What the fuck is up with some of the ladies now days? Age old problem
I contacted a provider well known on this site yesterday. Told her who I was and my interests. She asked me for references a senior with over 500 posts I understand the need for being safe so I gave her the names of four ladies to contact and she wanted their phone numbers. REALLY you can't look under escorts posts to get fucking phone numbers. I explained some I had not seen but they had indicated a willingness to see me but not publically I asked her to look up their phone numbers from the escorts board. She said she would and get back to me. Never did. I finally Pmed her and told her I was moving on. Ladies there are tons of potential ladies to see on USASG and clients who want to. Do you really think guys who would like to see you are going to do your looking up for you and the way we move on from lady to lady how many phone numbers do you think we keep in our burn phones. Why I am looking for just one now days. Between ladies who don't call back, don't show up don't do their contacts after asking you who you have seen and the ones I have, have their phone numbers on their posts then we don't hear back from you, Really? Sorry for the fucking vent but some ladies are crazy as shit on here and just don't understand why men get pissed off when we don't do their homework. SOME OF YOU NEED TOGet off your dead asses ladies and make your own fucking contacts. I appreciate as a client the professionalism of Sweet Sandy and Sexy Sass who have worked with me and do / did want to see me and the lengths they went to to do it right I know there are many others on here who do their due diligence also but there are those few who don't and make life a pain in the ass for those of us who respect a women's wish to vouch a man she is going to see but do your own fucking work when you do. Most men are happy to accommodate a ladies requests but don't expect us to do your own fucking leg work. Doesn't work that way. Have a good weekend and to the lady I have been in contact with our time will be soon sweetheart for sure. Thanks to the ladies who get it right.
I really don't see what good references do anyway!
[QUOTE=BigMack;1978077]I contacted a provider well known on this site yesterday. Told her who I was and my interests. She asked me for references a senior with over 500 posts I understand the need for being safe so I gave her the names of four ladies to contact and she wanted their phone numbers. REALLY you can't look under escorts posts to get fucking phone numbers. I explained some I had not seen but they had indicated a willingness to see me but not publically I asked her to look up their phone numbers from the escorts board. She said she would and get back to me. Never did. I finally Pmed her and told her I was moving on. Ladies there are tons of potential ladies to see on USASG and clients who want to. Do you really think guys who would like to see you are going to do your looking up for you and the way we move on from lady to lady how many phone numbers do you think we keep in our burn phones. Why I am looking for just one now days. Between ladies who don't call back, don't show up don't do their contacts after asking you who you have seen and the ones I have, have their phone numbers on their posts then we don't hear back from you, Really? Sorry for the fucking vent but some ladies are crazy as shit on here and just don't understand why men get pissed off when we don't do their homework. SOME OF YOU NEED TOGet off your dead asses ladies and make your own fucking contacts. I appreciate as a client the professionalism of Sweet Sandy and Sexy Sass who have worked with me and do / did want to see me and the lengths they went to to do it right I know there are many others on here who do their due diligence also but there are those few who don't and make life a pain in the ass for those of us who respect a women's wish to vouch a man she is going to see but do your own fucking work when you do. Most men are happy to accommodate a ladies requests but don't expect us to do your own fucking leg work. Doesn't work that way. Have a good weekend and to the lady I have been in contact with our time will be soon sweetheart for sure. Thanks to the ladies who get it right.[/QUOTE]Anyone could look at a seniors name and reviews of providers they have given can take on there Identity for a date. I would think a Phone # on a PM here on the guide would be safer for the providers. They would know who they were dealing with at that point by the reviews they have given.
Just my 2 cents!
We should all work together
Most girls, myself included, ask for more than just a handle on a site. Usually a name and a number must accompany it and some even go as far as asking the specific location in which he saw the provider in question. I couldn't imagine anyone claiming this as too much effort but to make the process simple and as secure as possible maybe a pm with your name phone number and references listed is the right way to go. A provider is perfectly capable of looking up info on the other, no doubt about that, but be as specific as possible when listing references. If you say you have seen Amber or Lexie. We all know there are a few numbers we could go through. The more prepared and to the point you are, the faster and more efficient most of us will be. It will likely pay off and with recent news some ladies may be even more cautious.
