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I was watching this Germany girl since she was in Cancun and posted on SA. Now she is visiting San Diego. Asked for 900.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5719192]We tend to warn others on here about scammers and flakes. Very valuable info.
But there are also SBs who are real, but provide a very poor, no-repeat experience. A list of those would also be useful!
This gal is a perfect example (at least with me). A slim, petite, good looking, very fit MILF, agreeable to a reasonable allowance. But awful delivery in the bedroom.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d35bf34-84ad-4af3-9b49-2fbd2dd0e302[/URL][/QUOTE]I contacted this pretty babe a while back too and she gave me the impression of a bad lay because she was SUPER dry in the first text messages. I called it off right away after only a few texts back and forth my Sharingan was able to spot trouble up ahead. Maybe it's just me but I am allergic to starfish.
Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.
A woman advertising to be a sugar baby needs to be scrutinized, and you may have to do a lot of interviews if you are up to it.
Sure that is great, but why try to play the Sugar Baby game when you can find a good IP to rock your socks off without the work of effort of finding a suitable "SB"?
If you want a real SB, expect to really have to search, or be one lucky fucker. Generally she won't be overtly advertising, or someone recommended to you by an agency.
No matter which way you go, vaya con Dios and good luck!
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5725068]Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.
A woman advertising to be a sugar baby needs to be scrutinized, and you may have to do a lot of interviews if you are up to it.
Sure that is great, but why try to play the Sugar Baby game when you can find a good IP to rock your socks off without the work of effort of finding a suitable "SB"?.[/QUOTE]Well, of course, there is a continuum, both in what's available and what guys seek. Too many in my view are really looking for just a different way to monger, and if they do that on the seeking site itself, they could mess it up for others who aren't mongers.
I've had three durable relationships from [URL]seeking.com[/URL], and I have bowl buddies who have literally found their soul mates on the site (despite a 20 year age difference). My SBs ranged from 19 to 40 years of age, whereas I am eligible for Medicare. One of these relationships would still be ongoing after meeting her a year ago if she lived here, and in fact if she is visiting her family here, we get together. No sugar. It's a relationship / affair now. We might meet up in Vegas soon.
Saw these two today (not local).
- The best job? A BJ.
- Historian. Looking for ancient ruins.
Also saw a photo with a bare breast and pierced nipple. They do thing differently in Europe.
Do one time use gift cards still work for the membership? Heard the membership also increased and now auto renew (not liking this tbh).
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;5730239]Do one time use gift cards still work for the membership? Heard the membership also increased and now auto renew (not liking this tbh).[/QUOTE]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;5730722]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.[/QUOTE]Wow, just wow.
Have SA gone crazy?
This is the end of my business with them. No way I am using a personal credit card to sign up.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5725068]Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.[/QUOTE]I think there are multiple trends, several long term, that are driving this change.
1. Years back, a larger percentage of the women on SA were university coeds who joined via word of mouth. They heard from friends at college, via sorority dares, and so on. They came fresh, and somewhat innocent. It was all something of an adventure, with no prior coaching, apart from what friends might tell them. That has all changed. Nowadays, the proportion of coed students on SA is much smaller, with more older and non-university educated women. In addition, a large percentage of the SBs now have coaching from "how to" videos and articles on YouTube, TikTok, Reddit, etc. These two changes have completely changed the dynamic. The women are less innocent, and much more money focused.
2. The second big change is that many of the SDs are also now different. The closure of the previous big online adult sites, such as CL and BP, after the passage of FOSTA-SESTA, led to two things. First, with reduced bottom-end competition, escort prices rose substantially; prices probably doubled at least. At the same time, punters were looking around for new sites to replace CL and BP. Many discovered SA. They brought with them both punter attitudes, and escort pricing, in the form of their readiness to pay GPS rates. Yet another effect is that it seems clear that many SBs are aware of the increased prices in the escort world, and are factoring that into their asks.
3. Finally, I think the Covid pandemic has had a substantial effect over the last two years, by reducing willingness to have an initial meet & greet, or meet socially for lunch or dinner at a restaurant. That has increased the trend towards going straight from talking / texting online to an intimate get together, I. E. Scrutiny has been reduced.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;5730722]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.[/QUOTE]I am not so sure about this. The OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card, a non-reloadable card, has worked for a long time. It is going off the market I believe, however. There is new branding, called SecureSpend. The packaging is very very similar to the old OneVanilla however. If you look at the Richmond VA sugar thread, you may even see a photo of them. You'll have to read back a week or two. There are other solutions also recall reading. I think a Google Pay prepaid card can be used on the app. If you can still download that onto your phone. If that is the only route to an anonymous membership, it might be wise to get that app onto your phone while you still can.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5730767]Wow, just wow.
