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Saw Lisa on Thursday in the same building as Aiko on Kneeland corner of Tyler (Lisa is on the 4th floor). 1 hour appointment ($70). Very good massage with unrestricted roaming (YMMV as I have seen her a number of times) and wonderful HJ technique. $30 tip. For those who have not seen prior reports, she is average in looks, I would guess in her 30's and Bs on top. Lisa mentioned that there is another girl starting part-time on Tuesday afternoons. Will have to check out the new girl next time.
Heya,
Can someone give me a general idea what street Waltham Wellness is located?
I live in Waltham and I'd like to pay this place a visit based on reviews I've seen here.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Top Floor]Reading a lot of reports about AWC in Malden, I figured I'll give my opinion about them. I haven't been there in a while and have no reason to think things have changed.[/QUOTE]8 months ago AWC Malden was a great place. Maggie gave one of the best massages I have ever had AMP or otherwise. Not bad looking for being in her 40's allowed all the roaming you want around the yellow mountains and after she got to know you the down stairs was open as well. Very nice! She moved to a place in the city thats more on the legit side but told me "I have my own room with a door that locks, you come see me for a real good time" Wish I could remember where she told me it was. Its true what they say, the short term memory goes first, maybe I will remember it in a year or so.
Then there was Lee Lee, she might have broke up my happy home, its probably a good thing she got fired. 30's really nice C's smoking hot ass, very submissive and for me at least was GFE, might be what got her fired. Her English was terrible but better then my Chinese, I even went to the effort to learn a few words, she really dug that and got super friendly with me after that.
Lu Lu started working there about that time and she seems the back stabbing type so I'm sure if she got anything on Lee Lee she screwed her over. Lu Lu is bone skinny, part Japanese and part Chinese, speaks very good English and gives a shitty massage, During the ending I had to tell her to stop trying to rip it off, its attached. If you like your ass kicked during a massage and your Johnson in need of a splint you will like Lu Lu, oh yeah, easy on the eyes she is not.
I'm not one to give them a second chance, I pay the same as every other customer so if I feel like I'm getting less then the best I'm done and won't tip um Jack Shit. Lu Lu took two phone calls during my massage speaking Chinese both times, personal calls! During the second one I told her get someone else or get off the phone, she hung up and I got a shitty massage with a painful ending, she got NO tip and AWC Malden lost my business.
Even if you are really hard up I would not use AWC until we hear from some one (not me) that Lu Lu is long-gone.
Happy Hunting,
Jack
RTFF (#1 pet peeve).
My second new pet peeve, Guys putting out this site to providers hoping to gain brownie points. Have to love when you find a new gem and it now clamps down due to some jackass pointing out to a provider this specific site.
GJ. But you outsmarted yourself, because now everything is off the menu.
[QUOTE=WebDog]unless she's into the sleaze factor, I couldnt see her going for an AMP (even Lily's)
I would go with that expense tantra/tao chick mentioned here. I would presume she does women as well.
Although I would never turn my wife onto anything like that -- once the genie is out of the bottle, you wont be the one to put it back in.
Remember the sage advice "be careful of what you wish for!"[/QUOTE]Yes. Tantric/Tao is the way to go and letting the Genie out of the bottle. Well, life is short. Before we know it. Anyway woman on woman very sexy, nothing like seeing two woman work my. Well that said, what's good for me. Well technically should be good for her. Bi-curious works well with a man there, not just the woman, this I know a lot about. PM if you have a question or two. If she is a true Bi. It won't matter about the guy and she'll go looking and you'll never know, if not. Better to know about it than not and if you think she's going to look for another Johnson. Well then swapping is the way to go. To trade or not to trade. I just got back from Prague and KV with my girl so I embrace all that life has to offer. To date, no one has come back to tell me to wait until the second round. Finishes are better)
Tao is all about energy, the energy a woman gets from a man, ton of history, if she is truly interested researches it, and you may be pleasantly surprised. Yes, avoid sleaze, you want someone that does this because they desire it, not because what else can they do for a career. Me, I would rather regret my decision than never make a decision, these lessons I learn from.
Just my. 02 cents
Cubes
Yes she does have session for couples. Healingtaomassage.com that is.
