"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOT=RegularJoe1985;6830385]The thing with Seeking is that it is becoming more and more difficult and time consuming to find real ones as decent asks.

Their algo seemed to show lot more girls in the area I searched when I wasn't a paid member. As soon as I paid, all I see are the same set of girls in the search. Many of the previous ones don't show up as much or at all. Sometimes I'd get a link from here and there and they never showed up in my search. Granted they might not have logged in for a while but there are just too many to be a coincidence.
.[/QUOTE]Yes. I have done quite some research on seeking search engine. And they do meddle with it. Not sure why? But two people using the search parameters. Get different research. But if you log out for few days and get back in the search results are different. Not sure if it has to do with the cache and you have to empty it every time. Its a bit annoying.

Also a lot more pros, and some blatantly obvious and seeking is turning a blind eye.E

[QUOTE=Gobig2;6763030][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ae930aa5-ea98-44a4-bec7-22ff194dda50[/URL]

Great experience very chill. Fun and clean. Great Body. 350-400 ppm and can Host. No bs phone tag and scam service like most on SA. Yes I'm new to posting but been lurking for awhile now and registration took awhile. Send me a message if any questions on her. She is a reg of mine.[/QUOTE]350-400 for a 50 year old? Even with hosting?

Leaves me shaking my head, that's all.

But to each his own I guess.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;6831742]350-400 for a 50 year old? Even with hosting?

Leaves me shaking my head, that's all.

But to each his own I guess.[/QUOTE]She looks so familiar to me. I think she was someone on my rotation back in the day from backpack or a similar site.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2fbe9b20-26f4-4531-a1cb-dbdfaec47ce3[/URL]

Anyone know her? I feel like I've seen her on SA, but under a different name.

[QUOTE=HuslIslander;6833683]She looks so familiar to me. I think she was someone on my rotation back in the day from backpack or a similar site.[/QUOTE]She's been on the site for a while. I've chatted with her before, but when I mentioned actually meeting she completely ghosted me. Sounds like she's a bit of a pro though.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c857ec8-5393-4372-9fc9-f3f5d39ae91d[/URL]

This one is a scam. Set a time to meet then 30 minutes prior needed money for babysitter and would not come out unless I sent money. Oh well. There are way too many scams on SA now.

I have had a couple of dates w / "SB"s who really strongly preferred doggie. Both were really skinny, and both ultimately turned out to be more like UTR escorts, not SBs. Didn't want to have a whole lot to do w / my life outside the FC. Anyway, I wondered if others see a connection between a girl liking doggie and wanting a more transactional relationship. In missionary, you are face to face, you can kiss, etc. , it's more intimate. They don't have to really come to grips w / you if you are banging them from behind.

The most recent example of this for me is a Russian gal, they already have a reputation for being sorta mercenary.

Chatted with this one for a while and scheduled a breakfast M&G; knew it was a scam when she sent a couple of 'to good to be true' pics; did a google image search of the pics she sent and matched them with a hottie who's Instagram has her currently in Canada, not Richmond.

Has anyone ever talked to this woman? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/58a3e8d9-5ab1-448f-a015-de8aa54e35ca[/URL].

I couldn't find anything but she's been around for years.

[QUOTE=GreenMan7560;6838298][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c857ec8-5393-4372-9fc9-f3f5d39ae91d[/URL]

This one is a scam. Set a time to meet then 30 minutes prior needed money for babysitter and would not come out unless I sent money. Oh well. There are way too many scams on SA now.[/QUOTE]Same experience. So many scammers nowadays to deal with on SA.

This is my first SB been seeing her for about 3 months all was great to start with she told me I was exclusive (bs) didn't bother me so the meeting have slowed down and last week she tells me bf has moved in but still wants to see me first instinct is to punt any input dm me please.

[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6854036]This is my first SB been seeing her for about 3 months all was great to start with she told me I was exclusive (bs) didn't bother me so the meeting have slowed down and last week she tells me bf has moved in but still wants to see me first instinct is to punt any input dm me please.[/QUOTE]Your regular having a live in bf is a problem for her alone unless:

1. You were banging at her place and don't want the expense of a hotel.

2. You thought / hoped you were more than a customer.

That you have a question at all makes me think both conditions apply. If so, #1 is just math. #2 is where the work is: if it applies and she is not on the same page (see "bf has moved in") you need to get your head straight or move on.

[QUOTE=DrSugarD;6822068]I just used one from Lowes yesterday and it went through without any problems. Be sure to wait a few hours or a day after registering it before you use it on SA. This may not make any difference but it's the way I did it.[/QUOTE]Do you recall what bank issued the Lowes's gift card? Different locations carry different cards from different banks. Ty.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;6856336]Do you recall what bank issued the Lowes's gift card? Different locations carry different cards from different banks. Ty.[/QUOTE]I have posted off and on about a card that is issued by Blackhawk, you can search for that. It is available on the west coast at a fancy grocery, there are some people who have said it is at Lowes and / or Home Depot.

