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[QUOTE=TwoTimeTed;2829137]Code Enforcement Bungled my Visit!

I visited a MP in the Chinatown District. I was waiting around to make sure the coast was clear and I went inside, not more than 30 seconds go by and in come two "code enforcement" people, one white woman and one black man, flashed their badges and walked through the place from front to back opening doors and looking for something. They must have staked out the place. But a note to all purveyors, they walk through the whole place, so if there's no doors, someones happy day will be a sad day.[/QUOTE]Happened to me at a place on Rainbow a few years ago during the middle of the day. DId you notice, the staff at the place just clammed up and just kind of stood against the wall almost waiting to be arrested. The code enforcement folks did not say anything to me, but the black woman (it was a black woman and a korean woman that was hot as hell. Too hot for the situation I was in) smiled at me when they walked past me. After they left I decided I did not need a massage or anything else so I left. There was a black nonmarked ford explorer in the parking lot and the korean lady was talking to a man through the drivers side window. Pretty unnerving.

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2851242]Hey guys I didn't see a thread in regards to motels. But I will be visiting some friends in LV in 2 weeks and I will be staying at their home in NLV. I was planning on going out a couple of the nights and was wondering in someone can give me a few motels near Fremont and Boulder Highway. I will be cruising around looking for SW's and need a short place to stay for a couple of hours. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Try Palace Station. SAMs a Town, just rent a room for two nights (your sex room) . Use at you please should be ok. One you can try which I had hourly luck is the 49 er motel, they have porn on tv and rooms or sub par but enough to bang a ho in.

Found a new ad for an old place, but popular.

I answered an ad that basically says come and pick your girl and rent out our room and you negotiated the price with the girl. Cost of room rental 40.

So, they finally gave me the address after a little haggling. The address is a popular MP on this board in the Spring Mtn area near Pool Sharks. I did not partake but sounded interesting.

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Hey guys looking for some reccomendations on where to stay in Vegas that's inexpensive and safe?

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871254]Hey guys looking for some reccomendations on where to stay in Vegas that's inexpensive and safe?[/QUOTE]Whats your budget?

[QUOTE=Apex31;2871703]Whats your budget?[/QUOTE]50 to 80 a night?

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871949]50 to 80 a night?[/QUOTE]I would say gold coast.

Does anybody know how to speak Chinese?

I have come across a series of Chinese UTR massage AAMPs and when I try contacting them, they almost hang up on me because they speak Chinese and I speak English.

So if anyone can speak Chinese and would help me land a couple of massages with these gals, would be nice.

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871254]Hey guys looking for some reccomendations on where to stay in Vegas that's inexpensive and safe?[/QUOTE]I would say Orleans, there are casino girls / streetwlakers there if you just can't wait for nice outcall to your room. Nicer than Gold Coast, same company, Boyd Gaming. Get a players card, it helps keep the prices down, sign up online and book through their [URL]http://bconnected.com/[/URL] webpage.

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871949]50 to 80 a night?[/QUOTE]You can get a decent room at Flamingo, Ballys, and others mid strip, mid week for that price.

Hey all, hobbyists / long time lurker / occasional poster from LA OC area. Love this website and everyone is so helpful, looking to see if sin city will yield any results. I hear backpagefemaleescorts ads are sketchy and Eros is not any help.

Any recommendations from you fine fellas? Big booty preferred.

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871254]Hey guys looking for some reccomendations on where to stay in Vegas that's inexpensive and safe?[/QUOTE]It depends on where you want to stay. Fremont, Main Street, luxor offer from 40 USD to 60 USD depends on the month. It has free breakfast also. If you will go to the strip you would cost from 80 USD to 150 USD.

[QUOTE=Sexypayton;2871254]Hey guys looking for some reccomendations on where to stay in Vegas that's inexpensive and safe?[/QUOTE]As mentioned, where you stay depends on what section of town you want to be in: Fremont Street, the Strip... What you pay depends on the day of the week, the time of year, and what event(s) are taking place in Vegas: CES, major awards or sporting event.

Your best indicator of rates is Priceline or Hotel (dot com). Those sites really have demand variables factored into their dynamic pricing algorithms. Interesting phenomenon: you can book a room for the week, and Tuesday through Thursday the rate can be $30 a night, then jump up to $150 per night for the Friday and Saturday nights. Why? Because Vegas gets a surge in visitors on the weekends.

Stay close to where you want to play.

