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These young ladies seemed amicable enough to start. I got their number and started chatting them up off the site almost immediately. They wanted $500 each for only 90 minutes. CFS. I refused and their attitude changed drastically. Name calling and shitting on my military service. Good luck to anyone who wants to try talking to them.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f14e274-e095-46dc-8ba4-a6e5d698083c[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrSummer;5437395]I have no concern whatsoever about LEO. They are not monitoring the site to check who fucks who. You don't have to worry about that unless you are committing a criminal offence such as talking to a girl underage or stalking someone. [/QUOTE]Famous last words.
To be totally frank, to some degree you live in a deluded fantasy world, and I hope that reality never comes crashing through. The sad truth is that many women out there are batshit crazy. They can, and will, accuse you of anything. And many of them will even believe it happened.
And beyond that, these sugaring arrangements are a legal gray area, and certainly could be seen as a "criminal offense".
Anyway, I honestly wish you the best of luck, but just explaining why some of us are a bit more careful, with leaving an easy paper trail for a LE, etc.
[QUOTE=HugeDell;5436403]
I am single no wife no kids, I am not really hiding from anyone, I need to be on there as it's life and death situation, I am very depressed and I think a good GFE BBFS and cip would get me back on track.[/QUOTE]I don't blame you for trying, and we are all on there to find some fun, but just don't assume that some SA trollop will be a cure for your depression. To echo what I said in my last post, many dudes become depressed, and even suicidal, after dating / relationships ruin their life. Just saying you don't want to go out of the frying pan, into the fire.
I would just lower my expectations a good bit, with the sugar babies. Anyway I am trying to get back on there myself, and I will probably be disappointed as well, but the allure of young pussy is just too strong. However, the best I am hoping for is one or two really enjoyable sexual experiences. I do see how a true SD / SB relationship could work though, so I suppose we do both get points for trying.
Well, we all have our fair share of fantasy, don't we?. May be you have a law degree, so you may be better qualified to know whether sugaring is "criminal offence" or not. I am not going to argue on that. But I am not worried at all. If you read my post carefully, my point was if you made LEO come after you for whatever the reason, where you signed up with a fake credit card with someone else's name or your name makes no difference. They will find you. In fact using a fake name would be more incriminating. Of course most of these girls are BSC. That's why you have to treat them with respect and be careful. I have had more than 80 SBs over the past 4 years, most hang out at my house. Not a single issue from anyone. When I end the arrangement, for the last meet I give them double my normal allowance. No issue from anyone. We all have to be careful in this hobby, but if you have to look over your shoulder all the time, you are not enjoying it.
Play Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;5439090]Famous last words.
To be totally frank, to some degree you live in a deluded fantasy world, and I hope that reality never comes crashing through. The sad truth is that many women out there are batshit crazy. They can, and will, accuse you of anything. And many of them will even believe it happened.
And beyond that, these sugaring arrangements are a legal gray area, and certainly could be seen as a "criminal offense".
Anyway, I honestly wish you the best of luck, but just explaining why some of us are a bit more careful, with leaving an easy paper trail for a LE, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrSummer;5439142]Well, we all have our fair share of fantasy, don't we?. May be you have a law degree, so you may be better qualified to know whether sugaring is "criminal offence" or not. I am not going to argue on that. But I am not worried at all. If you read my post carefully, my point was if you made LEO come after you for whatever the reason, where you signed up with a fake credit card with someone else's name or your name makes no difference. They will find you. In fact using a fake name would be more incriminating. Of course most of these girls are BSC. That's why you have to treat them with respect and be careful. I have had more than 80 SBs over the past 4 years, most hang out at my house. Not a single issue from anyone. When I end the arrangement, for the last meet I give them double my normal allowance. No issue from anyone. We all have to be careful in this hobby, but if you have to look over your shoulder all the time, you are not enjoying it.
Play Safe.
Dr. S.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have done some extensive sugaring as well, and no issues yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen, and that doesn't mean I want to make it extra easy for it to happen. And I understand that ignorance is bliss, but some of us do not like to be reckless and careless, when it is unnecessary.