Seems like everyone's luck must be running dry like mine. Where is everyone. No Posts in over 2 weeks.

What the hell is up with all of these chinise chicks showing up on SA? I am sure they are all fake but come one this is too much.

Ton of Ai fake chics now on that site. I cancelled my membership.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6875693]What the hell is up with all of these chinise chicks showing up on SA? I am sure they are all fake but come one this is too much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6854036]This is my first SB been seeing her for about 3 months all was great to start with she told me I was exclusive (bs) didn't bother me so the meeting have slowed down and last week she tells me bf has moved in but still wants to see me first instinct is to punt any input dm me please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tidad;6854053]Your regular having a live in bf is a problem for her alone unless:

1. You were banging at her place and don't want the expense of a hotel.

2. You thought / hoped you were more than a customer.

That you have a question at all makes me think both conditions apply. If so, #1 is just math. #2 is where the work is: if it applies and she is not on the same page (see "bf has moved in") you need to get your head straight or move on.[/QUOTE]Likewise, I don't see what the problem is here with her bf moving in or how that pertains to you.

Looking for some thoughts form anyone that has met a bartender. Waitress etc and how they may of approached with them if they would have an interest in a mutually beneficial scenario?. I appreciate your thoughts and experience!

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;6882096]Looking for some thoughts form anyone that has met a bartender. Waitress etc and how they may of approached with them if they would have an interest in a mutually beneficial scenario?. I appreciate your thoughts and experience![/QUOTE]This is my wheelhouse! One reason that I don't post much on this site is that I don't care all that much for the pro's. I am extremely discreet as I have much to lose. I have garnered much fantastic info from this thread! I am probably much older than most on here and was married for over 30 years. No S / O now, and have been "wilding" throughout most of it. First thing is that you cannot be repulsive in your appearance or manner! I am NO Richard Gere but Have done very well. It does take effort and usually some time and a couple of really good tips " I have had great success with store clerks, waitresses, social gatherings and even grocery stores. Don't be shy but not aggressive. If you try to be too quick to suggest your intentions and she agrees, 90% she will probably already be a pro! I love the chase almost as much as the Catch! I will try to write up some suggestions for you and post some soon. I have an engagement and not the time right now. I will give you one of my all time favorites though. Walking in a low rent chain grocery store, saw an early 20's slim, beautiful dirty blond girl that appeared to be looking for a few items. She had no makeup, sweat pants and a white button down shirt without a bra. I said hello and told her she had to be the most naturally attractive woman I had ever had the pleasure of meeting and just needed to relay that to her. She replied "how can you say that with the way I'm dressed? Her response started the conversation. Ended up with a lunch meet the next day. Nothing "arrangement" suggested at that time. I told her a little about me and she wanted to hear more than just a few quick stories. Later on in our arrangement when I asked her why, she said she found me very interesting! Even though I was 3 x her age, it lasted several months! It DOES take some work sometimes but the rewards, like this one can be phenomenal! More to come when I have more time.

PIE.

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;6882096]Looking for some thoughts form anyone that has met a bartender. Waitress etc and how they may of approached with them if they would have an interest in a mutually beneficial scenario?. I appreciate your thoughts and experience![/QUOTE]IK of some single guys here who have related their experiences. Some have even mocked up a 'business card' that has their sugar info on it. To give to POTs once the groundwork has been laid in conversation, flirting, etc.

If you are like me, w / an SO, you can't really be having cards like that made up. Discovery would be fatal. However, you can do this. You've had a great time flirting w / a bartender, these girls do get hit on a lot of course, but not usually by someone twice their age and way higher net worth. If it seems possible there is interest, take a sugar packet and write your burner number on it. As you depart, hand her the packet and say something witty, ala a pickup line. Something along the lines of 'there's more sugar where that came from'. She knows exactly what that means. If she doesn't, she's too dumb to bang.

[QUOTE=Happtrav;6814289]So the Prepaid CC from giftcardmall that used to work, to buy membership on Seeking, is no longer being accepted by Seeking.

Can anyone recommend any other Prepaid CC that works to buy a membership on Seeking?

Sorry, I have been reading the forum for hours. And still have not found an answer.

Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have not done his in almost a year but if you have a VanillaOne card you can call this number and pay over the phone. I have done that several times.

775-450-4856.

Found this.

[URL]https://www.w8tech.com/[/URL]

I've been off the site for a while, as I have a rotation I'm happy with. I have an unpaid secondary SA account that I occasionally log in with just to see who is posting, but I haven't looked at it or cared in months.

Today I log in and notice it no longer shows the number of results from a given search in a given city. This makes the whole game harder because I can't see how changes in the search affect the numbers.