So I am not sure where to post this, but would like the help of anyone. I see this asian girl regularly, but she still tries to convince me that she is not an escort. I told her that I am fine as long as she is honest to me. I understand that we all do things that might be frowned upon. But I just want confirmation, because even after several ads in different cities and the same time she travels, she still tries to deny and it blows up. So anyone willing to help me catch her redhanded? I mean, I suppose it would have to be a photo at sometime during the meeting. And just share with me personally for my peace of mind. Don't need to share everywhere or blackmail. I just need peice of mind. Her latest posts were in LA, Costa Mesa, and Reseda. And last month was Vegas and Reno. I suspect other areas, but not important for now.

[QUOTE=Beenis;2886613]So I am not sure where to post this, but would like the help of anyone. I see this asian girl regularly, but she still tries to convince me that she is not an escort. I told her that I am fine as long as she is honest to me. I understand that we all do things that might be frowned upon. But I just want confirmation, because even after several ads in different cities and the same time she travels, she still tries to deny and it blows up. So anyone willing to help me catch her redhanded? I mean, I suppose it would have to be a photo at sometime during the meeting. And just share with me personally for my peace of mind. Don't need to share everywhere or blackmail. I just need peice of mind. Her latest posts were in LA, Costa Mesa, and Reseda. And last month was Vegas and Reno. I suspect other areas, but not important for now.[/QUOTE]But were you talking to yourself bc if you're talking to us you left no information to look her up?

Information will help us help you.

[QUOTE=Beenis;2886613]So I am not sure where to post this, but would like the help of anyone. I see this asian girl regularly, but she still tries to convince me that she is not an escort. I told her that I am fine as long as she is honest to me. I understand that we all do things that might be frowned upon. But I just want confirmation, because even after several ads in different cities and the same time she travels, she still tries to deny and it blows up. So anyone willing to help me catch her redhanded? I mean, I suppose it would have to be a photo at sometime during the meeting. And just share with me personally for my peace of mind. Don't need to share everywhere or blackmail. I just need peice of mind. Her latest posts were in LA, Costa Mesa, and Reseda. And last month was Vegas and Reno. I suspect other areas, but not important for now.[/QUOTE]What exactly is the point of catching her "red handed"? If you're looking for something on her to break up then I don't think your relationship is going to last. So let's say she's lying and you catch her, now you won't think anything she says is the truth. Just break it off, since you don't believe her. I don't see how finding out she's an escort is going to get you piece of mind. But good luck to you I guess?

Where is she will the postings are up? See if you can get ahold of her or see her. Or setup an appt yourself using a burner number.

[QUOTE=Beenis;2886613]So I am not sure where to post this, but would like the help of anyone. I see this asian girl regularly, but she still tries to convince me that she is not an escort. I told her that I am fine as long as she is honest to me. I understand that we all do things that might be frowned upon. But I just want confirmation, because even after several ads in different cities and the same time she travels, she still tries to deny and it blows up. So anyone willing to help me catch her redhanded? I mean, I suppose it would have to be a photo at sometime during the meeting. And just share with me personally for my peace of mind. Don't need to share everywhere or blackmail. I just need peice of mind. Her latest posts were in LA, Costa Mesa, and Reseda. And last month was Vegas and Reno. I suspect other areas, but not important for now.[/QUOTE]Lots of chicks try to deny that they are hookers. "I've never done this before. I've only done this once before. You are special, that's the only reason I did this. " There are a gazillion other lines. Smile, nod, don't believe it, move on.

Not sure what catching her red handed means. Bang, pay, move on. Don't try to "save a ho", you can't save someone from themselves.

What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]All what you said is true, plus also there willing to pay more, for let's say a younger woman. I've heard also that they prefer on older guy because he isn't going to pound them like a younger guy would. Just hearsay though.

[QUOTE=Beenis;2886613]So I am not sure where to post this, but would like the help of anyone. I see this asian girl regularly, but she still tries to convince me that she is not an escort. I told her that I am fine as long as she is honest to me. I understand that we all do things that might be frowned upon. But I just want confirmation, because even after several ads in different cities and the same time she travels, she still tries to deny and it blows up. So anyone willing to help me catch her redhanded? I mean, I suppose it would have to be a photo at sometime during the meeting. And just share with me personally for my peace of mind. Don't need to share everywhere or blackmail. I just need peice of mind. Her latest posts were in LA, Costa Mesa, and Reseda. And last month was Vegas and Reno. I suspect other areas, but not important for now.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. You say you see this girl regularly but say she is a working girl and denies it. Yet, you seem to know she is posting when she travels? If you see the ads and know her number, why not print-screen the ad (s), and the next time you see her, show it to her and ask her about it?

I'm not sure how she can deny working if you have her posts and they have a number, pic or whatever makes you think she is working. Just my. 02.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]I always figured it's because they're less likely to run into older guys in their regular lives. It's probably a mixture of all these reasons though.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]

My theory is, old guys probably:

* are more likely to show up.

* only able to do 1 shot instead of asking for MSOG.