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[QUOTE=Cubes90]Yes. Tantric/Tao is the way to go and letting the Genie out of the bottle. Well, life is short. Before we know it. Anyway woman on woman very sexy, nothing like seeing two woman work my. Well that said, what's good for me. Well technically should be good for her. Bi-curious works well with a man there, not just the woman, this I know a lot about. PM if you have a question or two. If she is a true Bi. It won't matter about the guy and she'll go looking and you'll never know, if not. Better to know about it than not and if you think she's going to look for another Johnson. Well then swapping is the way to go. To trade or not to trade. I just got back from Prague and KV with my girl so I embrace all that life has to offer. To date, no one has come back to tell me to wait until the second round. Finishes are better)
Tao is all about energy, the energy a woman gets from a man, ton of history, if she is truly interested researches it, and you may be pleasantly surprised. Yes, avoid sleaze, you want someone that does this because they desire it, not because what else can they do for a career. Me, I would rather regret my decision than never make a decision, these lessons I learn from.
Just my. 02 cents
Cubes[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jack Meoff2]Lu Lu took two phone calls during my massage speaking Chinese both times, personal calls! During the second one I told her get someone else or get off the phone, she hung up and I got a shitty massage with a painful ending, she got NO tip and AWC Malden lost my business.
Even if you are really hard up I would not use AWC until we hear from some one (not me) that Lu Lu is long-gone.
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LOL, or you could just try being respectful during the massage, regardless of the phone calls. If you don't want to tip at the end because of them, fine, but if you insist on acting like a big swinging dick *during* the massage, of course you'll get treated like shit the rest of the way. I'm sure she'll be glad not to see you again, too.
Hi. I'm in Providence but am interested in Chinatown because I am much less likely to be spotted there. Also, I think busts are very unlikely b/c Boston police seem to have a tacit relationship with the powers that be in CT to let them regulate there own affairs if the illegal acts (gambling, massage) are non-violent.
Found myself unexpectedly in CT on a sunday with someone else. When we split up to do some shopping, I took a look around just for the sake of info. From this board I remembered that places do exist, but did not remember details until I did an extensive search this morning (searched Aiko, Linda, Gey and Chinatown -- can't search the term CT).
I think I might have found a new place next to (I THINK) Ocean city Wealth around 25-29 Beach St. Second floor, nice looking chinese lady around 40 with boobs. Space is separate from other small businesses on floor, so no "hair cut" walk of shame. She said $60 for 60 min. I asked about "happy ending" and she nodded yes. (I assume there would be a tip expected). I had to meet back up with my friend in 10 minutes, so I said I had to move my car and moved on.
Then I chanced upon Oasis which I now know is a well known quantity. I did not know her name either (Duh!), but I did get the same $60 plus HE offer. Gave her same line and left. I mention her because if you know who it is, it may be helpful to note that she is smaller, less shapely, less attractive, and a bit older than the Beach Street lady.
Anyway, I hope the Beach Street address is accurate. I know for sure it is on the middle of a street like that and is a short outdoor walk up to second floor -- it's right there on the right. I could have gathered more info if I had known I would be there and had come prepared and had been by myself. I will do so next time. I can say that sunday is a great time to go -- no reservation calls, no waits, and only one hair customer at Oasis (and a hot chick who greated me at door -- wish she did the rubs!
Would you old CT vets give us a current run down all in one thread of the CT scene? Who is working, where, what to expect, tipping advice? I've gathered info from the searches, but could really use a clarification of the current state of affairs. Thanks.
[QUOTE=AsianLPGAfan]We are all in the quest for an ideal situation where we find someone that is special and try to keep it special.
There are certain situations like location. If you found a great providor in an upscale location there is ambivilence to overexposure. But if someone is going to flirt w a town and their LE that is also their risk to doing business.
I (we) are not their ''only one'' ads are either in CL or Phx. One has to let go that notion. I would encourage good reviews ''read between the lines'' without being too graffic or explicit. This is the massage section not the escort or streetwalker section there is a certain level of expectations one is looking for w the ''massage experience'' if you can find a PSE w a decent massage. Amen brother. Often when you find something you like it is gone too soon also.[/QUOTE]
Yup, you have a string of disappointments then bang! You hit one that restores your faith in the craft but you're hesitant to post a review. I don't mind sharing but you worry about the flip side of destroying a good thing. Tough call.
