"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;6781634]Just a follow up -- she was charged with "CONSPIRACY. MURDER: 2ND DEGREE" . However at the Preliminary hearing in early January they "Nolle Prosequi " and dropped charges.

"Boyfriend" if true is charged with Murder in 2nd Degree .. set for trial in May .... who knows !

So who knows if the rumors were true -- her seeking is still active and she was logged in Jan 27th -- so if anybody does make contact approach with some caution.

(and let us all know here).[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like the boyfriend clammed up, Vivian talked ("I knew nothing about it, he was always jealous that I see other guys but I never thought he would do this!") and the only physical evidence was against him. It could even be true, who knows?

[QUOTE=Tidad;6782585]Sounds to me like the boyfriend clammed up, Vivian talked ("I knew nothing about it, he was always jealous that I see other guys but I never thought he would do this!") and the only physical evidence was against him. It could even be true, who knows?[/QUOTE]I was supposed to meet with her recently but skipped on me for a bigger fish. Haven't heard back from her since that date.

[QUOTE=CarpenterP2017;6778653]and we make this board look like cheapskates when we talk about only paying 200-300 for hours of raw dogging hot 20 year olds. Yes, I have paid as low as 200-300, but I've also paid 500, even 600 a couple times. I make very good money and it's just not that much for the service I'm getting imo. < 200/ hr for BBFS with an extremely hot girl who provides a great time is still an incredible rate. I'd welcome anyone who thinks otherwise to find a reputable 9/10 or 10/10 appearance provider in their 20's who has a similar rate anywhere in that ballpark or even double that for BBFS.

But this girl ain't it. I wouldn't even message her.[/QUOTE]That's the same thing guys who shell out 1 K-5 K-10 K-more talk about cheapskates who shell out 500, even 600, LOL.

There's always a range for everyone.

Funny to see how people are quick to paint anyone paying less than them as cheapskates but don't compare themselves with guys who get houses / boats etc. For SBs.

Who's the cheapskate here? I guess everyone here is one.

Guys,

After 5 years on seeking, my account got suspended few days ago. The email says "suspension" not a ban. Does anyone know if there is a difference between a suspension and a ban or all get the same e-mail? The following is what the e-mail says.

"We have detected some unusual activity on this account, resulting in suspension. During this time you will not be able to contact other users or pay for any services.

Please note that account suspensions are issued for either of the following reasons:

A violation of our Terms of Use.

Actions that trigger our automated security system".

It gives me an option to e-mail customer service if I want to provide further details. Just wondering if I should e-mail or not. Anyone with any experience, would like to hear. I am usually careful what I discuss there, but it is possible a girl I declined reported me. Another possibility is that I sent a lots of messages a day before my subscription ended, it may have triggered something.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=Gobig2;6778713]Agreed no doubt good points here.[/QUOTE]Cannot PM you.

Done, sorry about that.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;6788551]Cannot PM you.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone had the pleasure she is on SB.

[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6795487]Has anyone had the pleasure she is on SB.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen her once.

PPM 500. I think I overpaid.

She is real, nice and reliable. Service was good and I did not even to try push towards bare.

I know someone who paid 400.

I did not repeat as I had better options at that price point and even lower.

If she was 400 or lower, I would have considered seeing her again.

Let me know what PPM is she working with lately and how it goes for you if decide to take the plunge.

Peace out brother!

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[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6718874][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6e1bcc06-9b3b-498d-b84f-737179781a6c[/URL]

Been messaging back and forth anyone have any experience with this lady? Seems cool.[/QUOTE]Hey there buddy!

Were you able to take this any far? Past chat, meet and greet or FC. Appreciate any intel you can provide.

TIA.

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[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6795487]Has anyone had the pleasure she is on SB.[/QUOTE]I can't find her, I looked on SB but not there.

The website doesn't make it too clear.

[QUOTE=ILikeHotWomen;6804093]The website doesn't make it too clear.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Just checked with a couple of my SBs and confirmed they can still send messages on SA and SB without a paid subscription.

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[QUOTE=IbDaddy;6803462]I can't find her, I looked on SB but not there.[/QUOTE]I made a typo. She profile name is Uvagirl23 and not Uvagirl13 as I mistyped. Try with that!

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Somebody help me out. This chick looks very familiar. Seems like I've seen her somewhere before.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/31aeb297-8f0a-4b4e-a10c-90a884cc4312[/URL]

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;6781634]Just a follow up -- she was charged with "CONSPIRACY. MURDER: 2ND DEGREE" . However at the Preliminary hearing in early January they "Nolle Prosequi " and dropped charges.