Do paid accounts still show the # of matches? Or did they remove the feature to try to hide the fact the quantities aren't what they used to be?

I think its hidden too. I stopped paying for the site a little while back as I was tired of the bots the scams and just such high rates. This hunt is not like it used to be for sure.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6888209]I've been off the site for a while, as I have a rotation I'm happy with. I have an unpaid secondary SA account that I occasionally log in with just to see who is posting, but I haven't looked at it or cared in months.

Today I log in and notice it no longer shows the number of results from a given search in a given city. This makes the whole game harder because I can't see how changes in the search affect the numbers.

Do paid accounts still show the # of matches? Or did they remove the feature to try to hide the fact the quantities aren't what they used to be?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6888209]I've been off the site for a while, as I have a rotation I'm happy with. I have an unpaid secondary SA account that I occasionally log in with just to see who is posting, but I haven't looked at it or cared in months.

Today I log in and notice it no longer shows the number of results from a given search in a given city. This makes the whole game harder because I can't see how changes in the search affect the numbers.

Do paid accounts still show the # of matches? Or did they remove the feature to try to hide the fact the quantities aren't what they used to be?[/QUOTE]What the fuck is with the new changes. It says I am no longer searchable until I finish my profile which include forcing me to upload pics! Are you crazy. Also you can no longer favorite a profile. So I am not sure if women can see if I favorite them? This could be the final nail in the coffin for a site that already sucks due to GPS and a ton of fake bots.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6889208]What the fuck is with the new changes. It says I am no longer searchable until I finish my profile which include forcing me to upload pics! Are you crazy. Also you can no longer favorite a profile. So I am not sure if women can see if I favorite them? This could be the final nail in the coffin for a site that already sucks due to GPS and a ton of fake bots.[/QUOTE]I have been getting that too. I just closed the window down and ignore it. Obviously I am still searchable becuase I get all kinds still favoriting my profile. LOL I have always had better luck with ones I search out then ones that contact me out of the blue.

Thanks for the comments so far.

Is anyone with an active paid account confirm the search numbers are gone even in paid mode, and the time the girl was last active no longer appears until you click her profile (assuming she hasn't hidden this)?

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6890516]Thanks for the comments so far.

Is anyone with an active paid account confirm the search numbers are gone even in paid mode, and the time the girl was last active no longer appears until you click her profile (assuming she hasn't hidden this)?[/QUOTE]I am paid and the only way I can see when they were last active is if you have messaged them and you open the message and it is in the side panel. Nothing on the main page like it used to be.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;6891302]I am paid and the only way I can see when they were last active is if you have messaged them and you open the message and it is in the side panel. Nothing on the main page like it used to be.[/QUOTE]It's almost seeming like for a guy like me, ignoring my current comfort zone and looking toward the future, it's going to take a major economic downturn to flip things and get some girls wanting again.

Alrighty then, let me make a couple of phone calls. .

But seriously, I think the FOSTA-SESTA thing and me too movement has made it harder to get the media attention that was turning so many on to the lifestyle prior to the pandemic.

No worries though, like all things there is ebb and flow. Pussy is always out there it's just up to us and our creativity to figure out the best way to harvest it.

The rotation I'm on right now keeps my dick reasonably happy over the short term but not my psyche. After one of these girls spends a weekend with me, my balls are empty I get on the porn sites to look around and I feel a creeping influx of turn off images, fat girls and whatnot. Maybe I'm just getting old and the decline of energy is skewing my perspective?

Sex with the same girls (however hot) only goes so far. Over time the dick turns into something like a dowsing rod for new pussy. Changes to the site that make that harder are unwelcome to be sure.

I have a phone number from texting her but when I do a reverse search on spokeo it comes up a male in a different town which causes suspicion I don't want to make a hotel booking and then no one shows up I would like to verify that she is real They send some pictures but not sure if real.

I read once to have them send a photo with note in the photo saying Hi John and the date I normally do not do a meet and greet first.

Please advise thanks CM.

Best thing imo do is a Facetime call. If they arent up for that well bye.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6896553]I have a phone number from texting her but when I do a reverse search on spokeo it comes up a male in a different town which causes suspicion I don't want to make a hotel booking and then no one shows up I would like to verify that she is real They send some pictures but not sure if real.

I read once to have them send a photo with note in the photo saying Hi John and the date I normally do not do a meet and greet first.

Please advise thanks CM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;6891302]I am paid and the only way I can see when they were last active is if you have messaged them and you open the message and it is in the side panel. Nothing on the main page like it used to be.[/QUOTE]It a pain man. I also feel they are throttling the search results. Two people with same search parameters are getting different results.