Have SA gone crazy?
This is the end of my business with them. No way I am using a personal credit card to sign up.[/QUOTE]I was just about to talk more about our beloved Prepaid - Vanilla NOT working anymore. I was able to confirm it last night when I was trying to buy some "Boost," which did not work at all with all methods (the usual - Zipcode / Phone / Name setups). Apparently, the funds were not touched. I believe it's a result of Credit Card (CC) Processor switched. It kinda makes sense for sites like SA, they experience a lot of CC Fraud, so CC processors might not want to work with them.
No, I have not tried Amex Prepaid or any other type of prepaid cards for now. So I guess this is the end for Vanilla, please report back once you guys try other prepaids.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731073]I am not so sure about this. The OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card, a non-reloadable card, has worked for a long time. It is going off the market I believe, however. There is new branding, called SecureSpend. The packaging is very very similar to the old OneVanilla however. If you look at the Richmond VA sugar thread, you may even see a photo of them. You'll have to read back a week or two. There are other solutions also recall reading. I think a Google Pay prepaid card can be used on the app. If you can still download that onto your phone. If that is the only route to an anonymous membership, it might be wise to get that app onto your phone while you still can.[/QUOTE]Do you mean Google Play Giftcard?
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5732802]Do you mean Google Play Giftcard?[/QUOTE]I took a screenshot of what I heard on this site earlier, I will attach it.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5737419]I took a screenshot of what I heard on this site earlier, I will attach it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for our help. Unfortunately, I could not find that option when made a payment to SA membership.
SA is full of women in their 30's now, single moms etc.
The younger girls are now on * or other cam sites. They just need to get enough simps to fork out $50 a month and alot of their living expenses are covered. The cam sites lets them scale their business and there is no need to meet up in person anymore.
Not sure what the strip club scene is like out here but back east where I'm at now its pretty beat. Alot of strip clubs are legit hiring street walkers these days.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5738263]Thanks for our help. Unfortunately, I could not find that option when made a payment to SA membership.[/QUOTE]It says in the app, right?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5739312]It says in the app, right?[/QUOTE]I always use the browser, not app. Maybe that is the reason.
You can look up what you could get with Caligirl22 .
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/profiles/mandymynxx1/photos/6048155/mandy_mynx_pics[/URL]
Several of her movies on the web, including anal, here is an example of a BJ.
[URL]https://www.xnxx.com/video-1143m7e3/deep_and_wet_bj[/URL]
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5741258]You can look up what you could get with Caligirl22 .
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/profiles/mandymynxx1/photos/6048155/mandy_mynx_pics[/URL]
Several of her movies on the web, including anal, here is an example of a BJ.
[URL]https://www.xnxx.com/video-1143m7e3/deep_and_wet_bj[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah she's all over listcrawler too. Very mechanical and straight to the point. Definitely not a SB experience.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d03e97b4-baf0-4fd3-bde1-4596a957c78b[/URL]
Located in Nebraska but listed as San Diego
https://members.seeking.com/member/d3d9508a-2f30-4132-b123-f69aa158d446
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5741726]Yeah she's all over listcrawler too. Very mechanical and straight to the point. Definitely not a SB experience.[/QUOTE]Never met her, so I can't confirm or deny. I just posted FYI.
If she is on Listcrawler, then you must be right about the experience though!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/16613b11-7e16-40e7-bdf7-101ea5fd28eb[/URL]
Asked to do online initially before meeting in person. Selling nude pictures for $50. The lady profile pictures are from internet.
This one asked to be paid via gift card prior to meeting.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/81106ca7-7758-4742-9098-37e7cc879a32[/URL]
As of last night, within a 25 mile search radius there were:
Over 10,000 local SBs on SA. Not that many over that number as far as I can tell. And of course many of these are inactive.
About 2,650 SDs. So roughly a 4:1 ratio of SBs tto SDs, just as SA claim.
Of the SDs:
1, yes just one, was "ID verified".
25 were Diamond members, and.