It does apparently take a bit more work to get on SA, with prepaid card and different name, etc but it is worth the extra effort to lower the risk. I don't look over my shoulder all the time. Not even close. And one doesn't need to have a law degree to figure out whether sugaring can be seen as against the law or not. That is common sense. Again, I hope your good luck continues. It probably will, but it very well may not.
Lets see what common sense is. What is more serious offence in legal point of view? Buying a prepaid credit card, then register it with a fake name and address and use if for an international monetary transaction. Or talking to a girl on a dating site and ask her to meet for a coffee?
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;5439186]Yes, I have done some extensive sugaring as well, and no issues yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen, and that doesn't mean I want to make it extra easy for it to happen. And I understand that ignorance is bliss, but some of us do not like to be reckless and careless, when it is unnecessary.
It does apparently take a bit more work to get on SA, with prepaid card and different name, etc but it is worth the extra effort to lower the risk. I don't look over my shoulder all the time. Not even close. And one doesn't need to have a law degree to figure out whether sugaring can be seen as against the law or not. That is common sense. Again, I hope your good luck continues. It probably will, but it very well may not.[/QUOTE]
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[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/88ae45ec-437c-4ae7-baeb-84ea5088d1bf[/URL]
Drives an uber at night. So, her schedule is wide open and can come to you. $$. Haven't tried her yet. Submissive, loves porn, loves toys, greek, loves doggy. Very eager.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/d87ed8b9-9764-4bc8-b6bb-df61dd36d04f[/URL][/QUOTE]Those links don't work. Theytry to go to your SA inbox (easy mistake to make). They both sound promising, so could you possibly grab the proper links to their profiles. Thanks much.
[QUOTE=DrSummer;5439206]Lets see what common sense is. What is more serious offence in legal point of view? Buying a prepaid credit card, then register it with a fake name and address and use if for an international monetary transaction. Or talking to a girl on a dating site and ask her to meet for a coffee?[/QUOTE]To state the obvious, those are not the two choices involved here.
Hey, you can hand all these women a copy of your drivers license and SSN if you want to. That is your choice, and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise.
My post was directed to the other mongers out there, and point out that it is often foolish to take unnecessary risks. Burner phone and prepaid cards are always recommended. Don't be like Jerry Springer and write a personal check to a hooker.
To state the obvious, I was not suggesting anyone handing their SSN and DL to the girl. The guy got banned from the site because he messed up using a prepaid card. Now he can't get back in. I was telling him risks of using his own card. But worry about LEO monitoring the site is not one of them. I stand by what I said.
Peace.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;5439239]To state the obvious, those are not the two choices involved here.
Hey, you can hand all these women a copy of your drivers license and SSN if you want to. That is your choice, and I'm not trying to convince you to do otherwise.
My post was directed to the other mongers out there, and point out that it is often foolish to take unnecessary risks. Burner phone and prepaid cards are always recommended. Don't be like Jerry Springer and write a check to a hooker.[/QUOTE]
100% scammer.
Don't take it personally. She's just a low class piece of trash trying to scam guys into sending her money under the guise of getting her car fixed. Supposedly she can't get an uber to her house but earlier in our conversation she had told me she lives just a couple of miles outside Athens. It's all just part of her scam. She claims her car is cut off due to non payment, I'm sure there are plenty of guys who send her the $300 she needs to get "mobile" so they can meet. Suckers are born every minute.
When I politely told her I wasn't interested, she went ballistic and sent me a whole bunch hate that was completely irrelevant to our conversation. She told me that all of the things I asked her to do were depraved and sick and she was going to report me to SA and the authorities and all that. Which was really interesting because we had never discussed anything sexual in the slightest to that point. It was obvious that it just a series of copy and paste messages she sends to the guys who aren't dumb enough to fall for her scam. Then of course she told me I was ugly and all that. She's just a sorry little piece of trash, unfortunately SA is full of them. Cast them aside and move on.