It's sad what things have come to. I read post after post about all this money for an HE. I remember better days when you'd get the works without all this effort and $$$. Sad.
BTW, you guys are some of the funniest people going. Some of the descriptions make me burst out laughing. Better than the comedy channel.
The Herbal Medical Center in Southie has hit my radar screen as a potential place to practice my AMP hobby. I just drove by. They have a neon "OPEN" sign above the door and a small sign for "MEDICAL MASSAGE" with a headshot picture of an asian woman underneath the sign in the window. I don't recall any intel in this forum on this place. My next visit was planned for TCBW or Revere so it will be a while (funds are low) before I can take one for the team.
TCBW is the best value I've found in these parts.
If seniors are keeping this Southie place to themsleves, can I get a PM whether or not it is a waste of time/money/effort?
Hey Stan,
Forget about HMC in Southie, those are pictures of his patients. Before and after. He is a herb doctor. And see how I wrote HE is a herb doctor not HE for a happy.
I went to Holistic last week, for me it is an old standby and I frequent it often. I asked for the same masseuse that I usually have. She doesn't smell like that spicy soup and is very familiar and friendly with me but I got the same old thing, TS and a nice soothing back massage, quick frontal and HE..HJ. She allowed roaming but never under the clothing, after all this time I would have thought that she trusted me enough to go a little further but no, Has Anybody roamed underneath there?
I'm inclined to look in CT but I find that most are older and plain there. Are there any good places in CT that have young, cute masseuses? I have also tried C.A.T. (Chelsea) I called for an appointment but I couldn't get one. The "Madam" was very cautious and asked how I knew about them. I told her that a friend referred me but that didn't work as I was told no You can't make an appointment. That sucks, How do you get one?
''Co-ed'' posting today.
Seems like autoresponder generic reply. Response w phone number and appoitment time probably gets you call back.
She sounds like a decent package by her description. 140 for 30m and 240 for hr. Not Fs but avail interactive options may interest some.
Price too steep for me for 60 min.
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Made yet another pointless trip to Green Day, Lee's, fill-in-the-blank. Heard a new name, Coco, so I gave her a try. This is one wacked-out chick. While the massage was mediocre, this gal has a bizarre personality that made it a fairly memorable trip. No real ending to speak of and would not repeat, but some of you thrill seekers may want to give a spin while she lasts there...which I predict will be short. PM me for details.
I can't speak about Southie, but in London, all the herb doctors also have a little something-something going on, either in the consultation room or in the basement. Not with the good doctor himself, of course, but always he has a nurse on his hand, or maybe it's his wife, I'd rather not think too hard about that...
The question is, how late is HMC open? If it's past 8:00, I'd be willing to take a chance.
[QUOTE=Tooner88]Hey Stan,
Forget about HMC in Southie, those are pictures of his patients. Before and after. He is a herb doctor. And see how I wrote HE is a herb doctor not HE for a happy.[/QUOTE]
Guys, you both made some good points and funny comments. Let it go.
Jack, I understand the frustration and have been on the receiving end of similar treatment by Anna at FY, but she made up for it at the end. It's kinda like bitchin at the waitress at a greasy spoon, ya just know there is a good chance she will spit in your food. Either leave no tip, don't come back, or ask for a little special treatment nicely, it worked for me.
Not choosing sides...just MHO.
Cheers, mate. I appreciate your kind words.
[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]Guys, you both made some good points and funny comments. Let it go.
Jack, I understand the frustration and have been on the receiving end of similar treatment by Anna at FY, but she made up for it at the end. It's kinda like bitchin at the waitress at a greasy spoon, ya just know there is a good chance she will spit in your food. Either leave no tip, don't come back, or ask for a little special treatment nicely, it worked for me.
Not choosing sides...just MHO.[/QUOTE]
Went to verify that my previous visit was no HE because they did not know me. Into room with one woman who started nice massage and then 15 minutes into the massage she leaaves and Coco comes in. Very good massage then excellent teasing. At end when I am expected a good finish she points to the crack in the door, they keep it partially open, and says can not do. It is a BS place and I am done with it.
Jack
She's been posting on CL a lot lately. RTFF and you'll see mixed reviews- but nothing in over a year... anyone have a more recent update?