20 were background checked.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5752436]As of last night, within a 25 mile search radius there were:
Over 10,000 local SBs on SA. Not that many over that number as far as I can tell. And of course many of these are inactive.
About 2,650 SDs. So roughly a 4:1 ratio of SBs tto SDs, just as SA claim.
Of the SDs:
1, yes just one, was "ID verified".
25 were Diamond members, and.
20 were background checked.[/QUOTE]I love data! That's interesting. So if PP's data is taken from our county, that means we have around 2,500 active SDs vs over 10,000 "SBs." However, as PP pointed out, many of them are inactive, plus scammers & "online only due to COVID," so in reality, the number is around 2.5:1
[QUOTE=KingBaby;5752659]I love data! That's interesting. So if PP's data is taken from our county, that means we have around 2,500 active SDs vs over 10,000 "SBs." However, as PP pointed out, many of them are inactive, plus scammers & "online only due to COVID," so in reality, the number is around 2.5:1[/QUOTE]Data are indeed for San Diego.
I think ratio will be over 2. 5:1, as many of the SDs will also be inactive, and there are some scammers in the mix for sure too!
I did not look at too many SD profiles in my alternate persona as PumpedPussy, but there were some clear categories:
- The hung hunks. Some quite explicit about having a large endowment to play with, and / or buff bodies.
- The experience daddies. Promising vacations, shopping, spas, etc.
- The lifestyle flaunters. Featuring photos of sports cars, yachts, etc. Not clear if they were going to deliver experiences, or money.
- The youthful daddies (20's). Promising youth, looks and money. Somehow I wonder about these ones. Why be on SA if they are so blessed?
- The "blah" daddies. Nothing remarkable in either their looks, or what they said.
- The lame. Fully 1,000 of the 2,650 SD profiles had no photos at all. A very large number (unquantified) wrote almost nothing.
- The average remainder.
So, I wonder, which category do some of our regulars fit into? .
I will confess to being one of the "average remainder".
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5752756]Data are indeed for San Diego.
I think ratio will be over 2. 5:1, as many of the SDs will also be inactive, and there are some scammers in the mix for sure too!
I did not look at too many SD profiles in my alternate persona as PumpedPussy, but there were some clear categories:
- The hung hunks. Some quite explicit about having a large endowment to play with, and / or buff bodies.
- The experience daddies. Promising vacations, shopping, spas, etc.
- The lifestyle flaunters. Featuring photos of sports cars, yachts, etc. Not clear if they were going to deliver experiences, or money.
- The youthful daddies (20's). Promising youth, looks and money. Somehow I wonder about these ones. Why be on SA if they are so blessed?
- The "blah" daddies. Nothing remarkable in either their looks, or what they said.
- The lame. Fully 1,000 of the 2,650 SD profiles had no photos at all. A very large number (unquantified) wrote almost nothing.
- The average remainder.
So, I wonder, which category do some of our regulars fit into? .
I will confess to being one of the "average remainder".[/QUOTE]I used to be on a special SA category when I started. They had to also verify what I have worth 😂. In realty, you just have to invest time, screen and do your due diligence. I learned that I message as many and try to get them in bulk to a separate platform asap. I have 100% SBs in a Snapchat account and that's where I do my selection process. Not on the SA site. Some have been on my snap for years. Some of them I met years after interaction and some immediately. So no real formula since all SBs are different. And all SDs can be categorized, but it's still about hit rates.
Anyone want to help this gal out with her house buying?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/df508547-abaf-4902-b035-8a6e697dd4c2[/URL]
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5752756]Data are indeed for San Diego.
I think ratio will be over 2. 5:1, as many of the SDs will also be inactive, and there are some scammers in the mix for sure too!
I did not look at too many SD profiles in my alternate persona as PumpedPussy, but there were some clear categories:
- The hung hunks. Some quite explicit about having a large endowment to play with, and / or buff bodies.
- The experience daddies. Promising vacations, shopping, spas, etc.
- The lifestyle flaunters. Featuring photos of sports cars, yachts, etc. Not clear if they were going to deliver experiences, or money.
- The youthful daddies (20's). Promising youth, looks and money. Somehow I wonder about these ones. Why be on SA if they are so blessed?
- The "blah" daddies. Nothing remarkable in either their looks, or what they said.
- The lame. Fully 1,000 of the 2,650 SD profiles had no photos at all. A very large number (unquantified) wrote almost nothing.