Doing this ahead of time will also cut back on the hassle when you only have an hr to kill.
I'm not certain, but I bet this method would also cut back on girls not answering their phone.
[QUOTE=Upullandpay;1978415]Anyone could look at a seniors name and reviews of providers they have given can take on there Identity for a date. I would think a Phone # on a PM here on the guide would be safer for the providers. They would know who they were dealing with at that point by the reviews they have given.
Just my 2 cents![/QUOTE]
Let's put some rumors to rest once and for all
A2,
Rumors have been spread that I actually post as Sasha Rebecca and cupcake and that they do not post for themselves. Could you please investigate my handle if there is anything I've done posting as one of the girls or anything else like that could you please publicly let the board know that I've done it?
These rumors are ridiculous I don't work with drug addicts therefore I let the girls post on the boards and I let them know what boards we are on their free to work for me or go independent.
I would really appreciate your help in resolving these rumors.
Thank You.
Buddah.
[blue]I can confirm this one thing, six months or so ago I called Sasha and asked about her return to UTR. She told me, that's me, not somebody else who later told me, that she decided to go back and work with UTR because she found value in the services he offered. (Scheduling, screening, answering phone calls) To the best of my understanding it's a mutually beneficial relationship. I can't speak to the fact that you never put up posts for them, however I know it's pretty common for schedulers to also manage online presences. I'm not saying you do that, just saying if that was part of the deal you have with them I don't see an issue. There is a difference between having your scheduler put up a post FOR you and somebody else posting about you.
The difference between an escort service and pimping is always about control. Do the girls chose who they see, when they see them, and what they do? In this Sasha told me she does, and Sasha at least, chooses to have somebody else handle the admin crap so she can focus on the work. I know lots of freelance software developers that do this exact thing.
I can't speak for the other girls because I've never talked to them. I will however renew my invitation to Sasha and Cupcake to use my shower at the Monger Mansion any fucking time they want to.
Just saying,
A2[/blue]
What was said was if you had taken the time to listen instead of getting your pants
In a wad was, Whoever is posting the same response to her different clients should switch up the same worded responses and use a different appreciatation notice It looks too manufactured and not sincere If it was be then switch up the responses if it was one of the girls have them switch it up. I have no probems with whomever is writing the responses since I don't see your women due to your aversion to my likes. I do have issues with it being worded the same because it looks phoney as hell and reflects back on the man helping them to get more business. I believe it was Rebecca who was responding the same to her clients or at least 4 of them as I recall the same way. That is her choice it just looked manufactured. If it was you it looked phoney. Regardless of who it was it looked insincere. I have seen Sasha and Cupcake's responses and they vary in wording. I tried to tell you that and you got shitty so be it. Since I don't use you or your service it doesn't bother me but when someone gets shitty with me I hang up on their ass as I did you. My prerogative to do so. Thanks for the clarification A2 and though it doesn't solve anything I am sure whoever is posting the same or similar worded responses now can decide what she wants to do and not do. Have a good day and enjoy the week / weekend. PT.
No sir! Puntangmans exact words
01-11-14*15:55.
Puntang Man.
Senior Member.
Reports.
316.
Puntang Man.
Buddah when you post Rebeccas thanks to the boys.
For the football parties switch up the cut and paste responses LOL Also most people don't believe your girls contact anyone personally not even me so if Becca has free fun privileges have her contact me. Like the fact she is forty one and I do love my mature MILF fun when I can find it. Have a great new year and best wishes PT Man.
Indeed all 3 could go independent
Sasha did...and came right back.
Cupcake will tell anyone she wouldn't do this without me.
And Rebecca might someday. Who knows?
Nadia, Jasmine (Carmen Perez), Tori Dixon, Cinnamon and many others started out with me.
Once they knew enough all went independent.
Why don't they post their numbers you ask?
Personal time and families to care for.
This may surprise you but all 3 girls who currently work with me have children and are regular loving caring parents who don't want to spend their every moment in a hotel room or answering calls and text from guys wanting to fuck all day and night.
