Anyone heading out to BBF tonight or tomorrow?
I don't get out much and I don't post much but I keep up with you pervs and have met up with a few of you. Anyway, will be hitting up BBF tonight and tomorrow. Anyone going out there?
Johnny's Magical Quest (concludes?)
Alright it's been a little while. I've pretty much settled on BBF, Dancers, and PT's for daytime places. They're just freaking top notch for many reasons I've discussed before. I do, however, have a request. I regularly get decent millage from girls I know at those clubs but I have only received extras at PT's and that isn't available anymore. Help a brother out! PM if you can. More info on what I'm looking for to follow.
BBF (Revisited) : So there's the $12 dances (just like any couch dance elsewhere) in a sorta exposed backroom where several people can see you that are also getting dances, a VIP room, and a Special Private Dance room. The VIP room is off of the couch dance area and is used for the $100 / half hour special with a dancer of your choice. The lights are pretty much out except for some back lighting but there are two disadvantages to using this: first is that it's an open area with multiple seatings so other people are there. Also the girls are not off the schedule and still have to dance and will leave you there in the middle of your time. Now this isn't to say extras don't happen. Girls are good at hiding stuff but they can't go super crazy here if others are there obviously. Also the house mother and waitress frequent this area at least 2 times during your time, more if others are there. I saw a girl give a HJ over pants though so it's not impossible to get something here. The other room is used for either $20 per song dances (I think) or $200 / half hour VIP. Not sure how this is as I've never done it. I suspect there are cameras which would make sense to me but I'm not 100% on that. It's probably worth it to do the $100 room if you are really into a dancer as you usually get more millage there but the $12 deal is so good. I mean roughly it's the same amount if you think about it. It's pretty obvious why this place is so popular. It just gets way too popular at night for me and the girls tend to be more 'commercial' and 'business' up and out during that time. Also another plus is how friendly some of the staff is.
Patty's: After avoiding it I tried it once. I've heard horrible things about this place. I came in around 1pmish and stayed till 2pm. (This could be a bit off. It was around when it opened). One severely overweight dancer who could have cared less about me. The whole time I was worried my car was going to be broken into. I haven't had this feeling even at some of the shadier places. I won't even attempt to try this place at a better time unless I get a good reason to.
The Silk (revisted) : After seeing some people comment on this I'the just like to say that it's not a bad place and it is a bad place at the same time. The girls are divided up into two types of girls, regular strip club girls, and girls new to dancing / college / whatever. You will get no where with the latter types but they make good conversation (but incredibly boring lap dances). The cameras are a complete buzzkill but keep in mind most clubs have cameras, even if you don't see them. It's just that they are so visible that they kill it for me. I still have no idea about the $20 room though. Granted if you are in the area this is actually a decent club to go to. $10 dances are pretty awesome. And there are a couple there that give good ones. Oh, and enjoy getting wanded at the door at night. And the crowd that comes in then usually is pretty bad.
Club Paradise (revisited) : This place is still pretty bad. I went in during the nighttime because I keep getting harassed during the day with offers for takeout from ones I will never get takeout from (I have standards dammit!) One girl was incredibly overweight, definitely on some sort of pills, and whispered in my ear with her broken teeth 'If we get a dance I'll let you do anything you want to me'. No thank you. This place is incredibly ghetto. The crowd is pretty rough and the dancers screamed at each other during most of the night. Dances weren't as spectacular as I've had there. During the day I usually get some nice millage but the attractive ratings are pretty low. The best way to think about this place is to know that it's right next to BBF. Think about a pool of people that go to strip clubs. Now look at BBF and look at that crowd. Now imagine where the other less desirable folk go. This place has a huge disadvantage being so close to BBF and it shows in their customer base. To be more crass, it feels like a white trash party house.
Lenny's (revisited) : I don't know why I went back. It's a horrible place. I would actually rate it as the WORST in Indy. Fights apparently occur an average of 1-3 times a week here according to the bartender. I talked to a dancer that said she was brutally attacked by the others after a shift.
PT's (Revisited) : got to update this a bit. First off, recently they lost some dancers that have been there a while and have hired several new ones. PT's, as I stated before is VERY selective on who they hire. Girls have told me in other clubs how they've been rejected from there several times. They freaking weigh their girls every shift. So you have high quality girls that take advantage of big money customers. The doorman that watches over the back rooms will peak around occasionally depending on who he is. Some do it more than others, some just don't care. A lot of it has to do with who the dancer is, whether the doorguy 'likes' them or 'knows what they do'. Management in general has a 'no tolerance' philosophy but that's really bullshit as they let a lot of things slide for certain girls that bring in lots of cash. So things do happen in the dance rooms from time to time, just don't expect it. If you want the really good stuff you'll have to throw down some money and that means the VIP room. There are some girls available to P4P but it's incredibly expensive. Also I think the dance prices went up in price. I reported earlier they were $5 wrist band (one time fee) and then $20. However the last time I was in I was charged $25 per song. The first thing that came to mind was that they were just giving me a bogus price but after the third dancer told me that I began to wonder. Yes, for some of them it's worth it.