- The average remainder.
So, I wonder, which category do some of our regulars fit into? .
I will confess to being one of the "average remainder".[/QUOTE]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]OK, please give us your definition of a chad so we don't have to go to urban dictionary.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]As a matter of interest, do you mean vanilla dating, or as an SD, or both?
I can't say for everyone. But damn, I wish I was in my 20's.
When I was in college, I actually knew I was having a really good time. I was fu*king left and right and anything that moves.
What I didn't prepare was - What an incline (of difficulty) I was facing after college! Wish I had fu*ked more.
If you are talking about providers and professionals, you just need to get connected to them and have money.
If you are talking about the real world of finding women for sex, well you need to be attractive in some way to women. Looks, personality, humor, all can work wonders. Amongst the other things being mentioned, huge apparatus, flash and glamor, fame fortune blah blah blah also work but most men in the world are not rock stars, movie start, or sport hero's.
If you are going for gold diggers you better have gold. If you are going for cheerleaders you better be an athlete. If you think you deserve Miss America, you better be one handsome man. What are you expecting?
With all the social media sites, you just need to be able to communicate well, and learn how to promote and advertise yourself. You don't have to be overly athletic, but you need to be in reasonable shape, be groomed, learn to speak well. Being a fun guy who does fun stuff is attractive too. Hopefully you're not out of shape, shy and boring. Should that be the case, get in shape, find fun stuff to include in your life, and practice communicating with pretty women.
Step up to the challenge, and you get laid, fail to meet the requirements of what women find attractive and accept that fate.
You have youth, amazing advice on these forums, and social media of endless possibilities. Get to work.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5755368]OK, please give us your definition of a chad so we don't have to go to urban dictionary.[/QUOTE]Chad is an attractice / athletic 6 ft+ white guy.
Every race has their own version of it, black guys are tyrone, latinos are enrique, etc.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5755398]As a matter of interest, do you mean vanilla dating, or as an SD, or both?[/QUOTE]Vanilla dating and as of recently. Even being a SD. Its becoming more and more mainstream.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]This Chad? LOL.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]You have no idea how loud I just screamed 'fuck you' in my head. LOL.
Come back and read this when you're in your 50's, you'll understand.
I'm 100% sure you're right, but I'd trade all the pussy in the world for 30 years back. Go to Asia or Costa Rica on vacation. You'll be mobbed. In my 30's I spent some time traveling in SE Asia and China. Got hit on constantly by really pretty girls who assumed I had money and wanted to show off the Gweilow to their friends. Fucked so much I thought my dick was going to fall off.
Save the mongering for when you need some strange on the down low.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5755365]Speaking as a younger guy. Its VERY difficult, if not impossible to find a chick when you are in your 20's unless you are a chad. Its TOUGH out there.[/QUOTE]Another younger guy speaking. It is definitely getting very difficult finding someone even on the dating apps (Tinder / Bumble) for vanilla dating even though you have money and looks. I bet most of the younger guys are just here because they don't want to waste their time with unattractive women they match on dating apps and rather join SA where they can date attractive women. I know that comes with a cost but folks don't really mind it.
I have started looking at SA again and see a lot of these common patterns in names, like.
DreamyDuchess.
GorgeousMizz.
StunningGirl.
GorgeousMiss.
CheekyAphrodite.
BeautifulDreamer.
ClassyQueen.
FunBelle.
The profiles are typically recent and just a generic couple of sentences but not all, like this one:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1cbd007e-ef14-4228-a474-1d3b64dc08f6[/URL]
Is this odd or do people just read the same tips page for profiles somewhere? Probably over thinking this? Just want to filter out the huge number of fakes.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plMNOBc8zCM[/URL]
[QUOTE=MaxKat;5759275]I have started looking at SA again and see a lot of these common patterns in names, like.
DreamyDuchess.
GorgeousMizz.
StunningGirl.
GorgeousMiss.
CheekyAphrodite.
BeautifulDreamer.
ClassyQueen.
FunBelle.
The profiles are typically recent and just a generic couple of sentences but not all, like this one:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1cbd007e-ef14-4228-a474-1d3b64dc08f6[/URL]
Is this odd or do people just read the same tips page for profiles somewhere? Probably over thinking this? Just want to filter out the huge number of fakes.[/QUOTE]I think SA randomly generates those usernames.