Some reports I've read stated that girls sometimes have their children in the same house while they are doing business.
You might think that's okay but, its not.
Anyone who knows the girls know your full of shit and that Sasha Cupcake and Becca are only using my services because they wish to.
Now...I notice you never do reviews. Why is that?
Just want to see if I have this right
[QUOTE=PuntangMan;1982178]So if your girls really are free to see who they want off here, post their phone numbers or have them post them and those of us who want to see them can do so on our terms, and give them ALL of the fee without them having to share it.[/QUOTE]So in other words, to prove to you that they are free to conduct their business in whatever manner they see fit, they need to stop conducting their business how they want to, and start doing it how you want them to? Maybe I read that wrong.
Did you read the part where I said that I talked to Sasha [B]personally[/B] and she told me that this is how she wants to do business?
Just wondering,
A2.
No negative my sweet just an
[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;1982768]That as I did give my opinion PT is a very good man. I wanted to wish the best for you PT and just say that there are many positive things in the world. Too many at that to be worried over the negative. And maybe some things are best to agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]Opinion I have and thought to express it. Just the way I feel on a certain thing but life goes on and so do I You are very sweet stay that way LOL.
I'm not really sure what your beef is or was...
[QUOTE=PuntangMan;1983098]Opinion I have and thought to express it. Just the way I feel on a certain thing but life goes on and so do I You are very sweet stay that way LOL.[/QUOTE]Many thanks to The Good Shepherd, Class A. Sweetie, Wingman Todd, the goes down and of course Admin2.
When I asked admin2 to investigate my handle and let anyone on the board know if I had broken any rules or posted as Sasha, Cupcake or Rebecca.
I never mentioned any names certainly not PTM. We simply wanted to put the rumors to rest and get on with business.
And not everyone agrees on how I run my business. However, whose business is it anyway. Mine, Sasha's, cupcakes and rebecca's. I value and respect the opinion of seniors, well respected members and my clients. But when it comes down to it, I'm always going to do what I think is best for the safety of my girls, my clients and most importantly my family.
I want to take this opportunity to explain the everyone out there that there is no human trafficking, pimping or even an agency involved here. I've been out of business for years. I am a personal assistant, schedule keeper, safety consultant, good friend and a financial coach. What's a financial coach. I text and call and I motivate certain girls to get up so they get to work and that they make money and a stay happy.
In the past I worked with drug addicts, bad mothers, crazy and almost always bipolar providers. After meeting Sasha black last year I realized I could do so much better and I do not have to work with drug addicts or girls with mental issues. She raised the bar for me and there is no way I'm going back to accepting anything less than the absolute best personalities.
I don't decide what hours or what days these ladies work on. This schedule is totally up to them. I do expect them to respect the schedule that they set. But that's out of courtesy to the clients and me.
PT man started out saying that his problem with me was that the girls are not allowed to post their own numbers. He demanded that we change our way of doing business as A2 pointed out. Then he came back to say he had no problem with me at all. Only to once again surface and say that his problem with me is something about me supposedly saying " I don't hire them for their brains" the fact is I don't hire them at all. They hire me. We were speaking about Rebecca and I said to PtMan was simply a reply to his making accusations that I'd cut and paste responses from Rebecca. He made the statement if it is Rebecca she must not be too smart. I replied" she doesn't need of a brain to do this job".
It's time that we move on from all the hating. We are after all a community of sorts. The idea that Steve from ee and I argue or compete with each other is also nonsense. The fact is Steve represents very young, very beautiful and extremely tight little spinners.
I concentrate on the ladies who are slightly more mature, still very beautiful, and sometimes are spinners too. But I choose to seek out the ladies who can carry on a mature conversation in the bed and out.
Steve and I are in two completely different markets. I have major respect for Steve and the operation he has developed.
I have respect for the independent providers, even those that have never posted their own ad or have anyway to honestly provide a reference for someone. I see them all as competitors and useful for the market. I wish them all the best of luck and offer any of them an opportunity to contact me for references or questions. I do ask that they do it very respectfully and that they understand I am willing to do this as a favor not because I have to.