[QUOTE=CarmelFight;5437811]Don't have link cause I blocked her but she is complete mess. I thought everything was going well until I mentioned how we were going to meet due to her current situation she can't drive herself, won't get picked up, won't Uber like WTF? Anyways she completely went crazzzzy. The usual, name calling, how we SD's are embarrassing and dumb having to pay for the hobby. How she has 2 "other" SD a d wish I was one of them. LOL umm I guess? I did want her cause thought she was a cute little thing would have many fun nights LOL. Her profile says from Hull, GA but she lied she lives somewhere in Comer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrSummer;5439254]To state the obvious, I was not suggesting anyone handing their SSN and DL to the girl. The guy got banned from the site because he messed up using a prepaid card. Now he can't get back in. I was telling him risks of using his own card. But worry about LEO monitoring the site is not one of them. I stand by what I said.
.[/QUOTE]It seems like would be worse to get banned from the site with your real ID and information, than by using a different name. Anyway, JohnnyMapalo posted some tips lately, with re-registering with a prepaid card. I am going to try it, as I was banned a couple of times, and haven't managed to get back in. But using my real name and credit card is just not a reasonable option for me. I will try his technique and report back, if I have some success. I hate to give SA any more money, because they seem to have some real a$$holes running the site, but sadly, I will probably do it.
This chick has and has had profiles all over the southeast. I had chatted with her, the white girl. She had a profile of her own in Lexington but has been in New Orleans. Louisville. Now Atlanta. Texted a bit offered a very nice monthly allowance. We were to meet and ghosted that day. She currently has an ad In Louisville now.
[QUOTE=Paladin90;5438658]These young ladies seemed amicable enough to start. I got their number and started chatting them up off the site almost immediately. They wanted $500 each for only 90 minutes. CFS. I refused and their attitude changed drastically. Name calling and shitting on my military service. Good luck to anyone who wants to try talking to them.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f14e274-e095-46dc-8ba4-a6e5d698083c[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrSummer;5437395]...But one thing I know is that it is getting harder. I cast a wide net and message as many as possible. The success rate is going down, but I still mange to find about 3 legit new girls per month. Be respectful to them, but be assertive. Be upfront and clear. Don't play games. The key is to make them feel safe with you, and reliable.
[/QUOTE]Do you think the success rate will pick up now that all the government handouts are stopping?
Are you that infatuated that you're reverting to actual stalking? As someone that had to get a restraining order against a stalker myself, you're going down a very dark path. For example, Gwinnett County had no issues in a 30 day sentence in the Lawrenceville facility. And when there were issues after that, an additional six months. So play your little game with this lady, wear your hat and glasses, and be so amazed at how nice she is to you at the bar. I can tell you this, in all probability someone has probably already tipped her off to your behavior. Just have an attorney on speed dial, because you're going to need it.
[QUOTE=BuckHead71;5436749]I joined SA hoping to find an ongoing sexual relationship with some sort of connection. Not just pay, pump and go. Which seems to be what most are on there for. Both men and women. I have met about 8 so far. 5 I turned down, 2 I did the pump and go, and one that turned me down. That one in my opinion was the best as far as looks and personality. Or maybe we just want what we can't get. I have somewhat followed her social media accounts and found out she was helping a friend with a bar. I went into the bar but was wearing a hat and glasses, she did not recognize me at all and was super friendly. I plan on returning to the bar tomorrow night when she's working. I am wondering should I just continue to be regular bar patron, do you think after a while I could throw her an offer? Should I mention I met her before on SA, or maybe say I saw her profile on SA? I don't even know if her profile is still up on essay or not because she blocked me. Morgan242 or morganna242.[/QUOTE]
My prediction is that the number of genuine girls seeking an arrangement will go up (coinciding with college girls returning to in person classes in colleges in fall). But at the same time the numbers of scammers will go up too. So, it may not necessarily improve the success rate. Good news is if you are smart enough to weed out scammers and find the good ones, you will have more chances. I doubt the asking rate from these girls will go down. I am not an economist, but I know it doesn't go with normal demand-supply theories. Just my gut feeling being in this game for sometime. Pandemic has shown the SB scene is a different ball game.
Play Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=Buzzsaw1;5439761]Do you think the success rate will pick up now that all the government handouts are stopping?[/QUOTE]