So there's my latest. Hope it helps a little. If anyone can give any insider info about extras I'the be happy to hear them. I've been sampling numerous dancers but my style doesn't usually produce that. PM if you'the like. I heavily suspect I've seen some people from here as I've seen lots of small (3-4) groups in places like Brad's and have seen some people sample around as well.
Hip Hugger Review and Question.
After reading so much hype on all the list / review sites I finally broke down and made the trip to Kokomo to try out HH.
While I've been to much worse clubs, I had higher hopes for this one after reading all I have.
Environment.
The club is small. Very small. There were quite a few patrons there, and not many girls. This made the club feel crowded to me, which just added to the already VERY smoky atmosphere.
Girls.
I was there on a Friday night, and there just wasn't many dancers there. Most were 4-6s at best. Now I've read several other reviews saying "mostly natural girls". I prefer this. I don't care for plastic at all. But the "natural" girls I saw there seemed to be mostly post-pregnancy girls with extremely saggy breasts, stretch marks, and loose skin. When I mention sagging breasts, it's important to understand what I mean. I'm not a picky person. I don't mean saggy as in large and hanging. I mean sagging as in pancake-flat down against their stomachs. I'm not a mean person, I'd never insult anyone to their face or call them out by name. I just believe if you're an entertainer in this industry, there needs to be standards starting with your appearance. This is what makes the girls money, and it needs to be maintained. The girls were the absolute worst part of this night. I just did not find any attractive.
Lapdances.
Definitely the best part of the experience. The rules are simple for dances at HH. Ask your dancer what's allowed. I did partake in a dance to try out the famed HH laps. The girl I chose had a smaller frame, and nice almost perfect breasts (fake). Her rule was just don't touch anything that's covered. She gave a very high friction lapper in just a G-String. These girls are good at what they do, and while I've had more sensual lapdances before, the value for $10 can't be beat. The only place I've had better dances within 2 hrs from my home was in Toledo at Platinum Showgirls ($25 / dance). As stated by several other reviewers, they're done on hard chairs in the open for the whole club to see. I knew this going in. It really isn't that big of a deal. If you find a girl there you like, once she gets a dance started. You won't care who else is around.
All of that said, I need some advice I have a Friday night bachelor party coming up for a friend, and I'm wondering where to take him. Kokomo is about 2 hours from home, Indy is about 3. I'd like HH quality lapdances with better looking girls. Does a place like this exist in Kokomo / Indy? I've been eyeballing Big Daddy's and Brad's Brass Flamingo. If neither one of those are as good as HH's dances, I may do a return trip to HH to see if I was just there on a "down" night.
Dances need to be high mileage, $10-$20 each, and girls need to be as attractive as possible without sacrificing mileage. (read 2-way contact) I get the feeling I should go to BBF, but are the dances as good as HH? And is the girl quality worth the extra hour drive?
BBF Last Week, Club Paradise Today
Talk about two completely different worlds. I hit the Brass last week, I think it was Wed, around 6:30, but can't remember for sure. It was more crowded than I had seen it in a while, but then I hadn't been clubbin' for a month or so either. Other than maybe 2-3 familiar faces, the rest of the dancers all looked new to me. Again, it could be because I hadn't been in a while. I enjoyed a few $1 dances as I tried to figure out who was worthy of my $20 for a couch dance (I NEVER turn down a dollar dance). Finally saw my favorite, Asia, and headed back. She is so effective that I had to stop her at the end of one dance and ended up saving myself $12. A quick trip, but a good time was had.
Today I decided to venture into unfamiliar territory after seeing a review by JohnnySK in which he mentioned Club Paradise. I consider myself pretty experienced, but this was one of the few clubs in Indy I had never been to. It is certainly much less appealing than BBF, and the girls are nowhere near BBF caliber, but I actually had a great time with a relatively slender, not entirely unattractive, smaller-chested dancer whose name I cannot remember. Got a 2-for-$30 couch dance and a good time was had by all. I may actually have to go back to that place, despite the fact that a fight very nearly broke out between 2 of the 4 other customers in the place right before my couch dance. I can duck and cover fast if I have to.
TITTIES!
DaveK
Just a little update on the Beast!
Looks like the night shift is having quite a bit of turnover. Granted, I haven't been in forever, but I ran into an old friend, pointed out the new faces and she filled me in. Those girls are HUNGRY for cash. I was there last Friday nite (might go tonite!.) and there were about 10 guys at any given time all night. The girls say it's been really slow and they are really looking to make some cheddar. One gal to look out for is Brooklyn. She's pretty new and kinda unique; Killer body w / missing teeth (tooth?). She also looks older than she is. She seems really sweet and learning the ropes and might be someone for you to cultivate as a regular. (And don't confuse her with Jersey, who's talking about quitting and going somewhere else.) I'm kinda curious what kind of mileage is going to result from having a new crew, so keep those reports coming. For my part, I got dances from 4 girls and no over the pants action, other than rubbing their body parts. (I used to always count on a couple grabbing hold during their dance and not letting go)
On a side note, any recent visits by anyone to club paradise? I love a good dive strip club and curiosity is getting the better of me.
