa12[/URL]

SweetWild: Fake / Scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8db2ec64-6f95-4610-830a-c0480b1d63ce[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;6794865]Thanks for the intel. How much are the M&Gs setting you back?[/QUOTE]Cost of a cocktail or a glass of wine. It's not so much that I'm philosophically opposed to paying for a M&G; it's more that girls who want to be paid for a M&G are naive about the scene and it'll be a pain in the ass to deal with them.

[QUOTE=Sipping;6795036]Cost of a cocktail or a glass of wine. It's not so much that I'm philosophically opposed to paying for a M&G; it's more that girls who want to be paid for a M&G are naive about the scene and it'll be a pain in the ass to deal with them.[/QUOTE]I see. I messaged a couple that proposed $100-200 for a M&G and I just assumed it was a scam or a hustle and didn't go through with it. Take the money then ghost type of thing. So you're saying a more legit (or at least less hardcore) baby will meet casually for lunch / drinks without demanding cash up front? Is that typical? Asking because my experience seems to be the opposite (they want cash just to meet).

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;6795138]I see. I messaged a couple that proposed $100-200 for a M&G and I just assumed it was a scam or a hustle and didn't go through with it. Take the money then ghost type of thing. So you're saying a more legit (or at least less hardcore) baby will meet casually for lunch / drinks without demanding cash up front? Is that typical? Asking because my experience seems to be the opposite (they want cash just to meet).[/QUOTE]You should definitely be able to find someone who will do a M&G with no expectations of getting paid. In my experience, these girls are mid-20's or older, are low volume (only 1 or 2 SDs at a time) and are mostly looking to supplement income from a full-time job. They want to get paid to fuck, but want to weed out weirdos, and are ideally looking for someone who they will actually enjoy fucking. So the M&G is in the interest of both parties.

I'm sure some of the girls who want cash for a M&G are scammers, but some of them might just be too inexperienced or naive to understand what they get out of the M&G. If you have the cash to spare, and you don't take getting "scammed" personally, you might get lucky.

Should spend time going through the user's manual of sugaring. It is an archive of the sugar dating thread on the Richmond VA pages. It is at the lower part of the page. It is only added to rarely. But the info there is golden. I contributed some of it myself. For whatever reason, Richmond acquired a status as a national post.

Just reading earlier threads here for a few days can be helpful as well.

I never agree to pay upfront to M&G. However, I always take a token gift to the M&G to give to a girl if it goes well and I, for example, get them into my car to talk turkey (and play a little slap and tickle). Typically, I use a Sephora or Victoria gift card, in the $25-40 range. This gives me a chance to say something flattering to a girl, such as "pretty girls always like."

Oh, and BTW, this if for guys who want a real arrangement w / a girl, YK, an ongoing relationship. If you just want to bang an escort, well, you already know how to handle that.

Carry on.

There's a lot of testosterone here, understandably. However, dissing other guys seems to be to be self-indictment. Anyone who persists in calling out 'simps' is my candidate for the classical mid-life crisis / bought a Porsche dude. I guess some people know facts about such situations (HG has a SB who seems to have one), but I think they are very rare. And that isn't what is driving up GPS. The blogs and reddit posts are likely more responsible.

There are truly wealthy guys out there sugaring. I just spent a bit of time w / a young Latina who had a 3 year relationship w / a foreign-origin businessman. He set her up in an apartment, got her a car and a dog. Took her on international travel. I am sure he banged her whenever he wanted. He just had money to burn. Of course, he ruined this girl for regular sugaring. As soon as I found out her back-story, I just told her I wasn't her match and left the scene. Anyone who has had that sort of experience would never be satisfied w / the conventional sugar arrangements most of us go for. If I had no warden, I could afford keeping a girl like that happy, but don't know that I would. IDK, maybe for a little while. This girl didn't present herself as the type. You seem some of these profiles on the site of girls dressed great. Those perhaps.

I had a M&G w / a middle-age massage therapist yesterday. She was excited about me, understandably. She was a kept woman (which I only realized after discussion) for a couple of years, but her SD hasn't banged her in 8 weeks. She understandably is concerned about this, is looking for someone new. When I asked her about her financial needs, her response was 'my bills are 6500/ mo'. That laid it out quite plainly. This one is in a heap of trouble. She is no beauty queen, and that isn't going to get better.

I guess some members here are new to SA and are wondering if they should pay for an M&G and if paying for an M&G is a scam. Let me explain and give you some insight into doing M&Gs. If the SBs are asking you for money for whatever reason (uber, gas money, deposit) before meeting you then it's 100% a scam. As soon as you send them your money they will ghost you and you will never hear from them again. Yes, it's most likely him that just scammed you. If the SB is asking for money after the M&G then it's not a scam. You're just paying for her time for a platonic date. Most of the time the SBs looking for allowance for a M&G are just looking for platonic dates. They might not be straightforward with you or tell you in advance that they are strictly looking for platonic dates. They might give you the impression or lure you to think they will get intimate with you but they will never do. The probability that a platonic SB will get intimate, unless agreed beforehand that they will, with you is less than 0. 1%. This is where the SD thinks it's a scam. It's not a scam because you're paying for her time. You have been simply misled to believe that they will get intimate with you. From my experience, all the SBs that are looking for intimate arrangements will do an M&G for no charge. The reason is that the allowance you give them should or will be greater than a platonic date. All the ones that ask for allowance for an M&G are usually just looking strictly for platonic dates or they are not attractive and no SD wants to have an intimate arrangement with them so they charge for their time to meet up.

