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Problem with a dude
[QUOTE=HorsePecker52;5283687]First one is 1st Spa at 1st and Prince. Got Mimi, she war the only one there at the time. About 50, got kind of a belly, not very pretty, and way too much makeup. But it got better. Very thorough table shower and she even used some kind of scrubby thing. Most places just slop on some soap and rinse off. Mimi scrubbed me down and cleaned me better than I clean myself. Massage was very good too. I drifted off to sleep a few times before she started the tease and flipped me over. She gets extra credit points for no negotiating. She asked me what I wanted, and I said HE, and she took her time with it and did a great job. We never discussed money, but I left her a. 6 tip. Overall pretty good. When your eyes are closed she looks just like Ming Na. .
Second is (another!) Six Stars at 1st and Roger. I had called to ask of they had a table shower, and a dude answered. He said yes, they did, but. A dude answered. I'm just not into places that have a dude there. Rejuvenation on River had a dude at the front desk when they were still open and that killed it for me. So I haven't gone yet, but it's another option for everyone.[/QUOTE]Unless the dude is giving the massage, I never have a problem with one at the fronT desk.
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[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;5288713]Interesting. I'm certainly not trying to make any excuses here, but she has never been a clock watcher with me and she may have had an appointment coming up. It wasn't me, but when I go to Sun or AA, I always call to make an appointment and specifically ask if they are "clean" (no blood), as I don't want to get all worked up only to be shot down because the girl in on her period. I have never had anyone at Sun or AA that ever allowed FIV and they won't even allow a condom covered vibrator inside; only outside. I used to pay $. 2 per visit as well, but after about a year and a half, it dropped to $ because I went there so much. Even with the new girls, they know I only pay $.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I was trying to say. I have always had a great experience with Katie but I don't try to negotiate down from $1. 2 and I have not put in the effort you have so I don't expect $1.
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Two thumbs up for AA
I visited AA on Speedway three days ago. Had a great FS treatment from Mimi, including lots of DATY which I enjoy. Much better service than many (more expensive) private escorts I have seen before.
She has a terrific pair of headlights up front and an equally lovely rear bumper. Just regret I only had time for 30 minutes. It was. 40 for 1/2 hr and 1. 40 for the tip.
I give them the Siskel & Ebert "Two Thumbs Up!
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Sol
Went to visit a new girl at Sol, Linda. Early 40's maybe (hard to tell) relatively cute little spinner, seemed a little uninterested. Very light massage 5 minutes later came the flip and she was helping me with a little.
打39134;26426; (dǎ fēI jī) but didn't finish as I was just interested in her pleasure at that time.
And then I told her.
我21482;24819;21507;20320;23620; (Wǒ zhǐ xiǎng chī andǐ bī.
So that's what I did for about 15 minutes or so. She seemed only moderately enthusiastic about it.
Amazing how clean, tasteless and odorless these Chinese women are.
Hh house plus. 4.
Would probably repeat.
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Sun and AA
I will say that I have never (not even once) paid more than a Benjamin plus the house fee for 30 minutes and have routinely received FS. And I won't name names, but I have also had FIV with more than one girl. In fact, the last time it happened, about 3-5 minutes into the massage, she took my hand and put my fingers in there herself. And I know I don't go to either place nearly as much as GE.
I can only conclude that it is very much a YMMV type of situation.
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[QUOTE=DucatiPilot;5289746]I will say that I have never (not even once) paid more than a Benjamin plus the house fee for 30 minutes and have routinely received FS. And I won't name names, but I have also had FIV with more than one girl. In fact, the last time it happened, about 3-5 minutes into the massage, she took my hand and put my fingers in there herself. And I know I don't go to either place nearly as much as GE.
I can only conclude that it is very much a YMMV type of situation.[/QUOTE]Cool story bro.
If you get that kind of mileage you must be piloting a Tesla. Make sure to keep them batteries charged.
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[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;5288713]Interesting. I'm certainly not trying to make any excuses here, but she has never been a clock watcher with me and she may have had an appointment coming up. It wasn't me, but when I go to Sun or AA, I always call to make an appointment and specifically ask if they are "clean" (no blood), as I don't want to get all worked up only to be shot down because the girl in on her period. I have never had anyone at Sun or AA that ever allowed FIV and they won't even allow a condom covered vibrator inside; only outside. I used to pay $. 2 per visit as well, but after about a year and a half, it dropped to $ because I went there so much. Even with the new girls, they know I only pay $.[/QUOTE]I agree I am kind of surprised with the review having a bad time. I know I have had a massage from another girl and while the other girl was getting water and a towel her come in and be very social. I do pay $. 2 but she was the one that told me that was what it was. I also do not go as frequently but my guess is YMMV but personally I have not had to haggle I have never been rushed at either location even when they were super busy. Sorry that you experienced that.
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[QUOTE=NeonSlug44;5290090]I agree I am kind of surprised with the review having a bad time. I know I have had a massage from another girl and while the other girl was getting water and a towel her come in and be very social. I do pay $. 2 but she was the one that told me that was what it was. I also do not go as frequently but my guess is YMMV but personally I have not had to haggle I have never been rushed at either location even when they were super busy. Sorry that you experienced that.[/QUOTE]This discussion shows why I absolutely hate "YMMV" and why I really think it goes away. We took it from the auto industry. YMMV for them means that the sticker may say that MPG is 16, but you may get 15 or 14. In this hobby, we've perverted that saying to mean "You may get 16 MPG, or the truck just won't start".