* won't be as likely as a young guy to be clingy.

* have money.

* are a better opportunity for a sugar daddy.

* more likely married / have an SO and will keep it professional and possibly become regulars.

* more mature.

*are not pimps.

But what do I know? I'm an old guy.

[QUOTE=KSpacey;2894372]My theory is, old guys probably:

* are more likely to show up.

* only able to do 1 shot instead of asking for MSOG.

* won't be as likely as a young guy to be clingy.

* have money.

* are a better opportunity for a sugar daddy.

* more likely married / have an SO and will keep it professional and possibly become regulars.

* more mature.

*are not pimps.

But what do I know? I'm an old guy.[/QUOTE]Let me add, mature providers are also the better choices because games played are minimal, they are more dependable and more experienced. They may have a few extra pounds but the reliability, price and service is well worth it.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]I've always though that it was more likely that they are in a committed relationship (less likely to cause trouble or be a stalker).

Have more spendable money.

Possible sugar daddy.

All of this is a huge generalization, which I try to stay away rom, but its my opinion on why the comment is there.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]Bottom line is that us old guys are way less risky to deal with on a variety of obvious levels.

At the risk of hijacking this thread, in a similar vein I often wonder why it is that when you call for dirctions to an escort, they sometimes ask you to bring the protection. Isn't that like a carpenter who does't have his own hammer?.

[QUOTE=Robert387;2894950]Bottom line is that us old guys are way less risky to deal with on a variety of obvious levels.

At the risk of hijacking this thread, in a similar vein I often wonder why it is that when you call for dirctions to an escort, they sometimes ask you to bring the protection. Isn't that like a carpenter who does't have his own hammer?.[/QUOTE]Logic will get you nowhere.

They'll place ads saying "Call me", and express an interest in having regular clients, yet:

Why do they often have no phone when they can get a burner at Wally for ten bucks?

Why do they not setup their voice mail when they do have a phone in the brief interim between purchasing the phone and losing / destroying / forgetting / having the phone stolen?

Why don't they return phone calls?

[QUOTE=Binky77;2895139]Logic will get you nowhere.

They'll place ads saying "Call me", and express an interest in having regular clients, yet:

Why do they often have no phone when they can get a burner at Wally for ten bucks?

Why do they not setup their voice mail when they do have a phone in the brief interim between purchasing the phone and losing / destroying / forgetting / having the phone stolen?

Why don't they return phone calls?[/QUOTE]They're frigging prostitutes. You want an MBA degree??

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]This entire time I always held the theory that, the provider knows she's old, out of shape, ugly and past her prime and so not to offend younger clients (who expect a decent body) the providers just give up and try for older men who will go ahead with the deed because the provider thinks these men have no standards.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]As one of those old guys (who does have a libido to handle MSOG) I have often found myself becoming a father figure from time to time. I've met hookers for lunch, taken them shopping (not all, but the ones that become regulars), given financial advice, given them marketing advice, had them cry on my shoulder, and just last week had a spinner tell me she likes seeing me because I get her to cum faster and bigger than anyone else and that if she is having trouble getting excited she closes her eyes and imagines she is with me (which, according to her, that reaction is good for her business).

So, yes, we are more reliable, less drama. It is business.

Just my two cents.

C3.

[QUOTE=KSpacey;2894372]My theory is, old guys probably:

* are more likely to show up.

* only able to do 1 shot instead of asking for MSOG.

* won't be as likely as a young guy to be clingy.

* have money.

* are a better opportunity for a sugar daddy.

* more likely married / have an SO and will keep it professional and possibly become regulars.

* more mature.

*are not pimps.

But what do I know? I'm an old guy.[/QUOTE]I'm only in my early forties. But damn it, I think I fit in all of the above categories. I've also been noticing when advertisers say they are looking for "Older" clients, they include ages above 40. Holy crap, I think I'm getting old. This is no good. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last time I picked out winter cloths because they looked cool. I just want them to be warm because the cold makes my joints ache a little. Ugh. Not good at all.

[QUOTE=CraterMakr;2896790]I'm only in my early forties. But damn it, I think I fit in all of the above categories. I've also been noticing when advertisers say they
are looking for "Older" clients, they include ages above 40. Holy crap, I think I'm getting old. This is no good. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the
last time I picked out winter cloths because they looked cool. I just want them to be warm because the cold makes my joints ache a little. Ugh. Not good at
all.[/QUOTE]How about doing this hobby for 20 years now, and you started 20 years ago when you were 40.

If you are 40 now, you got many years of enjoyment left in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]You will get a lot of different opinions. There is now correct answer. They are all different.