Thank you to the admin, my friends and my girls.
Thank you all for taking the time to read my response.
I think it's time for a Cincinnati Board get together.
Who's in?
Buddah.
I didn't demand anything Buddah I stated an opinion of what I thought should be done
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;1983233]Many thanks to The Good Shepherd, Class A. Sweetie, Wingman Todd, the goes down and of course Admin2.
When I asked admin2 to investigate my handle and let anyone on the board know if I had broken any rules or posted as Sasha, Cupcake or Rebecca.
I never mentioned any names certainly not PTM. We simply wanted to put the rumors to rest and get on with business.
And not everyone agrees on how I run my business. However, whose business is it anyway. Mine, Sasha's, cupcakes and rebecca's. I value and respect the opinion of seniors, well respected members and my clients. But when it comes down to it, I'm always going to do what I think is best for the safety of my girls, my clients and most importantly my family.
I want to take this opportunity to explain the everyone out there that there is no human trafficking, pimping or even an agency involved here. I've been out of business for years. I am a personal assistant, schedule keeper, safety consultant, good friend and a financial coach. What's a financial coach. I text and call and I motivate certain girls to get up so they get to work and that they make money and a stay happy.
In the past I worked with drug addicts, bad mothers, crazy and almost always bipolar providers. After meeting Sasha black last year I realized I could do so much better and I do not have to work with drug addicts or girls with mental issues. She raised the bar for me and there is no way I'm going back to accepting anything less than the absolute best personalities.
I don't decide what hours or what days these ladies work on. This schedule is totally up to them. I do expect them to respect the schedule that they set. But that's out of courtesy to the clients and me.
PT man started out saying that his problem with me was that the girls are not allowed to post their own numbers. He demanded that we change our way of doing business as A2 pointed out. Then he came back to say he had no problem with me at all. Only to once again surface and say that his problem with me is something about me supposedly saying " I don't hire them for their brains" the fact is I don't hire them at all. They hire me. We were speaking about Rebecca and I said to PtMan was simply a reply to his making accusations that I'd cut and paste responses from Rebecca. He made the statement if it is Rebecca she must not be too smart. I replied" she doesn't need of a brain to do this job".
It's time that we move on from all the hating. We are after all a community of sorts. The idea that Steve from ee and I argue or compete with each other is also nonsense. The fact is Steve represents very young, very beautiful and extremely tight little spinners.
I concentrate on the ladies who are slightly more mature, still very beautiful, and sometimes are spinners too. But I choose to seek out the ladies who can carry on a mature conversation in the bed and out.
Steve and I are in two completely different markets. I have major respect for Steve and the operation he has developed.
I have respect for the independent providers, even those that have never posted their own ad or have anyway to honestly provide a reference for someone. I see them all as competitors and useful for the market. I wish them all the best of luck and offer any of them an opportunity to contact me for references or questions. I do ask that they do it very respectfully and that they understand I am willing to do this as a favor not because I have to.
Thank you to the admin, my friends and my girls.
Thank you all for taking the time to read my response.
I think it's time for a Cincinnati Board get together.
Who's in?
Buddah.[/QUOTE]Question do you take a cut of what a lady makes from an appointment? If you do you are more than a scheduler you are DBA as an agency LLC If you don't then you are merely a "consultant". Again no demands made just an opinion expressed. If your ladies are free to see whomever they wish without you getting into it then ask them to put up their digits for us all to contact them without going through you. If you don't have an agency take down your website and the girls on it No need for that if you are just a "consultant" and scheduler. One way or the other makes no difference to me I believe there are those who think you do get a small stipend for doing what you do and verifying their safety which makes you in the traditional sense more than just a consultant. You have been in this business way too long back when Jen ran dates for you and a number of ladies in the last four or five years have moved on from you to go independent. That is Normal SOP in the agency / scheduler business. Like I said I have demanded nothing from you but saying an opinion of putting their numbers out or having them contact guys who want to see them via PM and doing what you do and vouching / vetting through their sisters and Seniors on here. All I am going to say on this but are you in the "business" OH Yeah and anyone who doesn't believe that is in their own la la land. JMO.