I'm a boob guy so I am intrigued by her, but at 140 for half hour massage, she'd have to be very very good!
This may be old news, or maybe there was a change since MM posted this in June. Being a boob guy I couldn't wait to try Zoe's. I called and made appt. Was really excited about the "beautiful breasts" and big nipples. When I showed up I was greeted by Alice- who does afterhours massages next door and who I have seen several times (search the phoenix for best massage- 7782). Disappointed.
Don't get me wrong- I like Alice. She is fairly attractive and a really very sweet person. See does have nice breasts, I guess, and gives a great scalp massage. But there is something about her that leaves me less than fully satisfied.
Maybe there is another lady at Zoe's (I didn't have the heart to ask Alice) or maybe Alice has started there only recently. But last week, Zoe's= Alice.
[QUOTE=Mini Man]I decided to try sasa, but when I called they said they did not offer massage. I guess they did not like my voice? So I called the next on the list, Zoe's hair salon. Fortunately I knew where it was located and what the cost was otherwise I definitely would not have understood. I had an appointment for 12:30 PM so that I could get back to work. When I arrived she said "so sorry can you wait 25 minutes? " she was very cute, the cutest I have seen yet, with a very nice body, so I said sure.
I went into the first room, the AC felt great and laid down naked to wait. She arrived 25 minutes latter and gave a little giggle since I was undrapped. She proceeded to provide a wonderful massage, medium intensity with I assume were swedish motions. When she was in front of me she leaned over and I had to hold her legs. Very tight and she did not object. What I especially liked was the massage of my legs. She worked my ass cheeks but did not do much for the boys. I glanced up at the time and I thought. No extras. Then she brushed my balls and asked me to turn over. Then she started on my scalp. She was right next to me so I said what the hell lets go for the breasts. I moved my hand up and pushed her bra up and wow. Wow. Wow, the most beautiful full breasts with large nipples I have ever seen. Then she began rubbing me. I proceeded to suck for a little bit then said "big nips" and she said "big tip". It was very funny. Then I came like a champ. Very, very pleasant, I will repeat. $50 (1/2 hr) $40 tip, she is an 8, massage a 7-8, and the finish a 7.compared to the rest, she beats them all on looks. It is a little pricey for 1/2 hour, I should have done one hour and a $30 tip, I will next time. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madison6767]She's been posting on CL a lot lately. RTFF and you'll see mixed reviews- but nothing in over a year... anyone have a more recent update?
I'm a boob guy so I am intrigued by her, but at 140 for half hour massage, she'd have to be very very good![/QUOTE]
I saw her a long tome ago and actually wrote a review on TER about her. However, her Profile has been removed at her request from TER.
Just to confirm that we're talking about the same Kathi, here are her Eros ad and website:
[url]http://www.teasingtouch.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.eros-boston.com/files/bo-kathi2-kathi1.htm[/url]
Furthermore, the $140 is for 45 min not 30 min.
She is a very accommodating masseuse. At the time, she allowed me to play with and suck her breast alot. In comparison to subsequent masseuse, I'd say that her massage skills were avg. She's a nice lady with a womanly body, not a thin or hard body. Could be in better shape.
I just rec'd a manual happy ending, and was told that she didn't provide oral or FS. I enjoyed her company, but I didn't go back because there were masseuses that I enjoyed more.
Take care.
Also check: [url]http://www.clreviews.com********showthread.php?t=1185[/url]
[QUOTE=Ampman44]Hi,
I'm in Providence but am interested in Chinatown because I am much less likely to be spotted there. Also, I think busts are very unlikely b/c Boston police seem to have a tacit relationship with the powers that be in CT to let them regulate there own affairs if the illegal acts (gambling, massage) are non-violent.
Found myself unexpectedly in CT on a sunday with someone else. When we split up to do some shopping, I took a look around just for the sake of info. From this board I remembered that places do exist, but did not remember details until I did an extensive search this morning (searched Aiko, Linda, Gey and Chinatown -- can't search the term CT).
I think I might have found a new place next to (I THINK) Ocean city Wealth around 25-29 Beach St. Second floor, nice looking chinese lady around 40 with boobs. Space is separate from other small businesses on floor, so no "hair cut" walk of shame. She said $60 for 60 min. I asked about "happy ending" and she nodded yes. (I assume there would be a tip expected). I had to meet back up with my friend in 10 minutes, so I said I had to move my car and moved on.