"Boyfriend" if true is charged with Murder in 2nd Degree .. set for trial in May .... who knows !

So who knows if the rumors were true -- her seeking is still active and she was logged in Jan 27th -- so if anybody does make contact approach with some caution.

(and let us all know here).[/QUOTE]Saw that she's logged in today.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6805871]Somebody help me out. This chick looks very familiar. Seems like I've seen her somewhere before.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/31aeb297-8f0a-4b4e-a10c-90a884cc4312[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure she's been reviewed before, but a few of those pics are new. Regardless, she seems a bit cray cray to me.

I did message the murder girl too. We'll see if she writes back LOL. I figure murder boyfriend is locked up so we should be safe right? Right? LOL.

[QUOTE=CarpenterP2017;6807076]I'm pretty sure she's been reviewed before, but a few of those pics are new. Regardless, she seems a bit cray cray to me.

I did message the murder girl too. We'll see if she writes back LOL. I figure murder boyfriend is locked up so we should be safe right? Right? LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn! LMFAO!

Thinking if this is one of the following:

A. a sign of desperation.

B. living on the edge daredevil attitude.

C. an act of service; contributing to his bail money.

Sounds like all of the above answer LOL.

[QUOTE=Automatic2015;6807351]Damn! LMFAO!

Thinking if this is one of the following:

A. a sign of desperation.

B. living on the edge daredevil attitude.

C. an act of service; contributing to his bail money.

Sounds like all of the above answer LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha mostly curiosity and a little bit of B. She didn't message back though, so womp womp. I probably wouldn't have gone through with it anyways. I'm far too concerned about OPsec stuff to risk it most likely.

I noticed most of you all are on seeking but has anyone ever tried a different site like [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL]? Or is seeking the best bet?

[QUOTE=TwistedMetal;6808211]I noticed most of you all are on seeking but has anyone ever tried a different site like [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL]? Or is seeking the best bet?[/QUOTE]If you read other blogs one will see that there are many frustrations with SA as a site. That said, the general consensus is that in spite all of its obvious and persistent flaws, Seeking is still the best bang for the buck and best place to be. It does take a BUNCH of time to be on there, requires patience to sift and sort through the rinsers, scammers and prostitutes, but it can be done!

Oh there will be those that have had success on Secret Benefits and SD4M and other sites, but the best bet is still SA

So the Prepaid CC from giftcardmall that used to work, to buy membership on Seeking, is no longer being accepted by Seeking.

Can anyone recommend any other Prepaid CC that works to buy a membership on Seeking?

Sorry, I have been reading the forum for hours. And still have not found an answer.

Any help is appreciated.

Just curious I have dipped toes in the sugar bowl with not alot of success. My experience has been bad communication high prices and can't host asking from 500 and up per meet where as high end escorts good communication money about the same and most do incall. One SB shot me a number to be exclusive now how would you know what she is doing when you are not around just curious what others have to say most I have talked to seem to be only concerned about $$$ and what they can get from you. Where as escorts both of you know what you are there for.

[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6815231]Just curious I have dipped toes in the sugar bowl with not alot of success. My experience has been bad communication high prices and can't host asking from 500 and up per meet where as high end escorts good communication money about the same and most do incall. One SB shot me a number to be exclusive now how would you know what she is doing when you are not around just curious what others have to say most I have talked to seem to be only concerned about $$$ and what they can get from you. Where as escorts both of you know what you are there for.[/QUOTE]So it's complicated. I'd say that for me a good sugar arrangement is better than an escort. One big reason is the time. Most SB's don't bill by the hour. That $500 might be good for a 4-5 hour date with 3 pops. There also tends to be more connection and interaction between dates in my experience. My SB's have all been like really good friends, but with benefits. I'm still friends with most of them, and count them as close friends. But a good arrangement can be hard to find. Takes more leg work. Maybe in some ways more risky as the girls haven't been vetted as thoroughly, and could be crazy and ruin your life. But overall I've had good experiences.

