Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Well, you guys may as well pack up and quit.

However, going to PM only is, in my opinion, just as stupid. If you don't really know who's on the other side of a pseudonym, then it's just as likely a cop as someone else. You don't know, so why not be totally paranoid and just assume EVERYONE else here is a cop? After all, that's the only way for you to be safe. [/QUOTE]


If they don't have some sort of history posting results in the years past I don't respond. If you check someone else's history of post you'll know exactly who to talk to!

I agree this forum is not the only source that LE utilizes. Why make it easy? So they can spend more time eating doughnuts!

They don't need this site to know what's going on. But it sure helps in getting a better success (for them, anyway) rate. Helps getting a warrant signed, too.

The cops on here are senior members, with a plenty of posts. They are indistinguishable from the "true" senior members. Some of them very likely partake for a while before deciding to make a move.

I guaran-damn-tee it.

[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Well, you guys may as well pack up and quit. [/QUOTE]

I probably should go back and read some of my old posts. I try to be discreet when appropriate. Providers that advertise on CL, BP and even on our Forum are not hiding anything from Leo. Some try to use "codes" like "roses" and "lollipops" and some of us talk like we are having dreams. This does not buy anyone any legal protection to talk in code and I feel less inclined to have to be discreet when talking on the Forum (with a few exceptions) about these ladies. After all they put themselves out there for all to see, including Leo.

AMPs on the other hand are trying to stay below the radar screen and I don't think its appropriate to give too much detail. I've seen cases where our discussions have caused people to get fired for being too nice to us. I would even suspect information posted by those on the Forum has even helped Leo in their planning. AMP providers don't put it everyone's face and I try to respect that.

Even the SW community are out on the street being obvious and there is nothing we are going to say that is going to put them at anymore risk than they already take.

I share with trusted Senior Members in PM's and I've read their posts and talked to them enough to know that aren't tied to Leo. My sense of the "hunt" is well-developed and I can pick out the good ones pretty easily. Just because someone is a Senior Member, doesn't qualify them for any special treatment, they have to earn it over time and I hope I've earned the trust of others. We run into freaks on this Forum from time to time as well and I really hope Leo takes note. Most of us just want a fun, safe hobby and a chance to spread our love around!

I try to share some intel publicly to help others learn about our great town, but there is a whole different exchange that occurs in PM's and I think that is just smart and appropriate.

Just my two cents.

WOF

Since I no these two massage parlors are in the tourist distrit. I wonder are their any kind of investagatin going on with them either. I know they are both run by the same spanish women and there has been a couple of arrest there in the pass including unlicensed bodywork. I know you can get just about anything at them 2 places. Looks like everyone should be staying out of the toorist areas for awile. Just cool hit for while.

I suppose if there is any good news is that none of us are listed in the news report as having been arrested. In fact it looks like they only got the therapists.

Gentleman 100 - if you go to the orange county corrections website and punch in Cui and Huang (the other two don't show up) you'll see their booking record. The big charge I guess is the RICO charge.

Hey MBI - if you guys keep this up the MP business is going to need a congressional bailout. Doesn't it make more sense to let the willing participants contribute to their livelihood? Just a thought.

Let's be careful out there!

Don't be naive.

There is nothing on this site that LEO doesn't already know.

To think that we can figure out where there is action but the police cannot do the same without our information is the height of arrogance.

It is their FULL TIME JOB! And when they go home, a colleague takes over and reports back to them what was learned while they were sleeping.

They have the ability to run background checks, credit checks, arrest reports, use wiretaps, pay witnesses our tax dollars for information, and a whole lot more.

If any of us had all that time and all of those resources, we would surely know a hell of a lot more than we do now, wouldn't we?

Obviously the police know a whole lot more than any monger on this board does, and much sooner.

There was a big AMP bust in Orlando a few years back. I went through every AMP post on this board over the previous year and found that less than 5% of the AMPs that were busted were ever mentioned on this board.

The police certainly do read this board. It is purely for pleasure, not business.

There is no point to witholding reports.

Don't be naive.

DB

All the respected big names coming out of the woodwork on this one. That's what I like about the Forum. Wisdom and differing opinions!

WOF

[url]http://www.wesh.com/news/18251820/detail.html[/url]

I am sure most of you read or heard about the "Men In Black" raid on Idrive yesterday.