Then I chanced upon Oasis which I now know is a well known quantity. I did not know her name either (Duh!), but I did get the same $60 plus HE offer. Gave her same line and left. I mention her because if you know who it is, it may be helpful to note that she is smaller, less shapely, less attractive, and a bit older than the Beach Street lady.
Anyway, I hope the Beach Street address is accurate. I know for sure it is on the middle of a street like that and is a short outdoor walk up to second floor -- it's right there on the right. I could have gathered more info if I had known I would be there and had come prepared and had been by myself. I will do so next time. I can say that sunday is a great time to go -- no reservation calls, no waits, and only one hair customer at Oasis (and a hot chick who greated me at door -- wish she did the rubs!
Would you old CT vets give us a current run down all in one thread of the CT scene? Who is working, where, what to expect, tipping advice? I've gathered info from the searches, but could really use a clarification of the current state of affairs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Where is this place on Beach St.? I spent like a half hour walking around the area you described but couldn't find ANYTHING. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]Went to verify that my previous visit was no HE because they did not know me. Into room with one woman who started nice massage and then 15 minutes into the massage she leaaves and Coco comes in. Very good massage then excellent teasing. At end when I am expected a good finish she points to the crack in the door, they keep it partially open, and says can not do. It is a BS place and I am done with it.
Jack[/QUOTE]
Like I said, another wasted trip, this time. But sometimes you find rule breakers there. If you find that Grace or Lucy is available, you may strike it right. On the whole, the place is a tease only place.
Stopped by today and was told that they are moving south.
The same number will work, but call way ahead to get directions.
They are looking to move by Tuesday.
Called for an appointment at Body Zen in Belmont, looking for a late nite massage. Good news was they were still open. Bad news is no extras.
Three women working, the working older mamasan comes out of one of the rooms to greet me and take the .6 for the hour. Lola comes in for my massage. Very nice looker, probably just out of massage school. Nice massage, but no teasing, no extras. Inquired at the end and she left the room. Gave a .2 tip anyway for a good massage.
Not very promising. Front door unlocked, high cubicle-like walls, just shutters for massage room doors.
Anyone with a different experience or suggestions for a nearby alternative, please PM me. Looking at the Rt 2 / 128 area.
Turbo
Up on the MA NH line?
ends in 8476 I-93 / I-495 anytime
HT massage. Same building as Akio. Standard prices, good hand technique. I'll repeat. Provider is nice, polite, and a bit of a giggler.
I went to Holistic for a change of pace and drew Jessica. Pretty cute 30's (? ). Great massage. She got up on the table and straddled me during part of it. Roaming allowed over the clothes. She had the standard impervious armor on. Plenty of teasing during TS and massage, and a very nice HE. Started very gentle and slowly built up. Plenty of attention to the boys.
Only one complaint: They were doing some kind of construction, and there were workmen coming and going in the hallways.
I haven't been there in a while, but they seem to have the same consistently decent service. (If only the providers were a little more attractive, I might give them more business.)
I read earlier in the thread that Malu in Malden didn't offer extra. It was confusing as she advertses all the time in CL. So I set up an appointment to see her in the hair salon (which by the way is all papered on the windows due to remodeling inside).
I met her and she looks to be in her 40's, and look even older than Amy. So I got ready for the massage, and she really has a good massage technique. Starts from the feet instead of the body, and she really pays attention to the muscle groups. Malu doesn't rush through it at all.
There is a HE also, so it must have been YMMV. She did well and she is friendly, talking about this and that. I'd recommend a visit.
By the way, has Salem St in Malden become a bad street? When leaving Lebanon St to walk down Salem some kid on a bike was harassing me to get my name, and just some sketchy people seen on the street. I thought the Malden/Everett border made me wary, but Salem Street had me keep track of my surroundings.
[QUOTE=Coast Hog]Got a call from a buddy who knows someone on Quincy LE and according to a reliable source, he told me to be very cool about Hancock St, skin care, facials, A & A as they are keeping an eye on "the traffic pattern" due to some locals complaining.
Like I said, for what it's worth, this guy is a trusted hobbyist who has never cried wolf before.
Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]
Any update on this? I haven't heard/seen anything along this line since this one post.
Haven't seen any reports on places in Bedford.
i've seen 3 advertised on CL. and anyone been to the place in Lowell (CL ad)?
Hi,
I used to see these two pretty frequently when I lived in Boston but don't make it out that way much any more. Advertise in CL THS, 1098 number.
I primarily see Jen when I go. These two are not the most attractive, but not bad, and are soooo nice. They really are sweet. Tons of compliments and I've even been offered dinner on more than on occasion! Friendliest therapists I've ever seen. Anyway, for those near theater district, give them a visit and be nice. Last time I was there they said they were slowing down due to all the competition. They are on par in looks with the others but are much more pleasant.
Also. Can someone please help me with Ge's contact info? I'm sure it's here somewhere but I can't search for "Ge" on the board. These are the Brazilian therapists now in Malden.
[QUOTE=Lukey]Ok guys,
I don't post often and have never had very good luck with getting pms returned. But I found a new hidden gem (I think) she has asked me to put it out quietly (she wants off CL)
A quick descrition No bs.
If you remember Brook: very similar. A little prettier and unbelievable body nice massge great ending (a little pricey for an hour).
Haven't had this level of satisfaction since helena and Brook.
PM for more.
But I will use lots of discretion for her sake and I don't want to lose this one
Peace,
Lukey[/QUOTE]Hi Lukey,
Can you share her contact info? She sounds great.
Couldn't help responding to this. Kathi's a nice person, but she's not nearly as cute as she seems in the pictures. She has lingerie, if you're into that. I've seen her twice -- the first time she provided a pretty good HE, the second time it seemed a lot more lackluster. I'm guessing she's in her late 30s or somewhere in her 40s. I haven't repeated in a long time just because for the rate I'd rather go for variety, maybe someone cuter.
[QUOTE=Madison6767]She's been posting on CL a lot lately. RTFF and you'll see mixed reviews- but nothing in over a year... anyone have a more recent update?
I'm a boob guy so I am intrigued by her, but at 140 for half hour massage, she'd have to be very very good![/QUOTE]
Any word on their new location? Same address today on CL.
[QUOTE=Momo Epez]Stopped by today and was told that they are moving south.
The same number will work, but call way ahead to get directions.
They are looking to move by Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Adobe]Couldn't help responding to this. Kathi's a nice person, but she's not nearly as cute as she seems in the pictures. She has lingerie, if you're into that. I've seen her twice -- the first time she provided a pretty good HE, the second time it seemed a lot more lackluster. I'm guessing she's in her late 30s or somewhere in her 40s. I haven't repeated in a long time just because for the rate I'd rather go for variety, maybe someone cuter.[/QUOTE]Thanks Adobe and LongJBlues for the info on Kathi. Damn- that's about what I expected to hear, based on the other reviews on her.
I will continue my search for a cute provider with beautiful, accessible breasts! I promise to report back, and I'd appreciate any tips.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Adobe]Couldn't help responding to this. Kathi's a nice person, but she's not nearly as cute as she seems in the pictures. She has lingerie, if you're into that. I've seen her twice -- the first time she provided a pretty good HE, the second time it seemed a lot more lackluster. I'm guessing she's in her late 30s or somewhere in her 40s. I haven't repeated in a long time just because for the rate I'd rather go for variety, maybe someone cuter.[/QUOTE]
I saw Kathi a few months ago at her hotel room in MetroWest area. She looks better in her photos than in person (she's mid-40's easy). While she did have good sized breasts at some point, that was a number of years ago, and gravity has taken a toll on them since then (droopy). While she's got a nice personality, I didn't like her massage. It was simply a lackluster body rub, with little or no teasing prior to the flip. While it was a nice HE (is there ever a bad HE?), it wasn't worth repeating, especially when you consider her elevated price structure.
Also, she had her pet greyhound dog in the room. Not a great thing if you don't like (or are allergic to) dogs. Personally, there is better to be had IMHO.
Guest123
Saw Leeza a year ago when I was in Boston and knew I had to see her again during this trip. Excellent massage and unbelievable control of the erotic part of the massage. In all my MANY years she has by far the the most talented massage I have experienced. Wish she lived here in the South...I would go broke!!!