[QUOTE=CarpenterP2017;6815856]So it's complicated. I'd say that for me a good sugar arrangement is better than an escort. One big reason is the time. Most SB's don't bill by the hour. That $500 might be good for a 4-5 hour date with 3 pops. There also tends to be more connection and interaction between dates in my experience. My SB's have all been like really good friends, but with benefits. I'm still friends with most of them, and count them as close friends. But a good arrangement can be hard to find. Takes more leg work. Maybe in some ways more risky as the girls haven't been vetted as thoroughly, and could be crazy and ruin your life. But overall I've had good experiences.[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head. I have two SB's I still keep in contact with that I've known for awhile now that I found on SA. Neither have I ever paid more than 350 per meet and now it's incredibly less and sometimes both hit me up to meet with no compensation involved at all. I will say the one I like the most I've always had to host so that cost does add up but she's definitely worth it. I consider her a very close friend with benefits, and the benefits are so damn good cause she is amazing at what she does and knows my body and likes to a tee. The other comes off a bit needy at times but she never asks for more than 50 bucks here and there, don't see her as often but in a pinch she's there. I've never had to deal with a time limit either vs what you expect with an escort, and at this point the menus are wide open with them. All in all a good arrangement takes some work, time, and consistency but if you manage to get a good one treat her right because most likely the guys her age aren't treating her the way she wants anyway.

[QUOTE=Happtrav;6814289]So the Prepaid CC from giftcardmall that used to work, to buy membership on Seeking, is no longer being accepted by Seeking.

Can anyone recommend any other Prepaid CC that works to buy a membership on Seeking?

Sorry, I have been reading the forum for hours. And still have not found an answer.

Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]OK, so a few suggestions. Don't shoot the messenger.

Try the "Advanced Search" function, use the white letter hyper-link, found in the upper right hand corner of most pages, to do a detailed search for prepaid in this specific forum. Much easier than reading the whole thread as this topic goes round and round here periodically. Use to be that OneVanilla and SecureSpend cards were the way to go. Now, perhaps, not so much.

Second send Seeking CS an email through the site with headers or whatever, related to "can't pay". It is any business' best interest to collect the money, so they will move your request to the top of the pile. Tell them you have a prepaid card you'd LOVE to use, but apparently the system keeps rejecting it. ASK if there is anyway to make this work? Contrition and politeness goes a long way in getting what you want.

The preferred outcome is they send you a reply with some toll-free number. You call that number, talk to some dude or dudette in some foreign country and that person magically figures out a way for the gift card to go through and pay your membership. You are going to need your user name, email address and phone number you used to signup with for the Rep to find your account.

It is a little bit of a hassle, but one way to get prepaid cards to go through. If it doesn't work then you'll have to use the prepaid card to buy another brand prepaid card. Maybe the person on the magic number could suggest which one would work?

I have used this method several times before. Just saying.

Hope this helps?

[QUOTE=Happtrav;6814289]So the Prepaid CC from giftcardmall that used to work, to buy membership on Seeking, is no longer being accepted by Seeking.

Can anyone recommend any other Prepaid CC that works to buy a membership on Seeking?

Sorry, I have been reading the forum for hours. And still have not found an answer.

Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I just used one from Lowes yesterday and it went through without any problems. Be sure to wait a few hours or a day after registering it before you use it on SA. This may not make any difference but it's the way I did it.

[QUOTE=DrSugarD;6822068]I just used one from Lowes yesterday and it went through without any problems. Be sure to wait a few hours or a day after registering it before you use it on SA. This may not make any difference but it's the way I did it.[/QUOTE]Blackhawk?

Hi Guys,

Got permanently banned from Seeking. Looking for alternatives. Anyone who is on sugardaddymeet, com, I appreciate the following info.

1. What is the monthly fee?

2. Is messaging unlimited or have to pay or use tokens to message?

3. Is a profile photo an absolute requirement?

4. How easy to use a prepaid card to make the payment?

Thanks guys.

Dr. S.

Ok so I see that SA is doing their one hour free promo so I thought I would give it a shot. Not surprised that it did not generate the results I was looking for but it was a good reminder of how to spot a fake ad. This is the ad in questions [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/374a943d-6c94-4293-9f4c-fe8345903f4c[/URL].

1. If it seems TGTBT then it probably is. Check.

2. They make up an excuse as to why they can't video chat with you like my cell phone is old. Check. Come one it's 2024 even the cheapest phones can video chat.

3. They have a sob story about family like they are taking care of sick family, someone died or dad left. - Check.

4. They don't live in the city that is stated in their profilie. Ok this one I can't prove because "they" did say a city near Richmod.

Do not bother with this one gents.

