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[QUOTE=RogerOver;3359463]The ignore list. Used it once he started dropping me PMs. FF is such a weird douche. I'll bet he has tights and a cape hanging in his closet.[/QUOTE]A girl at the center of his "attention" has told me stories that require a truckload of popcorn to get through.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3359463]The ignore list. Used it once he started dropping me PMs. FF is such a weird douche. I'll bet he has tights and a cape hanging in his closet.[/QUOTE]I was going to send you a good morning PM everyday just to say hello, because I love you so much. I sure hope someone quotes this so you can read it. Oh, wait you can read it before you log on.
[QUOTE=ItsTimeToEat;3359573]A girl at the center of his "attention" has told me stories that require a truckload of popcorn to get through.[/QUOTE]We should share stories. I can bet you I "Best" her stories any day of the week. Besides she's an H addict and they are great at telling stories, that's how they survive. I sure hope you buttered the popcorn before the two of you partook because I can guarantee you someone else did!
This dude is out of my shit.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3360259]We should share stories. I can bet you I "Best" her stories any day of the week. Besides she's an H addict and they are great at telling stories, that's how they survive. I sure hope you buttered the popcorn before the two of you partook because I can guarantee you someone else did![/QUOTE]Snowball much?
[QUOTE=ByronDee;3357717]Good intel, I have seen my share of some of them. Keep in mind Fellas those are their list prices, some of these girls come down off their high horses with a little bit of sweet negotiation and charm. My specialty. LOL.[/QUOTE]When you tell us all about how amazing your sugar game is going (which I guess is useful or interesting to a few guys), you have never mentioned that a fair share of the girls are pro SB. I. E. Basically just hookers. Not even broadly hooker-like (per A2's frustration). But actually hookers with lots of clients who are working a different angle. Not surprising (nobody talks that much bullshit when they are truly having that good of a time, because they are too busy having such a good time). But I think those guys who love your stories might have been taking you at your word.
You're like these idiot hookers on FB talking about. Repeatedly and very publicly insisting. They are in solid ride or die relationships. All the while sucking dick for money. Sure.
[QUOTE=ItsTimeToEat;3360418]Snowball much?[/QUOTE]That's fucking funny.
Agree with A2 - There was a piece about this topic on 60 minutes. They showed brain images of addicts vs. Normal people. The brain chemistry literally changes and the way signals are processed, are very different in seasoned addicts. It bypasess the logical area and goes straight to decision mode (fight or flight kinda thing but not exactly that). Thus, its not a choice at all. It's physiology that makes them helpless after a while. Its a long long road back to normal physiology and in some cases, impossible! But don't take my word for it, just google that episode for fully accurate information.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3359336]I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ItsTimeToEat;3360418]Snowball much?[/QUOTE]On your next visit when you think "It's Time To Eat" you might find yourself as an unwilling cuckhold. She loves dancing in the rain without a raincoat with special friends, especially right after her fix. Plus you never know when the BF last had her. I suggest you bring douche with your $.
[QUOTE=ChickaAmante;3360475]Agree with A2 - There was a piece about this topic on 60 minutes. They showed brain images of addicts vs. Normal people. The brain chemistry literally changes and the way signals are processed, are very different in seasoned addicts. It bypasess the logical area and goes straight to decision mode (fight or flight kinda thing but not exactly that). Thus, its not a choice at all. It's physiology that makes them helpless after a while. Its a long long road back to normal physiology and in some cases, impossible! But don't take my word for it, just google that episode for fully accurate information.[/QUOTE]Its not one answer for all addicts. Some, in fact most addicts that finally get off their drug of choice do it overtime without treatment. But this is not for all. It is different for all. I've been involved in this area for over 40 years now and it is different. An addict knows how it affects them and so they sometimes assume its how it is with all addicts. But not so. I've seen cases from every extreme. I've seen people who engaged in drugs over long periods and never got addicted at all. Granted that is rare but I've seen it. And I've seen addicts who got addicted literally from the first use and no matter how much they tried they kept going back to the drug. They had no control. So yes, your statement about some addicts and the brain physiology can be true. But certainly not for all and most likely not for most. That same physiology can be true for any long term use of any drug. Some do and can make the "choice" to get off the drug that has them. Some addicts find this hard to believe as it isn't how it is with them so for that group of addicts, yes the "choice" or "will power" is not an option. In my 40 years in this area I have found that once again, this isn't necessarily the norm. Addicts can, and have, made the successful choice to stop doing their drug of choice on their own. It wasn't easy, but they did it. Others can not do it.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3360444]When you tell us all about how amazing your sugar game is going (which I guess is useful or interesting to a few guys), you have never mentioned that a fair share of the girls are pro SB. I. E. Basically just hookers. Not even broadly hooker-like (per A2's frustration). But actually hookers with lots of clients who are working a different angle. Not surprising (nobody talks that much bullshit when they are truly having that good of a time, because they are too busy having such a good time). But I think those guys who love your stories might have been taking you at your word.
You're like these idiot hookers on FB talking about. Repeatedly and very publicly insisting. They are in solid ride or die relationships. All the while sucking dick for money. Sure.[/QUOTE]Of course they are hookers. There's a financial transaction for pussy. Who's disputing that?
[QUOTE=Admin2;3351159]Why do people say "I'm not going to argue with you" literally while they are arguing.
It's like guys who say "No offense intended" when CLEARLY offense was intended and it's just as clear they lack the intelligence and imagination to be sarcastic.
I don't understand this.
A2.[/QUOTE]There's a great saying. [I]"[b]nothing someone says before the word "but" really counts"[/b][/I].
It's absolutely true.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3359336]I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.[/QUOTE]I only know what I have heard and experienced first hand. Besides hitting rock bottom or the pain of using becoming greater than the pain of being sober, what is your experience for the reason for change?
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3360900]I only know what I have heard and experienced first hand. Besides hitting rock bottom or the pain of using becoming greater than the pain of being sober, what is your experience for the reason for change?[/QUOTE]I think it varies from person to person. Probably the best I've ever heard it put came from a guy who recognized me as an addict long before anybody else did. He said that when the pain or cost of a behavior (doesn't matter the behavior) gets greater than the benefit or pleasure of a behavior than there is room for change. He didn't say people would, he said there was room for it.
Without getting to "preachy" I personally think that there is also an element of something that some people call grace. I struggle with that because then it means that not anybody can do it and I think that anybody can so I don't really know.
I do know that it there is a big element of "want" involved. People got to want it, they got to want it bad, they got to want it more than dope but I don't think that happens on the same level as choice. It's not something that one comes to through logic nor reason, it's a visceral thing. It's emotional, it's mental, it's "spiritual" you got to have a hunger for a different life. You got to be willing to sacrifice and suffer. You got to be willing to say (again it's not really conscience, it's deeper) "I'll do what it takes," not "I'll do what I can. ".
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3360886]There's a great saying. [I]"[b]nothing someone says before the word "but" really counts"[/b][/I].
It's absolutely true. [/QUOTE]I've always found pithy sayings which ignore nuance and context in favor of comforting absolutes to be the domain of folksy idiots, but you might have a point.
Guys like blowjobs, but sometimes they like pussy. So they absolutely don't like blowjobs. Makes sense.