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[QUOTE=DogRice;4118320]When I was in the bowl, I was constantly communicating potential SBs all the time (time consuming, yes) but I still had hard time keeping the pipeline going. I am also married, so getting the right SB is more challenging for aligning my schedule, FC availability,.

I did tell SB that I am married. What type of SBs you focus on?[/QUOTE]I'm focusing mostly on age 35 and up as I'm in my 60's. I have read the reports here though so I'm checking sometimes some of the younger ladies.

[QUOTE=Waxxon;4109610]It's been a while, here's some recent info from SA.

SunBBY92109 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a7976f15-4eeb-4f86-bc96-843a2025e996[/URL].

Reached out to me, chatted a bit. She is ready willing and able. Didn't partake because my regular sb was taking care of me.

Yogabbxx [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a1a36f8-87ed-493c-b357-317ff1ad50db[/URL].

Messaging went well, has a hubby that OOT? Ready to connect, one problem. Gps. Maybe reality has set in and has become reasonable.

Cuddlingkitten [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5488de-3467-c4d0-1563-5684c626f011[/URL].

I spent several days messaging with her. Seemed very selective, and intelligent. I made it past her screening mechanism, we set a date. On the day of the date, she hits me with the "I expect to be compensated for my time" schtick. I let her know the only time I compensate for is FC time. Ghosted me.

Ablondenanny [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b73a767-6f2f-4a2b-8199-1b327062d5c4[/URL].

Had M&G, follow up date at my place. A nice session, tried for repeat dates. Has moved to LA for school. Will revisit when back in town.[/QUOTE]Are most of the ads on the site Pro? Base on their writing, they look to be ordinary people looking for financial support in exchange for service. I'm very interested but have yet to take the plunge. Any advice or recommendations from fellow readers are very welcome.

Cityslicker.

Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.

There are some basic tips / rules.

1. Do not forward $ in advance, or buy them a car and she says she will pay you back etc. Or you will learn the hard way. There are all kinds of stories of SD's losing out, even to an SB you "trust". Buyer beware.

2. Do not pay for M&G, this just encourages and perpetuates the problem. We all have something the other side wants. No honey. No money.

3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.

4. Have a rotation of as many sb's as you can handle physically and financially. It's not unheard of having a rotation of 4-5, some drop off for one reason or another, you may have 1 or two that are your #1 or #2 sb with some options that you keep in your harem.

5. There seem to be a lot more pros out there, you will quickly sense which ones. Nothing wrong with pros, I like them.

6. Develop some game.

7. Age is a personal preference. Everyone has what they feel is their sweet spot.

8. Don't let flakiness, no call no show (NCNS), ghosting, bother you. It happens on both sides. Sure it's irritating, write them off and find one that values your time and generosity as much as you value theirs.

9. Married, it's your choice whether to reveal. Some out there don't want to be home wreckers, some don't care, some prefer it, some will be upset if you mislead them.

10. PPM vs monthly? Most of us do ppm, monthly creates a situation where one side feels they get shortchanged if a date is missed, while there is no incentive for the other side to fulfill the agreement. After you have established a trustworthy sugar relationship, it may work well.

11. Enjoy yourself. Be safe. You're here for a mutually beneficial experience.

I've probably forgotten many things. Other experienced SD's out there with any comments?

Lots of good info on other places here. Visit other threads. See Richmond thread [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL].

[QUOTE=Waxxon;4119520]Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.

There are some basic tips / rules.

1. Do not forward $ in advance, or buy them a car and she says she will pay you back etc. Or you will learn the hard way. There are all kinds of stories of SD's losing out, even to an SB you "trust". Buyer beware.

2. Do not pay for M&G, this just encourages and perpetuates the problem. We all have something the other side wants. No honey. No money.

3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.

4. Have a rotation of as many sb's as you can handle physically and financially. It's not unheard of having a rotation of 4-5, some drop off for one reason or another, you may have 1 or two that are your #1 or #2 sb with some options that you keep in your harem.

5. There seem to be a lot more pros out there, you will quickly sense which ones. Nothing wrong with pros, I like them.

6. Develop some game.

7. Age is a personal preference. Everyone has what they feel is their sweet spot.

8. Don't let flakiness, no call no show (NCNS), ghosting, bother you. It happens on both sides. Sure it's irritating, write them off and find one that values your time and generosity as much as you value theirs.

9. Married, it's your choice whether to reveal. Some out there don't want to be home wreckers, some don't care, some prefer it, some will be upset if you mislead them.

10. PPM vs monthly? Most of us do ppm, monthly creates a situation where one side feels they get shortchanged if a date is missed, while there is no incentive for the other side to fulfill the agreement. After you have established a trustworthy sugar relationship, it may work well.