Why is it so hard to convert a platonic SB to have intimacy? Here's the reason. If the SB is very attractive with looks in the 8-10 area, then she is charging $100-$500 for a platonic date. Let's assume she charges $100 for coffee, and $200 for lunch / dinner date. If she meets an SD for lunch, another in the afternoon for a quick coffee meet, and one at night for dinner. Then it is 100 + 200 + 200 = 500. She can make $500 a day without having to have sex with anyone so why would she want to have sex with you for a mere $500 ppm. I'm using 500 ppm as an example since most members here like to offer that. Let's say she charges 500 for dinner. Then it is 200 + 100 + 500 = 800. Yes, a very attractive girl in the 8-10 does get a lot of platonic date requests and SDs are willing to pay for it. There will always be an SD who will try to go on a few platonic dates with her and try to get intimate with her afterward. Most have tried and failed. Because they're making good money doing platonic there is no need to sleep with you for the extra money. Unless you're super good-looking or a model then you can probably sleep with her for free. If you're that good looking then you can sleep with any girl for free. Let's leave this out of the question for now. So if you want to have a chance of sleeping with her, you'll need to offer an allowance of $1500+ ppm or greater, or else she won't even consider it. Most SDs on here aren't going to offer 1500 ppm so that's why you're out of luck.

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Plus a handful of girls you are not to discuss on hear.

If any are attractive to SA members, reach out to them. They are all easy to set up / negotiate with. I'd prefer to not discuss more info. Have fun!

So how do you know all this? I mean, for a fact. It might be good reasoning, but if you have not had the experiences you related, then that is just so much masturbation. The whole premise of your diatribe is that a woman will only have sex for money, that she will never have sex because she wants to. Perhaps this *is* your exact experience. If so, that's too bad. But in fact, some women in the world, and some women on seeking, they want to have sex and get some other things out of interacting w / a man.

Here is some personal experience I have had w / girls who say specifically in their profiles they want a platonic relationship. They might not demand payment to M&G. They might just be saying that because they are tired of receiving a hundred messages a day that have stuff in them like "Room 1444, Hilton, $400/ hr", or " I need a BJ today, want to come over? That is the reality of a girl being on seeking today.

Those profiles stating 'platonic' are ripe for someone like me who actually has 'dated' a POT platonically a few times before we started an arrangement. Those lasted and were good relationships. And I tell girls who list platonic on their profiles exactly that. Some of them are emphatic that they never want to have sex w / someone they meet on the site, and I graciously excuse myself. But there are many who have engaged in all the same preamble that regular POTs would, with the expectation that eventually we will end up in the FC together. They just don't want it to feel like a hooker.

Your way is not the only way arrangements work.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6796328]So how do you know all this? I mean, for a fact. It might be good reasoning, but if you have not had the experiences you related, then that is just so much masturbation. The whole premise of your diatribe is that a woman will only have sex for money, that she will never have sex because she wants to. Perhaps this *is* your exact experience. If so, that's too bad. But in fact, some women in the world, and some women on seeking, they want to have sex and get some other things out of interacting w / a man.

Here is some personal experience I have had w / girls who say specifically in their profiles they want a platonic relationship. They might not demand payment to M&G. They might just be saying that because they are tired of receiving a hundred messages a day that have stuff in them like "Room 1444, Hilton, $400/ hr", or " I need a BJ today, want to come over? That is the reality of a girl being on seeking today.

Those profiles stating 'platonic' are ripe for someone like me who actually has 'dated' a POT platonically a few times before we started an arrangement. Those lasted and were good relationships. And I tell girls who list platonic on their profiles exactly that. Some of them are emphatic that they never want to have sex w / someone they meet on the site, and I graciously excuse myself. But there are many who have engaged in all the same preamble that regular POTs would, with the expectation that eventually we will end up in the FC together. They just don't want it to feel like a hooker.

Your way is not the only way arrangements work.[/QUOTE]My explanation of course does not cover all the possible scenarios out there and the different types of SBs. Cases for SBs with looks in the 5-7 area can or are different. Just curious, did you have to pay for the platonic dates or not? I'm guessing not. If not then it doesn't fall inside the scenario in my explanation.

You should not limit yourself too much in a search for SBs by geography. It is quite common that girls do not list their exact locations on their profiles. You can understand that just from the internet safety perspective. However, in our area, I also think a lot of girls list Beverly Hills, Newport Beach, and Laguna Beach because that is where they think the rich guys they want to snag are. I once had one POT who listed Newport but was really in Temecula. That was a gross offense, but other, less fanciful fibs are out there too. There are lots of reasons this can matter. My IG model has an apartment in LA, I live in OC, but I meet her in the IE where I sometimes see a client and she has a GF's house to use.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ebcba4bf-7835-48ca-87cb-c26d64a0a1d9[/URL]

Any reports on her?