[QUOTE=American314;6882345]This is my wheelhouse! One reason that I don't post much on this site is that I don't care all that much for the pro's. I am extremely discreet as I have much to lose. I have garnered much fantastic info from this thread! I am probably much older than most on here and was married for over 30 years. No S / O now, and have been "wilding" throughout most of it. First thing is that you cannot be repulsive in your appearance or manner! I am NO Richard Gere but Have done very well. It does take effort and usually some time and a couple of really good tips " I have had great success with store clerks, waitresses, social gatherings and even grocery stores. Don't be shy but not aggressive. If you try to be too quick to suggest your intentions and she agrees, 90% she will probably already be a pro! I love the chase almost as much as the Catch! I will try to write up some suggestions for you and post some soon. I have an engagement and not the time right now. I will give you one of my all time favorites though. Walking in a low rent chain grocery store, saw an early 20's slim, beautiful dirty blond girl that appeared to be looking for a few items. She had no makeup, sweat pants and a white button down shirt without a bra. I said hello and told her she had to be the most naturally attractive woman I had ever had the pleasure of meeting and just needed to relay that to her. She replied "how can you say that with the way I'm dressed? Her response started the conversation. Ended up with a lunch meet the next day. Nothing "arrangement" suggested at that time. I told her a little about me and she wanted to hear more than just a few quick stories. Later on in our arrangement when I asked her why, she said she found me very interesting! Even though I was 3 x her age, it lasted several months! It DOES take some work sometimes but the rewards, like this one can be phenomenal! More to come when I have more time.

PIE.[/QUOTE]Excellent write up! And I agree that there are many opportunities in the markets and grocery stores. I find that the Latin markets have beautiful young single Moms that are open to programs. Please do keep writing and sharing your wisdom!

LM.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;6891302]I am paid and the only way I can see when they were last active is if you have messaged them and you open the message and it is in the side panel. Nothing on the main page like it used to be.[/QUOTE]I don't understand what you are seeing. I don't have a paid membership and here is what the girl's profiles look like to me.

[QUOTE=LuccaMac;6897792]Excellent write up! And I agree that there are many opportunities in the markets and grocery stores. I find that the Latin markets have beautiful young single Moms that are open to programs. Please do keep writing and sharing your wisdom!

LM.[/QUOTE]Here's another one for why'all.

Took a long while but extremely well worth it! Met a girl, mid 20's, at a convenience store. Beautiful smile and the eyes when she smiled totally enamored me. After 20 or so times interacting with her I just said "when are you going to take me out for lunch!" She said "lets go!" We sat at the table outside and I got into great detail about her. I then talked to her about some of my life stories. She was in a relationship at the time but I ascertained that it was not fulfilling for her. I could tell that she was somewhat submissive and that is appealing to me. I related stories from my days back in the 70's when I was in college and in a motorcycle club (real). She was mesmerized and kept asking for more tales. I listened and learned a lot about her also. It progressed until she broke up with her then boyfriend. I drove up soon thereafter, talked and took her out to dinner. It seems to me that younger women today don't have the same derision for sex as when I grew up. I have been seeing her since and neither of us seem to have any issues with the arrangement as it is a very mutually enjoyable situation! I truly just love a young, beautiful spinner type girl, naked, doing a BBBJ as I sit back and relax! P.S., I am well educated, make good money and not the most handsome guy in the world, but I do know that there a lot of women out there that, regardless of your age are looking for someone who can mentor, educate and put a smile on their faces! Be as respectful and as charming as you can. It has worked for me for many years! I'll have more coming soon. Please do not ask for contacts etc. As I will not compromise my or their discretion!

Good afternoon. Was wondering is Nurse Lauren was still lingering in the bowl at any capacity? I used to have so pretty good times in the Bass Pro parking lot with her. Appreciate the info.

There are alot less genZ girls than there are millenials. Their parents are alot more strict it seems and are not the do-whatever types the boomers are.

The price of SBs is just going to go up as birthrates keep dropping.

If you sugared between 2010-2018. Consider yourself lucky and cherish those memories. It aint coming back.

I've meet up with this one several times. They are fairly new to the game, but eager. Strong sex game. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea. They are ftm but very feminine in the bedroom. Very open minded. Especially if tested. Otherwise BBBJ and CFS. Open to barter. Wanting to try group action as well. You can PM for details about that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b88890a4-989c-48ed-9b11-a6c7bac5e031[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rvabendover;6913703]Good afternoon. Was wondering is Nurse Lauren was still lingering in the bowl at any capacity? I used to have so pretty good times in the Bass Pro parking lot with her. Appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]If it's who I'm thinking of, she was UTR with a few regulars up until about a year ago. She'd hit me up a couple times a month and come over to my place. Haven't heard from her for a while. I think she's finally making enough money nursing.

I have this one on the hook.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c7c1edbb-227b-4149-ab80-02dda7c14a6a[/URL]