One to include is that some think older men will treat them better in many different ways.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]I have heard from working girls that the young guys have too much energy and not enough money. The young guys want to fuck like ramrod porn stars and sometimes hurt the girls without intending to. Older guys are more casual, know what they want and are more gentlemanly about it, even if they are pigs. They aren't going to grab too hard or pummel a girl into the bed.

Mature men are also more gracious with the money, even if it's not too much more. Young guys are broke and will grind you for a $5 price break, whereas older guys have an extra $20 to spend and don't care.

Young guys don't appreciate shit. Remember when you were younger and an 18-year-old girl who was a 6 was a pig in your eyes? Now, that same girl is a goddess. I would love an 18-year-old who was a 6. What we mostly get are 41-year-olds who are 4's, and if they're nice, I treat them better than I probably treated girls when I was 20.

There is also less drama with older guys. Older guys have their own shit going on, and younger guys don't have shit going on. Older guys aren't looking to make a hooker their girlfriend. I call, we meet, we play, I leave. I don't bring my bullshit to you, and I don't have any room for your bullshit in my life.

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2915014]I have heard from working girls that the young guys have too much energy and not enough money. The young guys want to fuck like ramrod porn stars and sometimes hurt the girls without intending to. Older guys are more casual, know what they want and are more gentlemanly about it, even if they are pigs. They aren't going to grab too hard or pummel a girl into the bed.

Mature men are also more gracious with the money, even if it's not too much more. Young guys are broke and will grind you for a $5 price break, whereas older guys have an extra $20 to spend and don't care.

Young guys don't appreciate shit. Remember when you were younger and an 18-year-old girl who was a 6 was a pig in your eyes? Now, that same girl is a goddess. I would love an 18-year-old who was a 6. What we mostly get are 41-year-olds who are 4's, and if they're nice, I treat them better than I probably treated girls when I was 20.

There is also less drama with older guys. Older guys have their own shit going on, and younger guys don't have shit going on. Older guys aren't looking to make a hooker their girlfriend. I call, we meet, we play, I leave. I don't bring my bullshit to you, and I don't have any room for your bullshit in my life.[/QUOTE]


The replies to my question have been an interesting discussion, including the above post.


What about "No blacks"?


It can't be only racism unless the number of prostitutes who are racist is much greater than the number of (anti-black) racists in the general population.
And I think black hookers also sometimes advertise that.

(Although I haven't done a search for info on what % of the population are anti-black racists and haven't tried to track what % of hooker ads specify "No blacks".
Maybe this does reflect general racism in the USA, and it's just that hookers can discriminate and won't be prosecuted for it unlike "legit" businesses).

Can it be fear of pimps? I would think the % of the black population who are pimps is minute, and also that part of being a pimp means not starting off by

paying the prostitute, but instead maintaining control at all times. Hookers on Boulder have told me they get approached by pimps while walking, but not as a customer -
they just try to get the hooker to work for them.

(The belief that) Lack of respect toward women among black men is greater than lack of respect amongst non-black men?
"Deez bitches. " etc. ?

It's always about the money. The percentage of white people with money, especially older dudes, will always be higher than blacks and white young ones put together. They speak from exeprience; they know older white people will likely be less trouble than other races / ages.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2915762]The replies to my question have been an interesting discussion, including the above post.


What about "No blacks"?


It can't be only racism unless the number of prostitutes who are racist is much greater than the number of (anti-black) racists in the general population.
And I think black hookers also sometimes advertise that.

(Although I haven't done a search for info on what % of the population are anti-black racists and haven't tried to track what % of hooker ads specify "No blacks".
Maybe this does reflect general racism in the USA, and it's just that hookers can discriminate and won't be prosecuted for it unlike "legit" businesses).

Can it be fear of pimps? I would think the % of the black population who are pimps is minute, and also that part of being a pimp means not starting off by

paying the prostitute, but instead maintaining control at all times. Hookers on Boulder have told me they get approached by pimps while walking, but not as a customer -
they just try to get the hooker to work for them.

(The belief that) Lack of respect toward women among black men is greater than lack of respect amongst non-black men?
"Deez bitches. " etc. ?[/QUOTE]It's generally the "manager" or thug thing. Girls with "managers" don't want to go anywhere near another manager. That can be really bad news. She may have instructions to stay away from anyone who might be a manager and that's disproportionately black. Someone who is thuggish might roll them as well.

So that generally leaves black hobbyists in a bit of a limited market. Is it discrimination. Yes. But the girls make the rules and it's silly to try and even argue with them. Though, you may see a "no blacks" post from the same girl then next week no such limits on their posts.

There are some girls who've figured things out. If you don't sound like thug on the telephone, you're most likely not to be one in person. They use their judgment and make a case by case call. Better safe than sorry. That goes for both sides of the hobby.