OH shit, the girl who was accused of murder or whose bf tried to murder someone is back on line. Holy shit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d01cdb45-c282-438a-8dd0-aa220fb113e8[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6823835]OH shit, the girl who was accused of murder or whose bf tried to murder someone is back on line. Holy shit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d01cdb45-c282-438a-8dd0-aa220fb113e8[/URL][/QUOTE]General feeling is that as they did not prosecute her -- she had no knowledge of the BF actions. As he is locked away and unlikely to see the light of day until he is very old (if ever) that it would be safe to see her -- but everyone has their ops / sec levels.

She had been around for a while -- and we all assume that she had been active to the point that forum members here have to have seen her -- HOWEVER, I have yet to find one member that has actually met her either for M&G or in the sack. I have been told she has sent out videos of her doing a pretty good BBBJ!

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6823807]Ok so I see that SA is doing their one hour free promo so I thought I would give it a shot. Not surprised that it did not generate the results I was looking for but it was a good reminder of how to spot a fake ad. This is the ad in questions [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/374a943d-6c94-4293-9f4c-fe8345903f4c[/URL].

1. If it seems TGTBT then it probably is. Check.

2. They make up an excuse as to why they can't video chat with you like my cell phone is old. Check. Come one it's 2024 even the cheapest phones can video chat.

3. They have a sob story about family like they are taking care of sick family, someone died or dad left. - Check.

4. They don't live in the city that is stated in their profilie. Ok this one I can't prove because "they" did say a city near Richmod.

Do not bother with this one gents.[/QUOTE]Not to mention, she wants "online only"! In other words, "please pay to never have sex w me"

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6823807]Ok so I see that SA is doing their one hour free promo so I thought I would give it a shot. Not surprised that it did not generate the results I was looking for but it was a good reminder of how to spot a fake ad. This is the ad in questions [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/374a943d-6c94-4293-9f4c-fe8345903f4c[/URL].

1. If it seems TGTBT then it probably is. Check.

2. They make up an excuse as to why they can't video chat with you like my cell phone is old. Check. Come one it's 2024 even the cheapest phones can video chat.

3. They have a sob story about family like they are taking care of sick family, someone died or dad left. - Check.

4. They don't live in the city that is stated in their profilie. Ok this one I can't prove because "they" did say a city near Richmod.

Do not bother with this one gents.[/QUOTE]Another thing is when they want to start off with you buying pics before you "meet".

Regarding her picture with the printed jeans (or whatever they are). It says "Kill Bill" on her right knee. Stay safe. . .

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6823835]OH shit, the girl who was accused of murder or whose bf tried to murder someone is back on line. Holy shit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d01cdb45-c282-438a-8dd0-aa220fb113e8[/URL][/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL]

You may remember her and she is looking for quick action. DM if you have a trade please.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6825338]Regarding her picture with the printed jeans (or whatever they are). It says "Kill Bill" on her right knee. Stay safe. . .[/QUOTE]Damn, she sent me a message too. Thanks for the info!

Appreciate some advice / help from Richmond members. I am thinking of seeing a VCU student for some fun in the morning say 9 am to 1 pm. Can anyone recommend a good hotel in campus or close to campus that I can use as a day room. Appreciate any info. You can PM if you like. TIA.

[QUOTE=TheDude1;6828212][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL]

You may remember her and she is looking for quick action. DM if you have a trade please.[/QUOTE]Hey there!

Do you have permission to share details about her PPM?

TIA.

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Anyone recognize this girl "tinyriot"? I know she's had a profile before but not sure if she's legit or not. Anyone seen her or remember anything? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/83693a50-a88b-4559-bab5-f6bf08c1f4d2[/URL].

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6808792]If you read other blogs one will see that there are many frustrations with SA as a site. That said, the general consensus is that in spite all of its obvious and persistent flaws, Seeking is still the best bang for the buck and best place to be. It does take a BUNCH of time to be on there, requires patience to sift and sort through the rinsers, scammers and prostitutes, but it can be done!

Oh there will be those that have had success on Secret Benefits and SD4M and other sites, but the best bet is still SA[/QUOTE]The thing with Seeking is that it is becoming more and more difficult and time consuming to find real ones as decent asks.

That's why after a month, one gets drained and stops for a few months, then tries again, thanks TINA.

Couple of things I noticed recently.

Their algo seemed to show lot more girls in the area I searched when I wasn't a paid member. As soon as I paid, all I see are the same set of girls in the search. Many of the previous ones don't show up as much or at all. Sometimes I'd get a link from here and there and they never showed up in my search. Granted they might not have logged in for a while but there are just too many to be a coincidence.

Second, a lot of girls are trying their best just to have free drinks / dinner and leave after even when they'd agreed to proceed further. Now having to put my foot down on that and push for meals in between pops.