Be Safe

BB

[QUOTE=Bklyn Born][url]http://www.wesh.com/news/18251820/detail.html[/url]

I am sure most of you read or heard about the "Men In Black" raid on Idrive yesterday.

Be Safe

BB[/QUOTE]Wow. That's a shame. I'm not sure there was any more on offer there than the services that make you feel happy when you leave. The scary thing is that I have recommended that place (and been there a few times myself).

As some of you know, I am not a permanent resident in Florida and will be going back overseas today. I'll be back in May 2009 for a couple of months and hopefully things may have settled down again by then.

Take it easy guys and have a great Xmas and 2009!

[QUOTE=A John]If they don't have some sort of history posting results in the years past I don't respond. If you check someone else's history of post you'll know exactly who to talk to!

I agree this forum is not the only source that LE utilizes. Why make it easy? So they can spend more time eating doughnuts![/QUOTE]


Do you honestly believe that cops would not post a report in order to gain your trust, if they felt that doing so would advance their investigation? Cops lie. Hell, some of them don't even have to lie. They take our tax dollars and go get a few trips to a massage parlor to see what happens. If they get a happy ending, it's in the line of duty.

Your criteria for trust (post history) is pretty weak if your objective is to hide information from the cops. Hell, you just told them EXACTLY what they need to do in order to get information from you.

Not only will I agree to answer questions, I will insist on a lie detector test. There is not a better way to make money than to get arrested when you have done nothing wrong.

What amazes me candidly, is that most cops can find their way to work in the morning. When 10 of them show up for a fender bender (except in Pine Hills, of course) I just assume they got lost.

Has anyone seen Sarina or heard anything good/bad about her? I'd like to see her, but cannot find any reports on her. She doesn't advertise much, but her BP ad is:

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/such_a_dreary_day_let_me_give_you_my_sarina_s_sensual_full_bodyrub_down_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1191520[/url]

I think that if the government can spend over $400K of our money on a lavish European trip where I'm sure someone got laid at my expense, then the least they can do is leave us alone to spend whatever we want on our own "trips".

"The business development trip to London, Paris, St. Petersburg and Madrid was supposed to cost taxpayers $255,000. The actual tab was far higher — in excess of $430,000, the Sun Sentinel found in a detailed review of the July trip's costs." [url]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-flgovtrip07sbdec07,0,5721620.story[/url]


[QUOTE=Tex Cobb]It's our government doing harm to people who've done no harm.[/QUOTE]

Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.

[QUOTE=Putt Putt]Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.[/QUOTE]

Call me Naive.

[QUOTE=Putt Putt]Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]
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Thanks a lot Putt Putt,

Now for those of you who don't believe what I've been saying sense September 2006 this web site Putt Putt it has provided tells it all. I believe the quote goes something like this "police say they have used this web site to take down this spa"

I'm not saying they only used this site. They have an abundance of options, why should we make their job easier? This site on the open forum tells them exactly how to carry themselves upon entry where and how to place the tip, Shower bags, and even what to say. What more wood you need.

It's just my belief that reading a member's past posts and feedback they may have gotten gives me a clear indication of who I can PM my encounters to. There are many senior members here in the Washington D.C. area who can tell you how are declined in AMP`s and quality of the ladies has fell upon us since 2006.

I know some of you may say stick to your jokes AJ, but I use PM frequently and receive many PM`s to help me with new talent. Post openly if you want I just think we're shooting ourselves in the foot with the open forum.

[QUOTE=Lrpilot]Has anyone seen Sarina or heard anything good/bad about her? I'd like to see her, but cannot find any reports on her. She doesn't advertise much, but her BP ad is:

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/such_a_dreary_day_let_me_give_you_my_sarina_s_sensual_full_bodyrub_down_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1191520[/url][/QUOTE]

Search the forum. At least on person has commented. It may been in CL category. I have heard she is decent.

I am new here. Seen this site on the news.

I see Lynn from longwood. OW, Add reads, I'll do the work, the elixi.

OK, If you like older, with that library look, huge breast, nice suckable nipples, see Lynn. She is a little overweight, but has a sexy voice and will let you play. Great ending.

[QUOTE=Putt Putt]Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.[/QUOTE]

I ask once again, what's changed? What's the point of the site if you guys stop talking? Personally, I don't care if you do. Hell, there are some of you that I really do wish would just completely disappear from the site, but that's only because I get sick and tired of the "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO" crap from a few of you.