Agencies, Schedulers, Handlers, etc.
Here's a thought to ponder:
If Buddha was a female, or ladies had a female handler, would it still be an issue?
I smell sexism (no pun intended).
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Glockman Finally Meets One of Cincinnati's Finest
Finally met Ally. After nearly a year of pm'ing back and forth, we finally got together in Memphis. She was everything I expected and more. Very photogenic and loves to pose. After taking over 200 photos, we finally got down to other business. Since I am to lazy to fuck, I let her put one of her best bbbjs on me. Yes, she swallows too. More later, but here is a Glockshot for the Octagon.
You really got to wonder...
So, as a (semi) mature man of 52, I don't find myself prone to thinking about things like who's spying on me, are there aliens, where is Schroedinger's cat, really. I'm not prone to conspiracy theories or wondering if the Mayans were off by just 2 years. I kinda meander through life, trying to see the big picture and make sound decisions predicated on just the facts, ma'am. I try not to worry about things over which I have little to no influence (the vast majority of things in this world. LOL).
I do my part for security by rarely giving out my SSN, using unlikely passwords, shredding all confidential mail, etc. I avoid things like FaceBook. I pay cash whenever there's a doubt. But I'm not a doomsday prepper (although the TV show is pretty hilarious). And I don't wear a mustache and glasses combo unless it's Halloween.
However, I am also a relatively educated man and fairly aware of the what is possible given today's technology. And that is quite a bit. I have no doubt that the government is capable of tracking far, far more than we realize. I'm equally sure that I would be shocked at what is recorded about me. (And probably not too happy about it, either!
Where I've landed on this, for now at least, is to take reasonable precautions and realize that, should the government care to, it could uncover pretty much anything I've done in the last several decades. Do I like that? Hell, no. Is there anything I can do about it without seriously making a commitment to a completely different way of life? No, not really.
So, I guess I'm one of the sheeple. Maybe a somewhat aware sheeple. But a sheeple nonetheless. Not sure there's an easy answer short of moving to Montana and taking up residence on the mega volcano.
Here's to keeping our spoor small and inconsequential.
[QUOTE=Cheech1;1983536]Yes, there is a darknet. Get TOR and you can get around in it. TOR anonymises your computer by encrypting everything that leaves your comp to a server outside the USA. You then surf the net, or the darknet, with no one being able to tell who you are because all identifiers are stripped from the data packets and replaced by the ID of the anon server. That server communicates with your comp by 258 bit encryption, which at this time is not crackable, as far as I know.
I have read, however, that the US govt. Has forced some of the companies who create encryption programs to place a back door in the programs for the government's use. So there's that.
As far as the surveillance of the people goes, the NSA, the FBI, and various other govt agencies have been spying on the world's population for many years. What happens is that they keep copies of all electronic communication. ALL of it. E-mail, everything you do online, tweets, facebook, along with all of your telephone conversations. In addition, they photograph every piece of snail mail that goes through the post office. Also, your location data via your cellphone. Then, if they want to investigate you, they just pull up all this data which they have been storing. They can then use this data to go to a judge and get warrants, etc.
The general public has no idea of this, that this level of spying is going on, nor do they care. Sheeple don't care about much.
Cheech1.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to burst your bubble
[QUOTE]Yes, there is a darknet. [/QUOTE]There is no such thing as the Darknet- it is SciFi fiction. What people call the Darknet is still part of the Internet. The servers and sites accessed by using software such as TOR are still hosted on the Internet. TOR is just a method of access, it is not a seperate *net or hidden protocol. TOR is also not 100% secure as a TOR exit node is not encrypted (it is only encrypted between TOR "routers") so anybody running an exit node can sniff your traffic.
I've accessed the Silk Road and it was nothing special. I could go downtown Cincinnati and get the same stuff for cheaper. There were no guns or women available, it was pretty much fake I'd's, drugs, and porn. There are probably other sites out there that offer the same stuff as the now defunct Silk Road, it just takes some digging to find them.
-BigBird69.