11. Enjoy yourself. Be safe. You're here for a mutually beneficial experience.

I've probably forgotten many things. Other experienced SD's out there with any comments?

Lots of good info on other places here. Visit other threads. See Richmond thread [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL].[/QUOTE]Another dumb question: should I upload my photo or just do ppm and forgo the photo?

[QUOTE=CitySlicker;4119653]Another dumb question: should I upload my photo or just do ppm and forgo the photo?[/QUOTE]A little confusion here. Pay per meet is the deal for the girl. There is no such thing as ppm for the site. I am not sure, I don't think a photo is absolutely required to have a profile on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. You can always put up something that isn't you but is close enough for government work. No risk there. You must pay the full monthly to the site, $90. Alternatively, if you get on the app, you can get a week membership for like $30. A tryout. You cannot message any girls until you pay.

I also recommend an extensive review of the Richmond sugar thread, and especially its archive, on the same page. All your questions (and many you did not ask) will be answered there.

Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.

I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!

Cityslicker.

[QUOTE=CitySlicker;4121917]Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.

I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!

Cityslicker.[/QUOTE]As I advised the OP below, you need to spend a few days immersed in other how-to threads, particularly Richmond VA, to learn how to best play the game. Short answer, you aren't taking the right approach.

[QUOTE=CitySlicker;4121917]Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.

I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!

Cityslicker.[/QUOTE]You are playing the game wrong! SA is where to go to find young sugar BABIES, not old hags (AKA MILFs). Contrary to what you might think, that a MILF would be cheaper, in practice it is always the opposite. MILFs are older, with more commitments. They want more money, as you are discovering. The younger models. Students - are cheaper.

Seems like a few new bowl members, so I'll throw in my $0. 02. If you have a good hour or so to spend a day (spread out in 15-20 min increments, so about 3-4 times a day), it's not too hard to find what you're looking for.

Just message who you're interested in, see if you can agree on a ppm (or do that later, up to you but I think it saves time upfront) and meet up.

If you can't agree, then move on. I generally lowball and see if any bite, or if not, then offer a little more but never above my max. I've gotten a fair amount of young (under 30) sbs that way, and kept them in cycle until I got bored or better came along.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=CitySlicker;4121917]Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.

I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!

Cityslicker.[/QUOTE]I've never once done a meet and greet and have hooked up with a couple dozen from the site, only once paying more than 200 and occasionally not paying anything at all.

[QUOTE=CitySlicker;4119365]Are most of the ads on the site Pro? Base on their writing, they look to be ordinary people looking for financial support in exchange for service. I'm very interested but have yet to take the plunge. Any advice or recommendations from fellow readers are very welcome.

Cityslicker.[/QUOTE]The pros are relatively easy to spot. I immediately eliminate anyone who has more than one pic from a hotel room. (floors, bedsheets, showers, sinks are all clues). Plus if you've spent any time at all perusing BP before it died, you should have a sense of the. Vibe. A pro puts off.

[QUOTE=Waxxon;4119520]Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.



3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.

[/QUOTE]To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.

[QUOTE=Waxxon;4122600]To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.[/QUOTE]Just my take on things, if you have someone discussing hours, or a menu, they are essentially a BP girl, not a SB. I'd like to keep those kinds off of [URL]seeking.com[/URL], the more of them there are, the more likely it gets shut down the way BP was. The site is the only place people like me looking for real ongoing arrangements can find them. Escorts violate the terms of service, and I report every one of those who message w / that vibe.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4123341]Just my take on things, if you have someone discussing hours, or a menu, they are essentially a BP girl, not a SB. I'd like to keep those kinds off of [URL]seeking.com[/URL], the more of them there are, the more likely it gets shut down the way BP was. The site is the only place people like me looking for real ongoing arrangements can find them. Escorts violate the terms of service, and I report every one of those who message w / that vibe.[/QUOTE]I never said we were discussing hours or a menu. Ultimately it boils down to money and time, the sb can see she is getting a couple hundred for a few hours of their time compared to the part time job where they make about the same in one week as one date with a SD. Granted there are "pros", semi pros, pseudo pro sbs, or whatever you want to call them. As for violating TOS, most of us fall in that camp by utilizing ppm.

These two new wannabe POT sb's profile have nearly the same wording. Also created at about the same time. Probably some time wasters or scammers looking to mess with you, or. ?

Fundme.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/797836c2-8416-4824-aaf3-f81b0e855283[/URL]

Moneygirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/64b69705-12a4-4178-981e-902288832054[/URL]