If you know that cops are here (and now you have hyperbolic video evidence) and you're afraid of them finding out information, then shut the fuck up and go away. This site, and others like them, do not operate without public comment. If you think that going to PM information only is going to prevent you from leaking information to the cops, then you're just deluding yourself. Even if you claim some ESP to detect cops, as ET often does, that does not prevent others from stupidly disseminating information you shared with them via PM.

So go ahead, quit. Hang it up. Leave the site. That's the only option you truly have to achieve your stated goals. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. Bye.

If anyone doubts the LE don't use a site like this for help in locating issues then your fooling yourselves. Isn't it easier for them to click a mouse and then send someone end to make the bust. Its elementary! Personally the guys on this site are doing LE a favor by putting in the miles and coin and so forth.

Did you hear of any Hobbyist getting arrested? Nope! They didn't care about them they wanted the owner and the women.

So we just keep posting and having a blast and when they raid the next MP another one is just going to open up somewhere else. Its the nature of the game and LE knows that.

Happy Hunting..



[QUOTE=Putt Putt]Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.

[url]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US[/url]

Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=R Consultant]

Did you hear of any Hobbyist getting arrested? Nope! They didn't care about them they wanted the owner and the women.

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Why should they arrest us? We're doing all the investigative work for them and they collect a paycheck.

I'm with you guys. I want to get paid to go see these ladies. I have been to several AMP's and most are very friendly. I have also visited this amp that was busted. The ladies are sweethearts?

Do you thing they will be able to open up again or just move elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Why should they arrest us? We're doing all the investigative work for them and they collect a paycheck.[/QUOTE]

I just went to a great place Monday night and now afraid to post a review. Maybe if I post "AoT" is a great spot still is enough for those who matter.

"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better than average staff. Including the MMSN. Please don't ask me for details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location" Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!

NMJ

Some guys, for as smart as they think they are and also would like to have others believe, are really pretty stupid. Dare I say idiot again?

I started the Real Deal thread for a reason. And, I spelled out the criteria. Nowhere in the criteria did it say you need to list any acronyms that are often bantered about.

Guys who feel the need to post graphic reviews just don't get it. Guys who feel they need them, just don't get it. Learn how to treat women with respect, shower, be nice, in fact be the boyfriend she wished she had, and you will get it.

Too many guys look at women in this business as machines. They see a graphic review and expect that they should be treated the same way. Wrong.

I am a big boy. If a reliable member of this board posts that he has seen someone and would see them again, then they are someone worth considering. Little boys feel the need to "share" all the details of their time with a woman. Grow up already. We are not sophomores in High School anymore.

BTW, I have met enough LEOs over the years to know they are not very bright. In fact, I know a lot of bright people and not one LEO among them. Someone running to their defense every ten minutes makes me wonder about their motivation. Defend them somewhere else. Maybe at your next policeman's ball?

[QUOTE=A John] There are many senior members here in the Washington D.C. area who can tell you how are declined in AMP`s and quality of the ladies has fell upon us since 2006.
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I don't know about 2006 in D.C. but you gotta love that 14K Spa at 14th and K Street right now. My favorite stop when I'm doing business in D.C. Stop by some day and tell the ladies Worlds of Fun sent you! Can't think of anything that is not on the menu.

WOF

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Some guys, for as smart as they think they are and also would like to have others believe, are really pretty stupid. Dare I say idiot again?

I started the Real Deal thread for a reason. And, I spelled out the criteria. Nowhere in the criteria did it say you need to list any acronyms that are often bantered about.

Guys who feel the need to post graphic reviews just don't get it. Guys who feel they need them, just don't get it. Learn how to treat women with respect, shower, be nice, in fact be the boyfriend she wished she had, and you will get it.

Too many guys look at women in this business as machines. They see a graphic review and expect that they should be treated the same way. Wrong.

I am a big boy. If a reliable member of this board posts that he has seen someone and would see them again, then they are someone worth considering. Little boys feel the need to "share" all the details of their time with a woman. Grow up already. We are not sophomores in High School anymore.

BTW, I have met enough LEOs over the years to know they are not very bright. In fact, I know a lot of bright people and not one LEO among them. Someone running to their defense every ten minutes makes me wonder about their motivation. Defend them somewhere else. Maybe at your next policeman's ball?[/QUOTE]

I really love it when you come here to insult everyone else and hint at what a genius you are. Really, this is better than anything on TV.