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[QUOTE=ChinesePlumber;5289877]Cool story bro.
If you get that kind of mileage you must be piloting a Tesla. Make sure to keep them batteries charged.[/QUOTE]It may be that $ is the typical rate for 30 minutes and $.2 is for longer. I am a bit surprised to see discussion of $.2, but I never spend more than 30 minutes in there so that may be the difference. Typically, I just go in with $.4 in my pocket, no more. 40 to the house up front and then when the negotiation starts, I just stick with FS including DATY and a BJ and pull out all remaining $ from my pocket. That has not worked everywhere (like Ru Yi), but it has always worked pretty much everywhere else.
Even if people are paying $.2 for 30 minutes, I don't think the girls feel bad that some may be paying a little less. If you think about it, they can make more $ doing 30-minute appointments all day long than they can doing 45-minute or hour appointments because their pay-per-minute rate is higher on the half hour appointments. In a way, I am helping them to make more $.
Hopefully I have not jinxed myself now.
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[QUOTE=Gilligan46;5288973]Unless the dude is giving the massage, I never have a problem with one at the fronT desk.[/QUOTE]Different strokes for different folks, I guess. For me, seeing a guy at the desk at a place is just like if I bumped into one of you guys. No offense to any of you fine gentlemen, but it just feels indiscreet and uncomfortable. I'll pass.
In light of current events tho, I can't argue with them wanting to have some muscle on site. We all want to feel safe.
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Katie
[QUOTE=ChinesePlumber;5287105]Everyone on here talks about katie like she's the goddess of Tcson AMPs. "AtF". Etc I don't get it.[/QUOTE]That's a bummer, I have never had an issue with her. Drop donation as soon as I walk in, boom, no hassle / haggle, etc. She said they are getting a new girl soon.
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[QUOTE=HorsePecker52;5290449]Different strokes for different folks, I guess. For me, seeing a guy at the desk at a place is just like if I bumped into one of you guys. No offense to any of you fine gentlemen, but it just feels indiscreet and uncomfortable. I'll pass.
In light of current events tho, I can't argue with them wanting to have some muscle on site. We all want to feel safe.[/QUOTE]I'm with you. Any time in this hobby, if I either see or smell a sausage, I'm out.
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[QUOTE=DucatiPilot;5290338]It may be that $ is the typical rate for 30 minutes and $.2 is for longer. I am a bit surprised to see discussion of $.2, but I never spend more than 30 minutes in there so that may be the difference. Typically, I just go in with $.4 in my pocket, no more. 40 to the house up front and then when the negotiation starts, I just stick with FS including DATY and a BJ and pull out all remaining $ from my pocket. That has not worked everywhere (like Ru Yi), but it has always worked pretty much everywhere else.
Even if people are paying $.2 for 30 minutes, I don't think the girls feel bad that some may be paying a little less. If you think about it, they can make more $ doing 30-minute appointments all day long than they can doing 45-minute or hour appointments because their pay-per-minute rate is higher on the half hour appointments. In a way, I am helping them to make more $.
Hopefully I have not jinxed myself now.[/QUOTE]My issue is with their discretion and judgement. If the going rate for hh FS was, lets say $ . 6 , and that was what everybody was getting it at, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. The issue is that some get it for less and some are up charged. Sometimes they watch the clock and other times they don't Some get fiv fia dfk some don't. I'm just looking for consistency. Cece at sun allows dfk and maybe even BBBJ, although I'm apprehensive about anything uncovered. Katie wasn't having any of that the one night I visited her. She is a shrewd operator.
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[QUOTE=ChinesePlumber;5290907]My issue is with their discretion and judgement. If the going rate for hh FS was, lets say $ . 6 , and that was what everybody was getting it at, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. The issue is that some get it for less and some are up charged. Sometimes they watch the clock and other times they don't Some get fiv fia dfk some don't. I'm just looking for consistency. Cece at sun allows dfk and maybe even BBBJ, although I'm apprehensive about anything uncovered. Katie wasn't having any of that the one night I visited her. She is a shrewd operator.[/QUOTE]I understand your point and empathize. I think the best you can hope for is consistency with a particular girl each time you see her, but even then, she is a human being and is imperfect. Expecting all the girls at one place to provide similar levels of service and enthusiasm at the exact same price to all the clients is unrealistic IMHO. She is a unique woman, not a pair of sneakers that has been through quality control. Even with just one girl, she has her own experiences, turn-ons, and dislikes that some clients may be more sensitive to than others, which in turn might lead to differing experiences from one client to the next.
I think the important thing is to find a girl where both of you can get a great experience. Wondering why you don't get as good of an experience with a particular girl as someone else is just spinning your wheels a bit. I get why people do it, but I'd rather just move along and spend my time looking for my next great experience.
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TOFTT at 1st Spa
Saw a massage sign while out driving this week. Had not heard of the place, so figured I should try it out. I think I got mammasan, Cindy. Older Korean lady. So-so English. No temp check. Normal room rates. Massage was just average. Flip was the same. Full menu available with normal prices after negotiations. Saw a young gal walk by the door to my room and it sounded like one more besides her. No mention or offer for a TS.