"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better tnan average staff. Including the MMSN. The customer base was study and loyal.

Please don't ask me for any details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location"

Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!

NMJ

[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]I really love it when you come here to insult everyone else and hint at what a genius you are. Really, this is better than anything on TV.[/QUOTE]

I did not insult "Everyone."

Personally, I thought Exec Talent`s post was right on target.

I no opinions are like A- holes every body has got one.

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Not that I am perfect, I also believe in being nice. I've received so many more rewards.

[QUOTE=A John]Personally, I thought Exec Talent`s post was right on target.[/QUOTE]

I agree ET is usually right on target. He tells it like it is and generally doesn't hold anything back. I've never felt insulted by anything he ever says. He also knows how to treat a lady from what I've heard and read. I'm thinking those who feel insulted probably have found a shoe that fits? Those with paper thin skins should probably not play in our game.

WOF

The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.

[QUOTE=Snake12]The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.[/QUOTE]

I have brought up this issue before. Most of these arrests are for giving massages without a license. They go in with ski masks and tear up the place and hype it as prostitution and racketeering. It is all about intimidation. Intimidation of the AMPs and intimidation of the customers. I wouldn't be surprised if they waterboarded a few of the ladies when they had them in custody!

Most escorts who service Orange country do not know of all the local ordinances with which they have to comply. Do you know it is against a local ordinance to visit someone in their hotel room without stopping and registering at the hotel desk? That is what they charged a friend mine with.

The whole idea is to get the AMPs to go away. If they scare the customers off, and they have no business, that will work too. That was why this web site was mentioned. (It was not for me to say, I told you so). MBI wants us to know we are being watched.

BOO!

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I have brought up this issue before. Most of these arrests are for giving massages without a license. They go in with ski masks and tear up the place and hype it as prostitution and racketeering. It is all about intimidation. Intimidation of the AMPs and intimidation of the customers. I wouldn't be surprised if they waterboarded a few of the ladies when they had them in custody!

Most escorts who service Orange country do not know of all the local ordinances with which they have to comply. Do you know it is against a local ordinance to visit someone in their hotel room without stopping and registering at the hotel desk? That is what they charged a friend mine with.

The whole idea is to get the AMPs to go away. If they scare the customers off, and they have no business, that will work too. That was why this web site was mentioned. (It was not for me to say, I told you so). MBI wants us to know we are being watched.
BOO![/QUOTE]

But then the worthless goons who work there wouldn't be able to get their rocks off by intimidating a few tiny Korean ladies who are trying to make a little money giving massages with HE's. What a waste of taxpayer money!

[QUOTE=Snake12]The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.[/QUOTE]

We all know Leo uses this site to help with their activities. Anyone who feels otherwise has their head in the sand or is just plain naive. Many studies show that the average IQ of a Law Enforcement Officer is below the average population and they need all the help they can get.

Turn about is fair game. There are a number of public domain websites that I use to improve my odds of hunting by tracking Leo's activities. Leo is very helpful in that regard. Snake mentioned one of them in his last post. When you try to predict the future performance of an investment portfolio, you sometimes have to look at past performance to improve your odds of success. I have found this also to be true in mongering. Sometimes even spreading a little false information can be entertaining. You can sometimes train Leo to jump through hoops on command like a dog. But never try to publicly embarrass them. That is just plain stupid and will come back to bite you.

To answer Snake's question. I saw two of them on that site listed under prostitution, entering a place of prostitution and RICO. The third lady did not have the RICO charge.

WOF

Yeah, they want to take all the fun away, from drugs to sex. Not a free country! lol

[QUOTE=Tex Cobb]It's our government doing harm to people who've done no harm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Not My Job]"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better tnan average staff. Including the MMSN. The customer base was study and loyal.

Please don't ask me for any details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location"

Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!

NMJ[/QUOTE]Thank you for providing a preview of the kind of useful information we can expect to find on this board while everyone freaks out, despite that nothing has changed.

[QUOTE=Worldsoffun] Many studies show that the average IQ of a Law Enforcement Officer is below the average population and they need all the help they can get.[/QUOTE]Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.

[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html[/url]

[url]http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm[/url]

(scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)

Anyone know where I can get a soapy massage. Perferably not near the areas getting busted. If it is out of the city of orlando that is fine as well.